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Vista worth it yet?
cichy1012
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is Vista worth getting right now for gaming. All the issues been worked out. Interested in hearing from those using vista for gaming.
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Well my personal rule for new OS version releases is wait 3 after release for them to iron out the bugs. Not too many games support DirectX10 yet and most games played with Vista either 1.) suffer incompatibility problems 2.) has negligible increase in performance. I'd probably hold off upgrading to Vista until 2009.
If your a tech freak , yes you can tweak vista like the way you want, but you must not be a computer dummie then stick whit xp.
also might need some new hardware, but like i said if your a tweaker you sould know that...i can play every game made in human exsistence on vista... even duck hunt.
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
well.. DX10 is the only reason people would ever buy vista, but don't buy it yet, even if you want DX10 for the simple reason; the are not enough games out yet who use DX10. and only buy it if you have 2-4 gig ram, because vista has a memory leak somewhere...
*also looking forward to HD games
, hail to the ati 2000 series 
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You know it, the best way to realize your dreams is waking up and start moving, never lose hope and always keep up.
DX 10 is not the only reason people would buy Vista (vista is way more then just DX10), vista will be the oprating system for the years to come weather you buy it now or over 3 years...it does not make difrents price wont drop much anyhow. so just buy it at release and you can use it thill next os hits wich you be safe thill at least 2012 and you can take it whit you to every new computer...
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
Well my personal rule for new OS version releases is wait 3 after release for them to iron out the bugs. Not too many games support DirectX10 yet and most games played with Vista either 1.) suffer incompatibility problems 2.) has negligible increase in performance. I'd probably hold off upgrading to Vista until 2009.
I've suffered 1 and 2 with my vista pcA few of my games couldn't be installed, most importantly Diablo II
, and games that ran fine on the same pc before vista are now laggy and cause my cpu to hit crucial temps.
If you're planning to use the pc for gaming, def don't go Vista quite yet. I have vista on my laptop, which I only use for school, and I like it.
Currently Playing : WAR, UO, RL
Vista is not at all worth it, seriously. Ill migrate to Ubuntu or Gentoo-Linux when i think that my Current OS does not fulfill my need anymore, but vista will never enter my computer. I had the Rc on my Computer once, and i hated it. And no matter how many new features they build into it or how good the drivers get, i just cant live with the whole concept of it.
//edit:
Just one thing: UAC.
Sorry, this is an epic fail. The whole concept of a user gaining administrative privileges by simply clicking "ok" does in no way add to the security.
Look how the people who code ubuntu make a way for the normal users to install programs without danger to the whole system. I can set up a box for anyone that is literarily indestructible. No "oh, lets delete io.sys" here, because you will never have the rights to do it, yet you can install programs, use them. Its easy and safe to work with so few systemprivileges under any linux-distro. Why cant it be in Vista?
Vista failed in introdrucing a good usermanagement. Microsoft killed security in Vista to make it compatible to most malcoded windows-apps. (Its more secure than working with administrative privileges in WinXp though..)
Its really simple to achieve superior security with minimum effort.
One Account to work with. Hes a normal User, no privileges in other than is homefolder
One Adminaccount with root-privileges.
You work with the useraccount. If you want to install something, you have to start the program with admins credentials. It works that way in windows NT (runas), in *nix (sudo / su). In ubuntu you mostly even dont use su. You just install stuff into your homefolder by default, or system-wide via su. Plain, and simple.
I dont know what annoys me more: Malwritten programs that wont run with limited privileges, or an Os like vista even supporting those programs and causing much more trouble. Redirecting any access on writeprotected files to a temporary folder so those programs work is a lousy workaround that wont solve the problem.
No, no vista for me. If ms can release an OS that looks as good as Ubuntu does and can be used so easily like Mac/ubuntu (ubuntu/debians packetmanagement. i LOVE it!), then ill buy a copy of it.
Im waiting..
I'm gonna have to agree with the others here. Do not get Vista, especially not for gaming.
I work in a major computer hardware store who specialise in laptops and computer accessories. All of the laptops we sell are Vista. The simple reason being, 95% of our customers will not be using Vista for gaming or anything outside email/surfing/office. Most people dont even differentiate/care between different versions of Vista since they dont even know the difference!
So yes, for your work/school laptop get Vista. For your Gaming PC Desktop, hell no.
