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that thing that happened on 911 was a wakeup call

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  • pencilrickpencilrick Member Posts: 1,550
    Originally posted by unconformed


    no matter how we got to that day. no matter who was ultimately responsible. no se apoye la puerta.
    as the industrialized world will leave old tech for new tech this century, the old tech will become more available. a controlled world is the only solution at this point. who better at the wheel than the good ole US of A? no one. none. zip. zilch.  trust me, if Gore would have won the electorate vote, this world would've been in deeper, more troublesome water. you need control. and  bush gave it to you and still to this day, doesnt sway his conviction. that man deserves your humble gratitude for the compelling leadership he has given this world. i know it was fate that had him in office while others plotted 911. and i know that while he 'mortgages your childrens future' economically, he is providing them with the chance to have children of their own.
    i used to be one of them anti new world order cronie conspiralists, but now with children of my own, its nice to push the world in the direction your country wants to push it in.
    its time to fight where these democrats fight. dirty and in the streets. we need to beat back these liberal hordes. they bring far too much emotion to common sense and reason. im done with being polite and correct which is subjective anyways.

    I couldn't agree more, but I also realize that lemmings will be lemmings and you might as well let them march off the cliff, and hope they don't drag you with them.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by unconformed


     


    actually, Osama bin laden did say the american people cannot stand a long bloody war, that we would 'cut and run'  and it appears he was correct.

     

    if only we can run a war with an iron fist and just be done with it.

    What does Osama Bin Laden have to do with the Iraq war?

  • unconformedunconformed Member Posts: 700

    Originally posted by MadAce

    Originally posted by unconformed


     


    actually, Osama bin laden did say the american people cannot stand a long bloody war, that we would 'cut and run'  and it appears he was correct.

     

    if only we can run a war with an iron fist and just be done with it.

    What does Osama Bin Laden have to do with the Iraq war?

    well. for reason of going there to begin with, him alone, nothing. I was kinda replying to oldlady, hence the quote.

    i will add that attention to US GIs being in iraq has made Al queda move there 'front' to iraq and afghanistan. so now, they seem to be fighting armed US forces instead of innocent civilians. I think we successfully splintered their organization. although, I can be having a acid flashback and imagining it all. but i do recall the media mentioning some al queda leaders being blown up and captured there.

    but to answer your goading question. osama had nothing to do with iraq. at its most sleaziest, it was a war of opportunity for republicans and democrats to finally engage a ruthless dictator to slowly shake parts of the world out of the 16th century. hopefully, iraqi civilians will survive the democrat onslaught of cheap, meaningless talk of withdrawal. but again, hope is for obama and his followers.

    chips, dips chains & whips.

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461

    Originally posted by unconformed


     
    Originally posted by MadAce

    Originally posted by unconformed


     


    actually, Osama bin laden did say the american people cannot stand a long bloody war, that we would 'cut and run'  and it appears he was correct.

     

    if only we can run a war with an iron fist and just be done with it.

    What does Osama Bin Laden have to do with the Iraq war?

    I can be having a acid flashback and imagining it all.

    Yes, you are.

     

    There's no way to kill a terrorist organization. Partly because terrorist organizations don't really exist.

  • AmpallangAmpallang Member Posts: 396
    Originally posted by unconformed


    no matter how we got to that day. no matter who was ultimately responsible. no se apoye la puerta.
    as the industrialized world will leave old tech for new tech this century, the old tech will become more available. a controlled world is the only solution at this point. Or perhaps a world where morons who spout simplistic views are denied any real power and are relegated to the internet where they can't do any serious damage who better at the wheel than the good ole US of A? Shockingly, perhaps no one should have control of the world.  Perhaps that is what leads to World Wars, people trying to rule everyone else.  no one. none. zip. zilch.  trust me Why?  On the basis of what credentials should I trust you?  Your post displays poor critical thinking skills, unsupported claims and disturbing levels of hubris, if Gore would have won the electorate vote, this world would've been in deeper, more troublesome water. That is a nifty alternate history crystal ball you have there.  Can you also tell us what it would have been like if the printing press was invented earlier?  you need control. and  bush gave it to you and still to this day, doesnt sway his conviction. When last I checked the other countries of the world still have their sovereignty that man deserves your humble gratitude for the compelling leadership he has given this world. You do realize that he will be gone in a year and has lost most of his international political capitol i know it was fate that had him in office Really?  Well if you say it is it simply must be so and let no others disagree with your unsupported unprovable claims  while others plotted 911. and i know that while he 'mortgages your childrens future' economically, he is providing them with the chance to have children of their own.  Oh gosh what a glorious dream, to live under crushing debt and to have proven to any possible children I might have that any leaders that are elected and which rely so heavily on fear need to be distrusted lest they lead the country into a stupid war.
    i used to be one of them anti new world order cronie conspiralists, So you are now a supporter of "the new world order?" Shall we take down the stars and stripes and put up some more fascist oriented flag instead? but now with children of my own, its nice to push the world in the direction your country wants to push it in.  The way you want the world pushed in and the way the country wants the world pushed in are 2 different things.   This should be blindly obvious as the are many who would disagree with the proposed "control the world" plan.
    its time to fight where these democrats fight. dirty and in the streets  What are we suddenly in the gangs of new york? . we who is we?  Were you suddenly elected the spokesperson for group?  need to beat back these liberal hordes Exactly where do you get the paranoid delusion that there are "liberal hordes" which apparently are assaulting you. they bring far too much emotion  to common sense and reason I see that you are good at projecting your own attributes onto your chosen opponents. im done with being polite and correct and moved onto fascist, paranoid and delusional it would seem which is subjective anyways.

