I'm more and more starting to think that WoW numbers should be treated as 2 seperate groups, group 1 for North America and Europe, and second group for Asia. This way, it's just not fair comparing WoW to upcoming games, but if we look only the wstern numbers, maybe we can actualy have a meaningful discussion about what new games realy can do to WoW sub numbers.
Lets take the recent announcement that WoW hit 9.3 million active subs. IF N. America and Europe only have 1/3 of those subs (unlikely), that's 3.1 million active subs.....still far and above the other mmo's N. American and European numbers(because if you separate the numbers for them, you have to do it for everyone)
And, this is all before the next expansion.
I can't believe I'm saying this again....simply put, WoW is in a different GALAXY than the other mmo's on the market right now, including TR.
I think alot of Devs thought WoW was going to be the new model for subs etc (NGE anyone), but really its the exception to the rule. Nothings gonna beat WoW in terms of subs and who really cares? Both players and Devs need to get over it. Hopefully people will go back to making good games instead of reaching for the mythical market share that WoW had captured, when this happens we can all enjoy games that suit our playstyle and have a 200k or so playerbase.
Ok. First of note that I never been in Tabula Rasa beta , nor did I ever followed this game. However i became interested in it since the release only brought positive comments from players. So I decided play the Trial Well here goes rant and prediction
In one word , Tabula Rasa managed to do something many MMOs tried at and failed. And not only that.
Something that many game companies think is the only way to save the boring grindastic world of MMO combat. Tabula Rasa is ACTION-SHOOTER-RPG ... in a way it plays a lot like Hellgate London praised shooter class - just much much better At least Hellgate london skill trees mean something unlike TR ones And in HG:L you actually AIM and not just put your cursor in the middle of the huge square field that's supposed to be your opponent. Did I mention you can dodge based on movement in HG:L? TR is a joke TR brings dynamic MOB/enviroment - Meaning that unlike in EQ/WOW based MMOs , MOB do not move in their small aggro circle. In TR enemy forces move everywhere and dynamicaly try to capture their own objectives. This means that not only there is almost no safe spot to AFK . And also that you have dynamic BATTLEFIELD mission - where you have to protect large areas of map. On this places you can grind-facton points (if you have nothing smarter to do) but not actually feel like you are grinding. That s not true for every mob The above things make Tabula Rasa , completely different beast. Unlike any MMO until now it is action packed and fun to play for everyone, not only compulsive grind fanatics. Its become repetitive very fast hence grind boring..
In one good analysis of WOW success it was said "Secret of WOW succes was the fact it was MMO made to appeal to non MMO players" If this is a fact , than Tabula Rasa will succes tenfold. And allready the servers are bursting with activity , and i expect it to rise quickly. It might , or not.. depends on the path Garriot decide for its game. he ll need ot give way more content and way more team play for that.
All this said TR is still not a READY game. When WOW came out it was feature rich and polished. TR is missing main features, and if NC soft is smart and quickly fixes this isues - TR will easily challenge not only WOW but WAR and AOC aswell Wrong , WoW wasnt rich and polished when it was released.. the game had several issues just like any mmorpg. WoW had a huge amount of small bugs and had absolutely no real end-game for the first 3 months of the game. Most people turned to world-pvp untill Blizzard turned the world around, nerfed outdoor pvp, created battlegrounds, made people think they like them and created huge raid instances that destroyed peoples lives. Yes I used to be one of them. NC soft has to as implement following things ASAP 1.Auction house 2.PVP 3.Good crafting 4.Faction benefits PvP is there already and being worked on to improve eventhough i find it horrible just now. All the thing mentionned will add some extra but that wont affect in any way the game. what TR lack is group oriented content period.
With thiese things implemented TR will feel like full package. And we might have next 10ton gorilla on our hands good to see you enjoy the game and are optimisic .. now try to be realistic for a change Tabula Rasa was one of the games I joined and thought, wow fun! while playing the tutorial part. But past that point, you are facing endless grinding, senseless killing and running around with guns that eat ammunition faster than you can grind money to replenish them. Did I mention grinding + senseless ?
