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Thinking of trying LOTRO again

I cancelled my subs. about 5-6 months ago and have been MMO free the whole time. I heard there was some new stuff in LOTRO. Book 12 released, and 13 coming this month? Mines of Moria and all that. I read about it on WarCry.

In page 2 Jeffrey Steefel says:

 

Basically it's the whole reason for having deeds and traits and titles on top of your normal XP curve, so that you've got a lot of different levers to pull that all act together to create your pill. It's interesting - it's taken a while for traditional MMO players to get used to having that much choice.

 

The reason I quit a while back was that there was not much choice to be made and the game was so simple it got boring in the end. How many of you feel that there is alot of choises? I used to play SWG and compared to that LOTRO is as simple as it gets.

I'm again thinking of trying the game. How much has it improved since book 11? Has Champion been fixed yet? Any changes to crafting? (My only character was dwarf champion level 50, metalsmith)

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  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771

    LOTRo excels in game story telling, in the environment, in the ME world.  In that aspect its unmatched by any other games out there.  The game is among the most polished and bug free.  The graphics is great.

    The game is not as complex as many others, the character development department is relatively simpler.  End game content is slightly weaker.  Indeed one will feel bored if he raced to the end too fast, and does not enjoy fooling around ME for the sake of exploring it.  Unless you enjoy PVMP for its own sake.

    Book 12 and 13 I do not know, I stopped loggin in long before you quit.  Moria is coming, and I will return to explore when there are enough chunks of new world to explore.  Think of it this way, LOTRo is an electronic version of ME make by someone based on the Ring timeline of ME.  We are there to relive the legend and the lore, not to be a big level XX waving the sword of no return.

  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    LOTRO is a quality game, and there has definitely been some stuff added in the last 6 months.

     

    Right now, I am battling boredome with the game though.  I just can't seem to get motivated to log in.  Part of the problem I think lies with the fact that I hit max level awhile back and I have my gear and now what...I grinded deeds and traits for awhile.  Crafting I don't like in this game.  I'm not an alt person, even though I did make a couple.  My character seems at a stand still.  I like to see an experience bar and feel like I'm advancing toward something.  I thought PVE would be it, but after awhile it seemed silly to me for some reason I can't put my finger on.  I think I prefer open world pvp, maybe that's it.

     

    I probably will try and stick it out until the next publish and see what's up.  Maybe I will cancel sooner than that just because I am so bored.  Not sure.  All the other major mmo's I've played though and I can't think of any I would like to go back to.  Quite a dilemna.

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771

    Originally posted by Terranah


    LOTRO is a quality game, and there has definitely been some stuff added in the last 6 months.
     
    Right now, I am battling boredome with the game though.  I just can't seem to get motivated to log in.  Part of the problem I think lies with the fact that I hit max level awhile back and I have my gear and now what...I grinded deeds and traits for awhile.  Crafting I don't like in this game.  I'm not an alt person, even though I did make a couple.  My character seems at a stand still.  I like to see an experience bar and feel like I'm advancing toward something.  I thought PVE would be it, but after awhile it seemed silly to me for some reason I can't put my finger on.  I think I prefer open world pvp, maybe that's it.
     
    I probably will try and stick it out until the next publish and see what's up.  Maybe I will cancel sooner than that just because I am so bored.  Not sure.  All the other major mmo's I've played though and I can't think of any I would like to go back to.  Quite a dilemna.
    I can understand your position.  I felt bored too, big time.  So I gave the game a break.  Maybe after they open the map all the way to Mordor there will be lots of places to explore.

    Good thing I am a lifetimer, so I do not need to worry about when to cancel.  And as a non achiever in game, I care not whether I am the last to hit level XX.

  • Katashi-kunKatashi-kun Member Posts: 517

    Kinda getting there myself too, as I'm not a PvMP player, nor do I like to raid or do CD, and URU much.  Pretty much stick with the PvE, Storylines and Crafting mostly.  I used to play alts, but then that got boring and decided to focus all my attention on one char with the 2 books and Moria coming out soon.  I'd like to try and get all of Eriador complete so I can focus all my time on Moria.

