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Another vanguard?
redbug
Member UncommonPosts: 175
I have not actually played this game, but I have read tons of forum post and I gotta admit I'm more than a little worried about prepurchasing this game. Pretty much all of the reviews say that AoC looks great but the bugs arent out of the system yet. Sure, a new game has buggs but how annoying are they? How often are they going to update the servers and for how long?
I get the impression Min. specs barely boot the intro and rec. specs are good for low end / low population play. What setup do we really need for this game?
How can someone jumping two feet in the air around you (Bunny Hopping) screw up a combo? I bet if I kicked conan in the nads in mid air hed stop jumping, are they gonna add a combo starter move that grounds the spastic hoppers? I gotta idea, why not 1/2 the players defense or make them receive a auto crit in mid air, I mean how the hell is he able to maintain his defensive stance in mid air anyway?
Why are peopel freezing and becoming invunerable? Map glitches are the worst. Why do you go to the login screen when you /camp out? Please tell me the (CUT) scenes someone was raving about how much they loved are bypassable ! Watching that crap puts me to sleep.
Is this another vanguard? I would rather wait another few months for release if it is. Thank god I know better than to cancel my subscriptions I currently have. Don't get me wrong, I hope like hell after spending 90 odd dollars that this game rocks, but it certainly seems like another game is being put out to early like the last mesiah was.
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Bunny hopping as a pvp tactic?
The insta respawn in pvp city raids already caused me to loose intrest. If bunny hopping is a pvp tactic no way will I waiste my time.
When they release a free trial I would check it out but no way am I going to spend 1 cent till I can try it.
SHOHADAKU
Not sure why you're concerned about this. I think its impossible for a person to bunny-hop around and attack, considering there's no auto-attack in the game that'll trigger so long as its on like other MMOs.
Any person bunny hopping around is just...a duck getting destroyed I imagine. I can't say I've ever seen a person doin' it yet.
I'm a bunny-hoppin' addict in other games, and haven't felt compelled to do it in this one since positioning for combos isn't always so easy.
There's also collision detection.
If that's a bug, I haven't seen it yet myself. So its nothing systemic.
Also you can toggle cut scenes to either always skip, prompt you on whether or not you want to watch, or auto-play.
No its not another Vanguard, but no need to feel compelled to play immediately at launch. The only reason you ever should is if you feel the urge to be one of the first players playin'...otherwise you don't owe Funcom your presence on day one. So no reason to debate with yourself about whether or not you should if it isn't already clear.
Sepher, thanks for the info. Damn glad to hear your thoughts on this post. VG really screwed me and alot of other people over by releasing to soon so I guess im a little gun shy.
who are you trying to kid , you played a couple tiny instanced battlegrounds ment for 12 people its not going to tell you one thing about the game as a whole
this poll is pathetic.
AoC is no VG.
Plus, let me remind you that the so-called "beta" from this weekend was a couple of mini-games based on an old client build.
Kind of like one of those cheap demos you'd download off the 'net, with 90% of the features turned down, or off, to reduce the download size.
The whole point was a BALANCE test. See which classes and abilities that WERE shown need a boost or a nerf.
Really, I could care less how many of you clowns were in-game on release...you'll end up there eventually anyway, feeling like a fool when the game ROCKS YOUR FACE OFF.
Way better than any beta I've been in. It's a blast. For the people it works flawlessly on it is ready to launch today. Unfortunately everyone doesnt have the optimum setup so thats where they are currently lacking. If you dont have a narrow set of specs, your going to have problems. If your lucky, hell yes this thing rocks. I havent had this much fun in an MMO since DAOC. I beta'd vanguard.. and well AOC still beats Vanguard to this day in stability for me.
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Hell yeah, another vanguard
Omg The guy above me didn't played UO
hi
No way in hell this is another vanguard!
"Negaholics are people who become addicted to negativity and self-doubt, they find fault in most things and never seem to be satisfied."
^MMORPG.com
aoc is not going to be like vanguard
it will be worse then vanguard.
the game is not ready it is not even near to ready. the game needs about 1 and a half years of more work on it. it also needs the level system to be killed and go to a skill based system. the naked people and blood need to be taken out as fc will get sued for having that in aoc. and the pvp system needs an overhaul as well.
also a few alpha classes would not hurt. maybe a mage lord or something.
Not vanguard but definately not perfect either. Hope it can be ready for the 20th . As far as rocking the MMO world that i don t know
who are you trying to kid , you played a couple tiny instanced battlegrounds ment for 12 people its not going to tell you one thing about the game as a whole
I doubt when I reach level 30, suddenly the game will be divided up into chunks that crash me, and hitching all over becomes a class feature.