     

    If you are not being responded to directly, you are probably on my ignore list.

  • AmpallangAmpallang Member Posts: 396
    Originally posted by anubisss


    Unconformed is really blueberryhaze..

    Is he?  Damn, I had resolved not to respond to that fool again.  I should have guessed it was him though.  Well one more screen name to not bother with.

    If you are not being responded to directly, you are probably on my ignore list.

  • BigdavoBigdavo Member UncommonPosts: 1,863

    Wow, so the American government sacrificed thousands of marine lives, not to mention all the civilians killed for the SOLE purpose of capturing one single person, that being Osama Bin Laden. Wow he must be hella important!, we need to bring him to justice by sacrifcing the same amount of lives lost in 9/11!

    OP, you're a deluded fool.

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    O_o o_O

  • tylerthedruitylerthedrui Member Posts: 304

    Originally posted by MadAce


     
     
    Yes, you are.
     
    There's no way to kill a terrorist organization. Partly because terrorist organizations don't really exist.
    You can always round them up and kill them.

    I used to live in Peru - there was a serious terror issue there. The government didn't hide behind a fear of being politically reprimanded, and went after the terrorists the old fashioned way.

    Goodbye  Shining Path. I don't know why people seem to think that the Iraq war hasn't killed any terrorists... Then again, I grew up overseas; and therefore have a different perspective.

  • Tuor7Tuor7 Member RarePosts: 982

    What America needs is a final solution to this Muslim problem. I propose that we round up all the Muslims, any one who supports them, and anyone who doesn't love this country the way a true patriot ought. Ship these people to camps, then systematically eradicate them. We can use boxcars to transport them, and set up big ovens and chambers of fatally toxic gases. We can make them bury their own dead, thus saving on labor costs.

    In the end, we will emerge as a stronger country. A cleansed country full of pure patriots and citizens with upstanding morals who love and obey their government.

    This is the only way to achieve peace in our time and end this Muslim menace once and for all.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Originally posted by Tuor7


    What America needs is a final solution to this Muslim problem. I propose that we round up all the Muslims, any one who supports them, and anyone who doesn't love this country the way a true patriot ought. Ship these people to camps, then systematically eradicate them. We can use boxcars to transport them, and set up big ovens and chambers of fatally toxic gases. We can make them bury their own dead, thus saving on labor costs.
    In the end, we will emerge as a stronger country. A cleansed country full of pure patriots and citizens with upstanding morals who love and obey their government.
    This is the only way to achieve peace in our time and end this Muslim menace once and for all.

    Wow, that is truly a horrifying statement, I hope you are just kidding.

    Anyway I will make light of this, as I stated before, the world will end in a Zombie Apocalypse and using this method would make things much worse because you would basically be making more zombies. They in turn would eat and infect all the guards who would do the same to the local population and so on and so on. As we all know, Zombie Apocalypse is almost impossible to contain. Also the militaries of the world, being the rational people they are, would probably try to contain the Zombies by irradiating the surface of the Earth with the glut of unused nuclear weapons around the globe thus insuring the planet is uninhabitable by "living" humans. Nice job.

    So....very bad idea.

