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Judging from the states left, do you think Obama can become the democrat candidate?
Thrakk
Member Posts: 1,226
Clinton has 1038 delegates
Obama has 940 delegates
2025 are needed to win. I have no idea what states are left. Do you?
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It depends on how he panders to these states, and if he over-panders. Right now I would say Hillary has slightly more popularity in the remaining states.
i hope so.
once he is nominated, can we stop giving minorities extra points on tests? or do we have to wait until a minority is president to move on and stop treating them like short bus people?
yea, I know, my tact is wonderful.
-I will subtlety invade your psyche-
There are two things Obama always has with him on the campaign trail: 1. Rhetoric and 2. an earpiece
www.youtube.com/watch
He obviously needs his minders to tell him what to say.
Obama stands for Hope and Change.
and apparently vagueness...
I do hope he gets the nomination though.
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by the looks of things.. he sure looks like hes going to get the nomination..
Boy I hope so because if Hillary gets elected thats the end of the US as we know it.
I can't believe people actually support her. She is a flip flopper who is completely owned by special interests.
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www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article
thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html
and theres plenty more
www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article
thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html
and theres plenty more
All politicians are.
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Most of them don't out right lie about there connections to lobbyists it in there stump speeches.
Yeah I know they all are. But after Hillary's plan got defeated when she was first lady she now is in bed with the same companies that spent millions to defeat her plan. She didn't change their minds instead she changed her plan.
Currently playing:
LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too:
Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
Most of them don't out right lie about there connections to lobbyists it in there stump speeches.
Yo Precursor, I used to be a lot like you with the whole "fuck the world" attitude. Now that I am 30, I am come to accept that not all battles are going to be won, and that life requires a constant selection of lesser evils.
Having said that, I wonder what you think about Obama's plan to give children unequivocal healthcare, and his ideas on having big and small businesses pool their risks to lessen healthcare costs?
Also, how do you feel about Obama's employing of ex-Clinton foreign policy experts, and his policy of hiring the best and the brightest, as opposed to toting Cronies from your homestate along, ala GWB?
You seem like someone who wants drastic change very badly, same here. Obama is honestly our best chance for change, even if it is on a smaller scale than you or I could ever want.
We can all take comfort in the fact that WHEN he becomes president, we are electing someone from the outside. Maybe his administration will fuck everything up due to his lack of experience, but given the last 7 years we have had, I, and millions of other Americans, are willing to roll the dice on Barack.
Most of them don't out right lie about there connections to lobbyists it in there stump speeches.
Yo Precursor, I used to be a lot like you with the whole "fuck the world" attitude. Now that I am 30, I am come to accept that not all battles are going to be won, and that life requires a constant selection of lesser evils.
Having said that, I wonder what you think about Obama's plan to give children unequivocal healthcare, and his ideas on having big and small businesses pool their risks to lessen healthcare costs?
Also, how do you feel about Obama's employing of ex-Clinton foreign policy experts, and his policy of hiring the best and the brightest, as opposed to toting Cronies from your homestate along, ala GWB?
You seem like someone who wants drastic change very badly, same here. Obama is honestly our best chance for change, even if it is on a smaller scale than you or I could ever want.
We can all take comfort in the fact that WHEN he becomes president, we are electing someone from the outside. Maybe his administration will fuck everything up due to his lack of experience, but given the last 7 years we have had, I, and millions of other Americans, are willing to roll the dice on Barack.
Am I the only one that sees contrast from your post and your sig?
GL to your candidate, I personally dont think he's best for america... having said that, i must add that if mccain is the nominee(which it looks like it will be, Mitt dropped out), democrats will have a very tough time getting obama or for that matter, billary elected, due to mccains moderate and independent appeal. and of course conservative will cast the anti obama-billary vote.
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I don't think there is really any contrast between my statement and my sig BBH. I have been reading your posts lately, and I like what you have to say. However your potshot at relating my post to my signature was a little petty.
I left college a diehard Marxist, and soon changed my way once it came to getting a job and paying the bills for my family. I will admit that my non-conformist ways have taken the back-seat due to the forces of reality. 'Tis life.
Aye and the other polititians stand for security and confidence.....apparently in using the system to fuck people up, without them knowing it.
I prefer someone with less experience but good ideals than a professional politician like Clinton who uses the establishment for her personal gain (but most importantly for her rich supporters gain).
It's time to be bold, it's time for a change.
Honestly nothing could be worse than G.W.Bush, so be brave and go for the unknown.
I see now, your sig is meant as sarcasm.
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I chose a side that I felt was better for my future generations, my children.Aye and the other polititians stand for security and confidence.....apparently in using the system to fuck people up, without them knowing it.
I prefer someone with less experience but good ideals than a professional politician like Clinton who uses the establishment for her personal gain (but most importantly for her rich supporters gain).
It's time to be bold, it's time for a change.
Honestly nothing could be worse than G.W.Bush, so be brave and go for the unknown.
ultimately, standing waaaay waaay way back, as I always do, i see 2 directions this country will head in.
socialism or the way it iswas now.
I like america the way it is. I wish to conserve it for my future generation. I vote conservative, no matter what. The real power in this country is the judiciary and I hope to God constitutionalists get appointed rather than people who would prefer to interpret the constitution on there own or look to foreign lands for interpretation.
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Actually, the big 'to do' right now is about how McCain has a lot of hate from the conservatives.
