um, please don't joke. I'm scared. Bombing Iran would be the most dangerous thing to do right now.
If it does happen, it'll be the last straw for me remaining in this country. I won't be here when the entire eastern hemisphere decides to obliterate this country. Netherlands/Canada, here I come.
And for those of you saying "You're a spineless asshole for running out on your country", I say this, all that this country once stood for, all that so many died for, and continue to die for, has been smashed, chopped, burned, scattered, stomped, and then pissed on in just a few short years (and it wasn't just Bush, this has been in the making for a while). I'll never criticize a soldier, someone with enough guts to actually put their lives on the line, regardless of the events coming to pass.
But, between the god damn money sink that has been Iraq, the stocks plummeting, unchecked rampaging politicians, the dirty old men running the country, the hypocrisy, the lies, and on top of it, that Washington would even *consider* any violent action on Iran with all the pockets we have our hands in, I'm sick of it, and I won't watch it anymore. As one man, I can't change much, and quite frankly, I wouldn't wish the public scrutiny of actually forming some kind of voice on my worst enemy, I'm just going to leave.
All pending, of course, on Iran, or any other recent developments. I'm not saying there's not shitty politics in other places over the world, but really, our country is by far the worst when it comes to it.
You're quite welcome in Belgium too. It's the slightly more sensible version of the Netherlands.
Tho it would be a shame if you were to leave your country. You have a lot of stupid "patriots" to make up for.
We get manhunt 2 though. and we have better beer.
Saying the Dutch are better at brewing beer than the Belgians is as absurd as saying the Belgians are better at soccer than the Dutch. You're just saying that to piss me off.
And if people don't beleive the global superiority of Belgian beer, just check out beeradvocate.com.
oh please, anybody who had Heineken beer knows the dutch beer is superior (to anything in the world, that is).
Okay, Belgium makes better fries, I'll give you that, but we definetly win the beer award, and you know its true!
ABSOLUTE BLASPHEMY!!!!
Heineken isn't even beer imho. And no Heineken beer get's a score higher than 78 on beeradvocate.com. While for example Duvel gets a 91. Even an average Belgian beer get's an 82. I'm talking about Hoegaarden.
The best beer is Belgian, Westvleteren. I'd loe to get my hands on one of those...
BTW, I love vodka and Absolut is my favorite. (Tho I once drank an obscure bottle of Polish Wodka and the few things I actually CAN remembver indicate I liked it)
I like Vodka because it makes one easily and cheaply drunk, is much more easily concealed and doesn't give a hangover as heavy as strong Belgian beer does.
I once did 13 Double shots (in Iceland so they are more like triple shots in America) of Absolut. BTW it was in 1 hour. The last thing I remember is stealing the Stripper's shot. My friends said I threw it all up. That is the only time I have had a hangover or have gotten sick.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
um, please don't joke. I'm scared. Bombing Iran would be the most dangerous thing to do right now.
Not as dangerous as not bombing Iran.
They won't stop unless we stop them. They want us out of the middle east, and they think we are too weak to prevent it.
Dutch people say funny things and then laugh. Belgian people never do.
Dutch beer is gay. Belgian beer is the best.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
I think that it's more complicated than those false binaries outlined above. End serious part. Other:
I'm going to get a doctor friend to prescribe a few chill pills for President Ahmedn...something, Bush, Sarkozky, ElBaradei, and all of the other lil' kids throwing tantrums with nuclear weapons around the world... maybe a reward for anyone who can get a current world leader hooked on a good MMO.
um, please don't joke. I'm scared. Bombing Iran would be the most dangerous thing to do right now.
Not as dangerous as not bombing Iran.
They won't stop unless we stop them. They want us out of the middle east, and they think we are too weak to prevent it.
Dutch people say funny things and then laugh. Belgian people never do.
Dutch beer is gay. Belgian beer is the best.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
Because those old world lunatics have announced that they basically fooled U.N. inspectors and are well on their way to having multiple nuclear weapons.
If anyone is going to bomb Iran, it's going to be Israel. Either way, it's GOING to happen. Iran keeps moving towards the bomb..... Israel won't let it happen.
Very true. Anyone who truly wishes to see if the bible is a true prophetic publication will have their chance soon enough. The bible says Israel's enemies will not be able to touch Israel, and instead will have their attacks turned on them. So, basically, if ANYONE manages to nuke and destroy Israel, the bible is proven false. And Israel would not like to give up it's designation as "the chosen" people.
Again, this is why ANY government allowed to mix politics and religion is a recipe for disaster, not only for that government's country, but for the world at large.
In a lot of ways the world would be a better place if they could just drop a dome around the middle East (Minus Isreal) like in the Simpsons movie (when the EPA Dropped a Dome around Springfield).
Yeah it would suck for awhile not having that Oil, but then they would no longer have western influence in their culture.
Either that or get rid of this damn dependence on Middle Eastern Oil.