  • SpysSpys Member Posts: 111
    Originally posted by Tuor7


    What America needs is a final solution to this Muslim problem. I propose that we round up all the Muslims, any one who supports them, and anyone who doesn't love this country the way a true patriot ought. Ship these people to camps, then systematically eradicate them. We can use boxcars to transport them, and set up big ovens and chambers of fatally toxic gases. We can make them bury their own dead, thus saving on labor costs.
    In the end, we will emerge as a stronger country. A cleansed country full of pure patriots and citizens with upstanding morals who love and obey their government.
    This is the only way to achieve peace in our time and end this Muslim menace once and for all.

    Does the date 1933 remind you of something?

    And why should the USA be on the wheel of world domination!? I like the whole world domination idea but there are better candidate for world domination, The French, The Japanese, Even North korea (well if you want a dictatorship), The Canadians and The Dutch.  Maybe a combination of those will work best.

    If you see the current situation of the USA, you want them to rule the world!? The USA is in a stickier situation since Sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun. 

  • rejadrejad Member Posts: 346

    Originally posted by Tuor7


    What America needs is a final solution to this Muslim problem. I propose that we round up all the Muslims, any one who supports them, and anyone who doesn't love this country the way a true patriot ought. Ship these people to camps, then systematically eradicate them. We can use boxcars to transport them, and set up big ovens and chambers of fatally toxic gases. We can make them bury their own dead, thus saving on labor costs.
    In the end, we will emerge as a stronger country. A cleansed country full of pure patriots and citizens with upstanding morals who love and obey their government.
    This is the only way to achieve peace in our time and end this Muslim menace once and for all.
    You're never going to get your point across if you don't stop being so vague.

  • renstimpy99renstimpy99 Member Posts: 175

     

    Originally posted by Tuor7


    What America needs is a final solution to this Muslim problem. I propose that we round up all the Muslims, any one who supports them, and anyone who doesn't love this country the way a true patriot ought. Ship these people to camps, then systematically eradicate them. We can use boxcars to transport them, and set up big ovens and chambers of fatally toxic gases. We can make them bury their own dead, thus saving on labor costs.
    In the end, we will emerge as a stronger country. A cleansed country full of pure patriots and citizens with upstanding morals who love and obey their government.
    This is the only way to achieve peace in our time and end this Muslim menace once and for all.



    QFT

     Is that you Hitler?

    Clever post Tuor7 I appreciate the irony

  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461

    Originally posted by tylerthedrui


     
    Originally posted by MadAce


     
     
    Yes, you are.
     
    There's no way to kill a terrorist organization. Partly because terrorist organizations don't really exist.
    You can always round them up and kill them.

     

    I used to live in Peru - there was a serious terror issue there. The government didn't hide behind a fear of being politically reprimanded, and went after the terrorists the old fashioned way.

    Goodbye  Shining Path. I don't know why people seem to think that the Iraq war hasn't killed any terrorists... Then again, I grew up overseas; and therefore have a different perspective.

    No you can't round them up and kill them. Because there is no them. If you kill all the people in the current terrorist organizations then new people would start new terrorist organizations.





    The only way to kill terrorism (see IRA) is to allow the ideology which is feeding the terrorism to evolve beyond violence.





    The example you provided me with proves you actually now sh*t about terrorism. There's a massive difference between terrorism and geurilla warfare. The latter is still warfare and might be successfully combated (tho the Americans proved otherwise in Vietnam) with conventional arms.





    Not the case with terrorism.





    Terrorist organizations are anti-organized. They do not have a centralized command structure. They do not have a list of members. They do not and should not apply conventional warfare tactics. They do not have bases.





    And most importantly: Everything a terrorist organization is and has... Is expendable. Its members and its resources.



    This is the core of terrorism. There's simply no one to round up and kill. Except if you kill the entire potential base of population from which can be recruited. And even then. This only enlarges as the ideology becomes more and more justified.





    It's quite simple. Irish people are being oppressed. Irish people form resistance group, most of them existing independently. English cack down on resistance groups. Result is that Irish are being oppressed even more. Resistance is suddenly justified. Base for recruitment enlarges.



    Repeat ad infinitum.





    Palestinian is denied from work and has no basic necessities, and is therefore pissed. Palestinian guy comes together with mates and kills Israeli. Israeli become pissed and crack down on Palestinians. More Palestinians pissed. More terrorist cells and groups. Harder Israeli opression.





    Repeat ad infinitum.





    It doesn't matter under what name terrorism is being conducted.





    I doubt the resurging Shining Path has many (if any) of people who were connected to Shining Path before it was virtually wiped out.



    But yet there are people around who call themselves Shining Path.

