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The similarities between WoW and WAR...
SeveredFate
Member Posts: 9
basically, blizz ran out of ideas, did a little ctrl + C and ctrl + V on some of the warhammer lore / art, which has been around for DECADES before WC was even an afterthought.
There, thats where it starts, and ends. It's skin deep. They may look the same, WoW came out 1st, who cares, warhammer has been here for ages. If anything, WoW copied warhammer. If ppl would actually read at max 3 articles on WAR they'd realize that its nothing like WoW THANK GOD. WoW - PvE WAR - PvP. Its much more thought out and much more brutal than WoW.
Iunno where im goin after that. Feel free to add to this, flame me, ignore me, touch me inappropriately, I enjoy them all.
Sticky plz.
/rant off
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Wrong.
Blizz gets hired by GW to make a Warhammer RTS.
For whatever reason, GW stops them.
Since Blizz had put so much work into it, they rename it and make up their own lore.
Something like that.
I think you're deluding yourself, SeveredFate. I know Paul Barnett is trying his utmost to make the game sound very brutal, but keep in mind that we're talking about a teen rated game with safe zones and instanced battlegrounds based around popular mini-games such as Capture the Flag (CTF). Heck, you can't even claim that Sword of Sharpness from the enemy you just killed and I'm willing to make a bet that you can't make the infamous *assrape* emote we came to love in Ultima Online either. Pardon my french.
This game most likely won't be any more brutal than World of Warcraft. I could be wrong though.
And man, I've been looking at the screenshots of war and I don't even think they look as good as wow. Maybe more detail but the models are kind of cheezy.
I don't consider war a pvp game. Well I do kind of but in the sense of counterstrike. It's basically facilitated arena combat. Check out AOC. That looks promising. IT reminds me of daoc combined with uo. War reminds me of Wow, with bigger arenas.
I don't understand sheeple. Do a search you will only find 100+ threads on this topic yet everyone feels the need to be an OP.
The horse is dead jim... You can stop beating it any time now.
It is simple... WoW has the most subscribers of any P2P MMO ever.
WAR is an RvR centric MMO coming out in 08.
AoC is a 1/2 PvE and 1/2 PvP game coming out in 3 months.
The sheeple need to sit down and shut up.
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Ever see Warhammer's artwork that's been out for years? Well before Blizzard existed? Yeah they used their style. Look at the Warhammer figures and books for a clue. Or you could just read the several other threads about this exact same subject and see people explain to you sheeple this same thing over and over and over.
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Can someone please point to a game that has photo realistic graphics ? EQ1, EQ2, SWG and Vangaurd were not even remotely realistic IMHO. Also compare human models in WAR to WoW and you'll see a huge difference. It's really odd that some people point to dwarfs and orcs as reference but I've haven't seen anyone point to humans in reference to both games because IMHO it's obvious t hat WAR has human models that are more serious and accurate looking then those found in WoW.
Warhammer Priest of Sigmar
WoW Allaince Paladin
Non-SOGA EQ2 Human
Frankly IMHO the WAR model looks way better out of the three here.
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
Do you honestly think anyone else besides you gives a crap who was first? The average gamer doesn't sit here and research every game he buys to death to find out the truth. The average gamer will notice that WoW came out over 2 years ago, and WAR is new, and deduce the newer copied the older one.
That being said, if you are not happy with WoW and WAR turns out to be the same thing, you won't like WAR for very long. The entire arguement of who copied who is completely meaningless if people are looking for a new game experience and end up buying a copy of the game they left. Mythic is targeting the current subscribers of World of Warcraft who are happy with it, and I believe they will do so successfully. The real PvP player will be turned off by instancing and safe zones. If the competition is offering a new gameplay experience and FFA PvP servers (which I think every game should have), then Mythic may find that they may need to Innovate more. Regardless, Mythic is probably going to make a killing on this title.
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And man, I've been looking at the screenshots of war and I don't even think they look as good as wow. Maybe more detail but the models are kind of cheezy.
This proves that at least one WoW fanboi has limited reading comprehension. WAR copied its art style and races off the Tabletop game of Warhammer Fantasy and they did this accuratly. WoW was origonally going to be a new Warhammer MMO till games workshop decided it wasant good enough so pulled the plug. So blizzard re-named it altered some palce anmes and released it as World of Warcraft.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Well personally i feel that WAR deservs success more than WoW as WAR copied of Games Workshop with there permission unlike WoW.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
similair? yes.
a human is a humna and a dwarf is a dwarf how many diff ways can you create them? so unless a game creates its own races from scratch you're going to have the same look. ie trees and cliffs and castles are all going to be the same.. because they are the same thing warhammer is a warhammer you go some flat you have some with spikes and nice colours... but yeah they are going to look the same sorry we can invent new colours and what a hammer should be or what a sword is because then they wouldnt be swords or hammers....
wow was fun for a while war looks like it sucks butt. waiting for something else maybe aoc
And man, I've been looking at the screenshots of war and I don't even think they look as good as wow. Maybe more detail but the models are kind of cheezy.
