Originally posted by Noan "heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".
... and this is me leaving this dicussion.
It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.
1: Fixed it for you
2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?
1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.
2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?
edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.
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Originally posted by Noan "heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".
... and this is me leaving this dicussion.
It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.
1: Fixed it for you
2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?
1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.
2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?
edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.
If you want to have fair judgement of the entire korean market then yes, I suggest trying them all. Basing your opinion of hundreds of games when you played (possibly) less than 1% of them is a bit silly.
About success well if you're talking about quality then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if based on profit and success, then that is just plain wrong. The korean MMO market is much larger and advanced than the western MMO market. MMORPG's are the most important genre in korea, sort of like what First Person Shooters are in the west. There are several korean MMO's that made it past 1 million subscribers. There has only been 1 western MMORPG that ever made it past 1 million subscribers (WoW ofcourse)
Originally posted by Noan "heck, we must be doing something right" - I hope koreans think something like that sometimes rather then "farm? farm? farm, farm, farm!, farm!".
... and this is me leaving this dicussion.
It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.
1: Fixed it for you
2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?
1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.
2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?
edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.
If you want to have fair judgement of the entire korean market then yes, I suggest trying them all. Basing your opinion of hundreds of games when you played (possibly) less than 1% of them is a bit silly.
About success well if you're talking about quality then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if based on profit and success, then that is just plain wrong. The korean MMO market is much larger and advanced than the western MMO market. MMORPG's are the most important genre in korea, sort of like what First Person Shooters are in the west. There are several korean MMO's that made it past 1 million subscribers. There has only been 1 western MMORPG that ever made it past 1 million subscribers (WoW ofcourse)
Good post!
Now I know one thing for sure, my brain works in different way then korean's, if they have MMOs that look close to RF, ArchLord and others.
Also I can't try to play other korean MMOs because they block IPs. Was unable to play RF, they blocked my IP by saing I'm not in korea or something untill I solved it. The thing is I judge by games I'm allowed to play.
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I haven't voted on Aion but if I did it would be zero. All I've seen are some videos of people running around. I have friends who do computer animation and texturing work that can make videos that good, so seeing good videos for a game means zilch to me. I need to see something about, y'know, actual gameplay before there's any reason for me to hype a game. I think a lot of people feel similarly. The game isn't even in beta yet...there's no reason to be hyped about it.
I would vote 0 for Aion also. Dremac, can't the same be said about Darkfall? I mean seriously, two games way up there in rank with no one from either game in beta... LOL go figure! I believe they should remove hype level on these games until the games are in beta.
Omg I did the same, i.e. didn't hype at all. Should see beta to get my desire of hyping it. All of those videos just for show, same was in RF online, videos were just great, amasing, e.t.c in the end the game is a big fail.
No hype till beta.
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But if you wait untill you played the Beta..doesn't that kinda defeats the whole point of Hype..?
For me it's the same as if developers say: "We are going to develop game named Something of something: something. We are not sure what we will put in it, not sure about pvp, pve, but got a few classes in concept (like warrior, priest, caster) and got an engine for game."
Will you hype it? Me - not. I'm not going to hype this thing. Same goes to Aion, those videos gives me zero info, not an actual gameplay. Also web info gives me nothing too. Can't really tell you what it will be like. That's why no hype.
Imo should wait for beta or few detailed movies of gameplay.
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But if you wait untill you played the Beta..doesn't that kinda defeats the whole point of Hype..?
For me it's the same as if developers say: "We are going to develop game named Something of something: something. We are not sure what we will put in it, not sure about pvp, pve, but got a few classes in concept (like warrior, priest, caster) and got an engine for game."
Will you hype it? Me - not. I'm not going to hype this thing. Same goes to Aion, those videos gives me zero info, not an actual gameplay. Also web info gives me nothing too. Can't really tell you what it will be like. That's why no hype.
Imo should wait for beta or few detailed movies of gameplay.
People can wait and vote whenever they want IMO, as long as they don't run about giving out random 0's!