     

    "Despite these arrests, Shining Path continues to exist in Peru. On December 22, 2005, Shining Path ambushed a police patrol in the Huánuco region, killing eight.[64] Later that day they wounded an additional two police officers. In response, then President Alejandro Toledo declared a state of emergency in Huánuco, and gave the police the power to search houses and arrest suspects without a warrant. On February 19, 2006, the Peruvian police killed Héctor Aponte, believed to be the commander responsible for the ambush.[65] In December 2006, Peruvian troops were sent to counter renewed guerrilla activity and, according to high level government officials, Shining Path's strength has reached an estimated 300 members.[66] In November 2007, police claimed to have killed Artemio's second-in-command, a guerrilla known as JL.[67]"

     

     

    And that's not even a true terrorist organization. It's just a geurilla "army" with few things in comon with terrorist organizations.

     

     

     

    So in conclusion: "Terrorist organization" is an oxymoron. Hence why you can't combat it with a conventional army.

     

    Shame for those poor American soldiers (no sarcasm) that the American people (the true guilty party) doesn't realize that.

  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396

    Wake up.. call

     

    TEHRAN —  Iranian students are offering rewards totaling a million dollars for the execution of three top Israeli military officers over the deadly strikes on Gaza, and they are encouraging fellow Iranians to donate their kidneys to raise the funds, the student news agency ISNA reported on Monday.

    Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.

  • MotorheadMotorhead Member UncommonPosts: 1,193

    Originally posted by anubisss


    Unconformed is really blueberryhaze..
    I was just about to type that.

     

    And his shtick is still just as lame.

     

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  • Man1acMan1ac Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by Tuor7


    What America needs is a final solution to this Muslim problem. I propose that we round up all the Muslims, any one who supports them, and anyone who doesn't love this country the way a true patriot ought. Ship these people to camps, then systematically eradicate them. We can use boxcars to transport them, and set up big ovens and chambers of fatally toxic gases. We can make them bury their own dead, thus saving on labor costs.
    In the end, we will emerge as a stronger country. A cleansed country full of pure patriots and citizens with upstanding morals who love and obey their government.
    This is the only way to achieve peace in our time and end this Muslim menace once and for all.

    How about the government rounds up all the people like yourself and the OP and pour boiling water down your throats so you can never speak again, and perhaps chop your hands of so you can never type again. Seriously, you really believe the simplicity of the 9/11 event? You seriously need to open your eyes and ears, instead of opening that mouth.

    We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.

  • ZoOoOZoOoO Member Posts: 93

    "Finally" a Neoliberalist government did show what they are capable to achieve, if they are in charge of a  country as vast and rich as EEUU,  those 8 years, Bush administration showed to anyone willing to lisen/read what  lies behind of one of the most  brutal ideology the man has ever suffered.

     Is time to move on, and start to the heal the wounds, that many gready politicians inflicted upon us.

     Peace.

     

     

     

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  • LuckyCurseLuckyCurse Member Posts: 394

     

    Originally posted by Man1ac


     
    Originally posted by Tuor7


    What America needs is a final solution to this Muslim problem. I propose that we round up all the Muslims, any one who supports them, and anyone who doesn't love this country the way a true patriot ought. Ship these people to camps, then systematically eradicate them. We can use boxcars to transport them, and set up big ovens and chambers of fatally toxic gases. We can make them bury their own dead, thus saving on labor costs.
    In the end, we will emerge as a stronger country. A cleansed country full of pure patriots and citizens with upstanding morals who love and obey their government.
    This is the only way to achieve peace in our time and end this Muslim menace once and for all.

     

    How about the government rounds up all the people like yourself and the OP and pour boiling water down your throats so you can never speak again, and perhaps chop your hands of so you can never type again. Seriously, you really believe the simplicity of the 9/11 event? You seriously need to open your eyes and ears, instead of opening that mouth.

    It is amazing how many people didn't get the sarcasm in the Tuor7 post.  You simpletons.  Probably the same people who watch sitcoms and think they are dramas.

     

    Thanks for a great post Tuor7,

     - LC

  • unconformedunconformed Member Posts: 700

    Originally posted by frodus


    Wake up.. call
     
     
    TEHRAN —  Iranian students are offering rewards totaling a million dollars for the execution of three top Israeli military officers over the deadly strikes on Gaza, and they are encouraging fellow Iranians to donate their kidneys to raise the funds, the student news agency ISNA reported on Monday.
    these heads in the sand types don't realize there is a war. they will sit on their hands until its time to kneel to mecca.

    bluberryhaze is always on point. others who chastise him, are on spoon. yea baby!