I disagree whit the rest, my games run great on vista...but im a great expert on how to tweak stuff.
If you not stick whit Xp since that so structured intro our everyday live.
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
DX 10 is not the only reason people would buy Vista (vista is way more then just DX10), vista will be the oprating system for the years to come weather you buy it now or over 3 years...it does not make difrents price wont drop much anyhow. so just buy it at release and you can use it thill next os hits wich you be safe thill at least 2012 and you can take it whit you to every new computer...
Vista, the OS for the year to come?Microsoft said they would release a new one in like 2009.
I won't get vista, I'll just wait a few more years.
DX 10 is not the only reason people would buy Vista (vista is way more then just DX10), vista will be the oprating system for the years to come weather you buy it now or over 3 years...it does not make difrents price wont drop much anyhow. so just buy it at release and you can use it thill next os hits wich you be safe thill at least 2012 and you can take it whit you to every new computer...
Vista, the OS for the year to come?Microsoft said they would release a new one in like 2009.
I won't get vista, I'll just wait a few more years.
Well were are your facts then?
Playing: World of Warcraft.
Played: Lord of the Rings Online, Starwars Galaxies.
Tried: Starwars the Old Republic, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, Vanguard, Age of Conan, Aion.
Don't buy vista yet unless your rig is almost exclusively for gaming and all of the games you want to play are brand new......there are appearently a ton of vista fanbois running around here commenting on my blog about how awesome Vista is.....trust me if you use your rig for resource intense applications other than brand new games just wait...
http://codmw3.me
...because you all want a UI using 30% of your systems ressources, right?
I have had Vista for a few months now and I must say, best OS ever. I got a whole new rig with a dual core and I got Vista Ultimate with it. The only issue with the OS is with my scanner, the scanner vendor isn’t making 64-bit drivers. Also the default security is set too high, turn that off and it is the same as XPs. I haven’t come across a game that doesn’t run in Vista, and if you have a game that is DX10 compatible it will knock your socks off. On another note, look into Games for Windows Live. It’s basically like having an Xbox 360, once it gets up and running.
I’d give Vista a big 10/10
I wouldnt mind trying it out.
Which version is good to buy? There are 3 correct. I dont want to buy the most expensive so is the premium a good one?
Heres what I will install it on
AMD x2 4800
ozc 3200 2 gig
EVGA 8800 GTS 640
AUDIGY ZS
ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE
DANGER DEN WATER COOLED
All this uproar about how Vista is not compaitable with XP-released games/MMOs is just a load of balonga. The only thing people have trouble with is setting administrator privlages to certian programs like gameguard, xtrap and other security programs as well as data patch clients and applications to run the game.
I run games perfectly on my Vista and i've had it for awhile. It's not that difficult to get used to, but it has some nice features and it will be forced in to the next generation of games if you want to keep up. You can't stay with XP forever.
DX 10 is not the only reason people would buy Vista (vista is way more then just DX10), vista will be the oprating system for the years to come weather you buy it now or over 3 years...it does not make difrents price wont drop much anyhow. so just buy it at release and you can use it thill next os hits wich you be safe thill at least 2012 and you can take it whit you to every new computer...
Vista, the OS for the year to come?Microsoft said they would release a new one in like 2009.
I won't get vista, I'll just wait a few more years.
Well were are your facts then?
I didn't know I had to provide facts, but ok.http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,128888-c,vistalonghorn/article.html
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/6588/7612/microsoft-vista-replaced-by-2009.phtml
Those are some articles talking about it.
People always say the same thing about the new Microsoft OS. No one wanted to switch to Windows 95, 98, 2000, XP. Eventually you end up having to do so if you want to play current games just like you eventually have to upgrade your computer parts. There is actually a main administrator account you can unlock in Vista Home Premium and perhaps in Basic as well that has full administrator privileges just like the XP administrator account. Most people will wait for the first Service Pack to come out and for the price to drop before being the new Microsoft OS. Personally I find it to be OK so far. If you are just browsing the web and using the computer for business then you can probably go on using 2000, XP, or whatever until they stop supporting it.
Ive been using vista on three computers for 6 months now,
my advice is to not custom build your computer (one of my custom ones keeps having constand issues, though the other one is fine), the Dell one i bought for 1300$ is performing better then the other two, with less problems and so on.