I would love to see the US or China come up with a feasible alternative fuel source and then drop Oil like a bad habit. It would be pretty funny to see the Middle East fall into the Stone Age fairly quickly. Since they don't spend their money on actually helping their fellow countryman or their country itself. With the amount of money they are raking in the Middle East should be the Beacon of social reform. They should have the best infrastructures, best roads, best schools, best healthcare, etc.
I wonder how many of them have saved up their cash and how many are actually spending like it will always flow in.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Most of them treat their citizens pretty well. Saudi Arabia is a utopian welfare state lol. Problem is they also spend gigantic amounts of money supporting their monarchy. There are over a 1000 if not alot more Saudi Royal Family members getting a ton of money siting on their butts.
Iran I don't know much about. They have a thriving upper class that is above the law basicaly. It became the same thing that their revolution over 30 years ago tried to get rid of.
um, please don't joke. I'm scared. Bombing Iran would be the most dangerous thing to do right now.
If it does happen, it'll be the last straw for me remaining in this country. I won't be here when the entire eastern hemisphere decides to obliterate this country. Netherlands/Canada, here I come.
And for those of you saying "You're a spineless asshole for running out on your country", I say this, all that this country once stood for, all that so many died for, and continue to die for, has been smashed, chopped, burned, scattered, stomped, and then pissed on in just a few short years (and it wasn't just Bush, this has been in the making for a while). I'll never criticize a soldier, someone with enough guts to actually put their lives on the line, regardless of the events coming to pass.
But, between the god damn money sink that has been Iraq, the stocks plummeting, unchecked rampaging politicians, the dirty old men running the country, the hypocrisy, the lies, and on top of it, that Washington would even *consider* any violent action on Iran with all the pockets we have our hands in, I'm sick of it, and I won't watch it anymore. As one man, I can't change much, and quite frankly, I wouldn't wish the public scrutiny of actually forming some kind of voice on my worst enemy, I'm just going to leave.
All pending, of course, on Iran, or any other recent developments. I'm not saying there's not shitty politics in other places over the world, but really, our country is by far the worst when it comes to it.
I'll put in a good word with our immigration service in the netherlands.I'm sure you're more then welcome here.
I wouldn't take belgium since the odds are big that country will split up and the flemish part will stick with us .However on the beer topic.LOL gameloading saying we got better beer then the belgiums do..you obviously live north in the netherlands and never tasted a good cold jupiler.The dutch beer is sold better in the world because we are better in marketing then the belgiums, the taste of the belgium beer though is alot better.They have more diversity in their beers and it doesn't taste like pisswater to start with.
um, please don't joke. I'm scared. Bombing Iran would be the most dangerous thing to do right now.
Not as dangerous as not bombing Iran.
They won't stop unless we stop them. They want us out of the middle east, and they think we are too weak to prevent it.
Dutch people say funny things and then laugh. Belgian people never do.
Dutch beer is gay. Belgian beer is the best.
Funny your stating as if starting another war solve it because they want "us" out.Maybe it could be a good idea to actually get the fck out of there and not put more heat on it.At a certain point they wouldn't want "us" to get out of the middle east but off of the frikking planet.
But hey we could go take on iran...then bomb palestina...basically whipe out all the middle east accept israel offcourse and since we are at it take out the african regions for once and for all and finish it off with nuking korea.Yeah i bet they'll love the west much more then.Surely they would....
Luckily we got the US with it's weapons of mass destruction and israell with it's weapons of mass destruction to get rid of all those countries who want to make weapons of mass destruction.....yeah cause we are such good friends with US and Israel and their weapons of mass destruction are only for "self defense" while other nations want them for "crimes against humanity".You do know most friendships don't laste......
Also i find the OP's message quite tasteless.Imagine your country being threat with an upcoming war and then me posting in an "amusing" way you best closed your gaming accounts cause you won't need em in the near future.Just shows how narrow minded one can be.At least you'll never have to wonder why more and more people are getting a negative idea about america.This is not the place to provoke people of other countries you may go to war with because in the end you're fighting against a government mostly these days and not the inhabitants of it.
I actually find it quite odd that this post isn't even reported since if i would have made this post around 9/11 stating to US players they best close their accounts cause i "have a feeling" more is coming that way that it would be locked and removed allmost immediatlyand that i would have gotten a big warning at least for making such a topic.But hey freedom of speech don't you just love it....
But hey we could go take on iran...then bomb palestina...basically whipe out all the middle east accept israel offcourse and since we are at it take out the african regions for once and for all and finish it off with nuking korea.Yeah i bet they'll love the west much more then.Surely they would....
no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
But hey we could go take on iran...then bomb palestina...basically whipe out all the middle east accept israel offcourse and since we are at it take out the african regions for once and for all and finish it off with nuking korea.Yeah i bet they'll love the west much more then.Surely they would....
no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Sarcasm
Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm
You'll find that i used that a lot in my previous post to point out that i found an attack on Iran stupid for the purposes the person i quoted stated.Also you'll find that i used sarcasm to point out that in fact i don't like it that the US government talks about weapons of mass destruction while they themselves have a shitload of massdestructive weapons.Also to point out that i disliked the original post i used a sarcastic way to point out that if this post was about america around 9/11 it would've been removed.Hope that clarifies my use of sarcasm for you.