Aion looks like it's going to be incredibly awesome, but I've been disappointed before, so I don't get too hyped up this early. I hope it'll be P2P also, because that's the sign of a real MMO -- F2P is just short for 'low quality crap'.
Aion Fainboys say it will break the mold and be an earthshaking MMO.
Everyone else is skeptical, seeing as NCSoft, which by the way has terrible tech support, hosts a number of games which , to say the least are of , "inferior quality" (AA, Dungeon Runners, RF Online).
PvPvE is nothing new, although it could be improved upon. WoW Battle grounds are an example of this.
To be honest, I think everyone should hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. It might be a great game, not a WoW killer, but still good. However, given the publishers and the country of origin(I'm Japanese so all you assholes ready to pull the anti Asian card can kindly shut up) we <i>should</i> expect this game to be like Rappelz, FF(Fly for Fun, seriously people don't know proper English anymore), Rose Online, or RF Online. It's probably going to copy the model that works so well in Asia.
I live with a game developer(Meridian 59, UO, UO2, Ryzom) and he explained to me how the Asian market is different. It's more competitive, "haha I got a higher score than you!" as he explained it. So for NCsofts sake, I hope the game does well, Fanboys, stop hyping this game, we know what it will <i> probably</I> be, so stop denying it.
To the people who diss this game on the forums: You're right, it will probably be the same as all the other grindfest MMO's, but there's a chance, that you have to admit to, that it will be good.
OT, Fanboys, seriously, be honest with yourselves, because you're probably going to be let down, unless you enjoy the grind type of game, also WoW is a great MMO, no denying that, but it's the fact that it does everything so well, but not perfect, is why many people hate it.
Again Jesuriah, thats like saying we should expect Age of Conan to be like Everquest just because its from the west.
If I would go to the Age of Conan and say that the game will be like Everquest, I would be in for a ton of flames. Why? because anybody can look up info and see that its nothing like Everquest at all.
Its the same thing with Aion. You can easily look up info and see that its not like Rappelz, RF Online.
For one, the philosophy is to make a casual game that appeals to western gamers. In fact, the developers have already confirmed that number grinding is something that they want to avoid as much as possible
This already complete outrules anything like Rappelz and RF Online. Why? Because those gamers are clearly aimed for an asian hardcore audience.
Another simple example. Back in the days, NCsoft set the standard for korean MMO's. Games like Rappelz and RF Online are based on this model, because of Lineage 2's enormous success. Aside from that, Lineage 2 is still running and Lineage 3 is starting development in January. Are you honnestly this clueless to think that NCsoft would develop an MMO to compete with its own games!?
We can see other things in gameplay videos. For example, the movement is based on WASD, Not the korean traditional P&C. Combat is slower and is more in lines of a game like World of Warcraft, not as fast paced as the traditional korean MMORPG, crafting is going to play a big role in Aion, as opposed to the traditional "side game" (or completely absent) in traditional korean MMO, its going to include things like playerhousing, again, something that won't attract korean players at all. Its completely clear that NCsoft is paying a lot of attention to what the western audience wants.
I'm starting to get tired of people who put very little effort into doing research of the game and just completely rate it because of the fact its build by a korean company.
a game is FINALLY trying to appeal to a western audience, and now people like Jesuriah are telling people who are looking forward to the game to stop hyping the game because Jesuriah likes to stereotype games. thats just the world upside down.
There is no excuse to stereotype games.
on a sidenote, Ncsoft did NOT publish RF online. RF online is developed by CCR and published by Codemasters.
1- if this game will be crap, no one will play it.
2- if this game will be good, a lot of ppl will play it.
Obvious.
Should wait till beta/release, pointless to discuss it right now.
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[...] it will probably be the same as all the other grindfest MMO's, but there's a chance, that you have to admit to, that it will be good.
I think you're wrong there. This is the first time an MMO of Asian origin has claimed specifically not to be a grinder. Devs stated so in english interviews in leipzig GC.
