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GF's Damage Control Chat
So it looks like their little chat to 'clear the air' about the allegations came to nothing.
Especially since it was held during a time that most of the concerned players couldn't attend.
But no wrongdoing was found after a thorough investigation.
And they promised to add some 'CSR checking tools' to make sure their SGMs behave.
Ah well, so much for instilling a sense of confidence in the players.
Especially since it was held during a time that most of the concerned players couldn't attend.
But no wrongdoing was found after a thorough investigation.
And they promised to add some 'CSR checking tools' to make sure their SGMs behave.
Ah well, so much for instilling a sense of confidence in the players.
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So obviously it wasn't "whining", and those who accuse ppl damaging the game by talking about it in public, here and on the official websites, should think about this: Who is damaging a game (especially one that has the community as key point) more: ppl volunteering as CSR that abuse their powers and the trust they're given, or those rightfully demanding to look into that?
'nuff said,
Gloife
guess glofie as usual you read what you WANT to read not what was said
10:27:07 <SoR> kyesmith shouts: How is the gameforge investigation going in regard to certain accusations?
10:27:26 <vince> investigation are over, they have been done
10:27:42 <SoR> h0lycha0 leaves (...) !
10:28:08 <vince> atm
10:28:26 <vince> gonna take a few lines now, bare with me
10:28:52 <vince> we have found nothing that people were accused of
now they put tools in place to make sure it can never happen, and to give people confidence in the team.
why you kami so bent on bashing the CSR's who want to help,
you still losing and it obviously is a conspiricy
who's the ones killing the game, coming to mmorpg to post bile, who's the one's who without an ounce of proof accuse people who volenteered to give up their RL time to help everyone else. give yourself a pat on the back
17:48:40 <vince> in which case, you will simply not see them again doing CSRing"
well no use arguing here.
The game was desperate for CSRs, they picked a few rottenapples, well can happen, doesnt make the game less enjoyable for me. I got the impression the devs took the issue seriuosly which is prolly more than could be said for other mmos.
Glo.
-Jayce
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as I said on the main site
maybe some left coz you questioned their intergrity when all the wanted to do was help,
you know when you put hours and hours into something and ppl are really grateful like you.............sometimes its not worth it anymore
face it man you got fed BS from bitter people and you believed it
edited: unduly harsh
"Somebody leave because he feel guilty, Cause of the hours of hours in spying , canceling dangerous OP Wars, banning key user of other faction, attending NPC hunting and sharing info with allies in faction, sharing account and let close faction friends playing god and slapping,gasing,play with aggro with the player who lastly killed them in OP and laughing his arse off, spying and copying Kami and Guild chats of fellow Kami and sharing with biggest Kara Guilds"
Possible or !?
Me personally caught an CSR reading Kami Chat , on the question why he can read Kami chat he answered he has the power too, and at NPC hunts i saw CSR for no particular reason appearing and standing there till we killed NPC and got the loot then he disappears so gueesing he was spying.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
DarthRaiden let me spell this out for your obviously simple mind
no metagaming evidence was found, no cheating, no purposfully crashing servers and cancelling op battles, no sharing of accounts etc etc non non non
as for the spying stuff, my friend you know jack s**t lixie is easy to kill, you just need the numbers/motivation, karavan dont have either as the loot from the NPC bosses benefit like 3 people per kill max. alot of us killed lixie many times before the change, alot of us dont give 2 s**ts about doing it again, the karavan know how to do it and its sure not from watching you lot who cant organise a piss up in a brewery without ripping each others throats out.
the CSR's come from both sides probably, they took the job to HELP others, not metagame, not mess about with a big pink lollypop. You can guess and make up your conspiricy theories all you want but at the end of the day you are very very wrong.
if you lot spent half the time planning that you do finding excuses for your failings you might actually achieve something. now go back to your kami forums and whine in private that the latest excuse is SOOOO UNFAIIIR
It speaks volumes when someone denotes themselves as "Lord" when they are in a position of responsibility.
