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chryses
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This is loosely mmo related but I had to get this off my chest...
I have recently joined a mentor programme at work and I met my mentee for the first time today. I asked him about his favourite subjects and physical education was one of them. I then asked how often does he do PE. He replied, "1 hour a week". I had to ask him again just to clarify. So for all those politicians spending millions on research trying to work out why kids are fat today just have a freakin look at the school system.
1 hour a week - 10 minutes for being late - 10 minutes to get changed - 10 minutes gathering around and 10 minutes to get changed back. = a whole 20 minutes a freakin week. Then we go and serve chips and sausages for their school lunch.
What happened to 5 x 40 minute sessions a week? Man I was lucky.....
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Because of that elementary public schools have had to nearly drop all P.E. classes. I understand scholarly work is important for our children but not at the expense of their health.
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Parents are no better, many kids pick up eating habbits from their parents that neither the parents nor the kids are whilling to change, especially if they think that there is nothing wrong with it, which there isn't, it is just not a good idea.
When I was in school I had PE everyday for about an hour, I never liked that class though, I don't like sports and everything they made us do seemed so inane. It was better in middleschool because you had a choice of sports or carrying stuff, I always picked the latter. Odd that I prefer labor to games.
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When did it become the government's job to keep you in shape? The parents are responsible for seeing to it that their kids don't become overweight (actual physical disorders notwithstanding) The school's are responsible for giving the kids scholastic knowledge, that's all, end of story. Schools are not government funded gyms. I'm not saying PE classes are a bad thing, I'm just saying that the parents are responsible for their kids' health, not the schools.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Physical Education is just that EDUCATION.
Schools should have a mandatory 1 hour a day P.E. class for ALL kids. It does not matter if they like it or not. Ideally parents should teach their children about this stuff but they don't. It's not an ideal world.
Today's public schools are getting shorter and shorter while they cut more and more out of the education curriculum. It is an absolute mess, and, coming from somebody who went through the public school system K-12, I honestly feel very sorry for anybody who has to go through it. Chances are they will be severely left behind in the world.
The parents may not care about their children's health, but the government does. The government has a vested interest in each one of its' children. They will be the tax-payers, employers, employees, etc etc etc of the world. . . if they are not healthy they will die earlier. If they die earlier, the country will sink into oblivion.
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All I remember is that when I went to school there were rules in place on food and sport.
E.g.
- Hotdog day. You had to get permission from your mum to get a hotdog and this was a monthly event.
- Besides crisps and chocolate all the food in the canteen was 'real' food. Definitely no fried stuff.
- PE at least 1 hour per day still leaving 4-5 hours for study.
I know its the parents duty but don't you think that a child going through the system now and has 'no' sport and eats deep fried food all day served by the school will learn anything about health? So guess what...they will bring up their kids exactly the same way.
They need to be told that A) sport / exercise is essential in life and
you can eat deep fried food but its not good for you. Most of these kids don't even know what is good or bad. That is the school's responsibility.
Another issue is schools selling off their land for more classrooms or cash. Its all gone to hell and we are going to be paying loads of taxes for all the heart operations.
Children need to be taught about Physical Education and health, but it does not necessarily need to be in the context of actual PE at school. They need a health class where they are taught and shown the results of choices they may make. They need to pair that with healthy food choices in the Cafeteria. There is no excuse for the school system to be feeding our children crap at school. They need to remove any candy and soda vending machines from school premises. That means in the Teacher's lounge as well.
The school needs to stop selling out our children's health for better funding.
Lastly Kids need to start going back to school for longer. Summer break? Why? How many children need to go home and work on the farm still? That just doesn't happen anymore and so we no longer need summer break. School should move to a year around program from 0730 to 1630. They should include at least 1-2 study halls within that time frame. Where a Teacher is available to make sure the children are actually understanding their homework. Sure people could say that is the responsibility of the parents, but not all parents are capable. My wife and are both college educated and between us can cover all of the subjects, but not everyone is. Not every parent has progressed past algebra/geometry in mathematics, nor have they had advanced Chemistry, Biology, or Physics.
Our current Education system is failing our children. We need to place them back into school for longer and give them better funding and more subjects to learn. There is no reason (other then disabilities) why Children should leave the school system not learning at least Pre Calculus, labratory Chemistry, Biology, Physics, Advanced Reading (including how to properly due a Research paper), Advanced Social Studies (including a full understanding of government and also ethics), etc.