TR should be shot down and kept down.
This being said , TR is not a bad game and lot of people are having fun playing it... but in no way it will become a mainstream.. it's clearly a niche game.
1/3 is a gross exageration, if they even have 1/10 in western countries, it will be amazing. Go to your local internet cafe. 3 millions active subs would mean most peoples there are playing WoW. As you will clearly see, only a sporadic screen here and there, nothing that major.
Even bebore BC (and at 8.5 million subs) North America and Europe had more than a combined 3.5 million.
"Those who dislike things based only on the fact that they are popular are just as shallow and superficial as those who only like them for the same reason."
While I don't think TR is a flop I don't call it a slamming success, especially considering the cost of the game and the lackluster launch. Infact its merely a shadow of MMO's when compared to other MMOs that are already out there.
Tabula Rasa is (in my opinion from my experience)
1. Boring after an hour. All the over instancing, the usual lame quests, rather undynamic battlefield scenarios (I've played FPS games with more dynamic moves) just does it in for me.
2. Laggy - Maybe they've improved the servers but it was laggy even before launch. You'd swear you killed something but it was still standing. Controlls didn't always respond timely, it was an FPS nightmare when I played it before Launch.
3. Easy Spawn patterns. Everything spawns in the same place and rapidly. There's no need to hunt down their landing parties you can just sit still for about a minute and another ship comes by.
4. Casually Friendly - this isn't a downer. If you don't have alot of time and you want to play a game with other people and not be a true FPS game this is a good choice for you.
5. Not an MMORPG - if it is..they need some serious help with depth even WoW has more and that takes alot of me to say. Yes its an MMO - FPS but thats it..there's nothign super engaging.
6. Crappy Skill / Talent tree system. Its probably the most limited and slightly confusing system ever. WoW and EQ2 as old as they are, blow their version of variety away. Warhammer will blow them all away with its tree system.
Tabula Rasa is its own beast...is it a good beast? Not for the 15 bucks a pop a month & the 50 bucks just for the game. Is it a fun beast? If you like the same thing over and over ... Is it a Record breaking WoW style beast killer? Hell No...not now..not ever. If you can't even pull in your fan base right away your game will never pull in the numbers (alot of Richard Garriott's fans are disappointed, if you can't make them happy you'll never make the rest happy either). You either have the numbers at launch or you never have them. Thats just one game player's opinion.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Well I dont think the OP was exactly being serious with the whole "challenging" of WoW comment. Most here already understand the chances of any mmo giving wow a run is pretty much nill. I mean Blizzard owes WoW's success to the fact they have always been the "Nintendo" of pc game developers. They have an empire of 8-15 year olds that would run out and pre-order "Orgeon Trail 2007" if Blizzard put it's name on the box. There are of course other obvious reasons WoW would have still done well but my point is the game could have been total crap and it would still be on top simply do to the Blizzard fanatics.
IMO bad word of mouth already killed TR's chances at a large healthy population before the game ever got out of beta. Same thing that happened to games like Auto Assault, Horizons, AC2 and so on. I say just enjoy the game man because we now know NCSoft has no problems shutting these things down when they get to Auto Assault levels.
Lol. Did you play the game? It sounds like this was copy pasted from the TR FAQ or something. The game is horrible though. One of the worst MMORPGs I ever played (i only played open beta, but it was still lousy).