But hey we could go take on iran...then bomb palestina...basically whipe out all the middle east accept israel offcourse and since we are at it take out the african regions for once and for all and finish it off with nuking korea.Yeah i bet they'll love the west much more then.Surely they would....
no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Sarcasm
Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm
You'll find that i used that a lot in my previous post to point out that i found an attack on Iran stupid for the purposes the person i quoted stated.Also you'll find that i used sarcasm to point out that in fact i don't like it that the US government talks about weapons of mass destruction while they themselves have a shitload of massdestructive weapons.Also to point out that i disliked the original post i used a sarcastic way to point out that if this post was about america around 9/11 it would've been removed.Hope that clarifies my use of sarcasm for you.
Well my mistake then, i guess i didnt read all of the post.
But hey we could go take on iran...then bomb palestina...basically whipe out all the middle east accept israel offcourse and since we are at it take out the african regions for once and for all and finish it off with nuking korea.Yeah i bet they'll love the west much more then.Surely they would....
no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Sarcasm
Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm
You'll find that i used that a lot in my previous post to point out that i found an attack on Iran stupid for the purposes the person i quoted stated.Also you'll find that i used sarcasm to point out that in fact i don't like it that the US government talks about weapons of mass destruction while they themselves have a shitload of massdestructive weapons.Also to point out that i disliked the original post i used a sarcastic way to point out that if this post was about america around 9/11 it would've been removed.Hope that clarifies my use of sarcasm for you.
Well my mistake then, i guess i didnt read all of the post.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
I'm just attempting to address the issue from a balanced perspective. The U.S. is not the only warmongering nation with designs on the Middle East. If you take the U.S. out fo the middle east, it won't suddenly and magically become a nice stable region. The wars won't stop.
Neither does the Middle East belong to Iran anymore than it belongs to America. It is equally as immoral for Iranians to militarily intervene in the other Middle Eastern nations as it is any other countries.
Iran is not the Middle East. It is one country in the Middle East.
Neither does the "Middle East" want America out. Many nations in the Middle East do. Many nations in the Middle East are dependant on American trade and American military protection. Not only do many nations of the Middle East want America in, but the other nations don't just want non Middle Easterners out. The Sunni nations want the Shia nations out. The Arabs want the Persians and Jews out. Everyone wants the Palestinians out. (Even the Palestinians). The Turkomen want the Kurds out, the Shia want the kurds out the Sunni's want the Kurds out. The Jews want the Muslims and the Christians out.
It's not a load of innocents all being unreasonably aggravated by evil invading America. They are all as bad as each other.
We don't just let them be, because of there is not enough oil on the planet for everyone.
Is your lifestyle worth fighting for. Or are you willing to let someone else have it instead? Do you wish your children to inherit the same rich stable and secure country you did......
Or are you willing to let it slide?
For every mouthful of food on the planet there are two hungry mouths. If you are not willing to fight for it, then it isn't going to be yours for long. It doesn't matter how nice, enlightened and peaceful you are willing to be when you are feeling well fed. It doesn't end there.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
I'm just attempting to address the issue from a balanced perspective. The U.S. is not the only warmongering nation with designs on the Middle East. If you take the U.S. out fo the middle east, it won't suddenly and magically become a nice stable region. The wars won't stop.
Neither does the Middle East belong to Iran anymore than it belongs to America. It is equally as immoral for Iranians to militarily intervene in the other peoples nations as it is any other countries.
Iran is not the middle east. It is one country in the middle east.
Neither does the "Middle East" want America out. Many nations in the middle east are dependant on American trade and American military protection. Not only do many nations of the middle east want America in, but the other nations don't just want non middle easterners out. The Sunni nations want the Shia nations out. The Arabs want the Persians and Jews out. Everyone wants the Palestinians out. (Even the Palestinians). The Turkomen want the Kurds out. The Jews want the Muslims and the Christians out.
It's not a load of innocents all being unreasonably aggravated by evil invading America. They are all as bad as each other.
We don't just let them be, because of there is not enough oil on the planet for everyone.
Is your lifestyle worth fighting for. Or are you willing to let someone else have it instead? Do you wish your children to inherit the same rich stable and secure country you did......
Or are you willing to let it slide?
For every mouthful of food on the planet there are two hungry mouths. If you are not willing to fight for it, then it isn't going to be yours for long. It doesn't matter how nice, enlightened and peaceful you are willing to be when you are feeling well fed. It doesn't end there.
Protect what you have or lose it.
Make your choice.
^ why I'm not voting for Ron Paul.
ps. It's not just Paul's fault, it's also the environmentalist idiots, but that's another issue...all that really needs to be said is that groups like PETA and Green Peace are the biggest obstacles that human progress faces today.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
Just like the evangelical movement in america then
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
Just like the evangelical movement in america then
Yeah i mean luckily true christians and jews don't live by a book 2000 years old...i mean that would be stupid wouldn't it..