    I'm currently almost done with all that PvE soon!  I just recently in past few weeks took the time and completed every single deed in every zone thus far except Haudh Iarchith {the Bree Reputation Dungeon} which I'm working on now.......only 3 more deeds to finish.  2 of which are on Adv now!

    I also have been working heavily on getting Kinship rank on all reputations.  So far I have 5/7 at Kinship, Bree is sitting on 1/2 way through friend, and Annuminas is at beginning of Ally.  Almost done there...maybe another week or 2.

    After that....prolly go find and complete every quest in the game I skipped or never got around to since there are so many that get skipped over on 1 char.  Ah and also finish getting Grand Master Tailor, need like 800 more points to complete that....

     

     

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  • IllyrianIllyrian Member Posts: 300

    Each and every game, MMO's included, has a finite amount of content and sooner or later you will pass through all or most of it. Your mileage may wary but that is how it goes.

    There are some exceptions in concept in games like EVE but the sandbox conept has its flaws and it obviously doesn't appeal to the majority of players. Kindly spare me "EVE roxxorz" comments, I am not interested in discussing relative merits of EVE.

    Personally I never played an MMO withotu taking a break for one reason or the other. Due to the enjoyment I get out of LOTRO I am willing to pay (rather low) sub of $10 a month even if I am logging in rarely.

    It is a normal cycle for a gamer. Step back and, if you feel like it, come back later. That is my approach as I am not a big fan of MMO hopping every 6 months, it gets expensive and really degrades socialising and character build up. I know some people are doing it but for me it is just a pointless constant race after the next carrot.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by Master_Ping


    I cancelled my subs. about 5-6 months ago and have been MMO free the whole time. I heard there was some new stuff in LOTRO. Book 12 released, and 13 coming this month? Mines of Moria and all that. I read about it on WarCry.
    In page 2 Jeffrey Steefel says:
     
    Basically it's the whole reason for having deeds and traits and titles on top of your normal XP curve, so that you've got a lot of different levers to pull that all act together to create your pill. It's interesting - it's taken a while for traditional MMO players to get used to having that much choice.

     

    The reason I quit a while back was that there was not much choice to be made and the game was so simple it got boring in the end. How many of you feel that there is alot of choises? I used to play SWG and compared to that LOTRO is as simple as it gets.

    I'm again thinking of trying the game. How much has it improved since book 11? Has Champion been fixed yet? Any changes to crafting? (My only character was dwarf champion level 50, metalsmith)

    To be honest, if those the the reason you quite, then quite frankly you won't like the game now.

    It's not really different. It has more quests, the outfit system and housing. However, it plays exactly the same as before. So, again, if those are your reasons I would just save the money and look for something else.

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  • roamieroamie Member Posts: 115

    The problem about LotR is that its gameplay is not hectic, which does not mean that it is boring. Its not dramatic nor it is exhausting. Its a good game which has never been a place for hc gamers.

  • Katashi-kunKatashi-kun Member Posts: 517
    Originally posted by roamie


    The problem about LotR is that its gameplay is not hectic, which does not mean that it is boring. Its not dramatic nor it is exhausting. Its a good game which has never been a place for hc gamers.

    Says you...I'm a hardcore gamer and love it!  Hectic can be fun in certain settings but its not necessary.  I spend like 12+ hrs a day playing MMOs, and currently LOTRO is my project!

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  • DragonOakDragonOak Member Posts: 322

    Originally posted by roamie


     Its a good game which has never been a place for hc gamers.

    Oh.......oh.......oh my gawd, I love that quote.  You better copyright that one! 

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by Katashi-kun

    Originally posted by roamie


    The problem about LotR is that its gameplay is not hectic, which does not mean that it is boring. Its not dramatic nor it is exhausting. Its a good game which has never been a place for hc gamers.

    Says you...I'm a hardcore gamer and love it!  Hectic can be fun in certain settings but its not necessary.  I spend like 12+ hrs a day playing MMOs, and currently LOTRO is my project!

    Actually I think his statment holds up. I believe the timbre of his statement is that for those people who are hardcore who are looking for a hardcore experience, LOTRO is not going to suffice.