Now, I think TR is a great game, it seems more streamlined (although a bit off in some categories...), but WoW is surviving on two facts: reputation and economies of scale. WoW earned its reputation as being 'fun' for newbies and non-MMO players, in fact I hear the words WoW and World of Warcraft thrown around more than do I EQ (1 and 2) or any other MMO. That's a reputation you can't buy (and even NCsoft knows this, otherwise we'd see more adverts all over for it outside of electronic/video game magazines (the same goes for HG:L)). The economies of scale is what is sustaining WoW more than reputation. With millions of co-current subscribers world-wide it's little wonder that WoW continues to chug on, this means they launched their game at time (and on specifications) where money was sufficiently free among consumers to make it easy to pick up that game and run with it (hint: WoW doesn't demand bleeding-edge GPU/CPUs to run it, even TR requires some significant GPUs to make it worthwhile to play). This means that WoW was able to grow based on this fact, and maintain a user base beyond the expectations of its creators (Blizzard only expected potentially 400K co-current users at maximum, and 75K at launch). Which, I suspect, is a 2:1 ratio (2 joining the game, 1 leaving the game as subscribers) is approximate to what the gain is for WoW. So, even though TR is a fun game, I doubt it will take down WoW. More than likely, WoW will take down WoW, meaning it will go out with a whimper boredom and not the bang of market competition.
Been playing TR since it game out and so far its just quest grinding, which isn't very fun. They really need to make the game more engaging cause theres only so much bane killing you can do before bored sets in.
While I don't think TR is a flop I don't call it a slamming success, especially considering the cost of the game and the lackluster launch. Infact its merely a shadow of MMO's when compared to other MMOs that are already out there.
Tabula Rasa is (in my opinion from my experience) 1. Boring after an hour. All the over instancing, the usual lame quests, rather undynamic battlefield scenarios (I've played FPS games with more dynamic moves) just does it in for me.
2. Laggy - Maybe they've improved the servers but it was laggy even before launch. You'd swear you killed something but it was still standing. Controlls didn't always respond timely, it was an FPS nightmare when I played it before Launch.
3. Easy Spawn patterns. Everything spawns in the same place and rapidly. There's no need to hunt down their landing parties you can just sit still for about a minute and another ship comes by.
4. Casually Friendly - this isn't a downer. If you don't have alot of time and you want to play a game with other people and not be a true FPS game this is a good choice for you.
5. Not an MMORPG - if it is..they need some serious help with depth even WoW has more and that takes alot of me to say. Yes its an MMO - FPS but thats it..there's nothign super engaging.
6. Crappy Skill / Talent tree system. Its probably the most limited and slightly confusing system ever. WoW and EQ2 as old as they are, blow their version of variety away. Warhammer will blow them all away with its tree system.
Tabula Rasa is its own beast...is it a good beast? Not for the 15 bucks a pop a month & the 50 bucks just for the game. Is it a fun beast? If you like the same thing over and over ... Is it a Record breaking WoW style beast killer? Hell No...not now..not ever. If you can't even pull in your fan base right away your game will never pull in the numbers (alot of Richard Garriott's fans are disappointed, if you can't make them happy you'll never make the rest happy either). You either have the numbers at launch or you never have them. Thats just one game player's opinion.
I agree with most of what your saying, but I'm still having fun with TR. The Devs do ned to come up with more abilities/skills in the progression tree, cause right now it seems like an alpha version and not a finished product.
Now, while EQ2 and WoW are indeed 3 years old, there hoenstly isn't another MMO that rivals both games on the market right now that came out after them two Giants. Both games will still rule the MMO world at least until WAR goes live and even after then I'm sure you'll still see many peopel prefer EQ2 and WoW over WAR and AOC. Both games focus on PVP as it's eccentric storyline first, and quite a few MMO gamers aren't to fond of this. Personally, I'm anxiously waiting both games, AOC probably a bit more than WAR since WAR's graphics engine doesn't really do much for me at all. It looks to similar with WoW with it's cartoony textures, but the lore around the game is awesome.
Rallithon Oakthornn (Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
The next ten ton gorillas in the MMO world will be either Warhammer or Guild Wars 2 (While I am anticipating AoC I doubt it will be huge but it will be successful)...... Tabula Rasa has no chance at huge success its just WAY too shallow and has little name recognition......
I was disappointed by the lack of dynamic battlefields it makes no sense too me how can we have a WAR game but its no a war at all., I am sure Warhammer Online will at least having moving objectives?
