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Antonio Bayle server community is very poor

pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550

When EQ2 came out, I set Antonio Bayle as my main server.  My early experience was one of rude players; folks with little patience for mistakes (which we all make), and just rude, superior attitudes.

I put EQ2 down for several months after launch, mostly because of a dislike in the game design, but the rude community hadn't helped.

Then, bored with WOW, I reactivated my subscription and rerolled a character on the Antonio Bayle server.  First time out selling a book, I was bombarded with tells of ridiculous offers (like 7P) or jeers and teasing.

Logged out and decided that whatever was wrong with EQ2's game design, the community on this particular server is pretty bad.  Certainly not friendly to new people or those restarting.

Anyone else have that experience?  Is Antonio Bayle the home for superior, obnoxious players?

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  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318

    No, actually, I've never had that experience on Antonia Bayle. My experience says they're helpful, fun and polite. However, I chose my home server as Mistmoore because I had friends that play there.

  • delete5230delete5230 Member EpicPosts: 7,081

    I did the vets killed this game !!!

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    Originally posted by pencilrick

    bored with WOW, I reactivated my subscription and rerolled a character on the Antonio Bayle server.  First time out selling a book, I was bombarded with tells of ridiculous offers (like 7P) or jeers and teasing.

    I dont play on Antonia but that does not sound pleasant

     

    what chat channel were you advertising in?  

    OOC?    level1-9?  

     

  • jaestellejaestelle Member Posts: 17

    I just started on AB this week and it's been one of the nicer communities I have come across in an MMO.

  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550

    Originally posted by Nadia


     
    Originally posted by pencilrick

    bored with WOW, I reactivated my subscription and rerolled a character on the Antonio Bayle server.  First time out selling a book, I was bombarded with tells of ridiculous offers (like 7P) or jeers and teasing.

     

    I dont play on Antonia but that does not sound pleasant

     

    what chat channel were you advertising in?  

    OOC?    level1-9?  

     

    It was OOC in Antonica.  Would have viewed it as an isolated incident, were not most of my experiences on that server similar. 

    I'm thinking it's a superiority attitude they've got.  They're level 80 now and that means they get to move out of their mom's basement to a room upstairs; who knows.

  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by pencilrick


     
    Originally posted by Nadia


     
    Originally posted by pencilrick

    bored with WOW, I reactivated my subscription and rerolled a character on the Antonio Bayle server.  First time out selling a book, I was bombarded with tells of ridiculous offers (like 7P) or jeers and teasing.

     

    I dont play on Antonia but that does not sound pleasant

     

    what chat channel were you advertising in?  

    OOC?    level1-9?  

     

    It was OOC in Antonica.  Would have viewed it as an isolated incident, were not most of my experiences on that server similar. 

     

    I'm thinking it's a superiority attitude they've got.  They're level 80 now and that means they get to move out of their mom's basement to a room upstairs; who knows.



    Theres your reason right there.  Some people dont like people trying to sell stuff in OOC, theres a broker for that, but if you must try and sell stuff through chat use the Auction chat channel where it belongs.

  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318

    I'm with Flem. If you were trying to sell something in /ooc most people find that very rude. If you want to sell it, use the broker or the auction channel, don't use /ooc. Though, personally, I turn off the auction channel. If I want to buy something, I buy it off the broker or off a guild member (though guild usually don't charge).

  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798

    even if people find it rude to use OOC for selling,

     

     

    new players (or returning players) are still learning ins and outs of the game

     

    there really is no excuse for heckling the player in tells,

    when giving advice would have helped much more

  • eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984

    I would have taken the 7 plat :P

     

  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550

    Originally posted by Moirae


    I'm with Flem. If you were trying to sell something in /ooc most people find that very rude. If you want to sell it, use the broker or the auction channel, don't use /ooc. Though, personally, I turn off the auction channel. If I want to buy something, I buy it off the broker or off a guild member (though guild usually don't charge).

    Maybe I should have used the auction channel, although in my 9 years of playing MMORPG's, I never found the use of OOC for selling to be rude.

    However, I did cancel EQ2 once again.  Not just because of the community incident, but the game is getting on in years and its time for something new.

    Let 2008 be the year for new MMORPG's for all of us former UO/EQ players living as expatriates in WOW, EQ2 and other games.