I would say - There is a chance that the game turns into a grindfest MMO's, but there's also a chance that it will be good. The odds are the same as for AoC and WAR.
OT, japanese guy, I couldn't care less where you're from. Seriously, stop generalizing.
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong and it's a good game.
Sorry about the slip up with NCsoft and CodeMasters.
They say they want the game to be unique, which is what every MMO developer says.
You comment comparing AoC to Everquest is well, apples to oranges, not apples to apples. EQ set the grinding standard, and AoC tries to get you competitive as soon as possible.
Many Asian MMOs also have WASD movement. Guild Wars, Fly for Fun, Rose, Rappelz all have WASD movement.
It's just my opinion that this company will follow the model of what works in its' home audience. I hope this game is good, I need a new game to play. I, however, given the company's track record, will hold out for a while before getting my hopes up.
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong and it's a good game.
Sorry about the slip up with NCsoft and CodeMasters.
They say they want the game to be unique, which is what every MMO developer says.
You comment comparing AoC to Everquest is well, apples to oranges, not apples to apples. EQ set the grinding standard, and AoC tries to get you competitive as soon as possible.
Many Asian MMOs also have WASD movement. Guild Wars, Fly for Fun, Rose, Rappelz all have WASD movement.
It's just my opinion that this company will follow the model of what works in its' home audience. I hope this game is good, I need a new game to play. I, however, given the company's track record, will hold out for a while before getting my hopes up.
AoC to Everquest is indeed Apples to oranges, just like comparing the games you mentioned to Aion is like comparing apples to oranges, they are different games.
There are Asian MMO's that have WASD movement such as Flyff, ROSE and Rappelz, however those games were build on a point & Click scheme from the very beginning, with WASD thrown in later. WASD is clunky in those games, because the engine is made for P&C. Aion, however, is build on WASD from the get go because it targets a western audience.
And to correct you once more Guild Wars is a western game, not an Asian game, nor is it an MMO. Its developed by Arena Net.
That may be your opinion, but the simple fact of the matter is that the developers have stated multiple times that Aion will be build with a western audience in mind.
As for the Guild Wars is/isn't an MMO, well, it's listed on this page as an MMORPG, and it's listed in Wikipedia as an MMORPG, and when it was released, it was advertised as an MMORPG. IF it walks, quacks, and smells like a duck, it's probably?
That's true that all the previous games listed were coded primarily as point and click, with WASD thrown in later.
Actually Arena Net is a subsidiary of NCsoft. As for the Guild Wars is/isn't an MMO, well, it's listed on this page as an MMORPG, and it's listed in Wikipedia as an MMORPG, and when it was released, it was advertised as an MMORPG. IF it walks, quacks, and smells like a duck, it's probably?
That's true that all the previous games listed were coded primarily as point and click, with WASD thrown in later.
Otherwise I think we're in agreeance.
Arena Net may be a subsidiary of NCsoft, its still a western company with many developers from Blizzard North.
Listen on this page as an MMO says absolutely nothing. Games like Gunz and Rakion are also listed here, wikipedia is user content created. either way, both mmorpg.com and Wikipedia are wrong.
Seriously, if you come to discuss the game, why not discuss it with some unbiased feelings? This includes both 'Aion owns all' and 'Aion sucks' type comments, look at what's there, and discuss the features, what you think works well, etc.
I'm pretty excited about this game. It looks different (some may call it strange) and refreshing. I'm very curious to see the gameplay.
Isn't there another game like this one out there? I think I remember seeing a game that had a similar screenshot as the person with the wings. I can't remember the name and have looked around, but maybe I'm losing it!!
I'm pretty excited about this game. It looks different (some may call it strange) and refreshing. I'm very curious to see the gameplay. Isn't there another game like this one out there? I think I remember seeing a game that had a similar screenshot as the person with the wings. I can't remember the name and have looked around, but maybe I'm losing it!! Anyway, it's nice to see something different.
the graphics of Perfect World are more comparable with those of Lineage 2, though I guess the wings PW has sort of makes it remind of Aion. The animations are very poor though, hope Aion does that better (I played PW, yes).
