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consoles nearly a $20 BILLION a year industry
bhug
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08.07.16
With nearly $1B in sales last month (July 2007,) the console industry is looking at nearly $20,000,000,000 this year !! In contrast the PC gaming industry will have a tough time breaking $1B
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software sales
1. NCAA Football 08 (360; Electronic Arts) 397,000
2. Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s (PS2; Activision) 339,000
3. Wii Play (Wii; Nintendo) 278,000
4. NCAA Football 08 (PS2; Electronic Arts) 236,000
5. Mario Party 8 (Wii; Nintendo) 177,000
6. NCAA Football 08 (PS3; Electronic Arts) 156,000
7. Pokemon Diamond (DS; Nintendo) 144,000
8. Transformers: The Game (PS2; Activision) 143,000
9. Guitar Hero 2 w/guitar (PS2; Activision) 138,000
10. Guitar Hero 2 w/guitar (360; Activision) 108,000
Just goes to show MMO PC gaming is a nich market (3 to 7 % of all gamers) at best.
Notice the asian gaming sales #s are absent, when more than half of gamers are asian !!
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Its also only 2 companies making 90% of that $20 billion.
Edit. They're projection is high. The projections are usually higher then what it actually is which always prompts the year end "Is the game industry dying?" articles. I would predict consoles make about $10 billion a year. One thing you should remember from any Game PR guy is that he he lying right to your face when they say anything about predictions or projections. Like the Sony Rep who says, we predict we will have 3 times as many sales despite the lack of evidence to support such claims.
There are usually 3 major selling times for games and thats in March, July, and December.
Yeah video games in general are a huuuuge market. Most people don't realize that the video games industry makes and spends more money each year than the movie industry does.
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Oh gawd, don't people get sick of rehashed sports games?
I'm surprised Madden football isn't on that list.
Oh gawd, don't people get sick of rehashed sports games?
i should hope so, we're all sick of rehashed MMOs aren't we?
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How can you not get NCAA Football 2008? You can design your own sneakers.
That's last months sales hehe. Anybody who picks up a sports game generally gets it within 2 weeks of it being released.
Madden sales alone can match WoW's annual profit hahaha. It is interesting to see how many people do not know the market of console gaming. As for high projections, yes they're high, but not double what the poster way up above thinks. EA's fiscal year shows that they basically make near what you estimated - $10 billion.
PC gaming has always been the red headed stepchild of gaming....MMO gamers are black sheep of that group.
MMO's original promise that helped spark the interest of investors was the promise of the recurring monthly fee. Now that after 10 years of game launches there are less then 6 games that have actually panned out in the west. You are probably going to see a cooling off of interest in the genre by investors and you will probably see a drastic drop off of new games in development (traditional monthly sub MMO's) after this next wave hits live over the next two to three years. The lack of hardware standardization in PC gaming doesn't help either. With a console, you can throw the disk in and play....with MMO's especially, you gotta patch them, add drivers and whatever other hoops you need to jump through, then tweak again ingame.........
Do these figures include monthly subscriptions?
Cause it is clear that many PC Gamers play mmorpgs, and while they are paying for such an MMORPG, not alot of other games are bought.
Either way, when just 1 game can get 9 million subs, it is clear there is a nice market for MMORPG's and with all the new games comming out it is clear companies realise that.
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Furthermore it looks like these figures include Hardware ...
I think if you include the hardware sales of PC's in the PC Game industry their figure will rise quite a bit lol
And in the provided link they keep talking about the "Game Industry", so that means this includes PC Games?
All very unclear data imho.
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Yeah notice 3 are the same game... Also notice it's a lowbrow rehash sports game (hence the year after it) I couldn't tell you for the life of me why people go for things like NCAA 2006, 2007, 20008. I mean sports are sports, what do they do to it each year that makes consumers want to buy it (besides advertise the hell out of it)?
Flawed statistics thats all there is to it. THey make you see what you wanna see
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The game you speak of is for this up comming season. Not a rehash of last season. New graphics, play modes, new stats on old players, new players added to the game.
Why do you/we buy the newest MMO when they release?
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There is the requirements for Crysis which by far has the best graphics of any game and you could build a computer to play that well under $1k. Probably around $650.
If it is only software then that is probably more accurate.
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7.8.27
The three NCAA Football 08 listings are seperate due to them being xbox360, ps2 and ps3 versions; like guitar hero 2 is seperated between ps2 and xbox360.
