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Macro Yes/No
Sidhardha
Member Posts: 25
A simple question:
Should hardware macro tools and 3rd party software macros be blocked/prohibited from use or not.
Post Yes/No, and explain your reasons if you like.
Should hardware macro tools and 3rd party software macros be blocked/prohibited from use or not.
Post Yes/No, and explain your reasons if you like.
Comments
Ehhh, I voted yes. Reason is that, from what I read, there is going to combinations of skills and spell weaving. Doesn't such action similar to these require skill, I'd hope so. I don't want to see people's head being chopped off with the extreamly hard combination of spacebar.
Of course "yes", and here is my reason...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheat
The second sentence says it all...
"Cheating characteristically is employed to create an unfair advantage, usually in one's own interest, and often at the expense of others."
I have voted 'yes': in my online time I have experienced too much cheating and boting with 3rd party programs, in my opinion script/macro all you can inside the game but stay there within the limits set by game creators.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=60254
What about keyboards that can record macros such as G15 keyboards?
Are those considered cheating too because it's sure sounds like users of those keyboards will have an advantage in AOC when you look at the combatsystem.
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The devs use the G15, they support health / mana displays for your character / mount / siege weapon stats.
There will be bindings that you can do from that Keyboard or other similar types most likely.
For example there is a guy in my guild with one had, having a shortcut helps him out in games.
Here are some dev quotes on Macros : http://bymitra.com/search/15984
Lol Avery you have articles about everything.
Avery is like a AoC bot, he knows everything...
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I voted no because Macros wont help in combat in the game, so thier is no logical reason to restrict them from other uses like crafting and mounting a horse etc.
Now if you want to see what will have an unfair advantage, its the guys using these-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826169019
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so much for the revolutionary combat system. any combo be it a 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 hit combo can all be macro'd to one button so basically it just like every other mmorpg hit a combo or two and wait for em to refresh. rinse n' repeat
I voted yes, cause i clicked the wrong button. -_-
Anyways, I don't want this to be WoW with click a button and zoooooooom you heal every curse, you change 4 stances and do 10 combo skills and heal yourself and your party.
That goes the same with costum UIs.
In that game you measured threat, had flashy buttons to show you which skill to click, and warning spams across half of your screen yelling something like: "ZOMG ITS TIME TO MOVE AWAY CAUSE BOSS IS CASTING TEH AOE SPELL"
Id like this game to require skill, and not have these programs for **** that cant figure out how to play for them selves and need 12212k programs to their job.
You couldnt go to high end raids with a guild if you said: "I know the bosses and i have the skill to play", but you had to install 3k programs to raid.
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Got it wrong a bit:
Read Athelan's posts here in this thread: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=962084
you have to time pressing the buttons therefore this is something a macro can't do as its real time. You can tell the G15 to wait X amount of seconds before completing the sequence. Plus because its Directional combat you have to face the opponent, and in PvP say if you hit your macro you could still be swinging at mid air half way thru, making it void in this case.
Plus you have to factor in the Dynamic Shielding which the A.I on a monster will change without you knowing or in PvP the opponent near randomly. So there are many factors to consider which won't woke, too many randoms and its not computational because you cant factor in the opponents behaviour because its different each time.
you might be able to set up small macros but really this is just the same as pressing the buttons yourself, except you just take "one press" out of the 'physical doing'.
So essentially you have never played an MMO without a G15? what did you do before?
The keyboard is supported in some ways, but its pointless stacking up 5 combos say for the reasons above. But you might be able to stack one up effectively. G15 will show you health etc on the LED.
The game is designed to be active, thus stacking up / programming in your basic "Auto Attack" "target nearest person" shortcuts and then the functon to do your skill in this game wont be as effective. This is the evolutionary combat. Taking the lazy out of the person and making them more involved in game. For those people with disabilities who rely on macros there will be some support but minimal influence will be gained at best.
And that based on what? Also there is no real difference using g15, nostromo, other kayboard with macro functions or 3rd party macro software - its all functions outside of design concept devs made.
Well THATs pathetic.
Got it wrong a bit:
Read Athelan's posts here in this thread: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=962084
you have to time pressing the buttons therefore this is something a macro can't do as its real time. You can tell the G15 to wait X amount of seconds before completing the sequence. Plus because its Directional combat you have to face the opponent, and in PvP say if you hit your macro you could still be swinging at mid air half way thru, making it void in this case.
Plus you have to factor in the Dynamic Shielding which the A.I on a monster will change without you knowing or in PvP the opponent near randomly. So there are many factors to consider which won't woke, too many randoms and its not computational because you cant factor in the opponents behaviour because its different each time.
you might be able to set up small macros but really this is just the same as pressing the buttons yourself, except you just take "one press" out of the 'physical doing'.
So essentially you have never played an MMO without a G15? what did you do before?
The keyboard is supported in some ways, but its pointless stacking up 5 combos say for the reasons above. But you might be able to stack one up effectively. G15 will show you health etc on the LED.
Actualy you CAN tell G15 and any other macro to wait X time till keypress. Its called Delay. Bah, i wish people would have more knowledge about things they comment on. No offence.
Repeating my statement about you and wikipedia
Got it wrong a bit:
Read Athelan's posts here in this thread: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=962084
you have to time pressing the buttons therefore this is something a macro can't do as its real time. You can tell the G15 to wait X amount of seconds before completing the sequence. Plus because its Directional combat you have to face the opponent, and in PvP say if you hit your macro you could still be swinging at mid air half way thru, making it void in this case.
Plus you have to factor in the Dynamic Shielding which the A.I on a monster will change without you knowing or in PvP the opponent near randomly. So there are many factors to consider which won't woke, too many randoms and its not computational because you cant factor in the opponents behaviour because its different each time.
you might be able to set up small macros but really this is just the same as pressing the buttons yourself, except you just take "one press" out of the 'physical doing'.
So essentially you have never played an MMO without a G15? what did you do before?
The keyboard is supported in some ways, but its pointless stacking up 5 combos say for the reasons above. But you might be able to stack one up effectively. G15 will show you health etc on the LED.
Actualy you CAN tell G15 and any other macro to wait X time till keypress. Its called Delay. Bah, i wish people would have more knowledge about things they comment on. No offence. Repeating my statement about you and wikipedia
Point is proven in the fact that its directional and no auto attack, timings wont work anyway, whether capable or not programming wise. And no I didn't know you could program set times in a combat situation with the G15 thanks for pointing that out. When linking combos you still have to face the person.
As for my AoC knowledge I feel Im pretty clued up on it based on hands on experience.
I'll almost guarantee im more informed than most people too, comparing to Wiki is a joke mate.
Your have to forgive, this topic has been bought up like 20 times in the past 18 months.
There will be guilds who will enforce players to use XYZ add-on because they are too lazy to be focused during combat..I`m ok with some macros which can help players with disabilities but no 3rd party program
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Dont take this the wrong way, but a person that judges a game by its usage of some lame keyboard technology doesnt deserve to play it.
I can see you already whining about tons of other stuff if such a minor thing as key binding on special keyboards makes you unhappy.
Other then that, I think it would be fair to other players that use normal keyboards and cant have their keyboard play for them, that this isnt implemented into the AoC cause it might give you and other players with those keyboards an unfair advantage.
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