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VG or EQ2
puddinlover
Member Posts: 30
I am a hard-core wow player point is i downed illidan and i feel that wow just isnt hard-core enough for me.(also way too many kids)
I researched both games a lot but wondering a few things still.
1. Which has better end-game content (raid/boss wise.)
2. Does EQ2 have any form of pvp?
3. Any1 know what is up with VG and loosing a lot of Dev's..... do you think VG is dying/dead?
4. What is the outlook for both?
5. Are both games leveling just .. quest....quest....quest
6. Which has more populated server's?
Overall I want a nice "old-school" type feel, and a game with a very bright (That is my main worry for either game) future, and has lots of endgame content, nice community, leveling doesn't feel like a chore (not be questing all the time mix it up by finding FAST dungeon groups or maybe even something else that will help you gain levels), and a also not everyone looks the same armor wise (huge dislike for me).
Basically iam looking at VG since it is still new and has potential BUT!!! iam afraid that SOE is basically putting it on the backburner/not caring too much about VG (looks like they have alot more resources in Eq2 than VG..), and if that is the case i want a mmorpg that stays fresh has updates and fixes and has a mature and "large" population in-game and if there is no real development behind VG now there is no point to start it but iam not sure that is why i ask.
(Also too if you think there is a game i would like better please do suggest, no i do not want to play a old-school game like daoc ^^, but iam looking for the old school feel kinda.)
*Sorry for repeating myself on some things, just realized that now*
Comments
I have played both, and they are both OK. I would wait tho, as both are on what would be perceived as sinking ships.. I dont think either are still growing, and with conan and war on the near horizon, I would say just wait for now.
AoC, not for a few months and who knows when war is really coming out...
(I am a war man but i dont think i should stop gaming for almost a full year to wait for it)
I really really wish i had a aoc beta, that would keep me interested till aoc.. but i dont.
First of all, I'll say, i played the both and actually I'm playing EQ2. I really like EQ2, But for a hardcore player, the more hardcore I played is Lineage 2. You may give it try. But to choose between this two, I choose EQ2. VG is not finished, despite what peeps say here. The game is still bugged a lot. To give you some help, my comp. is Athlon 64 2,8, 2gb ram, nvidia 7900 gs 256, EQ2 runs fine and Vg does not.
Talking about content, EQ2 for has far more content, if you play the "hardcore way", you will reach endagame soon and you will find only 1 Raid zone in VG, and You have a lot of Raid zones in EQ2 not only at the end, but on the way, some good places at 60, at 70 and at 80. And really good group dungeons at lower levels. And then you have City Task system, who gives you status points, this is like "money" to spend on housing, armors, mounts, items, titles, some of this is only buyable with status points. Ah well and the crafting, easy to learn and... well, grind to level thats true.
Great help!
VG for some reason is saying "play-me" (i played it at very beginning of lunch and only had 1g than i upgraded to 2gigs corsair xms overclocked since, 7900GTO and Duo2 e6400. so i THINK Vg shouldnt be too bad, when i had 1gig on med settings i noticed medium fps if i remember right.. but my crap 1gig ram was holding me back than, also reason i quit was becuase i went back to wow -.-, i just didnt see too many people in VG at that time which turned me off fast, and for EQ2 i tried trial but like i said not sure how the game is after the first few lvls)
but as i stated many times, iam very worried about the state VG is in resource wise.
and also i hated linage 2 with a passion ^^, but ty for the sugestion
Ya, i hope i get a email within a few hours saying i got a aoc or war beta.. BUT that has happened for over a year so not sure why it would now.
Give Vanguard a go.
Don't worry about what resources SOE is throwing at what game, EQII is their flagship and thats not going to change. Although VG has some changes that are making more "friendly" its still a much different game then EQII and other fantasy games.
The problem with not seeing other players is mainly because there are like 13 or 14 starter areas, you need to actually move on before you start hitting a good amount of people. The other issue is most of the pop is higher level, not many new players to hang out with. This creates a bit of a problem when it comes to grouping. You can solo but you miss out on some content. Maybe you will run into other players, who can say? Go on ebay and get the full collectors edition for under 10 dollars, nothing really lost and you get a buddy key or two maybe bring some friends in with you.
You do a lot of questing as it pretty much is a strict PvE game. The nice thing is you can opt to do other things aside from "kill 10 rats" if you get bored. You can always craft or do some diplomacy which is amusing when you need a break. It would be nice if you could do it against other players. I like the diplomacy portion.
I played them both and frankly I would rather stick forks in my eyes then play EQII.
Good luck.
PS - endgame... a dirty word for an MMO player, an actual MMO wouldn't have an "endgame". But Vanguard has raids too...hooray for us. I'm sure SOE will pump in a bunch more, they created the raid mechanic and thrive on it as it keeps the raid minded players who stick with their half-arsed games, happy. SOE dev philosophy is when in doubt, add a raid.
HeHe, nice reply.
um thing yes idk why but the whole VG "flopping" thing bugs me knowing that i might be playing a game that has not devlopment future.
mabey iam just a big baby when it comes to updates and active content and staff behind a game is all
, either way i might sleep on it.
First thing I would do if I were interested in VG is get the heck off this site.
Take a look at tentonhammer, there is an actual community there.
vanguard.tentonhammer.com/
Also, maybe next week there is a big patch for VG happening (GU4) look at the notes for that.
Then if you do get the game make sure you add the Drox UI. That fixes a bunch of the UI issues.