According to BestBuy , China (Ch) is a $100B a year consumer electronics market, second only to $120B US market. China is also the second largest internet user (137M users; +400M across asia;) and is expected to surpass the US within three years; depending on how the government keeps it's foot on the net to suppress exposure and communication between it's citizens. (Like M$ does through Vista.)
The games market in SK (South Korea,) one of the ten largest worldwide markets, is valued at more than $1B. The Ch market is valued over $1.3B (2007.) And the emerging India market will soon be another major worldwide contender. (NCsoft, Neowiz, Netease, NHN, Perfect World, Shanda, Soft-World, Tencent and The9 crossed the $100 million revenue mark in 2006.)
Much of the worldwide PC hardware comes from Tiawan, not the US.
So, a "serious" evaluation of worldwide 'gaming' must not exclude asia, so statistics are not skewed for illustrating occidental (US and Euro) 'gaming.'
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$50 pre-order Crysis 13 Nov 2007 release btw, will use the CryENGINE 2 middleware, a shader 4 DX10 engine. So obviously a 1990s shader 2 gpu and dial-up 56k would be rather lacking.
yep, these stats are us and eu i would most likely presume
i~ku~ra
Madden came out in the middle of this month, it is probably going to own the top 3 spots for this month and the next.
Yep, the PC Gaming industry is dead, again! I guess I should just up and sell my computer. I mean, other than games, I really don't use it for very much, and now that the PC gaming industry is dead, it's just taking up space in my apartment.
I'm glad all the console fanboys have clued me in and shown me the way. I need to forget about the great variety of control devices and the ability to really customize your games with lots of choices in a game's preferences. I'll just stick with consoles in the future, so I can be l33t and stuff.
Thanks for opening my eyes.
MMO's have been sucking wind though.
i perfer to play shooters on consoles, and i perfer RTS on PCs, so im split between the 2. I dont like to take sides on console or PC, considering i play them both, sometimes ill play my 360 for a few months and not my PC and vice versa.
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MMO's have been sucking wind though.
I think he was being sarcastic.
Yeah, rehashed sports games is kinda pushing it. Someone said before that new rosters, new stats, new options...even new game mechanics show up every year. When one of those titles doesn't receive these things (I think it happened only twice), Updated rosters can be downloaded and the new product doesn't have to be purchased.
Eww, to the guy who said he would rather play shooters on consoles. Just my opinion. Alright, my trolling is done.
P.s. It doesn't surprise me at all how well the console gaming industry is doing. It's plug "n" play, portable, and cheaper than a mid rig. Software is churned out weekly (pc too, but you know what I mean... more titles in the different genres).
I consider myself a gamer so I use consoles and my PC. Depending on what I want out of a game I will purchase it for a particular thing. Older example would be something like...If a game came out for Xbox and Playstation, usually I would purchase the xbox version due to better use of their graphix ie within an ie: Max Payne 2 or Any of the Splinter Cell games looked alot better on Xbox than it did on PS2. However...PS2 had Tekken, Soul Caliber 3 and Metal Gear which had to be bought for it because those only came out for that system.
Like, it took Link to make me get a Wii. I bought a gamecube for Mario Kart, Metroid, and Resident Evil 4. Ninja Gaiden is what made me originally buy an Xbox. I got a 360 to play NBA2k7. Shit, back to my dreamcast, it was the first Soul Caliber that made me get that.
Having a PC tho it goes beyond gaming. I also like using a keyboard and mouse for shooters and such.
One day I actually think console gaming will meld into PC gaming where your PC is your console, among other things in your smart-home.
I can't play 90% of the games I enjoy most on consoles, so why do I care even one tiny bit?
The PC gaming industry is as healthy as it has ever been, and growing stronger every year. The entire gaming industry is gobbling up massive entertainment dollar market share.
I've said it many times before on this forum: interactive gaming, especially the online kind, is the future of entertainment. Whether it's done on a PC or a console is irrelevant...it's here to stay.
Absolutely. The figures really don't matter, we all know the console market, at least within two years of a consoles release, is huge and takes a lot of gaming dollars in.
All the more reason to Cross Pollinate when you design a game. While it might have been ok in the past to rely on PC's or a single console, the future of Massively Multiplayer Online games will be Cross Platformed.
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