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More real mmorpg's for Macintosh!
Drumwiz
Member Posts: 217
I really think that dev's really need to start making some high budget mmorpgs that are playable on Apple computers, I see more and more people on mac's everyday(especially college students). The mac is making a huge comeback and might even catch up to windows pc's in years. One reason Blizzard is so succesful is that they made WoW playable on Mac's-opens a whole new door and a whole lot more sub's. Seeing that WoW box in Apple Stores helps a lot-those stores are usually crowded out the door everyday! Not to mention, while running a game on mac means no spyware no viruses running in the background like most windows pc's have whether you know it or not. I don't play WoW so there really are no mmorpgs for me on my mac 
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You act like Apples are immune to viruses/spyware. Not everyone that uses a PC has a virus you know. It's pretty easy not to get a virus, it's called common sense.
Anyway, Apples aren't really focused as gaming machines. Macs are usually a LOT more expensive, and compared to a gaming rig that's a PC, it's a rip off(for what you get). From what I know, Macs are mainly good for photo editing/video editing.
Besides, if you really want to play MMORPGs on your mac, why don't you just run Windows on it? And if you really want to play MMORPGs, why did you buy a Mac in the first place?
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the main reason to get mac is so you can be differnt. you got what you wanted.
IMO macs are the DRM of hardware and OS. instead of OS like microsoft. I'll take the lesser of the two annoyances thank you anyways.
I find it amazing that by 2020 first world countries will be competing to get immigrants.
Exactly. I find it hilarious that all these die hard Mac users that did nothing but act superior and dis Windows/Microsoft all these years are now buying Macs and the first thing they do is install.........Windows!! If you were really so superior to Windows users you'd tough it out and not install Windows and play Mac Solitaire for the rest of your gaming lives. Oh and I guess you could play Blizzard games too, What more do you need?
Bren
P.S. I do NOT think that the Mac is a bad computer, in fact I think it is very good at what it's designed to do. I just had to listen to all the Mac Better-than-thou-art crap for years and find this current trend humorous to say the least.
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Most people who don't have viruses/spyware on their windows PC have to use a whole program which is usually a system hog that runs in the background.
I'm not a PC hater-I have both, I use a windows pc desktop but use an Apple for a laptop.
"It's pretty easy not to get a virus, it's called common sense." -Hah that's exactly what I thought until the day some spyware came and nipped me right in my a@@. There will be one day when you slip up just wait.
Windows PC without any firewalls/antivirus/antispyware on nowadays is like a Quarterback with no linemen.
Mac without any other programs is like a QB with a full line out of the box. And if you want more linemen you can get em to be extra secure.
I never said they were, I said you act like they are. There are plenty of anti-virus programs out there that use little resources now a days btw.
And of course PC users are more prone to viruses/spyware; compared to Mac and PC users, there are a LOT more PC users. Why would they target a much smaller group?
Anyway, if you want to miss out PC gaming just because you're afraid of viruses/spyware(that seems to be your only gripe about PCs), then that's your loss. I'll have fun playing my games on my PC
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Well this is only true to a point. Macs are more secure only by a simple numbers game and not because of anything special done by Apple to make them more secure. Apples get less Viruses only because there are less viruses written for them. You have to look at it from a Hacker's point of view. If your gonna write a Virus or piece of Mal-ware do you write it for 92% of all computers or for 3-4%? Your gonna write it for the majority of course. Apples get less viruses for the simple reason that there are less viruses to get not that they are more secure. Here are a few tidbits for you to ponder.....
A guy who hacked into a Mac OS X and gained full control in less than 60 seconds.
Another who hacked OS X in less than 30 minutes using as he put it, "I decided to use some unpublished exploits -- of which there are a lot for Mac OS X".
An article on About.com about Mac Viruses.
And last but not least a whole non-profit site dedicated to Mac Viruses.
Macs are certainly not immune to Hacking or Viruses and if you run ANY computer without at the very least virus protection you might as well paint a big target on your Computer case.