You guys realize that most of us don't care enough to bother rating any game's hype meter, much less willing to take the time to give Aion a low hype rating.... but then again..that tells you something as well doesn't it....
I like that post especially the "take the time to give Aion a low hype meter". Im assuming he is talking about himself. The same guy in a little more than a year has posted 2700 times on these forums. Thats a average of 8 posts a day. Im sure you can find sometime in your busy little schedule loser.
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It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.
1: Fixed it for you2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?
1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.
2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?
edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
... and this is me leaving this dicussion.
It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.
1: Fixed it for you2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?
1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.
2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?
edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.
If you want to have fair judgement of the entire korean market then yes, I suggest trying them all. Basing your opinion of hundreds of games when you played (possibly) less than 1% of them is a bit silly.About success well if you're talking about quality then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if based on profit and success, then that is just plain wrong. The korean MMO market is much larger and advanced than the western MMO market. MMORPG's are the most important genre in korea, sort of like what First Person Shooters are in the west. There are several korean MMO's that made it past 1 million subscribers. There has only been 1 western MMORPG that ever made it past 1 million subscribers (WoW ofcourse)
... and this is me leaving this dicussion.
It's very, very hard to believe that koreans can make a game I like. RF Online had my hopes to be a good one and then failed, ArchLord did the same, LA2 too, then Cabal. They failed too many times.
1: Fixed it for you2: There are over 100 (possibly 200) Korean MMO's. You're judging all of them based on those few games...?
1: Thanks. Always thought I was saying for myself.
2: You suggest me to try all of 100 or possibly 200 korean MMOs & learn Korean language?
edit: Caladon: Sure, western guys failed a lot too but they had some success. Imo Koreans didn't have any success at all.
If you want to have fair judgement of the entire korean market then yes, I suggest trying them all. Basing your opinion of hundreds of games when you played (possibly) less than 1% of them is a bit silly.About success well if you're talking about quality then that is your opinion and you're entitled to it, but if based on profit and success, then that is just plain wrong. The korean MMO market is much larger and advanced than the western MMO market. MMORPG's are the most important genre in korea, sort of like what First Person Shooters are in the west. There are several korean MMO's that made it past 1 million subscribers. There has only been 1 western MMORPG that ever made it past 1 million subscribers (WoW ofcourse)
Good post!
Now I know one thing for sure, my brain works in different way then korean's, if they have MMOs that look close to RF, ArchLord and others.
Also I can't try to play other korean MMOs because they block IPs. Was unable to play RF, they blocked my IP by saing I'm not in korea or something untill I solved it. The thing is I judge by games I'm allowed to play.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
Some of those videos remind me of final fantasy.
I would vote 0 for Aion also. Dremac, can't the same be said about Darkfall? I mean seriously, two games way up there in rank with no one from either game in beta... LOL go figure! I believe they should remove hype level on these games until the games are in beta.
Omg I did the same, i.e. didn't hype at all. Should see beta to get my desire of hyping it. All of those videos just for show, same was in RF online, videos were just great, amasing, e.t.c in the end the game is a big fail.
No hype till beta.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
But if you wait untill you played the Beta..doesn't that kinda defeats the whole point of Hype..?
Will you hype it? Me - not. I'm not going to hype this thing. Same goes to Aion, those videos gives me zero info, not an actual gameplay. Also web info gives me nothing too. Can't really tell you what it will be like. That's why no hype.
Imo should wait for beta or few detailed movies of gameplay.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
Will you hype it? Me - not. I'm not going to hype this thing. Same goes to Aion, those videos gives me zero info, not an actual gameplay. Also web info gives me nothing too. Can't really tell you what it will be like. That's why no hype.
Imo should wait for beta or few detailed movies of gameplay.
People can wait and vote whenever they want IMO, as long as they don't run about giving out random 0's!