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
I'm just attempting to address the issue from a balanced perspective. The U.S. is not the only warmongering nation with designs on the Middle East. If you take the U.S. out fo the middle east, it won't suddenly and magically become a nice stable region. The wars won't stop.
Neither does the Middle East belong to Iran anymore than it belongs to America. It is equally as immoral for Iranians to militarily intervene in the other Middle Eastern nations as it is any other countries.
Iran is not the Middle East. It is one country in the Middle East.
Neither does the "Middle East" want America out. Many nations in the Middle East do. Many nations in the Middle East are dependant on American trade and American military protection. Not only do many nations of the Middle East want America in, but the other nations don't just want non Middle Easterners out. The Sunni nations want the Shia nations out. The Arabs want the Persians and Jews out. Everyone wants the Palestinians out. (Even the Palestinians). The Turkomen want the Kurds out, the Shia want the kurds out the Sunni's want the Kurds out. The Jews want the Muslims and the Christians out.
It's not a load of innocents all being unreasonably aggravated by evil invading America. They are all as bad as each other.
We don't just let them be, because of there is not enough oil on the planet for everyone.
Is your lifestyle worth fighting for. Or are you willing to let someone else have it instead? Do you wish your children to inherit the same rich stable and secure country you did......
Or are you willing to let it slide?
For every mouthful of food on the planet there are two hungry mouths. If you are not willing to fight for it, then it isn't going to be yours for long. It doesn't matter how nice, enlightened and peaceful you are willing to be when you are feeling well fed. It doesn't end there.
Protect what you have or lose it.
Make your choice.
We have everything we need right here in our own country.
Honestly, I understand global trade. I know there are some countries who do need it. But we don't. Why don't we use that to our advantage? That's what I don't understand.
We don't need oil. American's are smart enough to figure out an optional energy source. The problem is, there's no necessity to right now. If that necessity were there then the innovation would come right behind it. And when we develop an alternative energy source then what power at all is the middle east going to have? Is their God going to then come and smite us for not needing their oil anymore?
I'm just sort of angry that we've gotten ourselves in a corner and now the only options seem to be invading other countries who have resources we "need". I think there used to be a time when we were smart enough to come up with things on our own. Now we've become so dependent on other nations and our government that we've lost all our independence and our ingenuity.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?
Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
Just like the evangelical movement in america then
Yeah, but luckily (at this point in time at least), we don't live under a theocracy. We've got enough people here who value a secular government to keep some glimmer of it in existence. It scares me if that ever goes away completely.
Yeah, but luckily (at this point in time at least), we don't live under a theocracy. We've got enough people here who value a secular government to keep some glimmer of it in existence. It scares me if that ever goes away completely.
Which may happen in america [Creationist museum, various senotors being openly religious etc].
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand
We have everything we need right here in our own country.
Honestly, I understand global trade. I know there are some countries who do need it. But we don't. Why don't we use that to our advantage? That's what I don't understand. We don't need oil. American's are smart enough to figure out an optional energy source. The problem is, there's no necessity to right now. If that necessity were there then the innovation would come right behind it. And when we develop an alternative energy source then what power at all is the middle east going to have? Is their God going to then come and smite us for not needing their oil anymore? I'm just sort of angry that we've gotten ourselves in a corner and now the only options seem to be invading other countries who have resources we "need". I think there used to be a time when we were smart enough to come up with things on our own. Now we've become so dependent on other nations and our government that we've lost all our independence and our ingenuity.
That's what you think.
Would you pay for a pair of Nike twice the price if they were produced in US rather than China?
If you were to produce all the product u need in US, the inflation would shoot to the roof, due to higher labour costs to produce certain goods.
The US needs the rest of the world like every other state.
About the US interest in the middle east oil...........
It has nothing to do with the well being of American economy in general, but more with the well being of the US petrol corporations.
Bush has a strict bond with some of US oil corporation (which bankrolled his campaign), conquering Iraq gave the chance to those corporations to invest in the Iraqi Oil industry instead of the French (who agreed with Saddam Hussain a deal before the war, hence the French angry opposition to the invasion).
Any other reason why America went to war in Iraq are bollocks, just smokescreens to fool the voters.
Politics are driven by money not by the people will, unfortunately (and that's not only in US but everywhere).
The US doesn't have Coltan, little Bauxite, a decreasing supply of petroleum, no chromite, no or very, very little talc, no barites, very little or no lead, natural diamonds, very little uranium, no tungsten, ..........
I could go on and on and on. But I don't plan on reading the WHOLE cia factbook.