Bren
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i think they should make more games exclusively for 64bit linux
OMG I have viruses and spyware on my computer because i use windows...shit...better get that fixed. Oh wait, i've been running a year without having any viruses or spyware...funny how that happened. Do I have protection? yes, I have a spyware sweeper (never finds anything and its the top of its class) and AVG antivirus, does that find anything? typically no, unless its a false positive. Arm yourself with knowledge before you come in here and start saying that computers are infested pieces of crap.
But anyway, yes macs are catching on, no they are not immune as much as you fanboys want us to think, everything can be exploited. Why are there fewer viruses and spyware on macs? because not as many people use it, it's simple logic. Hackers want to screw over the mass populous, not the 1% of people (made that up dont jump my ass and say "OMG APPLE HAS X% OF THE MARKET THANK YOU!). Also, PC is easier for people new to computers (older generation) to use, as more places will be able to help them (Geek Squad, Firedog, etc.) And those people usually forget to protect themselves, its fairly simple, and I agree with the other poster, all it takes is a bit of common sense to avoid getting infected.
Rant over.
Boot Camp. Easy.
XP for gaming. OSX for everything else.
Ive had my comp for 2 years. Never had a virus/spyware. If you geta virus your a moron. Thats what you get for goin to sites you dont know.
damn people take stuff too dam seriously.
"The mac is making a huge comeback and might even catch up to windows pc's in years."
LMAO! Yeah... Oh shit
Only way Mac will be something more then... what ever it is now, Apple will need to drop prices down for like 50%.
"One reason Blizzard is so succesful is that they made WoW playable on Mac's..."
Oh boy
"Not to mention, while running a game on mac means no spyware no viruses running in the background like most windows pc's have whether you know it or not."
You are an absolute idiot. But at least you're a cool and different idiot - You have Mac!
I mean come on. What's the fucking point of this useless thread. Why you whining here? Go make some charts, graphs and presentations and go from door to door to every MMO dev team and publisher.
I have fond memories of playing with a Macintosh at school when I was younger, I remember it being really easy to use and that. One day going to have to get a cheap one.
To the OP. It definitely would be nice for more MMO developers to start including Macs. But, as the market currently stands, MMO gamers are better off using a Windows machine. If you have an intel Mac, just install boot camp and boot into Windows when you want to MMO. I know, it kinda sucks, but it is what it is.
I have 2 Macs, 1 PC, and 2 Linux boxes I use at home. The PC is my gamer machine. When I dont feel like sitting at the PC, I boot into Windows on my Mac and play away.
"...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"
... or the devs could write smart and let Transgaming port their games with their WINE based technology. Like the EVE Online guys are doing.
If you enjoy gaming then buy a PC..........Apple is reaping what it has sown with it's proprietary eliteist attitude....I have worked for a more than one game development company that did business with Apple and if you had any idea how they treat developers then you would know exactly why there are no decent games for Macs. Apple doesn't care about gamers they care about jacking up the price for exactly the same hardware with a little Apple logo on it. Apple abandoned gamers a long time ago so they can go get ********* for all I care.
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damn people take stuff too dam seriously.
Aww man, I'm sorry but I had to point this out. Not everything has to be a racial slur. Did you know "hackers" is an actual word?! Oh my gosh, no way! Hackers do want to go after the mass of the population and attack them. As someone stated earlier, why would hackers go after the minority? The majority is right in front of you.
damn people take stuff too dam seriously.
Aww man, I'm sorry but I had to point this out. Not everything has to be a racial slur. Did you know "hackers" is an actual word?! Oh my gosh, no way! Hackers do want to go after the mass of the population and attack them. As someone stated earlier, why would hackers go after the minority? The majority is right in front of you.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even know what he was referring to when he said Crackers? A racial slur? My goodness, your ignorance is outstanding.
damn people take stuff too dam seriously.
Aww man, I'm sorry but I had to point this out. Not everything has to be a racial slur. Did you know "hackers" is an actual word?! Oh my gosh, no way! Hackers do want to go after the mass of the population and attack them. As someone stated earlier, why would hackers go after the minority? The majority is right in front of you.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even know what he was referring to when he said Crackers? A racial slur? My goodness, your ignorance is outstanding.