  • LyolasLyolas Member Posts: 59

    Originally posted by Nadia


    even if people find it rude to use OOC for selling,
     
     
    new players (or returning players) are still learning ins and outs of the game
     
    there really is no excuse for heckling the player in tells,
    when giving advice would have helped much more

    Aye, this sort of response is not unique to AB nor EQ2. It's everywhere. There is a new social order with its own rules and heaven help the stupid noob who comes into the world unaware of them. You are a stupid noob if you do not somehow inherently understand what is preferred by the general populace in a place you are relatively new to.

    The petty things people become incensed over in MMO worlds have led me to consider playing a solo friendly game and remain unguilded and I am not antisocial by nature. I played a healing class for years and have just become so tired of this kind of thing, hate for not being Jesus when the group screws up, etc. It's just a game and people are so damned petty and mean sometimes it really spoils it.

    It is best to stay out of ooc and general chats and in my opinion it is best to shut them off. Come into the world with RL friends or make them as you go in the game world and communicate with those people. Let the rest of the clowns be mean to each other out of view and earshot. Turn of gen chats for the win.

     

    He who hesitates is lost.

  • AwarewolfAwarewolf Member Posts: 11

    I finally finished building my PC, and I played the game for the first time last night.  I started a Human Conjuror in Qeynos.  I chose the AB server because I heard there was some good roleplay in it, and although I'm not "hardcore" about my RP, I still enjoy staying IC when everyone else is.

    I feel like the freshman in high school again.  Everyone seems to have their own cliques, and I'm the oddball walking around with a big green bug.

    Does the server get more RPish and friendly as you progress in levels?  I need to find myself a good guild, I think I'll go do some research.

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  • KenzeKenze Member UncommonPosts: 1,217


    Originally posted by Awarewolf

    I finally finished building my PC, and I played the game for the first time last night. I started a Human Conjuror in Qeynos. I chose the AB server because I heard there was some good roleplay in it, and although I'm not "hardcore" about my RP, I still enjoy staying IC when everyone else is.
    I feel like the freshman in high school again. Everyone seems to have their own cliques, and I'm the oddball walking around with a big green bug.
    Does the server get more RPish and friendly as you progress in levels? I need to find myself a good guild, I think I'll go do some research.


    although AB is RPPreferred the truth is most are there because its one of the top populated servers. There most definetly is RPing to e found though. Next you are looking for some RP /join rptavern. You can also press U (default key) to bring up a list of guilds recruiting. If you read through some of the description Im sure you can find a guild with your preferred level of roleplaying.

    Watch your thoughts; they become words.
    Watch your words; they become actions.
    Watch your actions; they become habits.
    Watch your habits; they become character.
    Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.
    —Lao-Tze

  • AwarewolfAwarewolf Member Posts: 11

    Sweet, didn't know about the 'u' key.  Thanks for the tip and encouragement!

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  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

    Myself, I am relatively new to EQ2 (going on 6 months), and I have yet to see this type of attitude from anyone...

    Did you by chance check with anyone to see if there were alternate avenues to selling you're item instead of using OOC. Even though the responses may have been rude, maybe there could have been someone who was willing to help.

    I for one have immensely enjoyed the EQ2 community.

    Take care now, and good luck in your future gaming endeavors..

     

  • Peregrine2Peregrine2 Member Posts: 169

    I can't speak for how you were treated, but I have found AB to be an excellent and helpful community in general. Most of the people I know will go out of their way to help a new person. Just last night I was playing a low level alt and saw people asking lots of questions in 1-9 channel and getting a lot of answers. Personally, I'll be glad to answer any question that you have, if I'm around. I'm not sure, but some people don't like to see selling of items in OOC, but they should have told you that politely and not as they did.

  • AwarewolfAwarewolf Member Posts: 11

    I've been playing on AB for a few days now and I must say, I absolutely love the community so far.  My Conjuror is level 14, but I got bored of Qeynos and wanted to see Faydark.  Now my level 8 Warden is having the time of his life.  ;-)

    The 1-9 chat so far has been very mature and enjoyable.  I actually found myself laughing out loud a few times, though I'm not one to participate unless I have a question.  Everyone was more than helpful.

    I guess your mileage may vary.  But I think I'm enjoying my stay on AB and have no plans to leave.

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  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230

    The fact is, every games gamers think their community is more mature than everyones elses.  Yet every games gamers include rude people.  People are people, wherever you go.  If the community truly was nice they would have told you to take it to /auction instead of being rude to you.  Actually, I think the "niceness" of a community comes and goes.  Sometimes they may be kind of obnoxious in the morning, but nicer later that night.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    Originally posted by page


    I did the vets killed this game !!!
    Contrary to popular belief it's the new people from other MMOs who are making it bad.