I saved a NPC and as soon as she got to launch pad she vanished. right then I had no doubt I made no impact
why do they need me to fight this fake war where nothing ever changes. Its like being in Hell in an ever lasting war that never ends and no one dies. The torture is that it never ends
I made my first Tier was really ahppy. only got like 4 new powers. confused I go online and yep apparently at each tier I only get 4 new powers. Why couldnt they add more pwoers then this????
I seriously doubt Richard Garriot played an important role in UO. I think it was Raph Koster
I like it kinda. I like how the missions show me exactly where to go and all the NPCs glow to tell you where to go. Its a lazy man's MMO. I do like how mobs 'spawn' into the world. Makes more sense then how they just randomly appear in other MMOs. You actually see a dropship bringing in the enemies thats a nice touch I'm not sure whats going on im killing mobs twice my level. seems decent but I dont think its a WoW killer. I'm still low atm got 2 lowbies im switching between
How long does it take you to kill those mobs twice your level? Does it take longer than killing mobs that are the same level as you or lower? If Yes, in WoW doesn't it take a long time to kill things twice your level? but you still end up killing them anyways? I'd say you should try fighting 3 mobs made up of 3 linkers twice your level, we'll see how easy that is. IRT# lionexx thanks
I always try and wait til I hit mid-high level beofre commenting on an MMO but last night I ran out of bullets and this happened:
1) I could no longer fire my guns. I was fighting a mob bout twice my level 2) I unarmed my character. luckily my soldier had 1 point in hand-to-hand combat. 3) I fought all the mobs hand-to-hand for bout 30 minutes (pinhole caverns). 4) I finally got myself into deep trouble though and ran into an egg layer that wouldnt die
not a bad game and hopefully it'll get more challenging as I stray away mroe and more from the boot camp in wilderness
edit- oh btw I asked in global chat for bout 30 mins straight for tips how to find pinhole caverns and gotten ignored. I also tried asking my fellow newbies and was promptly ignored. did have some help from a fellow newbie to kill a boss I needed though but he ran off before I could ask him how to find the cavern, grrr.... Took bout 1 hour to find that cavern
I was disappointed by the lack of dynamic battlefields it makes no sense too me how can we have a WAR game but its no a war at all., I am sure Warhammer Online will at least having moving objectives? I saved a NPC and as soon as she got to launch pad she vanished. right then I had no doubt I made no impact why do they need me to fight this fake war where nothing ever changes. Its like being in Hell in an ever lasting war that never ends and no one dies. The torture is that it never ends
I made my first Tier was really ahppy. only got like 4 new powers. confused I go online and yep apparently at each tier I only get 4 new powers. Why couldnt they add more pwoers then this???? I seriously doubt Richard Garriot played an important role in UO. I think it was Raph Koster
No, if it had been "Raph Kosters Tabula Rasa", it would have had a world and room for alot of other playstyles, playstyles that depended on eachother and not everything was "click click boom"...
Sadly it became "Richard Garriots Tabula Rasa" and since his "fame" has turned him insane...well, this is what you get
There is no way that a game which sucks as much as TR will get anywhere near 10 million subs.
Actually, plenty of ways for it to get millions of players.
Launch it with different payment plans depending on continent.
Asia: Cheap, but you pay for time, not "pay for month", like WoW does
Asia still: Item Mall, free2play, like most asian grinders..Perfect World is told to have 30 million players...Yet in the western world we barely hear about the game..Cuz it hasnt reached us yet.
Europe/US: Free to play basic mode, with cheap monthly "premium" mode. Like dungeon runners have. Oddly enough, dungeon runners wich is rather sucky sucky and not even close to a AAA or even A title earns $$'s!
If you look into your holy cow, WoW, you'll notice that it's only us Euro/US suckers that pay "premium" price for it...And that the cheapskates overseas(asia), pay pennies... And it's in Asia that WoW has the biggest playerbase.
