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Is there a difference between Player versus Player and Player Killing?
kinsie21
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Hello every1 tell me ur opions of what they 2 mean u in mmorpg
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PKing is the act of killing another player. PvP can take form in many ways, other than just killing. For example, in EVE the economy is another form of PvP, as are the politics.
PvP is what PKing is.
I think the OP was getting to a different point.
PK'ing usually takes a negative conotation because many players feel that alot of PK's prey on weaker characters/players and have no sense of honor. While perhaps serving some kind of sick sense of enjoyment for some PK's, unbridled PK'ing can make a game very UNfun for those being killed...over and over and over again simply because they have weaker characters, worse gear, less gaming skill, slower connection, etc.
PvP on the other can take many forms including tournaments, duels, faction wars, etc. all of which have better reputations. Generally, PvP is thought of being more consensual and more fair so that fewer players are merely preyed upon by cruel and obnoxious PKs who kill anyone and everyone in sight.
I know many Pk's will have differing opinions, but that is how I believe a large number of MMO players see things. PvP and PK'ing can be fine, but it is the a-holes (however much of a minority they are) who take great pleasure in ruining someone else's fun in game that gives the whole style a bad name in many circles.
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Is there a diffrence between Player Vrs Player and PKing...
Yes,
There is also a diffrence between PVP and Realm V Realm, Team V Team and Squad/clan V squad/Clan
There is also a diffrence between PKing, Ganking, Griefing and Teamkilling.
The answer to your post question, the diffrence is about honor or lack of.
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I prefer to think its the moron that gets pk'd who ruined everyones experience. Oh shit, u died, end of the fucking world. Not really. Its a game. You are going to die. Shrug. I just dont get the current mentality of most gamers anymore. Its as if losing even a single fight totally ruins their gaming experience.
So the "moron" gets pked because he is new to the game and has no chance to fight back? The mentality of current players isn't the getting killed is bad, it's getting killed with ZERO chance to actually fight back is bad. Player killing happens, oh well. It's griefing that gets on peoples nerves.Even getting griefed now and then isn't a huge issue, the problem is that some people make a rather nasty habit out of it and yes, whether you think so or not, getting griefed for hours on end so that you can't really level or play the game just plain bites. The only people who see no problem with constant griefing are generally the people who do the griefing.
In modern terms and IMO:
Player Killing is when you win in any Player vs Player battle which results in your opponent them dying i.e. you are now are Player Killer. I don't see this as a negative/evil term as it used to be, as RPK has now replaced it's original meaning:
RPK = Random Player Killer, meaning you kill people randomly or without reason.
a lot of players for some reason tried to add an entire genre of pvp to the words player killing.
PVP and PK are the same thing. PVP is what you can consider a genre, which stands for player versus player. a PK is when a player actually kills someone else, it doesn't matter if this is in RVR PVP or FFA PVP. when a player kills another player, it's a playerkill. you don't say "I just pvp'd someone!"
I think a good game to show the difference between these two terms is Lineage 2.
If someone was killed by a level 43 character, that was sitting (literally sitting) in wait for a new player to come out so they could kill them, thats not player vs player, thats Player Killing. If two people meet in Death Pass and they have a difference of opinion of who's loot just got picked up, and they both KNOWINGLY start to beat each other down, then thats PvP. Although when someone chills around new players just to kill them, there is no versus is that, its just some assclown killing new players because he doesn't have the talent to be that guy in Death Pass.
Now the people here can argue about the way they view the term pk untill this thread has a 100+ post count, but I think it's fairly obvious that their is a difference. PK is a negative term, referring to one hell of an asswhopping. PvP is when a fight takes place, that from the start wasn't a one sided douche-bagery competition.
I think the term "Player killers" started in the early days of UO. In order to understand that term you have to go back to that game.
Let me give an example, say I was out chopping logs for wood. I was a lumberjack, and a another player ( a red player or PKer) would come along and kill my lumberjack. It was kinda like murder in a sense, because my lumber jack was out making a living and a killer killed him.
It has been a long time since I heard that term in any game that I have played. I really thought it was an old UO thing that never really made it over to EverQuest and what came after. It was a way to identify other players that would kill you or fight you for no reason. Call it respect or honor or what not, but thats where it came from.
A PVP kills other players.
A PK kills anyone, including much weaker opponents.
All PKer are PVPers. Not all PVPers are PKers.
The subset of PVP minus PK doesn't seem to have a name, really. Carebear PVPer? You decide.
PK = Murderer
PVP = General term for all combat that isn't against mobs... could be consentual by both parties.
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I'd heard the term back in MUD days, pre-UO.
Player Kill- When i use pk it deals with a specific person(s), an example would be: soandso just pk'ed me.
Player vs Player- With pvp it deals with a certain area where players fight other players.
It matters which game you play, i know in guild wars no one says pk, on the other hand when i played Martial heroes everyone would say: hey this assassin just pk'ed me, help me kill her
I'd heard the term back in MUD days, pre-UO.
Yeah, MUDing is where PKing started. You kids...That's where UO got their ideas for corpse-looting. :P
Player Killing = killing a player that is defenseless in some way(either they are occupied with something or low level), also called Ganking
Player vs Player = combat between players where both parties are prepared
It's not hard to see why some players do not see Player Killing in a negative connotation