    I have 12 toons on Antonia Bayle. I wont deny it, some of the players are asshats. However, you can remedy this VERY easily.

    1. Get into a Guild

    2. Turn OFF channel 1-9, 10-19, 20-29, 30-39. 

    3.  Do not accept an invite from Boupouch.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

     

    Originally posted by openedge1


    Myself, I am relatively new to EQ2 (going on 6 months), and I have yet to see this type of attitude from anyone...
    But, it is a known fact that chat 1-9 is the "all" channel...and at times can be Barrens chat.
    Politics, Sex, Discussions of life take place there.
    I figured it out based on my previous MMO experiences and knew to turn off that channel unless I needed help.....
    As to selling in OOC...did you believe the item you had was good? Did you know about the Broker (coming from WoW, I assume you knew what AH was...so, did you maybe try to see if this existed there?)...I know better to check my sources before trying to sell something in any MMO (Guild Wars for example...I would do a price check...)
    I do feel like you wanted to dislike the game, and that does not help in an overall impression.
    Unless of course...you put that little of an effort in other games when it comes to selling items..then, I am sorry that your experience in MMO's hindered your capability to keep an open mind in EQ2.
    Take care now, and good luck in your future endeavors..
     

     

    lol... Good grief, dude.

    The OP is talking about a poor experience with a portion of the population on one server - one which others in this thread have acknowledged does exist. They're also expressing a dislike of an aspect of the game - something surely you can relate to (ie. LoTRO).

    They're not posting an "I'm Quitting" post, bashing on the game. At least, I wouldn't consider noting a dislike of the game's design as "bashing" the game.

    Lighten up.

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

     

    Originally posted by WSIMike


     
    Originally posted by openedge1


    Myself, I am relatively new to EQ2 (going on 6 months), and I have yet to see this type of attitude from anyone...
    But, it is a known fact that chat 1-9 is the "all" channel...and at times can be Barrens chat.
    Politics, Sex, Discussions of life take place there.
    I figured it out based on my previous MMO experiences and knew to turn off that channel unless I needed help.....
    As to selling in OOC...did you believe the item you had was good? Did you know about the Broker (coming from WoW, I assume you knew what AH was...so, did you maybe try to see if this existed there?)...I know better to check my sources before trying to sell something in any MMO (Guild Wars for example...I would do a price check...)
    I do feel like you wanted to dislike the game, and that does not help in an overall impression.
    Unless of course...you put that little of an effort in other games when it comes to selling items..then, I am sorry that your experience in MMO's hindered your capability to keep an open mind in EQ2.
    Take care now, and good luck in your future endeavors..
     

     

    lol... Good grief, dude.

    The OP is talking about a poor experience with a portion of the population on one server - one which others in this thread have acknowledged does exist. They're also expressing a dislike of an aspect of the game - something surely you can relate to (ie. LoTRO).

    They're not posting an "I'm Quitting" post, bashing on the game. At least, I wouldn't consider noting a dislike of the game's design as "bashing" the game.

    Lighten up.

     

    I am unsure of what the point of your post is...

     

    I stated what I felt about his impression was all. I was not rude, or belligerent  and was not hard on him...and there were posts in this thread far worse than mine...so, why pick my post to "grief" about?



    Lets say he played EQ2 in closed beta, open beta, and even 6 months in, and this was a constant issue? (like LOTRO) then I could understand his post.

    The attitudes noted here happens to be in every other game...it is the realm of the MMO. Antonia Bayle just happens to be the fullest server for EQ2, and as such, will have a higher ratio of people who will basically give an attitude...

    His reasoning for trying to sell an item in /ooc is still a mystery...

    But, the OP stated his opinion, and I stated mine...and I am sorry you have difficulties with that. I was not giving grief, and as such deserve none myself.

    Thanks

  • SarykSaryk Member UncommonPosts: 476

    Originally posted by pencilrick


    When EQ2 came out, I set Antonio Bayle as my main server.  My early experience was one of rude players; folks with little patience for mistakes (which we all make), and just rude, superior attitudes.
    I put EQ2 down for several months after launch, mostly because of a dislike in the game design, but the rude community hadn't helped.
    Then, bored with WOW, I reactivated my subscription and rerolled a character on the Antonio Bayle server.  First time out selling a book, I was bombarded with tells of ridiculous offers (like 7P) or jeers and teasing.
    Logged out and decided that whatever was wrong with EQ2's game design, the community on this particular server is pretty bad.  Certainly not friendly to new people or those restarting.
    Anyone else have that experience?  Is Antonio Bayle the home for superior, obnoxious players?
    Is it just me or does this person sound like they are  wanting some sympathy and bashing the game at the same time?