Until the permanent bases are done in Qatar and Iraq their will be no bombing of Iran,the Russians are still selling nukes stuff to Iran a long with china, until their contacts are done,which we have promised not to bomb the tell they milk as much money out of them as they can ! then we have a 3 day planed bombing of the plants and infrastructure,but their will be invasion per-say.remember this 65 percent of the population in under 30 yrs of age,and the Jews will not be allowed the to do the dirty work this time for one, we just gave them 30 billion in military stuff to keep the hand off Iran just another deal,and is what u have not been told is that their is a covert operation to under mind the economy before we level the bases and let their people deal with the clerics? one more thing whether Islam likes it or not their going to be forced into the 21 century.
To WHOM much is givin much is expected !!!
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
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If it does happen, it'll be the last straw for me remaining in this country. I won't be here when the entire eastern hemisphere decides to obliterate this country. Netherlands/Canada, here I come.
And for those of you saying "You're a spineless asshole for running out on your country", I say this, all that this country once stood for, all that so many died for, and continue to die for, has been smashed, chopped, burned, scattered, stomped, and then pissed on in just a few short years (and it wasn't just Bush, this has been in the making for a while). I'll never criticize a soldier, someone with enough guts to actually put their lives on the line, regardless of the events coming to pass.
But, between the god damn money sink that has been Iraq, the stocks plummeting, unchecked rampaging politicians, the dirty old men running the country, the hypocrisy, the lies, and on top of it, that Washington would even *consider* any violent action on Iran with all the pockets we have our hands in, I'm sick of it, and I won't watch it anymore. As one man, I can't change much, and quite frankly, I wouldn't wish the public scrutiny of actually forming some kind of voice on my worst enemy, I'm just going to leave.
All pending, of course, on Iran, or any other recent developments. I'm not saying there's not shitty politics in other places over the world, but really, our country is by far the worst when it comes to it.
You're quite welcome in Belgium too. It's the slightly more sensible version of the Netherlands.
Tho it would be a shame if you were to leave your country. You have a lot of stupid "patriots" to make up for.
We get manhunt 2 though. and we have better beer.
Saying the Dutch are better at brewing beer than the Belgians is as absurd as saying the Belgians are better at soccer than the Dutch. You're just saying that to piss me off.
And if people don't beleive the global superiority of Belgian beer, just check out beeradvocate.com.
oh please, anybody who had Heineken beer knows the dutch beer is superior (to anything in the world, that is).Okay, Belgium makes better fries, I'll give you that, but we definetly win the beer award, and you know its true!
ABSOLUTE BLASPHEMY!!!!
Heineken isn't even beer imho. And no Heineken beer get's a score higher than 78 on beeradvocate.com. While for example Duvel gets a 91. Even an average Belgian beer get's an 82. I'm talking about Hoegaarden.
The best beer is Belgian, Westvleteren. I'd loe to get my hands on one of those...
BTW, I love vodka and Absolut is my favorite. (Tho I once drank an obscure bottle of Polish Wodka and the few things I actually CAN remembver indicate I liked it)
I like Vodka because it makes one easily and cheaply drunk, is much more easily concealed and doesn't give a hangover as heavy as strong Belgian beer does.
I once did 13 Double shots (in Iceland so they are more like triple shots in America) of Absolut. BTW it was in 1 hour. The last thing I remember is stealing the Stripper's shot. My friends said I threw it all up. That is the only time I have had a hangover or have gotten sick.
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Not as dangerous as not bombing Iran.
They won't stop unless we stop them. They want us out of the middle east, and they think we are too weak to prevent it.
Dutch people say funny things and then laugh. Belgian people never do.
Dutch beer is gay. Belgian beer is the best.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
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I think that it's more complicated than those false binaries outlined above. End serious part. Other:
I'm going to get a doctor friend to prescribe a few chill pills for President Ahmedn...something, Bush, Sarkozky, ElBaradei, and all of the other lil' kids throwing tantrums with nuclear weapons around the world... maybe a reward for anyone who can get a current world leader hooked on a good MMO.
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Gore '08
If anyone is going to bomb Iran, it's going to be Israel.
Either way, it's GOING to happen. Iran keeps moving towards the bomb..... Israel won't let it happen.
Not as dangerous as not bombing Iran.
They won't stop unless we stop them. They want us out of the middle east, and they think we are too weak to prevent it.
Dutch people say funny things and then laugh. Belgian people never do.
Dutch beer is gay. Belgian beer is the best.
I am by no means saying that the people in the middle east are not allowing the most f'd up crap to go on in their country by asking you this question. But, if middle easterner's were in your part of the world telling you how to do your business wouldn't you want them out too?Why don't we just let them be? If they want to live like old world lunatics ranting about how ancient books tell them how to live in a modern world, then let them continue being ass backwards.
Because those old world lunatics have announced that they basically fooled U.N. inspectors and are well on their way to having multiple nuclear weapons.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20560698/
Very true. Anyone who truly wishes to see if the bible is a true prophetic publication will have their chance soon enough. The bible says Israel's enemies will not be able to touch Israel, and instead will have their attacks turned on them. So, basically, if ANYONE manages to nuke and destroy Israel, the bible is proven false. And Israel would not like to give up it's designation as "the chosen" people.