And yetWoW ain't even close to being the BIGGEST MMO in Asia.
Tabula Rasa, however sucky for our tastes(even for the FPS boom boom player) can easily be modified to fit right into the asian market.. and thus reach millions of players, just like the sucky asiangrinders.
But hey, Asian players don't count, unless it's WoW right?
I think its safe to say its not going to threaten WoW in any way. Not unless they launch it in Asia anyway.
Why do some of you guys post that 10 million number of WoWs sub base like its all westerners? The majority of those subs are in Asia.
The game that will undo WoW will be the game that captures both the western market AND the Asian market like WoW did. Of course WoW had the advantage of already having a customer base of millions before it launched and that is something no other MMO has ever had either.
I still can't believe they actually called it : "Richard Garriot's Tabula Rasa". Imo, there are only 2 designers who are good enough to put their names on the box, and Richard Garriot is not one of them.
I still can't believe they actually called it : "Richard Garriot's Tabula Rasa". Imo, there are only 2 designers who are good enough to put their names on the box, and Richard Garriot is not one of them.
Sid Meier and Will Wright? John Carmack perhaps?
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR Playing: WAR Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
I still can't believe they actually called it : "Richard Garriot's Tabula Rasa". Imo, there are only 2 designers who are good enough to put their names on the box, and Richard Garriot is not one of them.
Sid Meier and Will Wright? John Carmack perhaps?
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Brad McQuaid and the head honcho at NP Cube.
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I dont know which drugs you take but I see that they are better that mine..
Lets take the recent announcement that WoW hit 9.3 million active subs. IF N. America and Europe only have 1/3 of those subs (unlikely), that's 3.1 million active subs.....still far and above the other mmo's N. American and European numbers(because if you separate the numbers for them, you have to do it for everyone)
And, this is all before the next expansion.
I can't believe I'm saying this again....simply put, WoW is in a different GALAXY than the other mmo's on the market right now, including TR.
I think alot of Devs thought WoW was going to be the new model for subs etc (NGE anyone), but really its the exception to the rule. Nothings gonna beat WoW in terms of subs and who really cares? Both players and Devs need to get over it. Hopefully people will go back to making good games instead of reaching for the mythical market share that WoW had captured, when this happens we can all enjoy games that suit our playstyle and have a 200k or so playerbase.
This being said , TR is not a bad game and lot of people are having fun playing it... but in no way it will become a mainstream.. it's clearly a niche game.
(lvled a biotech till 34 and a commando 32)
Prepare to be amazed.
http://www.blizzard.com/press/070111.shtml
Even bebore BC (and at 8.5 million subs) North America and Europe had more than a combined 3.5 million.
"Those who dislike things based only on the fact that they are popular are just as shallow and superficial as those who only like them for the same reason."
While I don't think TR is a flop I don't call it a slamming success, especially considering the cost of the game and the lackluster launch. Infact its merely a shadow of MMO's when compared to other MMOs that are already out there.
Tabula Rasa is (in my opinion from my experience)
1. Boring after an hour. All the over instancing, the usual lame quests, rather undynamic battlefield scenarios (I've played FPS games with more dynamic moves) just does it in for me.
2. Laggy - Maybe they've improved the servers but it was laggy even before launch. You'd swear you killed something but it was still standing. Controlls didn't always respond timely, it was an FPS nightmare when I played it before Launch.
3. Easy Spawn patterns. Everything spawns in the same place and rapidly. There's no need to hunt down their landing parties you can just sit still for about a minute and another ship comes by.
4. Casually Friendly - this isn't a downer. If you don't have alot of time and you want to play a game with other people and not be a true FPS game this is a good choice for you.
5. Not an MMORPG - if it is..they need some serious help with depth even WoW has more and that takes alot of me to say. Yes its an MMO - FPS but thats it..there's nothign super engaging.
6. Crappy Skill / Talent tree system. Its probably the most limited and slightly confusing system ever. WoW and EQ2 as old as they are, blow their version of variety away. Warhammer will blow them all away with its tree system.