Edt: seems that a certain SGM saw my post and decided to demote himself from "Lord"
plus "we make it in future technically not possible for CSR to abuse their powers (like they did till now) buy developing tools"
btw. sentences in brackets are my imagination only
Anyway GF saw the prob and reacted quickly and in right direction
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Jack, you have an amazing enthusiasm for your cause... Are you a politician by any chance?
^^ *hugs from lil me*
*Brain down for upgrade, don't try to understand my logic, I don't...*
*sigh*
10:28:52 <vince> we have found nothing that people were accused of
why do I bother, you wont ever believe it as you think their is a big conspiricy, fine man, go put your tin foil hat back on, log into ryzom and carry on spreading much hoping some will stick.
heyas Shez, long time no see
nah I'm not a politician and as someone who used to be an ex-CSR you could probably understand what its like to have your honesty challenged, and sure to hell would be grateful for those who answered against those accusations.
as one of the players signed this petition i m happy with their explanations and happy they actually look in the concerns of a percentage of the community who had doubts about certain csr actions
as jayce no one was fired and as jacko also said people who spend time to make this a better game may feel its best for them to leave
i would personally dont do so since my name is clear and since all the false accusations dropped would give me no reason to leave
but everyone things different so nothing i can judge on that after all they can reapply for a gm position and GF should be able to give another slot and another gm name in order to continiou offering their services in the community
i have to disagree though on bringing this subject on this forum
those who felt there is something wrong going on decided to create a petition and nothing more than that in order to show GF their concerns
after that petition was created though i saw post about boting and multiple accounts which to me seemed nothing more as a personal issue
there were accusations against this players name the same way there was accusations against certain gms
but as things stand at least for me both sides were wrong
among kami side there were accusations about gms exploiting and more
among kara side there were accusations about boting of a certain player
both sides used propaganda if i can call it like that both accusations collapse and the only looser is the game and the community
enough damage was caused and i doubt things will be the same again
but accuse a whole side kami or kara for certain peoples actions is totally wrong
*Brain down for upgrade, don't try to understand my logic, I don't...*
sorry shez, dodgy memory I cant remember why I thought you were an ex-csr
maybe as it was you always helped everyone
GF could be new to MMO's but it's not new to multiplayer games and communities.... it's not possible that, or i would throw entire sysadmins and developers out of a window.
I never seen a Company having such a security holes as seems you are thinking all. It's possible to suspect for unfair ingame actions, and there are logs to check that, but for sure it's not possible to believe that CSR's *can* crash or reboot servers at will. Point.
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I guess GF is actually listening after all.
My mistake in doubting their sincerity.
i sadly missed the CSR chat but have already read the log file, thanks for th eone who went to the trouble of putting that up, im glad to read u guys are all paranoid heh
Jackoba, I belive you're just a bit to angry about it all. Why dont you calm down before typing up flames that could burn. All you seem to offer are hateful and harsh words. People were unsure about some CSRs and wanted them investigated. This was done, and although they found the things mentioned to be untrue, they did move things around.
Whether they moved things around because some people quit, or because they found it necessary to move things around doesn't matter. It's a moot point. What matters is that there was an investigation, stricter rules have been put in place to keep anything from happening, and CSRs were moved around.
Stop throwing slurs. It's useless, and shows other possible players that the Ryzom community has idiots just like other MMOs. Not to say you are always an idiot of course.
~Lheage~
kieko there is a difference to "people were unsure about some CSR's and wanted them investigated" than the repeated post on ryzom.com com suggesting all CSR's should be banned, There is a report CSR e-mail address which is the proper channel,
lots of ppl threw accusations about about the CSR's into the public domain and damaged their reputation coz they were simply throwing a hissy fit. I am angry, I think more people should have been banned for throwing baseless claims into the public domain.
The same people who always think there is some percieved unfairness to the game made up this BS and we all know who they are (and their cheerleaders who join in to show solidarity as they too stupid to think alone)
but its all over now, the result didnt matter as said people wouldnt believe anything bar "we found all CSR's to be corrupt scum and we have banned them all"
This whole situation and what people will believe is sickening.
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