Again, this is why ANY government allowed to mix politics and religion is a recipe for disaster, not only for that government's country, but for the world at large.
Zorvan, you are the one adding a little too much religion into it. (definatly some there on both sides)...
But Here ist he recipe:
President of Iran says he wants to push Israel into the Sea/exterminate them etc.
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Making Nuke
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I'm sure reamining the chosen people is only a side effect of deciding to.. you know, exist.
In a lot of ways the world would be a better place if they could just drop a dome around the middle East (Minus Isreal) like in the Simpsons movie (when the EPA Dropped a Dome around Springfield).
Yeah it would suck for awhile not having that Oil, but then they would no longer have western influence in their culture.
Either that or get rid of this damn dependence on Middle Eastern Oil.
I would love to see the US or China come up with a feasible alternative fuel source and then drop Oil like a bad habit. It would be pretty funny to see the Middle East fall into the Stone Age fairly quickly. Since they don't spend their money on actually helping their fellow countryman or their country itself. With the amount of money they are raking in the Middle East should be the Beacon of social reform. They should have the best infrastructures, best roads, best schools, best healthcare, etc.
I wonder how many of them have saved up their cash and how many are actually spending like it will always flow in.
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Most of them treat their citizens pretty well. Saudi Arabia is a utopian welfare state lol. Problem is they also spend gigantic amounts of money supporting their monarchy. There are over a 1000 if not alot more Saudi Royal Family members getting a ton of money siting on their butts.
Iran I don't know much about. They have a thriving upper class that is above the law basicaly. It became the same thing that their revolution over 30 years ago tried to get rid of.
If it does happen, it'll be the last straw for me remaining in this country. I won't be here when the entire eastern hemisphere decides to obliterate this country. Netherlands/Canada, here I come.
And for those of you saying "You're a spineless asshole for running out on your country", I say this, all that this country once stood for, all that so many died for, and continue to die for, has been smashed, chopped, burned, scattered, stomped, and then pissed on in just a few short years (and it wasn't just Bush, this has been in the making for a while). I'll never criticize a soldier, someone with enough guts to actually put their lives on the line, regardless of the events coming to pass.
But, between the god damn money sink that has been Iraq, the stocks plummeting, unchecked rampaging politicians, the dirty old men running the country, the hypocrisy, the lies, and on top of it, that Washington would even *consider* any violent action on Iran with all the pockets we have our hands in, I'm sick of it, and I won't watch it anymore. As one man, I can't change much, and quite frankly, I wouldn't wish the public scrutiny of actually forming some kind of voice on my worst enemy, I'm just going to leave.
All pending, of course, on Iran, or any other recent developments. I'm not saying there's not shitty politics in other places over the world, but really, our country is by far the worst when it comes to it.
I'll put in a good word with our immigration service in the netherlands.I'm sure you're more then welcome here
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I wouldn't take belgium since the odds are big that country will split up and the flemish part will stick with us
.However on the beer topic.LOL gameloading saying we got better beer then the belgiums do..you obviously live north in the netherlands and never tasted a good cold jupiler.The dutch beer is sold better in the world because we are better in marketing then the belgiums, the taste of the belgium beer though is alot better.They have more diversity in their beers and it doesn't taste like pisswater to start with
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Not as dangerous as not bombing Iran.
They won't stop unless we stop them. They want us out of the middle east, and they think we are too weak to prevent it.
Dutch people say funny things and then laugh. Belgian people never do.
Dutch beer is gay. Belgian beer is the best.
Funny your stating as if starting another war solve it because they want "us" out.Maybe it could be a good idea to actually get the fck out of there and not put more heat on it.At a certain point they wouldn't want "us" to get out of the middle east but off of the frikking planet.
But hey we could go take on iran...then bomb palestina...basically whipe out all the middle east accept israel offcourse and since we are at it take out the african regions for once and for all and finish it off with nuking korea.Yeah i bet they'll love the west much more then.Surely they would....
Luckily we got the US with it's weapons of mass destruction and israell with it's weapons of mass destruction to get rid of all those countries who want to make weapons of mass destruction.....yeah cause we are such good friends with US and Israel and their weapons of mass destruction are only for "self defense" while other nations want them for "crimes against humanity".You do know most friendships don't laste......
Also i find the OP's message quite tasteless.Imagine your country being threat with an upcoming war and then me posting in an "amusing" way you best closed your gaming accounts cause you won't need em in the near future.Just shows how narrow minded one can be.At least you'll never have to wonder why more and more people are getting a negative idea about america.This is not the place to provoke people of other countries you may go to war with because in the end you're fighting against a government mostly these days and not the inhabitants of it.