Aion looks like it's going to be incredibly awesome, but I've been disappointed before, so I don't get too hyped up this early. I hope it'll be P2P also, because that's the sign of a real MMO -- F2P is just short for 'low quality crap'.
So basically, to sum up this thread:
Aion Fainboys say it will break the mold and be an earthshaking MMO.
Everyone else is skeptical, seeing as NCSoft, which by the way has terrible tech support, hosts a number of games which , to say the least are of , "inferior quality" (AA, Dungeon Runners, RF Online).
PvPvE is nothing new, although it could be improved upon. WoW Battle grounds are an example of this.
To be honest, I think everyone should hope for the best, and prepare for the worst. It might be a great game, not a WoW killer, but still good. However, given the publishers and the country of origin(I'm Japanese so all you assholes ready to pull the anti Asian card can kindly shut up) we <i>should</i> expect this game to be like Rappelz, FF(Fly for Fun, seriously people don't know proper English anymore), Rose Online, or RF Online. It's probably going to copy the model that works so well in Asia.
I live with a game developer(Meridian 59, UO, UO2, Ryzom) and he explained to me how the Asian market is different. It's more competitive, "haha I got a higher score than you!" as he explained it. So for NCsofts sake, I hope the game does well, Fanboys, stop hyping this game, we know what it will <i> probably</I> be, so stop denying it.
To the people who diss this game on the forums: You're right, it will probably be the same as all the other grindfest MMO's, but there's a chance, that you have to admit to, that it will be good.
OT, Fanboys, seriously, be honest with yourselves, because you're probably going to be let down, unless you enjoy the grind type of game, also WoW is a great MMO, no denying that, but it's the fact that it does everything so well, but not perfect, is why many people hate it.
Again Jesuriah, thats like saying we should expect Age of Conan to be like Everquest just because its from the west.
If I would go to the Age of Conan and say that the game will be like Everquest, I would be in for a ton of flames. Why? because anybody can look up info and see that its nothing like Everquest at all.
Its the same thing with Aion. You can easily look up info and see that its not like Rappelz, RF Online.
For one, the philosophy is to make a casual game that appeals to western gamers. In fact, the developers have already confirmed that number grinding is something that they want to avoid as much as possible
This already complete outrules anything like Rappelz and RF Online. Why? Because those gamers are clearly aimed for an asian hardcore audience.
Another simple example. Back in the days, NCsoft set the standard for korean MMO's. Games like Rappelz and RF Online are based on this model, because of Lineage 2's enormous success. Aside from that, Lineage 2 is still running and Lineage 3 is starting development in January. Are you honnestly this clueless to think that NCsoft would develop an MMO to compete with its own games!?
We can see other things in gameplay videos. For example, the movement is based on WASD, Not the korean traditional P&C. Combat is slower and is more in lines of a game like World of Warcraft, not as fast paced as the traditional korean MMORPG, crafting is going to play a big role in Aion, as opposed to the traditional "side game" (or completely absent) in traditional korean MMO, its going to include things like playerhousing, again, something that won't attract korean players at all. Its completely clear that NCsoft is paying a lot of attention to what the western audience wants.
I'm starting to get tired of people who put very little effort into doing research of the game and just completely rate it because of the fact its build by a korean company.
a game is FINALLY trying to appeal to a western audience, and now people like Jesuriah are telling people who are looking forward to the game to stop hyping the game because Jesuriah likes to stereotype games. thats just the world upside down.
There is no excuse to stereotype games.
on a sidenote, Ncsoft did NOT publish RF online. RF online is developed by CCR and published by Codemasters.
Just stop wasting your time.
Two things are clear for me:
1- if this game will be crap, no one will play it.
2- if this game will be good, a lot of ppl will play it.
Obvious.
Should wait till beta/release, pointless to discuss it right now.
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You Are Not Tifa, Cloud, Aeris, Barret, Red XIII, Vincent, Yuffie, Cait Sith, Sephiroth or even Cid.