Tabula Rasa is its own beast...is it a good beast? Not for the 15 bucks a pop a month & the 50 bucks just for the game. Is it a fun beast? If you like the same thing over and over ... Is it a Record breaking WoW style beast killer? Hell No...not now..not ever. If you can't even pull in your fan base right away your game will never pull in the numbers (alot of Richard Garriott's fans are disappointed, if you can't make them happy you'll never make the rest happy either). You either have the numbers at launch or you never have them. Thats just one game player's opinion.
Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!
Well I dont think the OP was exactly being serious with the whole "challenging" of WoW comment. Most here already understand the chances of any mmo giving wow a run is pretty much nill. I mean Blizzard owes WoW's success to the fact they have always been the "Nintendo" of pc game developers. They have an empire of 8-15 year olds that would run out and pre-order "Orgeon Trail 2007" if Blizzard put it's name on the box. There are of course other obvious reasons WoW would have still done well but my point is the game could have been total crap and it would still be on top simply do to the Blizzard fanatics.
IMO bad word of mouth already killed TR's chances at a large healthy population before the game ever got out of beta. Same thing that happened to games like Auto Assault, Horizons, AC2 and so on. I say just enjoy the game man because we now know NCSoft has no problems shutting these things down when they get to Auto Assault levels.
Lol. Did you play the game? It sounds like this was copy pasted from the TR FAQ or something. The game is horrible though. One of the worst MMORPGs I ever played (i only played open beta, but it was still lousy).
Now, I think TR is a great game, it seems more streamlined (although a bit off in some categories...), but WoW is surviving on two facts: reputation and economies of scale. WoW earned its reputation as being 'fun' for newbies and non-MMO players, in fact I hear the words WoW and World of Warcraft thrown around more than do I EQ (1 and 2) or any other MMO. That's a reputation you can't buy (and even NCsoft knows this, otherwise we'd see more adverts all over for it outside of electronic/video game magazines (the same goes for HG:L)). The economies of scale is what is sustaining WoW more than reputation. With millions of co-current subscribers world-wide it's little wonder that WoW continues to chug on, this means they launched their game at time (and on specifications) where money was sufficiently free among consumers to make it easy to pick up that game and run with it (hint: WoW doesn't demand bleeding-edge GPU/CPUs to run it, even TR requires some significant GPUs to make it worthwhile to play). This means that WoW was able to grow based on this fact, and maintain a user base beyond the expectations of its creators (Blizzard only expected potentially 400K co-current users at maximum, and 75K at launch). Which, I suspect, is a 2:1 ratio (2 joining the game, 1 leaving the game as subscribers) is approximate to what the gain is for WoW. So, even though TR is a fun game, I doubt it will take down WoW. More than likely, WoW will take down WoW, meaning it will go out with a whimper boredom and not the bang of market competition.
-- Brede
Been playing TR since it game out and so far its just quest grinding, which isn't very fun. They really need to make the game more engaging cause theres only so much bane killing you can do before bored sets in.
MMOCrunch
I agree with most of what your saying, but I'm still having fun with TR. The Devs do ned to come up with more abilities/skills in the progression tree, cause right now it seems like an alpha version and not a finished product.
Now, while EQ2 and WoW are indeed 3 years old, there hoenstly isn't another MMO that rivals both games on the market right now that came out after them two Giants. Both games will still rule the MMO world at least until WAR goes live and even after then I'm sure you'll still see many peopel prefer EQ2 and WoW over WAR and AOC. Both games focus on PVP as it's eccentric storyline first, and quite a few MMO gamers aren't to fond of this. Personally, I'm anxiously waiting both games, AOC probably a bit more than WAR since WAR's graphics engine doesn't really do much for me at all. It looks to similar with WoW with it's cartoony textures, but the lore around the game is awesome.