    And quite frankly that is true. It's easy to level, money is not a huge problem, there really is no huge reason to "keep up" with anyone else, etc.

    So essentially, a redefinition would be "LoTRO is not a Hardcore MMO in the tradition of Hardcore MMO content".

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  • GalaxoGalaxo Member UncommonPosts: 389

    Welcome back !

     

  • Master_PingMaster_Ping Member Posts: 6

     

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    To be honest, if those the the reason you quite, then quite frankly you won't like the game now.

    It's not really different. It has more quests, the outfit system and housing. However, it plays exactly the same as before. So, again, if those are your reasons I would just save the money and look for something else.

    Ok, thanks for the info. Don't know if I'm really a hardcore player though. I play games about 5-25 hours a week if theres anything to play. At the moment I haven't had anything to play for few months.

    Guess I'll have to wait for AoC or something else that is coming soon.

  • Katashi-kunKatashi-kun Member Posts: 517

    Originally posted by Sovrath


     
    Originally posted by Katashi-kun

    Originally posted by roamie


    The problem about LotR is that its gameplay is not hectic, which does not mean that it is boring. Its not dramatic nor it is exhausting. Its a good game which has never been a place for hc gamers.

    Says you...I'm a hardcore gamer and love it!  Hectic can be fun in certain settings but its not necessary.  I spend like 12+ hrs a day playing MMOs, and currently LOTRO is my project!

     

    Actually I think his statment holds up. I believe the timbre of his statement is that for those people who are hardcore who are looking for a hardcore experience, LOTRO is not going to suffice.

    And quite frankly that is true. It's easy to level, money is not a huge problem, there really is no huge reason to "keep up" with anyone else, etc.

    So essentially, a redefinition would be "LoTRO is not a Hardcore MMO in the tradition of Hardcore MMO content".

    Well I suppose, but LOTRO still attracts the HC crowd because of the lore, and its really just a very enjoyable experience.  It doesn't get boring like so many others cause the world is so well detailed and varied. 

    Easy leveling and easy gold are getting annoying though.....seems all new MMOs are headed that direction!  I don't like money dropping from beasts and undead.  Should only be from humanoid type mobs....maybe a small amount from rats since they're scavengers.  Ah well, gotta start adapting to easy-made MMOs since the world keeps getting more dumb and tons of new players that can't read.

     

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by Katashi-kun


     
    Originally posted by Sovrath


     
    Originally posted by Katashi-kun

    Originally posted by roamie


    The problem about LotR is that its gameplay is not hectic, which does not mean that it is boring. Its not dramatic nor it is exhausting. Its a good game which has never been a place for hc gamers.

    Says you...I'm a hardcore gamer and love it!  Hectic can be fun in certain settings but its not necessary.  I spend like 12+ hrs a day playing MMOs, and currently LOTRO is my project!

     

    Actually I think his statment holds up. I believe the timbre of his statement is that for those people who are hardcore who are looking for a hardcore experience, LOTRO is not going to suffice.

    And quite frankly that is true. It's easy to level, money is not a huge problem, there really is no huge reason to "keep up" with anyone else, etc.

    So essentially, a redefinition would be "LoTRO is not a Hardcore MMO in the tradition of Hardcore MMO content".

     

    Well I suppose, but LOTRO still attracts the HC crowd because of the lore, and its really just a very enjoyable experience.  It doesn't get boring like so many others cause the world is so well detailed and varied. 

    Easy leveling and easy gold are getting annoying though.....seems all new MMOs are headed that direction!  I don't like money dropping from beasts and undead.  Should only be from humanoid type mobs....maybe a small amount from rats since they're scavengers.  Ah well, gotta start adapting to easy-made MMOs since the world keeps getting more dumb and tons of new players that can't read.

     


    Actually, as a nice change of pace, money only drops from humanoids in LOTRO.

    I remember when I was showing some friends Lineage 2. I killed a flower creature and of course gold dropped. One of my friends looked at me with a confused look and asked "why did gold just drop from that creature's butt"?