     

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

     

    Originally posted by openedge1

    The attitudes noted here happens to be in every other game...it is the realm of the MMO. Antonia Bayle just happens to be the fullest server for EQ2, and as such, will have a higher ratio of people who will basically give an attitude...
    And they were commenting on those who did. That was the point of their post, commenting on their experience with it.
    His reasoning for trying to sell an item in /ooc is still a mystery...
    In some MMOs the /ooc or its equivalent is commonly used for trade. It's not that unusual really. The OP indicates that this was their experience in other MMOs. Thus, putting why they used it in EQII in perfect context. It's not, as you said it, "putting little effort into learning how to sell things" (which I'll get to soon enough), it's "doing what has been the norm for them in other games".


    But, the OP stated his opinion, and I stated mine...and I am sorry you have difficulties with that. I was not giving grief, and as such deserve none myself.
    You weren't merely giving views, you were making presumptions.
    First that you have the "feeling that they didn't want to like the game". In other words "Well, you probably didn't want to like it anyway, so it doesn't matter what you think of it."
    Since when does there have to be a pre-disposition to dislike something for someone to find flaws in a game or its community? That kind of mindset really  verges on being fanboyish.


    And next, the real zinger...

    "Unless of course...you put that little of an effort in other games when it comes to selling items..then, I am sorry that your experience in MMO's hindered your capability to keep an open mind in EQ2."
    ... Okay. You go from "feeling" that they probably didn't want to like the game anyway to pondering on "how little effort" they may have put into selling items in other games.
    Way to try and spin the topic into something else. They're commenting on a rude portion of the community and their feeling that the game is "getting on in years". You're talking about them "not putting enough effort into selling things". One has nothing to do with the other.
    I happen to agree. It would have been immensely more helpful if people had said "/ooc isn't really the right place to hawk things." and then offer assistance on using the consigners, setting up a sales board in their room, etc.
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    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • openedge1openedge1 Member Posts: 2,582

     

    Originally posted by WSIMike


     
    Originally posted by openedge1
    The attitudes noted here happens to be in every other game...it is the realm of the MMO. Antonia Bayle just happens to be the fullest server for EQ2, and as such, will have a higher ratio of people who will basically give an attitude...
    And they were commenting on those who did. That was the point of their post, commenting on their experience with it.
    His reasoning for trying to sell an item in /ooc is still a mystery...
    In some MMOs the /ooc or its equivalent is commonly used for trade. It's not that unusual really. The OP indicates that this was their experience in other MMOs. Thus, putting why they used it in EQII in perfect context. It's not, as you said it, "putting little effort into learning how to sell things" (which I'll get to soon enough), it's "doing what has been the norm for them in other games".


    But, the OP stated his opinion, and I stated mine...and I am sorry you have difficulties with that. I was not giving grief, and as such deserve none myself.
    You weren't merely giving views, you were making presumptions.
    First that you have the "feeling that they didn't want to like the game". In other words "Well, you probably didn't want to like it anyway, so it doesn't matter what you think of it."
    Since when does there have to be a pre-disposition to dislike something for someone to find flaws in a game or its community? That kind of mindset really  verges on being fanboyish.


    And next, the real zinger...

    "Unless of course...you put that little of an effort in other games when it comes to selling items..then, I am sorry that your experience in MMO's hindered your capability to keep an open mind in EQ2."
    ... Okay. You go from "feeling" that they probably didn't want to like the game anyway to pondering on "how little effort" they may have put into selling items in other games.
    Way to try and spin the topic into something else. They're commenting on a rude portion of the community and their feeling that the game is "getting on in years". You're talking about them "not putting enough effort into selling things". One has nothing to do with the other.
    I happen to agree. It would have been immensely more helpful if people had said "/ooc isn't really the right place to hawk things." and then offer assistance on using the consigners, setting up a sales board in their room, etc.
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    Based on you're post, I have changed my initial post. I have not had this type of attitude from this server, and I am sorry that the OP received treatment like this.

     

    Thank you for kindly pointing out my errors.

    Again OP, I am sorry you're gaming experience was less than satisfactory on AB. Being new to that server I have never received thise type of attitude, and everyone has always been helpful.

    Good luck!

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