I actually find it quite odd that this post isn't even reported since if i would have made this post around 9/11 stating to US players they best close their accounts cause i "have a feeling" more is coming that way that it would be locked and removed allmost immediatlyand that i would have gotten a big warning at least for making such a topic.But hey freedom of speech don't you just love it....
no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
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no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Sarcasm
Pronunciation:
'sär-"ka-z&mFunction: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
You'll find that i used that a lot in my previous post to point out that i found an attack on Iran stupid for the purposes the person i quoted stated.Also you'll find that i used sarcasm to point out that in fact i don't like it that the US government talks about weapons of mass destruction while they themselves have a shitload of massdestructive weapons.Also to point out that i disliked the original post i used a sarcastic way to point out that if this post was about america around 9/11 it would've been removed.Hope that clarifies my use of sarcasm for you.
no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Sarcasm
Pronunciation:
'sär-"ka-z&mFunction: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
You'll find that i used that a lot in my previous post to point out that i found an attack on Iran stupid for the purposes the person i quoted stated.Also you'll find that i used sarcasm to point out that in fact i don't like it that the US government talks about weapons of mass destruction while they themselves have a shitload of massdestructive weapons.Also to point out that i disliked the original post i used a sarcastic way to point out that if this post was about america around 9/11 it would've been removed.Hope that clarifies my use of sarcasm for you.
Well my mistake then, i guess i didnt read all of the post.
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no offence but if u think that, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Sarcasm
Pronunciation:
'sär-"ka-z&mFunction: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
You'll find that i used that a lot in my previous post to point out that i found an attack on Iran stupid for the purposes the person i quoted stated.Also you'll find that i used sarcasm to point out that in fact i don't like it that the US government talks about weapons of mass destruction while they themselves have a shitload of massdestructive weapons.Also to point out that i disliked the original post i used a sarcastic way to point out that if this post was about america around 9/11 it would've been removed.Hope that clarifies my use of sarcasm for you.
Well my mistake then, i guess i didnt read all of the post.
No problem
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I'm just attempting to address the issue from a balanced perspective. The U.S. is not the only warmongering nation with designs on the Middle East. If you take the U.S. out fo the middle east, it won't suddenly and magically become a nice stable region. The wars won't stop.
Neither does the Middle East belong to Iran anymore than it belongs to America. It is equally as immoral for Iranians to militarily intervene in the other Middle Eastern nations as it is any other countries.
Iran is not the Middle East. It is one country in the Middle East.
Neither does the "Middle East" want America out. Many nations in the Middle East do. Many nations in the Middle East are dependant on American trade and American military protection. Not only do many nations of the Middle East want America in, but the other nations don't just want non Middle Easterners out. The Sunni nations want the Shia nations out. The Arabs want the Persians and Jews out. Everyone wants the Palestinians out. (Even the Palestinians). The Turkomen want the Kurds out, the Shia want the kurds out the Sunni's want the Kurds out. The Jews want the Muslims and the Christians out.
It's not a load of innocents all being unreasonably aggravated by evil invading America. They are all as bad as each other.
We don't just let them be, because of there is not enough oil on the planet for everyone.
Is your lifestyle worth fighting for. Or are you willing to let someone else have it instead? Do you wish your children to inherit the same rich stable and secure country you did......
Or are you willing to let it slide?
For every mouthful of food on the planet there are two hungry mouths. If you are not willing to fight for it, then it isn't going to be yours for long. It doesn't matter how nice, enlightened and peaceful you are willing to be when you are feeling well fed. It doesn't end there.
Protect what you have or lose it.
Make your choice.
I'm just attempting to address the issue from a balanced perspective. The U.S. is not the only warmongering nation with designs on the Middle East. If you take the U.S. out fo the middle east, it won't suddenly and magically become a nice stable region. The wars won't stop.
Neither does the Middle East belong to Iran anymore than it belongs to America. It is equally as immoral for Iranians to militarily intervene in the other peoples nations as it is any other countries.
Iran is not the middle east. It is one country in the middle east.
Neither does the "Middle East" want America out. Many nations in the middle east are dependant on American trade and American military protection. Not only do many nations of the middle east want America in, but the other nations don't just want non middle easterners out. The Sunni nations want the Shia nations out. The Arabs want the Persians and Jews out. Everyone wants the Palestinians out. (Even the Palestinians). The Turkomen want the Kurds out. The Jews want the Muslims and the Christians out.
It's not a load of innocents all being unreasonably aggravated by evil invading America. They are all as bad as each other.
We don't just let them be, because of there is not enough oil on the planet for everyone.
Is your lifestyle worth fighting for. Or are you willing to let someone else have it instead? Do you wish your children to inherit the same rich stable and secure country you did......
Or are you willing to let it slide?
For every mouthful of food on the planet there are two hungry mouths. If you are not willing to fight for it, then it isn't going to be yours for long. It doesn't matter how nice, enlightened and peaceful you are willing to be when you are feeling well fed. It doesn't end there.
Protect what you have or lose it.
Make your choice.
^ why I'm not voting for Ron Paul.
ps. It's not just Paul's fault, it's also the environmentalist idiots, but that's another issue...all that really needs to be said is that groups like PETA and Green Peace are the biggest obstacles that human progress faces today.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Just like the evangelical movement in america then
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Just like the evangelical movement in america then
Yeah i mean luckily true christians and jews don't live by a book 2000 years old...i mean that would be stupid wouldn't it.