Ever hear of "core gameplay"? It's pretty important and telling about the capabilities of a game, moreso than whether or not my UI text reads Level 20 or 80.
Here ya go Read up on it.. heres a little google search i linked for ya.. "Google is a very powerful tool"
www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp
To iwantmyswg:
You start to sound like a broken record now. You have to realize that this is a product. It has features that you and others may like, or may not. It is obvious that it does not have the features you like. That does not automatically make it a failure.
Vanguard is a good game. It was not the concept that hurt it, it was the game-breaking bugs. It is still very much alive and growing in numbers at the moment. It's nowhere near where it could have been if the game-breaking bugs were not in the game, but that's another story.
You are not the authority on the completion of a game, neither is anyone else on these boards. The developers are (or the marketing people, depending on the company). Whether we agree with their assessment of completion, is another issue as well. But they have the final say on what's ready or not.
The naked people and blood is here to stay. If you don't like it, you can exercise your free will and avoid buying the game. Even if you do decide to buy the game, these things are toggle enabled, thus they can be disabled. AoC will not get sued and the boards have already decided on the M rating on both continents (US & EU).
PvP system is what it is. It's not going to change at this stage, it's too late for that. All they can do at this point is make more intuitive the selection of shielding in PvP. It all comes down to personal preference. You may not like it, others do.
As for the alpha classes, I just love how many people on these boards wave the flag of innovation (of lack of), yet they are still stuck in 10+ years old game designs and refuse to acknowledge that someone somehow can actually attempt something different and it might actually work. Aren't you tired with the holy trinity syndrome already? (tank, healer, dps). Why would you want to get yourself stuck in a box design of an alpha class, when hybrids are the future? They are tons harder to balance for sure, and that's the main reason you don't see them a lot out there. But then again, you don't see skill based games out there either.
Please accept that disliking a game doesn't make it a failure. I dislike Maple story but it's a big success. It's all a matter of opinion. Some people lack the maturity to realize that having a strong one does not automatically make it a fact, or a universal truth.
very, very well said.
i 2nd that as well.. Very well said mate!!
Could this game use more time? ALL games could use more time. Very hard to say until release and people get to 40 with the NDA lifted. People have not been able to comment on battle keeps, crafting, and end game pvp yet. Only time will tell if this game is ready. Saying that, I was in Vanguard's beta for 15 months prior to release. This game is light years of Vanguard at release, but I don't know if it is complete. The AoC you got to play at DragonCon last year, that was more like Vanguard's launch.
The only fear I have left for AoC is it an MMOG that is feature complete like at launch or are there a lot of high end features missing and we just don't know yet. In other words, will this play like LotRO or DDO? I guess will know when the NDA is dropped or May 17, which ever comes first.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
ow please
if u want alpha classes or skill based system go to the game that offer it, screw 100% skill based tbh. Just because a game doesnt have the stuff u want it to have then why are u still here?
@redbug your system is ok, but the processor might need a upgrade.
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
Really? The duo 1.8 processor and not the vid card? Really? Damn I would have to buy a new MB also them since its max is 667 ram...sigh new ram also....?Wait my conroe 1333/d667 motherboard says it can take core2 duo extreme proccesor...could i just get that and be good? Ther has got to be a test site for this game......
i think this is one of the most stupid posts i've read
I think FC should sue every single parent that tries to sue them, and have those parents have their kids taken away, and possibly fined/thrown in jail.. for allowing their kids to access a mature rated game and for being clueless about parenting and expecting the state to do it for them.
See what I did there? It's not FC's problem, its YOUR problem (the parents).
AoC won't be a Vanguard level failure, but it will be a bust in my opinion.
Its technical problems are at least as bad as Vanguard's were and its "revolutionary combat" is just 3 buttons for basic attacks instead of one.
However, it won't be a Vanguard type failure for one reason: the kiddies need their gore and nipples. Nipples will sell as many boxes to lonely teens as the Conan license will pull in.
First of all i played Vanguard beta and post release. After just the beta weekend I would not even compare this game to the disaster that was VG.
As far the M rating, the blood, gore, nudity and bad language ect. You can see much much worse on the internet for free so if you are a parent and your kid has a pc with an internet connection that you don't monitor or restrict then you are an idiot. It not Funcom's or anyone elses job to babysit your kids sorry. I only wish the M rating would keep all the kids out of this game but I already know that won't be the case.
what technical problems are you referring to? NDA is still in effect for the technical/general beta's so i doubt there is any valid information released about the so called "technical" problems you talk about.
PVP beta weekend may have problems which i have no idea about as i was not involved but one thing that has been stated that the PVP beta was an older build than what is currently about. Issue with that build may have already been fixed only time will tell