If we want to regain our place as world leaders we need to send more of our children to the Best colleges/universities in the World, which are in the US. When the private sector takes over our childrens education at the college level we have the best system in the world. Everything before that blows though.
They need to stop teaching to the average (which discourages both the bright and the slower children) and they need to stop teaching to a test. In Florida they teach to the FCAT to make sure they get the scores they need to get a good school grade.
Want to tie funding to performance? Then Tie it to college attendance. The higher % of students that attend post secondary education the higher the funding you get. That post secondary education can be trade school, college, community college, etc. But in today's world our children can not compete on a High school diploma alone.
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It's because kids these days are all at home playing on their computers and video games, and never go out to play like a kid is supposed to. Blame the parents.
Well even with P.E. it doesn't really guarantee that they won't be fat; a lot of them don't get the "education" aspect of P.E. Ya sure, they might run a couple of laps, but after school they'll chow down half a large pizza; it really just doesn't do much but slow down the effects.
But I do agree, it needs to start with more P.E. classes/hours, and a greater understanding of food choices people make.
Our school systems are working just the way the government wants. What you see today is not the result of mistakes, but of intent.
If I had children (which, luckily, I do not) I would *never* send them to a government school. Never.
They may be fat and ignorant, but they're good consumers, so why complain, eh?
None of this changes the fact that it is not a school's responsibility to keep your snot nosed children in shape. Educate them about how to stay in shape? Sure, but the onus is on the parents to see to it that the knowledge of how to stay in shape goes to good use. The government does not exist to keep your kids' collective waist line trim
A complete lack of personal responsibility will kill this country long before childhood obesity will.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Exercise and sunlight are BAD. I cant stand bright sunny days. I seriously think im allergic to the sun and exercise.. ill exercise indoors, sometimes.
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It depends on where you are, how much the school makes you do. Here in Illinois, it's been PE for a class period a day, every day, since first grade. As a senior in high school, I only recently got out due to a sport exemption. To be honest, it doesn't help. There are still a fairly high number of overweight students at the school. Having mandatory PE isn't the problem, it's getting the kids to try hard in PE and actually get a work-out. No matter what, you can't force some kids to try in PE.
You're living in a little something that we like to call reality...the realization that yet more mandatory PE will not make kids get motivated to stop eating cheetos is lost on some people.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
I have been working out regularly since like 8th grade (I work full time now and still go to the gym 3-4 times a week) and can't stand sloth and gluttony. I'd like to submit a possible reason (in addition to the tv and videogames argument) about why kids (and so many adults) today are so freaking fat.
I grew up with cartoons delivering messages like accept a person/yourself who they/you are. At first glance this would seem to be a fairly decent message to help breed tolerance. I wonder if an unintended side affect though is to settle for mediocrity. I never really accepted myself or gave myself a blank check so to speak. I looked at my spindly frame years ago, thought about the male models I'd seen, and said "that is what I want" and got a gym membership.
It seems to me the entire accepting people for who they are line has been perverted to use as a shield by the overweight who will try to put the onus on the rational observer by accusing them of being shallow. Then some line may be said about looking for inner beauty, look for personality, or some such. This strikes me as basically a smoke screen to distract from an lack of self control and an attempt to validate same.
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Still in high school myself I can tell you all that this whole kids not getting enough exercise thing is extremely exaggerated. Where I live we do some pretty tough stuff that not everyone can keep up with. I am overweight and I do fine in PE class, while there are perfectly fit kids who stuggle. And, you'd be suprised how many kids in my school hate video games and would rather get a group of guys together and play some football.
But, it does also depend on where you live. I used to go to a school where, and I swear I'm being serious, every Tuesday and Friday was Hot Dog or Pizza day. The meal if you ordered it came with a bag of chips, the hot dog or pizza inself and a juice box.
My point is, it's less a big deal as you all seem to think it is, depending on where you live.
When I was in elementary school we only had 1 hour a week too, but we also had 1 hour a day in the playground. The playground is a great method in tricking kids into excercising, which is why they don't have 5 days a week of P.E. However, at higher grades I think there should be a mandatory 1 hour a day P.E. first thing in the morning with the entire school. Its a great way to wake people up.