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I'm just attempting to address the issue from a balanced perspective. The U.S. is not the only warmongering nation with designs on the Middle East. If you take the U.S. out fo the middle east, it won't suddenly and magically become a nice stable region. The wars won't stop.
Neither does the Middle East belong to Iran anymore than it belongs to America. It is equally as immoral for Iranians to militarily intervene in the other Middle Eastern nations as it is any other countries.
Iran is not the Middle East. It is one country in the Middle East.
Neither does the "Middle East" want America out. Many nations in the Middle East do. Many nations in the Middle East are dependant on American trade and American military protection. Not only do many nations of the Middle East want America in, but the other nations don't just want non Middle Easterners out. The Sunni nations want the Shia nations out. The Arabs want the Persians and Jews out. Everyone wants the Palestinians out. (Even the Palestinians). The Turkomen want the Kurds out, the Shia want the kurds out the Sunni's want the Kurds out. The Jews want the Muslims and the Christians out.
It's not a load of innocents all being unreasonably aggravated by evil invading America. They are all as bad as each other.
We don't just let them be, because of there is not enough oil on the planet for everyone.
Is your lifestyle worth fighting for. Or are you willing to let someone else have it instead? Do you wish your children to inherit the same rich stable and secure country you did......
Or are you willing to let it slide?
For every mouthful of food on the planet there are two hungry mouths. If you are not willing to fight for it, then it isn't going to be yours for long. It doesn't matter how nice, enlightened and peaceful you are willing to be when you are feeling well fed. It doesn't end there.
Protect what you have or lose it.
Make your choice.
We have everything we need right here in our own country.Honestly, I understand global trade. I know there are some countries who do need it. But we don't. Why don't we use that to our advantage? That's what I don't understand.
We don't need oil. American's are smart enough to figure out an optional energy source. The problem is, there's no necessity to right now. If that necessity were there then the innovation would come right behind it. And when we develop an alternative energy source then what power at all is the middle east going to have? Is their God going to then come and smite us for not needing their oil anymore?
I'm just sort of angry that we've gotten ourselves in a corner and now the only options seem to be invading other countries who have resources we "need". I think there used to be a time when we were smart enough to come up with things on our own. Now we've become so dependent on other nations and our government that we've lost all our independence and our ingenuity.
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Just like the evangelical movement in america then
Yeah, but luckily (at this point in time at least), we don't live under a theocracy. We've got enough people here who value a secular government to keep some glimmer of it in existence. It scares me if that ever goes away completely.
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Which may happen in america [Creationist museum, various senotors being openly religious etc].
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
That's what you think.
Would you pay for a pair of Nike twice the price if they were produced in US rather than China?
If you were to produce all the product u need in US, the inflation would shoot to the roof, due to higher labour costs to produce certain goods.
The US needs the rest of the world like every other state.
About the US interest in the middle east oil...........
It has nothing to do with the well being of American economy in general, but more with the well being of the US petrol corporations.
Bush has a strict bond with some of US oil corporation (which bankrolled his campaign), conquering Iraq gave the chance to those corporations to invest in the Iraqi Oil industry instead of the French (who agreed with Saddam Hussain a deal before the war, hence the French angry opposition to the invasion).
Any other reason why America went to war in Iraq are bollocks, just smokescreens to fool the voters.
Politics are driven by money not by the people will, unfortunately (and that's not only in US but everywhere).
The US doesn't have Coltan, little Bauxite, a decreasing supply of petroleum, no chromite, no or very, very little talc, no barites, very little or no lead, natural diamonds, very little uranium, no tungsten, ..........
I could go on and on and on. But I don't plan on reading the WHOLE cia factbook.
Then there's foreign technology, foreign contruction, foreign investment, foreign manual labour, ......
You think a cellphone would still only cost $100?
Get real. The US is immensely dependant on trade. Look at its trade deficit among other indicators.
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I wonder what Iranian beer tastes like....oh wait...
I've grown a fondness for mead, those Norse sure knew what they were doing. A bit sweet for some, but it's unusual and fun to have around.
Until the permanent bases are done in Qatar and Iraq their will be no bombing of Iran,the Russians are still selling nukes stuff to Iran a long with china, until their contacts are done,which we have promised not to bomb the tell they milk as much money out of them as they can ! then we have a 3 day planed bombing of the plants and infrastructure,but their will be invasion per-say.remember this 65 percent of the population in under 30 yrs of age,and the Jews will not be allowed the to do the dirty work this time for one, we just gave them 30 billion in military stuff to keep the hand off Iran just another deal,and is what u have not been told is that their is a covert operation to under mind the economy before we level the bases and let their people deal with the clerics? one more thing whether Islam likes it or not their going to be forced into the 21 century.
To WHOM much is givin much is expected !!!
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.