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
The next ten ton gorillas in the MMO world will be either Warhammer or Guild Wars 2 (While I am anticipating AoC I doubt it will be huge but it will be successful)...... Tabula Rasa has no chance at huge success its just WAY too shallow and has little name recognition......
I was disappointed by the lack of dynamic battlefields it makes no sense too me how can we have a WAR game but its no a war at all., I am sure Warhammer Online will at least having moving objectives?
I saved a NPC and as soon as she got to launch pad she vanished. right then I had no doubt I made no impact
why do they need me to fight this fake war where nothing ever changes. Its like being in Hell in an ever lasting war that never ends and no one dies. The torture is that it never ends
I made my first Tier was really ahppy. only got like 4 new powers. confused I go online and yep apparently at each tier I only get 4 new powers. Why couldnt they add more pwoers then this????
I seriously doubt Richard Garriot played an important role in UO. I think it was Raph Koster
I always try and wait til I hit mid-high level beofre commenting on an MMO but last night I ran out of bullets and this happened:
1) I could no longer fire my guns. I was fighting a mob bout twice my level
2) I unarmed my character. luckily my soldier had 1 point in hand-to-hand combat.
3) I fought all the mobs hand-to-hand for bout 30 minutes (pinhole caverns).
4) I finally got myself into deep trouble though and ran into an egg layer that wouldnt die
not a bad game and hopefully it'll get more challenging as I stray away mroe and more from the boot camp in wilderness
edit- oh btw I asked in global chat for bout 30 mins straight for tips how to find pinhole caverns and gotten ignored. I also tried asking my fellow newbies and was promptly ignored. did have some help from a fellow newbie to kill a boss I needed though but he ran off before I could ask him how to find the cavern, grrr.... Took bout 1 hour to find that cavern
No, if it had been "Raph Kosters Tabula Rasa", it would have had a world and room for alot of other playstyles, playstyles that depended on eachother and not everything was "click click boom"...
Sadly it became "Richard Garriots Tabula Rasa" and since his "fame" has turned him insane...well, this is what you get
There is no way that a game which sucks as much as TR will get anywhere near 10 million subs.
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Actually, plenty of ways for it to get millions of players.
Launch it with different payment plans depending on continent.
If you look into your holy cow, WoW, you'll notice that it's only us Euro/US suckers that pay "premium" price for it...And that the cheapskates overseas(asia), pay pennies... And it's in Asia that WoW has the biggest playerbase.
And yetWoW ain't even close to being the BIGGEST MMO in Asia.
Tabula Rasa, however sucky for our tastes(even for the FPS boom boom player) can easily be modified to fit right into the asian market.. and thus reach millions of players, just like the sucky asiangrinders.
But hey, Asian players don't count, unless it's WoW right?
TR is a solid title IMHO and I enjoy the game but its already slipping down the ranking on Amazon and Gamespot.
www.amazon.com/NCsoft-FG-XP-TR1ST-030-Richard-Garriotts-Tabula/dp/B000SAV6RS
I think its safe to say its not going to threaten WoW in any way. Not unless they launch it in Asia anyway.
Why do some of you guys post that 10 million number of WoWs sub base like its all westerners? The majority of those subs are in Asia.
The game that will undo WoW will be the game that captures both the western market AND the Asian market like WoW did. Of course WoW had the advantage of already having a customer base of millions before it launched and that is something no other MMO has ever had either.
I still can't believe they actually called it : "Richard Garriot's Tabula Rasa". Imo, there are only 2 designers who are good enough to put their names on the box, and Richard Garriot is not one of them.
Sid Meier and Will Wright? John Carmack perhaps?
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Sid Meier and Will Wright? John Carmack perhaps?
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Brad McQuaid and the head honcho at NP Cube.
There is nothing to see with TR. It is shallow.
There is nothing to see with TR. It is shallow.
So is WoW.
much as i hate wow its 100x the puddle that TR is.
now i must go take a garriott.
This game isnt going to kill WoW.
It will barely scratch the surface of WoW.
People won't even know the game exists in two years.