This proves that at least one WoW fanboi has limited reading comprehension. WAR copied its art style and races off the Tabletop game of Warhammer Fantasy and they did this accuratly. WoW was origonally going to be a new Warhammer MMO till games workshop decided it wasant good enough so pulled the plug. So blizzard re-named it altered some palce anmes and released it as World of Warcraft.
Proves a WoW hater knows nothing. Blizzard did not make WoW and say hey GW want to buy our MMO?I think you mean the orignal RTS games, but again you talk crap unless you can provide proof of your statment... which you cant, the whole Warcraft was goona be warhammer is a myth with no grounding or proof.
Yes Warcraft was inspired by Warhammer (Visually), blizzard event thank gameworkshop in WC1 credits. But aside from a few races that all pre-date Warhammer such as Dwarfs and Orks Warcraft and Warhammer are 2 very different games.
Heres the warcraft story,
Warcraft 1
The human mage Medivh, scion of a mortal human and one of the last guardians, comes under the influence of the long dead dark Titan, Sargeras. Mad with lust and power, he offers the world of Azeroth to the bloodthirsty Orcs in exchange for the Titan's powers and unanswering loyalty of the Orcish Horde.
The Orcs begin a swift invasion of Azeroth but are, at first, beaten back and Medivh himself is slain, putting an end to his quest for power and domination. However, fortunes turn when the Orcs assassinate King Llane, sack Stormwind Keep (the capital of Azeroth), and drive the humans from Azeroth to Lordaeron (setting the story for Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness).
Warcarft 2
The Orcish Horde staged a renewed invasion against the Humans. The survivors of Azeroth had fled to Lordaeron and the remaining Human nations banded together into the Alliance to withstand the Horde. They were joined by the High Elves of Quel'thalas and the Dwarves of Khaz Modan. The Alliance repelled assault on the southern shores of Lordaeron but came under siege in Quel'thalas and Khaz Modan. Gradually, the Alliance armies repelled the Horde. They faced treachery from the Nation of Alterac, which had started working with the Horde when the invasion began.
The Horde itself had become divided when Gul'dan split off his Stormreaver clan. Together with Cho'gall and his Twilight's Hammer clan, he searched for the Tomb of Sargeras. Orgrim Doomhammer, Warchief of the Horde, needed to dispatch some of his forces to deal with Gul'dan, weakening the Horde's front.
Eventually, the armies of the Alliance pressed into Azeroth and laid waste to the Orcish main base at Blackrock Spire, a battle in which the Alliance lost Lothar, their military commander. The final battle was fought at the Dark Portal, the gateway between Azeroth and the Orcish homeworld Draenor. The Archmage Khadgar destroyed the portal but did not seal the rift between the two worlds
Warcraft 2 - expansion
The Orcs, now under the leadership of Ner'zhul, staged a new invasion of Azeroth and overwhelmed the citadel of Nethergarde, which guarded the remnants of the portal. The Alliance itself had been splintered after the Second War and Kul Tiras and Stromgarde had withdrawn their support. The arch-mage Khadgar summoned heroes of Azeroth, Alleria Windrunner, Danath Trollbane Turalyon and Kurdran Wildhammer to rally the forces of the Alliance. The Horde was beaten back and Khadgar decided to take the initiative to push through the Portal into the Orcs' homeland. Before being pushed back, Ner'zhul managed to steal the spellbook of Medivh which was needed to create new Portals.
The Alliance gained a foothold in Draenor while the Orcs reorganized and made preparations to seal the rift forever. Khadgar needed the spellbook of Medivh and the Skull of Gul'dan to accomplish it. They razed the fortress of Auchindoun, seat of Ner'zhul's Shadow Council. While the Alliance army and navy only barely held out, Khadgar managed to acquire the items with help from the Laughing Skull Clan. Ner'zhul managed to open portals to the Twisting Nether and escaped through one of the new Portals. The violent energies began to destroy Draenor and also threatened Azeroth. Khadgar destroyed the Portal on the side of Draenor to prevent harm to Azeroth, trapping the remaining Alliance forces beyond the Dark Portal in the dying land of Draenor.
Warcraft 3
The Alliance, pagan night elves, and divided Horde are waging war against each other once more. Separated by appearance, religion and culture, old hatreds bring these forces against one another. Meanwhile, the undead are spreading throughout the world, yet nobody knows why. In an untimely turn of events, a vast, demonic army of Hell-spawned demon warriors, the Burning Legion, have returned to destroy the land of Azeroth after having been banished for 10,000 years. Only by looking past their ancient hatreds for each other and standing together against true evil can the citizens of the world defeat the Burning Legion.
The Alliance was finally victorious over the Orcish Horde, driving them back to their magical world rift, and ultimately sealing it, sending the remainder of the Orcs to internment camps. But the cost was heavy, and the Alliance began to splinter under the weight of it's own prejudice. Many years after the victory, the Prince of Lordaeron, a paladin under the service of Uther Lightbringer, and Thrall, the new war chief of the Horde receive a visit from a mysterious prophet, foretelling great danger to any who do not flee across the Great Sea to the west. Although Thrall heeds the advice, the Prince does not. An undead army is rising. Lordaeron is falling. And tales of a powerful evil, the Burning Legion, are spreading. What future lies in store for the world of Azeroth? Will this once peaceful land ever know peace again?