I think the no child left behind act is retarded. In that it literally makes students border-line retarded. Not all people are the same, some learn faster. When I was in school I transfered states. At the time Virginia had some of the best schools in the country, and I was one of the top students at my school. Then I went to California ranked 49th in the country during 8th grade. I didn't learn shit for 4 years. Thats how bad california schools are. I didn't even bother to try at a real career knowing I was 4 years behind people in Virginia. The main difference was in Virginia, if you wanted to learn more or learned faster they will teach you more or teach you faster. In California, they meet a minimum in education.
A child should have the personal freedom to make a decision whether to be a fat slob or not. When you waste many unwilling overweight children's time with P.E., it really drains learning time. If the child is overweight, and I have witnessed it, you can argue all you want, if a child doesn't want to participate in physical activity, they don't.
I'm an athlete, so I get my hours of exercise easily. I'd rather have an education then go play kickball.
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All I can say is do more exercises and eat healthy food.
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I'd like to propose we alter this paragraph slightly and see if it still holds true.
A child should have the personal freedom to make a decision whether to be an anorexic or not. When you waste many unwilling anorexic children's time with P.E.(which also include proper diet, or it did at my school) , it really drains learning time. If the child is anorexic, and I have witnessed it, you can argue all you want, if a child doesn't want to participate in healthy activities, they don't.
My suspicion is that when the other end of the spectrum is considered, people aren't as eager to give a pass.
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I'd like to propose we alter this paragraph slightly and see if it still holds true.
A child should have the personal freedom to make a decision whether to be an anorexic or not. When you waste many unwilling anorexic children's time with P.E.(which also include proper diet, or it did at my school) , it really drains learning time. If the child is anorexic, and I have witnessed it, you can argue all you want, if a child doesn't want to participate in healthy activities, they don't.
My suspicion is that when the other end of the spectrum is considered, people aren't as eager to give a pass.
Except anorexia isn't a problem as much as obesity is.
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I'd like to propose we alter this paragraph slightly and see if it still holds true.
A child should have the personal freedom to make a decision whether to be an anorexic or not. When you waste many unwilling anorexic children's time with P.E.(which also include proper diet, or it did at my school) , it really drains learning time. If the child is anorexic, and I have witnessed it, you can argue all you want, if a child doesn't want to participate in healthy activities, they don't.
My suspicion is that when the other end of the spectrum is considered, people aren't as eager to give a pass.
Send a fat kid or a skinny kid to a private school and see how long they refuse PE. Although I'm much too lazy to exercise currently, it does a lot of good in developement. I couldn't even do a pushup freshman year of PE, but after running 2 miles a day, doing burpies, pull ups, sit ups, etc, I felt better as a person. Being healthy feels good if you have a teacher that won't put up with pussydom and douchebaggery.
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I'd like to propose we alter this paragraph slightly and see if it still holds true.
A child should have the personal freedom to make a decision whether to be an anorexic or not. When you waste many unwilling anorexic children's time with P.E.(which also include proper diet, or it did at my school) , it really drains learning time. If the child is anorexic, and I have witnessed it, you can argue all you want, if a child doesn't want to participate in healthy activities, they don't.
My suspicion is that when the other end of the spectrum is considered, people aren't as eager to give a pass.
Except anorexia isn't a problem as much as obesity is.
I'm of the mind that the quantity of an unhealthy behavior shouldn't be a determining factor with regards to whether it should be discouraged.
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None of this changes the fact that it is not a school's responsibility to keep your snot nosed children in shape. Educate them about how to stay in shape? Sure, but the onus is on the parents to see to it that the knowledge of how to stay in shape goes to good use. The government does not exist to keep your kids' collective waist line trim
A complete lack of personal responsibility will kill this country long before childhood obesity will.
Putting it into terms you might agree with:PE is education, It is the schools responsibility to teach students how to stay fit and health. That being said, the government NEEDS its citizens, especially teenage men and women, to be fit. If students are not kept physically fit, be it on their own, or by the schools, who are going to be our soldiers?
On top of that, the government regulates the schools through the commerce clause of the constitution. This is where it derives that students are essential to the future growth of our economy. This is how they decided that the School protection act, and reasonable suspicion clause to be constitutional. Both of these are in the interest of the Students health. Now, what would be best for the students -and our future economy is the ability of the students to lead longer, healthier, and more productive lives. This not only ensures public satisfaction, but it also causes the students to pay more money to the government through taxes over the course of their lives. -x
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