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RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253

http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8zQZuuVzwfXYcJ9Oc6x-2gbj6Hg

HD was always over rated and over priced. Those of you around long enough would remember my post on this from like 12 months ago.

How does 4 more pixels and a barely noticable quality difference compete with lower prices and massively more storage ?

Answer.... it doesnt.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    Toshiba officially discontinued HD DVD now.

    www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2008_02/pr1903.htm

     


    Company Remains Focused on Championing Consumer Access to High Definition Content



    TOKYO--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.



    HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.



    "We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop," said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."



    Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.



    Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.



    This decision will not impact on Toshiba's commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.



    Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.


     

  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589

    Finally.

  • hotpiehotpie Member Posts: 191

    well well well

  • MuraisMurais Member UncommonPosts: 1,118

      I wonder what that's going to mean for the 360. Aren't all their game discs on an HD-DVD format?

     

       Ah well. I was hoping Sony would writhe in pain in an agonizingly slow death. Sadly, doesn't look like it's going to happen, even for a disc format that is realistically only marginally better.

     

       In other words, I'm still not upgrading because now I have even more of a reason not to.

  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    the 360 uses a DVD format.  the PS3 uses Blu

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  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by Razorback
    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8zQZuuVzwfXYcJ9Oc6x-2gbj6Hg
    HD was always over rated and over priced. image

    Im going to assume you are refering to HD-DVD here. And if so, then what the hell are you talking about? Most HD-DVD players were/are rougly half the price of Blu-Ray players. And if you are talking about High Definition in general, then yes you are right, it is overrated and over priced. You cannot tell the difference between a DVD and a BRD or HDD on a HDTV, its the same fucking picture. But since you just went out and spent $1000-$2000 on that setup, your mind is making you see what you want to see to justify that money you just blew.

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  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702

    Originally posted by Spathotan


     

    Originally posted by Razorback

    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8zQZuuVzwfXYcJ9Oc6x-2gbj6Hg

    HD was always over rated and over priced.

     

    Im going to assume you are refering to HD-DVD here. And if so, then what the hell are you talking about? Most HD-DVD players were/are rougly half the price of Blu-Ray players. And if you are talking about High Definition in general, then yes you are right, it is overrated and over priced. You cannot tell the difference between a DVD and a BRD or HDD on a HDTV, its the same fucking picture. But since you just went out and spent $1000-$2000 on that setup, your mind is making you see what you want to see to justify that money you just blew.


    no. I see a difference from dvd to blu ray. quite noticeable as well.

    my  42" hd set and ps3 were a gift.

    I like cake.

     

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  • SpathotanSpathotan Member Posts: 3,928


    Originally posted by bluberryhaze
    Originally posted by Spathotan  

    Originally posted by Razorback
    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8zQZuuVzwfXYcJ9Oc6x-2gbj6Hg
    HD was always over rated and over priced.
     
    Im going to assume you are refering to HD-DVD here. And if so, then what the hell are you talking about? Most HD-DVD players were/are rougly half the price of Blu-Ray players. And if you are talking about High Definition in general, then yes you are right, it is overrated and over priced. You cannot tell the difference between a DVD and a BRD or HDD on a HDTV, its the same fucking picture. But since you just went out and spent $1000-$2000 on that setup, your mind is making you see what you want to see to justify that money you just blew.


    no. I see a difference from dvd to blu ray. quite noticeable as well.
    my  42" hd set and ps3 were a gift.
    I like cake.
     

    42" and up is bordernline where the quality difference can be seen, anything smaller and there is no noticable difference in quality, its not arguable period. Its the same go-round argument as 1080i vs 1080p, they are the same damn thing, with 1080p only offering a SLIGHT/BARELY noticable quality increase at 42" and up.

    Since you are 14 and got your stuff as a gift you arent target of my "went out and spent" remark.

    I hate bad post.

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  • bluberryhazebluberryhaze Member Posts: 1,702

    im 34 and have a wife and 2 kids.

    i also used to work for time warner for 7 years repairing and installing cable, highspeed and phone. I am qualified to call you out on that comment.  it was the job i left 3 months ago for political factors. I kept hitting my head on the Union Trap that does not allow a mind to grow and no advancement -once you achieve top pay. stifling. so now i take care of my 9 month old son at home while the wifey makes the mucho money in the big bad corporate world...thats feeds my family. gosh

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  • GodliestGodliest Member Posts: 3,486

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  • NetzokoNetzoko Member Posts: 1,271

    Both of HD formats are a ripoff.