Warcraft 3 - expansion
Illidan Stormrage, demon-hunter-turned-Demon, terrorizes the world with a strange underwater race of warriors. An exiled elven people abandon their corrupted Human allies, to seek a cure for their crippling addiction to magic. In the midst of this conflict, an Undead Warrior seeks the icy lair of his master, the Lich King. With the Burning Legion defeated, the Lich King can use Arthas for what the King always desired: Freedom.
After the defeat of the demon armies and the fall of Archimonde at the Battle of Mount Hyjal, evils have risen from the aftermath. Illidain Stormrage has called forth a mysterious race of sea warriors and begins to travel the world leaving destruction in his wake, while his former enslaver, the elven warden Maiev Shadowsong, hunts him down. Meanwhile, another demon lord from the depths of Hell, Kel'jaden, arises and commissions the three remaining dreadlords (as well as Illidain) to destroy the Lich King, whom has elected to free himself from the control of the demons. Grand Marshall Garishos has formed a post-apocalyptic alliance in order to rebuild what is left of the former great cities, but the Alliance grows corrupt over time. The survivors of the high elves of Quel'Thalas, now known as the Blood Elves, betray the corrupt Alliance and join Illidain. Meanwhile, Arthas continues to destroy remnants of the previous alliance and any signs of life. Arthas's personal forces are summoned by the ailing Lich King to travel to the Frozen Throne, the Lich King's prison, and stop Kel'jaden and the demon forces from destroying him.
1. If im talking crap becaus i ddint post proof does that mean you will post proof then or is what you are saying crap too?
2.Also in the yellow highlighted bit how come then your kind keeps on comming here making Flame topics like, 'WAR looks like WoW'?
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
1. If im talking crap becaus i ddint post proof does that mean you will post proof then or is what you are saying crap too? So because we cannot prove it then it must be true? In short dont post something you cannot prove, posting urban myths as fact is not a good idea.
2.Also in the yellow highlighted bit how come then your kind keeps on comming here making Flame topics like, 'WAR looks like WoW'? My kind?.... grasping at straws now ain't we?
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Right not saying anyhting more aboutt his bit dont want to take this off topic.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Right not saying anyhting more aboutt his bit dont want to take this off topic.
I like all of the pretty colors you are typing in.
That is all... please continue.
"There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer."
Warhammer 25+ years of IP
Warcraft 15 years of IP
WoW - Evil forces known as the Burning Legion ( Demons ) from another dimension invade the world
WAR - Evil forces known as the Hordes of Chaos ( Demons ) invade from another dimension invade the world.
WoW - Orcs from outer space invade and run a muck.
WAR - Orcs who are said not to be native to the Warhammer world and reproduce via fungal spores invade and run a muck.
Dark Portal = Chaos Gates
WAR Dark Elves = High Elves in WoW
Night Elves = High Elves in WAR
Stormwind/Alliance Humans = The Empire
Burning Legion = Hordes of Chaos
Scourge in WoW = Nagash and his army of undead in Warhammer that once invaded the Empire.
WoW - Arthas former hero of the Alliance who falls from grace
WAR - Archeon "Lord of End Times" rumored to be a former hero of the Empire who falls from grace. He succumbs to the taint of Chaos and leads the Hordes of Chaos.
God's known as the Titans in WoW = Lizardmen god's known as the Old Ones
The "Light" = Sigmar Religion
I could go on and on and on and on.......
Games I've played/tried out:WAR, LOTRO, Tabula Rasa, AoC, EQ1, EQ2, WoW, Vangaurd, FFXI, D&DO, Lineage 2, Saga Of Ryzom, EvE Online, DAoC, Guild Wars,Star Wars Galaxies, Hell Gate London, Auto Assault, Grando Espada ( AKA SoTNW ), Archlord, CoV/H, Star Trek Online, APB, Champions Online, FFXIV, Rift Online, GW2.
Game(s) I Am Currently Playing:
GW2 (+LoL and BF3)
QFT!
-Atziluth-
- Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
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Forces from another world invading=Yeah, no other fantasy but WoW and WAR use that....
Dark Portal=Yeah, never heard of any fantasy story bedies these two that have a gate to another dimension mentioned...
Elves and Dark Elves=ZOMG! Elves! Never seen those in fantasy before.
Heroes falling from grace=TOTALLY unique concept. Reeeaaalllly...
Titans/Old Ones=Gods? Interfering with mortals? Never happened before. EVER.
OK kids, let's face it. Yes these two series have similarties.....
TO EVERY SINGLE FANTASY WORLD/SERIES/IDEA SINCE THE DAWN OF BLOODY TIME.
Get over it. There are no original ideas.
QFT !