Isn't it? My point was to not sound literal but to make a joke of it.
Dear Friend,
As a former mac enthusiest I emphasize. I went years drooling over what I thought PC'ers had over me--more great games to choose from until I took the plunge and bought a pc. I enjoyed the more stable system with win2000 first of all. OSX had just come out and it was garbage. I found out about 20 game demos later though that I wasn't missing much as far as gaming. Basically there is a crap load of trashware out there in pc gaming. At the time I was playing UT and Diablo 2, both on the mac at the time. I found that most games I stuck with were either simultaneously released for mac or released later for mac. I'm still on a pc and the two games I play, WoW and 2142... guess what, on a mac also. So unless you're really young or just easy to please you aren't missing much being on a mac. The best games get to you. You just may have to wait longer sometimes. At least you have a better system now then we do. XP is ok but doesn't have the functionality of OSX. Vista made an attempt at functionality but OMG... it will be years before it's as stable as OSX if it ever will be. Other downfall is you guys pay a lot for your hardware. I'd still rather have a cheap muscle car then an expensive finely-tuned sports car. I also like wading through all the trashware... something to do.
I use a Mac for RL stuff and a PC for gaming, so I have no particular allegiance to either side. But I'd think that devs are only shooting themselves in the foot not designing more games for both Mac and PC. I think if Eve subscription rates jump a bit once it makes the crossover to Mac, it'll be a clear signal to game companies that there are Mac users who will game on their comps if the options are made available to them. I think there's arguments to be made from both sides and I wish there were some concrete statistics to back them up.
SOE stopped making EQ expansions for Mac after Planes of Power. Was this because their Mac servers weren't drumming up enough revenue or just because they saw a dip in EQ subs in general by 2004 with the coming of WoW? Does anyone know? Speaking of the 800 lb. gorilla, I can't help but think that Blizzard's huge subscription rates are bolstered by the fact that it is playable on both Macs and PCs. In fact, I only switched to WoW when one of my RL gaming friends switched to a Mac and WoW was one of the few titles we could still play together.
But rest assured, when WAR and AoC are closer to release, I'll be investing in a new gaming PC, not installing Bootcamp on my Mac. If I had the option of choosing which system to play games on, things might be different though.
Is there any point? macs are basically the same as normal pcs, except they are over priced for what they are. Ive used both extensively, macs are a waste of money, all of the useful programs on them like quark express for instance you can get on windows and it does exactly the same thing.
I originally used them on a graphic design course, i believe they are like the ipod tbh, trendy thats it nothing special about them they are just a "look at me" hardware.
Apparently Blizzard made barely any profit from making wow work on macs they did it purely so their fans who use macs can play it, not to make more money theres a few reports you can google that show this. It was just a jest or whatever on Blizzards part to show they think about all their fans.
edit: Im sure there will be other successful gaming companies that will do this in the future for the same reasons, but its been proven its not a viable market due to how few mac users their are. Btw macs aren't immune to viruses just like firefox isn't virus proof, its just so few people use them that its seen as pointless to target them, of course it still happens just rarely.
Its tough to make games exclusivly for Mac. Mac has a devoted fan base, but for companies its simple numbers PC>>Mac in sales. Unfortunate but true
Torrential
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
Apple doing a huge comeback, even catching with windows? You gotta be kidding. There's not way in which apple can catch up with windows if they keep their all well known selfish attitude. You can't install Mac on a PC, well you can today using a third party software, but is ilegal from apple's point of view. They lost the domain sufix .NET for being greedy and if today any company release something like the Iphone allowing all gsm phone companies to use it, they will lose all the market, The same that happened with windows vs mac.
Apple sux for gaming too. I used to have mac pc, bought directly from an apple retailer and it sucks badly. I'll never desing a progam for that OS is not worthy, they will never reach a big market if they keep their greedy policies. I'm using ubuntu, but I'm growing tired of upgrading the system that much, but ubuntu is really kick ass.
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