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Video Card Replacement?
Zhanghia
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Before I begin, let me just say I know AGP is being phased out in favor of PCI-e, I built this computer a year ago and regrettably I built the system around my RAM to save costs; Bad idea. Anyway, it's a lesson learned and I don't plan to upgrade my system since getting a PCI-e slot would require totally new RAM, CPU, (more than likely) case, and mother board.
So, with that out of the way I RMA'd a x1650PRO and it's been at Newegg's place since August 30th. They've identified the problem, more than likely, as it belongs in the accounting. All the while since then my eye has been on the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241041 ; Well, just lately they stopped carrying the item so I'm clueless what else I should get. They've promised me a $15 credit but still.. when the product was $160 as well as $30 rebate which would make it $130 for a great piece of hardware, it's hard to overlook that. If anyone has any suggestions for a worthwhile AGP card, I'd sure appreciate it.
The only alternative I can think of is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102071 but it doesn't look to have very good reviews so, I'm not sure. Any help is appreciate, thanks guys.
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Just so you know Nvida are the current market leader in both market share and technology.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Nvidia is only the market leader on the high-end cards. The mid-range cards, ATI has it with the HD2600. The same with the low-budget cards.
In AGP cards. ATI also has the best. The X1950. Nvidia switched to nothing but PCI-e after the 7xxx series. I think your best bet is the X1950. Its price should be around the same as the x1650 after the price drop. You can also get the HD2600 at around the same price. It should perform better then the X1650.
Yea but it sounds like he wants a computer that will stay good for more than a yer or so so he will need to buy a top of the range graphics card for around £300 or so.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Maybe you should re-read his post. He specifically stated he wants an AGP card.
ahh
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
-- Jean Rostand
Aye, I do want an AGP card. Once I decide to upgrade, I'm just going to start totally new and go from there.
I already said in my post, I think, but would http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102071 be a good card to grab? There's been a fair bit of bad reviews so I'm hesitant.
agp is not being phase out.. it's gone.
i'd opt for..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150223
a tad pricey, but this looks like the best you'll ever see for an agp card.
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TheCore
I would recommend this one:
Sapphire X1950 512MB
I would for several reasons. The reviews are better. Sapphire cards usually are built well. Although thier heatsinks aren't cool. Also its specs nearly mirror the 7950 posted with the exception of the company features, and the pixel pipelines. The company features really don't matter since all the onces for nVidia are included in ATI Catalyst Control Center. However, this one has 8 fewer pixel pipelines but much more shader pipelines. In pc games today, the most predominant thing are complex shaders which makes shader processing very important.
Should I get a cooler? I don't oc any of my stuff, though.
7.9.18
The Radeon x1950pro is more or less the best low-end ($110-160) that still produces a pci slot x8agp. Not sure if the 512MB and the 256MB are also x8apg versions.
But like you mentioned you want to keep beating a dead horse , 100MHz fsb, pci ram, agp slot mobo (motherboard) and ide hard drives... this will be a decent system for chat rooms and email, but not for gaming.
Four generations past that, the x38 mobo are out. 1.3GHz fsb, ddr3 system memory, 45nm dual and quad-core cpu, PCIe2 ddr4 dual core gpu, 51GB hd dvd (edit: Toshiba,) and broadband gaming systems will make your mid 1990s system seem like a pocket calculator... is it still W95 or W98.2 OS ?
There comes a time one has to give-up fixing the antique, and goto a modern system. Use your older system for back-up storage and emergencies... if your new system goes bad, and you will still have access to the internet.
btw, down the line users are going to nanowires instead of flash memory. Tests showed extremely low power consumption for data encoding (0.7mW per bit.) They also indicated the data writing, erasing and retrieval (50 nanoseconds) to be 1,000 times faster than conventional Flash memory and indicated the device would not lose data even after approximately 100,000 years of use, all with the potential to realize terabit-level nonvolatile memory device density.
as long as you have decent airflow through your case you should be fine. also look at the specs on whatever card you decide and check the sticker on your power supply to make sure it will be able to handle it.
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TheCore
If all these changes are coming, why bother getting a new mobo? Intel is going to start bringing these mobo's out in another year or less. It would also make sense to spend less on the video card at this point. It's not like PC games specs are going to change enough to warrant anything overly powerful anyway. You can probably still make-do with a Socket A.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005216 comes with a rebate,vary trustable site with free shipping
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Go with the Sapphire 1950Pro, its basically the best punch for the buck. Also stay away from HIS, their customer support and website are not accessable to people in the US, quite literally. The first and last HIS card I bought was a 2900XT, it was corrupted beyond realism, video corruption in the goddamn BIOS, never seen anything so bad in my life from a card.
"There's no star system Slave I can't reach, and there's no planet I can't find. There's nowhere in the Galaxy for you to run. Might as well give up now."
Boba Fett
I had no idea HIS was that bad never used HIS stuff before,thanks for the heads up, but my buddy uses the 1950 pro APG and he likes it a lot,but its not HIS tho.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
Wouldn't http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681421041 be just as good but twenty bucks cheaper compared to the Sapphire? From what I've heard, 256 more mb won't do much for a graphics card since you'll only really benefit from it with a higher resolution. I apologize if it seems like I'm beating around the bush but $150-175 dollars ain't somethin' to scoff at.
The best AGP card at teh moment is the X1950 Pro, there is nothing better on the market.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102071