I personally think that Obama has a good shot at beating McCain in the general election, but Hillary not so much. Obama appeals to people of both parties because he wants to at least try and reach out to Republicans where all Hillary wants to do is fight them. I can see Obama picking up votes from conservatives in November simply to spite McCain.
conservatives will vote anti- billary obama.
he doesnt need the support to win the election, he will need the support to get shit done once sworn in. i dont think itll come down to republicans fillibustering their own president nor do i expect a man of his integrity to sell us conservatives out again. so i expect ole john boy to come around.
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Here is some of McCains speech today at CPAC,this is considerd the first date to the conservatives,well that's how some conservatives referred to it today.What stood out about the speech to me was the fact that he admitted to the fact that he has made some major mistakes.Made a big impack on me....because i dont like the old fart.
They will appoint to the federal bench judges who are intent on achieving political changes that the American people cannot be convinced to accept through the election of their representatives.
I intend to nominate judges who have proven themselves worthy of our trust that they take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people's elected representatives, judges of the character and quality of Justices Roberts and Alito, judges who can be relied upon to respect the values of the people whose rights, laws and property they are sworn to defend.
Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will withdraw our forces from Iraq based on an arbitrary timetable designed for the sake of political expediency, and which recklessly ignores the profound human calamity and dire threats to our security that would ensue.
I intend to win the war, and trust in the proven judgment of our commanders there and the courage and selflessness of the Americans they have the honor to command. I share the grief over the terrible losses we have suffered in its prosecution. There is no other candidate for this office who appreciates more than I do just how awful war is. But I know that the costs in lives and treasure we would incur should we fail in Iraq will be far greater than the heartbreaking losses we have suffered to date. And I will not allow that to happen.
They won't recognize and seriously address the threat posed by an Iran with nuclear ambitions to our ally, Israel, and the region.
I intend to make unmistakably clear to Iran we will not permit a government that espouses the destruction of the State of Israel as its fondest wish and pledges undying enmity to the United States to possess the weapons to advance their malevolent ambitions.
Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will concede to our critics that our own actions to defend against its threats are responsible for fomenting the terrible evil of radical Islamic extremism, and their resolve to combat it will be as flawed as their judgment.
I intend to defeat that threat by staying on offense and by marshaling every relevant agency of our government, and our allies, in the urgent necessity of defending the values, virtues and security of free people against those who despise all that is good about us.
These are but a few of the differences that will define this election. They are very significant differences, and I promise you, I intend to contest these issues on conservative grounds and fight as hard as I can to defend the principles and positions we share, and to keep this country safe, proud, prosperous and free.
We have had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won't continue to have a few. But even in disagreement, especially in disagreement, I will seek the counsel of my fellow conservatives. If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it. And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in complete accord.
I began by assuring you that we share a conception of liberty that is the bedrock of our beliefs as conservatives. As you know, I was deprived of liberty for a time in my life, and while my love of liberty is no greater than yours, you can be confident that mine is the equal of any American's. It is a deep and unwavering love. My life experiences in service to our country inform my political judgments. They are at the core of my convictions. I am pro-life and an advocate for the Rights of Man everywhere in the world because of them, because I know that to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator. I will never waver in that conviction, I promise you. I know in this country our liberty will not be seized in a political revolution or by a totalitarian government. But, rather, as Burke warned, it can be "nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts." I am alert to that risk and will defend against it, and ta ke comfort from the knowledge that I will be encouraged in that defense by my fellow conservatives.
You have heard me say before that for all my reputation as a maverick, I have only found true happiness in serving a cause greater than my self-interest. For me, that cause has always been our country, and the ideals that have made us great. I have been her imperfect servant for many years, and I have made many mistakes. You can attest to that, but need not. For I know them well myself. But I love her deeply and I will never, never tire of the honor of serving her. I cannot do that without your counsel and support. And I am grateful, very grateful, that you have given me this opportunity to ask for it.
Thank you and God bless you.
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Obama has won states from South Carolina to Missouri to Alaska, and he's seen as positive and popular. The only places HIllary can count on are the northeast and California, which she already won.Obama has at least a 50/50 chance to win.
I hope he means that. I think he does.
There is something so motivational in conservative speeches for me. Coming from John Mccain it might not sound motivational but reading the text, makes me proud.
"Those who deplore use of the terms "pink" and "leftist" are themselves guilty of branding all who oppose their liberalism as right wing extremists"
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"In this vote-harvesting time, they use terms like the "Great Society," or as we were told a few days ago by the President, we must accept a greater government activity in the affairs of the people. But they've been a little more explicit in the past and among themselves; and all of the things I now will quote have appeared in print. These are not Republican accusations. For example, they have voices that say, "The cold war will end through our acceptance of a not undemocratic socialism." Another voice says, "The profit motive has become outmoded. It must be replaced by the incentives of the welfare state." Or, "Our traditional system of individual freedom is incapable of solving the complex problems of the 20th century." Senator Fulbright has said at Stanford University that the Constitution is outmoded. He referred to the President as "our moral teacher and our leader," and he says he is "hobbled in his task by the restrictions of power imposed on him by this antiquated document." He must "be freed," so that he "can do for us" what he knows "is best." And Senator Clark of Pennsylvania, another articulate spokesman, defines liberalism as "meeting the material needs of the masses through the full power of centralized government."
Well, I, for one, resent it when a representative of the people refers to you and me, the free men and women of this country, as "the masses." This is a term we haven't applied to ourselves in America. But beyond that, "the full power of centralized government" -- this was the very thing the Founding Fathers sought to minimize. They knew that governments don't control things. A government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they know when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. They also knew, those Founding Fathers, that outside of its legitimate functions, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector of the economy."
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