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  • dragonacedragonace Member UncommonPosts: 1,185

    Originally posted by Katashi-kun


     


    Easy leveling and easy gold are getting annoying though.....seems all new MMOs are headed that direction!  I don't like money dropping from beasts and undead.  Should only be from humanoid type mobs....maybe a small amount from rats since they're scavengers.  Ah well, gotta start adapting to easy-made MMOs since the world keeps getting more dumb and tons of new players that can't read.
     
    In LoTRo money ONLY drops from humanoid mobs.  Undead are considered humanoid though; beasts are not.  I suppose the undead is kinda a "grey" area on whether they are humanoid or not.  At one time at least, the undead were humanoid. 

     

    The rats most definitely do NOT drop coin in LoTRo.  The animals drop... animal parts.  Things like hides (resource for tailoring), tails, feet, claws, stomachs, intestines, heads, legs, feathers, skin, fur, teeth, eyes, beaks, mandibles, shells, etc.  (All of which may be of a kind which is usable in the critical crafting process).

  • CerionCerion Member Posts: 1,005

    Originally posted by Master_Ping


    I cancelled my subs. about 5-6 months ago and have been MMO free the whole time. I heard there was some new stuff in LOTRO. Book 12 released, and 13 coming this month? Mines of Moria and all that. I read about it on WarCry.
    In page 2 Jeffrey Steefel says:
     
    Basically it's the whole reason for having deeds and traits and titles on top of your normal XP curve, so that you've got a lot of different levers to pull that all act together to create your pill. It's interesting - it's taken a while for traditional MMO players to get used to having that much choice.

     

    The reason I quit a while back was that there was not much choice to be made and the game was so simple it got boring in the end. How many of you feel that there is alot of choises? I used to play SWG and compared to that LOTRO is as simple as it gets.

    I'm again thinking of trying the game. How much has it improved since book 11? Has Champion been fixed yet? Any changes to crafting? (My only character was dwarf champion level 50, metalsmith)

    I guess you'd have to define "Improved".  Overall, yes the game has improved, and gets better with each patch.  But one typically expects that from an MMO.

    As far as choices...I find the number of choices adequate. I'm not as convinced as Jeffry is that the amount of choices are boggling to players. I mean, he is right to an extent. LOTRO has a wide breadth of choices, some more meaningful than others.  What it lacks is depth in those choices. Now don't get me wrong, I'm still having fun in LOTRO, but sooner or later I hope Turbine starts to build on the foundation that they've created. Systems such as housing offer choice, but have limited impact on the character.

    Heck, Turbine knows how to deliver meaningful choice -- DDO has one of the best character and combat systems in the MMO industry, and that is due by and large to  the freedom of player choice.

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  • RymdkejsarenRymdkejsaren Member Posts: 78

    Well.

    [quote]Basically it's the whole reason for having deeds and traits and titles on top of your normal XP curve, so that you've got a lot of different levers to pull that all act together to create your pill. It's interesting - it's taken a while for traditional MMO players to get used to having that much choice.[/quote]

    UO has choice. LotRO is just a level/class grind.

    Don't go back, just wait for something better to come out. I resubbed a while ago and regretted it almost as much as I regret buying the game.  Now I'm waiting for a good game to come out, where you can make your own builds and not stick to the ones the developers made. Darkfall Online and Earthrise are the only promising mmos I know of at the moment. Until they release, or something else comes along, I am sticking with other types of games.

     

  • OrthedosOrthedos Member Posts: 1,771

    I was once hardcore, I made 5 max-level max-crafting alts within a few months, and clearing most of the quests, raids whatever.  LOTRo was as good a game for me as any other games can be, during those day.  Those dark days of my life where I cannot go out of the house due to personal issues.

    LOTRo is a good game, its more immersive than some other rival products (like WoW, no flaming) b/c it has a storyline, one I know, and Turbine is quite honest in following the story through.  They spent so much effort in the terrains that walking around the map is in itself a big great journey.  That alone is worth all the hours spent, and well worth the lifetime payment, as a subscription to the right to look at the ever expanding world they will roll out.  Hats off to Turbine.

    I am among those who left the game for now.  I do not take that as an indication of any serious problem with the game.  I do not have the urge to log on now, but still I recognise LOTRo as one of the best produced game now available in the market.  It might not be for everyone, but it is a manifestation of technique finese at its best.

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