I would say to buy a brand computer, just keep an eye on the computer stats.
Besides Dell, hp, and so on probly throughly test their computers to make sure they work.
The latest benchmarks and articles done by sites such as tomshardware, pcworld, legion using the latest drivers from Nvidia and AMD/ATI now show the two OS's running the latest games at pretty much the same framerates on SINGLE card systems. Now thats only on single card setups. Systems running in SLI are still losing around 20% in performance compared to what they can bench out on with XP running. Keep in mind also that Vista still has ZERO support for those running in Crossfire on ATI so obviously ATI users would want to stick to XP.
Thats a huge difference to me and why I still wont toss Vista on my gaming machine. I'd like to enjoy the extra performance Vista offers dual core chips but it isn't worth the hit I'd take in games. For now Vista just stays on my Vostro. So yeah Vista can technically now run games at equal performance on non SLI systems but with all the other BS problems we currently have still with all other types of multimedia drivers I wouldn't recommend it. M$ just extended XP's life another 6 months anyways so it's cool to just lay back and wait awhile.
I have vista, I hated my life for 2 months. Now things are ok. ...but no better than I was at XP
Torrential
Torrential: DAOC (Pendragon)
Awned: World of Warcraft (Lothar)
Torren: Warhammer Online (Praag)
I find vista ugly, slow, and very basic in comparison to XP.
With that said, disabling lots of bloatware like aero, superfetch (sorry, but the OS shouldn't be thrashing a raid 0 raptor, 4gig machine just so some programs load a little faster) and switching to classic view, admin account etc etc... and things are going OK. Hopefully SP1 improves things, but for the moment - if you have XP, stay there.
I have had no problems with Vista and would recommend it. It has played all games i throw at it with the exception of only ONE.
BTW, love the media centre too.
DX 10 is not the only reason people would buy Vista (vista is way more then just DX10), vista will be the oprating system for the years to come weather you buy it now or over 3 years...it does not make difrents price wont drop much anyhow. so just buy it at release and you can use it thill next os hits wich you be safe thill at least 2012 and you can take it whit you to every new computer...
Vista, the OS for the year to come?Microsoft said they would release a new one in like 2009.
I won't get vista, I'll just wait a few more years.
Well were are your facts then?
You seem to know everything, why don't you look them up?
Also you're the only one here that seems to say get Vista... what are you computer specs?
I'm enjoying XP with my AMD X2 4200, 2GB RAM and my 7900GT and I've tweaked everything. It starts in a matter of seconds and I have hardly anything loaded. It's lightning fast and doesn't bog down like Vista. I've used it and don't care for it. XP is actually better now then Vista is.
DX 10 is not the only reason people would buy Vista (vista is way more then just DX10), vista will be the oprating system for the years to come weather you buy it now or over 3 years...it does not make difrents price wont drop much anyhow. so just buy it at release and you can use it thill next os hits wich you be safe thill at least 2012 and you can take it whit you to every new computer...
Vista, the OS for the year to come?Microsoft said they would release a new one in like 2009.
I won't get vista, I'll just wait a few more years.
Well were are your facts then?
You seem to know everything, why don't you look them up?
Also you're the only one here that seems to say get Vista... what are you computer specs?
I'm enjoying XP with my AMD X2 4200, 2GB RAM and my 7900GT and I've tweaked everything. It starts in a matter of seconds and I have hardly anything loaded. It's lightning fast and doesn't bog down like Vista. I've used it and don't care for it. XP is actually better now then Vista is.
So, my rig does that with Vista. Doesn't really prove one operating system is better than another. Just proves we have good rigs regardless of the OS.
People keep saying we all will upgrade eventually just like 95, 98, 2000, XP, one problem you forgot Microsoft ME. People didn't upgrade to ME and those that did regretted the decision. The new OS from microsoft is planned for a 2009 release last I heard and it will have the features that Vista scraped in favor of a early bug filled release. To me, Vista is another ME that will be a after thought in a few years.
Some say that there are more features than simply DX10 but tell me what they are? Vista runs a modified xp kernal and outside allowing you to run 4 gigs of memory and have it show up the major differences I see are negatives in performance compatibility and other "features" none of us really want.
My advice wait to at least SP1 or SP2 and then decide but by SP2 microsoft may be touting the new OS thats on the horizon.