     

    chips, dips chains & whips.

  • SioBabbleSioBabble Member Posts: 2,803

    Originally posted by unconformed


     
    Originally posted by frodus


    Wake up.. call
     
     
    TEHRAN —  Iranian students are offering rewards totaling a million dollars for the execution of three top Israeli military officers over the deadly strikes on Gaza, and they are encouraging fellow Iranians to donate their kidneys to raise the funds, the student news agency ISNA reported on Monday.
    these heads in the sand types don't realize there is a war. they will sit on their hands until its time to kneel to mecca.

     

    bluberryhaze is always on point. others who chastise him, are on spoon. yea baby!

     

    Yes, yes, I suppose you'll continue to bravely fight this war from your keyboard, urging others to take the actual physical risk, much like your heroes, the deserter and the draft dodger, safely in their DC abodes counting their money.

    CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.

    Once a denizen of Ahazi

  • goneglockingoneglockin Member UncommonPosts: 706

    Thanks for the hugz.  : )  Feeling a lil better now that my dayz off are here.  You know what I need?  I need a kitty.  I love cats.

    Hope you got your things together. Hope you are quite prepared to die. Looks like we're in for nasty weather. ... There's a bad moon on the rise.

  • unconformedunconformed Member Posts: 700

    Originally posted by SioBabble


     
    Originally posted by unconformed


     
    Originally posted by frodus


    Wake up.. call
     
     
    TEHRAN —  Iranian students are offering rewards totaling a million dollars for the execution of three top Israeli military officers over the deadly strikes on Gaza, and they are encouraging fellow Iranians to donate their kidneys to raise the funds, the student news agency ISNA reported on Monday.
    these heads in the sand types don't realize there is a war. they will sit on their hands until its time to kneel to mecca.

     

    bluberryhaze is always on point. others who chastise him, are on spoon. yea baby!

     

     

    Yes, yes, I suppose you'll continue to bravely fight this war from your keyboard, urging others to take the actual physical risk, much like your heroes, the deserter and the draft dodger, safely in their DC abodes counting their money.

    hey smartass sit back down on that spoon. im doing the best i can here. doing my best in the hopes that one person, just one, does not get swayed by all these crazy rampant proofless conspiritorial accusations from the new fad of HATE AMERICA and REPUBLICANS. that is the war im fighting. bravely, i might add...these are hostile forums full of lies and deceit...and probably STDs

     

    chips, dips chains & whips.

  • LuckyCurseLuckyCurse Member Posts: 394

     

    Originally posted by unconformed


     
    Originally posted by SioBabble


     
    Originally posted by unconformed


     
    Originally posted by frodus


    Wake up.. call
     
     
    TEHRAN —  Iranian students are offering rewards totaling a million dollars for the execution of three top Israeli military officers over the deadly strikes on Gaza, and they are encouraging fellow Iranians to donate their kidneys to raise the funds, the student news agency ISNA reported on Monday.
    these heads in the sand types don't realize there is a war. they will sit on their hands until its time to kneel to mecca.

     

    bluberryhaze is always on point. others who chastise him, are on spoon. yea baby!

     

     

    Yes, yes, I suppose you'll continue to bravely fight this war from your keyboard, urging others to take the actual physical risk, much like your heroes, the deserter and the draft dodger, safely in their DC abodes counting their money.

    hey smartass sit back down on that spoon. im doing the best i can here. doing my best in the hopes that one person, just one, does not get swayed by all these crazy rampant proofless conspiritorial accusations from the new fad of HATE AMERICA and REPUBLICANS. that is the war im fighting. bravely, i might add...these are hostile forums full of lies and deceit...and probably STDs

     

     



    If that is true then you might want to look into your methods of argument.  It isn't enough to have the facts (as you interpret them) or the greatest idea in the whole wide world.  You need to couch it in rhetoric that persuades and appeals.  As is, I just want to gloat over your inabilities and laugh as you fail.  Of course, I still think you're posting facetiously, so oh well.  Bluntly: The other side is doing it better.

     

    - LC

     

  • Tuor7Tuor7 Member RarePosts: 982


    Originally posted by LuckyCurse
     
    It is amazing how many people didn't get the sarcasm in the Tuor7 post.  You simpletons.  Probably the same people who watch sitcoms and think they are dramas.
     
    Thanks for a great post Tuor7,
     - LC

    Thank you.

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