Not Any Other FF Character.
I would say - There is a chance that the game turns into a grindfest MMO's, but there's also a chance that it will be good. The odds are the same as for AoC and WAR.
OT, japanese guy, I couldn't care less where you're from. Seriously, stop generalizing.
Like I said, I hope I'm wrong and it's a good game.
Sorry about the slip up with NCsoft and CodeMasters.
They say they want the game to be unique, which is what every MMO developer says.
You comment comparing AoC to Everquest is well, apples to oranges, not apples to apples. EQ set the grinding standard, and AoC tries to get you competitive as soon as possible.
Many Asian MMOs also have WASD movement. Guild Wars, Fly for Fun, Rose, Rappelz all have WASD movement.
It's just my opinion that this company will follow the model of what works in its' home audience. I hope this game is good, I need a new game to play. I, however, given the company's track record, will hold out for a while before getting my hopes up.
There are Asian MMO's that have WASD movement such as Flyff, ROSE and Rappelz, however those games were build on a point & Click scheme from the very beginning, with WASD thrown in later. WASD is clunky in those games, because the engine is made for P&C. Aion, however, is build on WASD from the get go because it targets a western audience.
And to correct you once more Guild Wars is a western game, not an Asian game, nor is it an MMO. Its developed by Arena Net.
That may be your opinion, but the simple fact of the matter is that the developers have stated multiple times that Aion will be build with a western audience in mind.
Actually Arena Net is a subsidiary of NCsoft.
As for the Guild Wars is/isn't an MMO, well, it's listed on this page as an MMORPG, and it's listed in Wikipedia as an MMORPG, and when it was released, it was advertised as an MMORPG. IF it walks, quacks, and smells like a duck, it's probably?
That's true that all the previous games listed were coded primarily as point and click, with WASD thrown in later.
Otherwise I think we're in agreeance.
Arena Net may be a subsidiary of NCsoft, its still a western company with many developers from Blizzard North.
Listen on this page as an MMO says absolutely nothing. Games like Gunz and Rakion are also listed here, wikipedia is user content created. either way, both mmorpg.com and Wikipedia are wrong.
www.mmorpgworld.net/guild-wars.html
""Guild Wars is not an MMORPG," said Jeff Strain, producer of the game.
one would assume that the producer knows what kind of game he is producing, no?
You can look it up at IGN, in which it is said multiple times that GW is not an mmorpg.
Its also never been advertised as an MMORPG. its been advertised as a corpg and an online game with no monthly fees.
This game looks to be awesome, so shh.
Seriously, if you come to discuss the game, why not discuss it with some unbiased feelings? This includes both 'Aion owns all' and 'Aion sucks' type comments, look at what's there, and discuss the features, what you think works well, etc.
Don't hype up the game for the wrong reasons.
~ Shade / Regeneration
Leader of Chosen Existence
http://chosenexistence.com/forum/
Aion seems awsome ^^ and I will without questions give it a real try
I hype it 8 btw. Hope NCsoft keep up the good work
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I'm pretty excited about this game. It looks different (some may call it strange) and refreshing. I'm very curious to see the gameplay.
Isn't there another game like this one out there? I think I remember seeing a game that had a similar screenshot as the person with the wings. I can't remember the name and have looked around, but maybe I'm losing it!!
Anyway, it's nice to see something different.
www.youtube.com/watch
the graphics of Perfect World are more comparable with those of Lineage 2, though
I guess the wings PW has sort of makes it remind of Aion. The animations are very poor though, hope Aion does that better (I played PW, yes).
Thanks for All the posts, I deem this Discussion Closed,
feel free to post your secondary ideas though.,.
thanks!
I'll rate it high once I can, but for now I need forum posts :-/
I like that post especially the "take the time to give Aion a low hype meter". Im assuming he is talking about himself. The same guy in a little more than a year has posted 2700 times on these forums. Thats a average of 8 posts a day. Im sure you can find sometime in your busy little schedule loser.