Take a look at this world map just to get an idea how big the scope of this gameworld is...click around on it...
vanguard.gamepressure.com/world_of_telon_map.asp
Ya, i have read alot at ten ton about both games.
Still deciding -.-
1. EQ2 has 8 expansions and raid content built up over years.
2. It has PvP servers and duelling.
3. I tried VG again when I resubbed station access and Its raw, it still feels like an alpha. No idea whats up with losing devs, they might be diverting resources?
4. EQ2 is here to stay, finding a party is not a problem and people are returning after trying other games. Personally I get bored at lvl 50 but someone pvping may have a better experience.
5. EQ2 has a zillion different things to do. You have epic quests that lvl up your guild and count towards mounts. There is 3 different types of skill tree that you can lvl up in advance if you do epic quests instead of xping. Best crafting of any game - people make pure crafting alts. You get crafting double xp in addition to adventure double xp.
6. Vanguard is dead in comparison to an EU EQ2 server. SOE will never drop VG but dont expect any expansions with such a low player base.
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Is EQ2 crafting better than VG, and can u own houses in EQ2 like u can in VG? (not that those 2 things matter alot to me just curious)
any1 have input how lotro is on end-game raiding?
Bump before i goto bed, more input would be lovely (plan to buy a game once i wake up)
REALITY CHECK
Don't go with EQ2 unless you want to be depressed about how much time you put into your character when you learn how to check how many players are on your server one morning. Especially in the pvp servers. Don't know about VG. I'd say do something free like Mabinogi and if you like it let it hold you over until Warhammer, Age of Conan, or a different title, or an open beta of a game like this. I wouldn't give my money to either game, or SOE for that matter.
they keep changing / adding to *all* their online games, including console mmos like EQOA
whether you will LIKE the changes, is a different matter altogether
EQ2 fan sites
EQ2.
I hate to say it, especially since I jumped on both games the day they launched (and was even in the beta for Vanguard)... but EQ2 has a very good community, a healthy in-game market, and just feels very polished and fun.
Vanguard has awesome ideas, a nice complex crafting system, but even after all the bug fixes it still feels fragile. More importantly to me, the community just isn't there. Now, if it can manage to slowly grow a player base, it might turn into a great game, but I don't want to invest my time in that slim chance -- even if the player-crafted boats are cool.
Put it another way... in EQ2, on a weekday at 10am, I can log in and see other players running by, even out in the middle of Nek forest. In Vanguard, I can walk around Martok (the main city on Kojan) at 7pm and I'm shocked if I see anyone else there at all. I don't need to pay a subscription fee to play a single player game.
Although if you also play PotBS, you might just want to get a station pass and then you'd have both EQ2 and VG.
Martok is the main city on Kojan?
Martok is the goblin city and was never that overly popular (goblins as a race). They were popular to people who wanted to play them but not in the broad sense of the term popular.
Now try... Tanvu... and I might agree with you.
I logged into Vanguard yesterday and just now becuase yes.. *gasp* I forgot the name of the city myself and wanted to get it right.
I'm actually suprised that the chat is very active now but then again there is only 4 servers. Last night 3 were actually at "moderate" and the pvp server was "light".
For vanguard that is better population than I have seen in a long... long... time (in fact one could say its better than Tabula Rasa had when I last logged in.. for a comparison to a newer game).
I'd agree that if someoen is already playing potbs... and wants to stay there. They are going to pay $30 for two games anyway.. so the station package for 29.99 and access to all the soe games is more or less.. a no brainer.
If I had to pick one or the other... I'd probably go with EQ2 (I don't really like either as they are both level based games to be honest).
However, as stated a few times... station access gives you access to both if you like some other game like potbs anyway.
Sounds like you're buned out on WoW.
Switching to another WoW type game won't allieviate your burnout. You'll still be doing similar things. Go play RL golf for a month or two, imo.
I agree with everything else you answered completely. But I take special exception to the EQ2ification of VG. I just don't see it happening.
I have heard more people praise the VG crafting system than the EQ2 crafting system.
Yes, you can own an instanced house in EQ2. You walk into the same door everyone else walks into to get to your house. In VG, you 'craft' your own free standing non-instanced house. Just that sentence shows me VG has both better crafting and better housing.
2. EQ2 has PvP servers, where it is Good v. Evil. Vanguard also has PvP servers, but they allow FFA PvP.
3. No idea about Vanguard's Devs. I'm not sure if Vanguard is dead or dying, but when I last played in January, the game was low populated...even on the popular servers. The game had a horrid release and still is only playable by those with beefy computers on a decent graphics setting. This results in a very small community. Besides that, the devs has pissed off a lot of original Vanguard players by taking things away from the game that made it unique. Vanguard Devs are also slow at developing new content and fixing the game.
4. I am not a soothsayer, but judging from past data, I'd say EQ2 has a better chance of longevity than Vanguard does. However, both games feel like they have smallish communities, EQ2 is just a much more stable game.
5. EQ2 is just quest, quest, quest with some group dungeons and raids thrown in there. Vanguard is similar, except it has far fewer quests, a larger explorable world, boats, a diplomacy system, and people actually prefer to group up and just grind on mobs through out the game.
6. EQ2 hands down.
MMORPG's w/ Max level characters: DAoC, SWG, & WoW
Currently Playing: WAR
Preferred Playstyle: Roleplay/adventurous, in a sandbox game.