    I'm not paying 30 bucks for a movie that looks slightly better, plus a $500 drive. What a racket, people actually buy that garbage?

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  • hotpiehotpie Member Posts: 191
    Originally posted by Godliest



    rofl!

  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356

    Originally posted by Spathotan
     
    ....... You cannot tell the difference between a DVD and a BRD or HDD on a HDTV.......
    Sure I can, the BRD/HD looks so much clearer when I watch porn on my wide screen  TV   .......oh....wait.....hold that thought.......I just cleaned my screen off.....something sticky was on it....yup....you're right!

     

  • goneglockingoneglockin Member UncommonPosts: 706

    Don't worry.  They'll still make DVDs because no one in their right mind is going to spend money on blueray bullshit.  Eventually you'll be able to pick up a blurray player for like 20 bucks at Wal Mart and the next unneccessary format change will be upon us.

    Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.

  • TheFranchiseTheFranchise Member Posts: 241
    Anyone who can't tell the difference between regular DVD and HDTV either sits 20 feet away from a 32" TV or they need glasses. There is no comparison between 480 and 1080. Even 720 is a big step up. Go search for Avsforum Screenshot War and while looking at the pics remember that they look even better in-person.
  • XeximaXexima Member UncommonPosts: 2,698
    Originally posted by Razorback


    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8zQZuuVzwfXYcJ9Oc6x-2gbj6Hg
    HD was always over rated and over priced. Those of you around long enough would remember my post on this from like 12 months ago.
    How does 4 more pixels and a barely noticable quality difference compete with lower prices and massively more storage ?
    Answer.... it doesnt.

    He lives!  what's it been, a couple of months?

  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

    Originally posted by Xexima

    Originally posted by Razorback


    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8zQZuuVzwfXYcJ9Oc6x-2gbj6Hg
    HD was always over rated and over priced. Those of you around long enough would remember my post on this from like 12 months ago.
    How does 4 more pixels and a barely noticable quality difference compete with lower prices and massively more storage ?
    Answer.... it doesnt.

    He lives!  what's it been, a couple of months?


    I guess the kangaroos they use for internet down there went on strike.

    But anyway i never supported HD Dvd anyway.

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  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    I may sound weird...

     

    But as a customer, I expect my HD to be able to read Blu Ray in the near future since they are discontinued due to direct conflict with Sony, and I hold this responsability to the victor, Sony.

     

    I wouldn't be surprised that Sony doesn't uphold this responsability however.  In the wild west (VHS-Beta era), nobody cares...but...ethic and society evolves...so are responsabilities.  Just don't think Sony evolves yet.

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  • VampirVampir Member Posts: 4,239

    Originally posted by Anofalye


    I may sound weird...
     
    But as a customer, I expect my HD to be able to read Blu Ray in the near future since they are discontinued due to direct conflict with Sony, and I hold this responsability to the victor, Sony.
     
    I wouldn't be surprised that Sony doesn't uphold this responsability however.  In the wild west (VHS-Beta era), nobody cares...but...ethic and society evolves...so are responsabilities.  Just don't think Sony evolves yet.
    thats not gonna happen but in about a year or so you could have antique roadshow apraise you HD player as a useless artifact.

     

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  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by Spathotan


     

    Originally posted by Razorback

    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8zQZuuVzwfXYcJ9Oc6x-2gbj6Hg

    HD was always over rated and over priced.

     

    Im going to assume you are refering to HD-DVD here. And if so, then what the hell are you talking about? Most HD-DVD players were/are rougly half the price of Blu-Ray players. And if you are talking about High Definition in general, then yes you are right, it is overrated and over priced. You cannot tell the difference between a DVD and a BRD or HDD on a HDTV, its the same fucking picture. But since you just went out and spent $1000-$2000 on that setup, your mind is making you see what you want to see to justify that money you just blew.



    The only reason HD-DVD may be cheaper at the moment is because they cant compete with Blu-Ray hence they had to drastically slash their prices to sell some units.  Originally they cost more.  Here in Australia for instance Blu-Ray is outselling HD-DVD by 4 to 1.

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