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Why you won't being playing Warhammer?

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  • MistickMistick Member Posts: 100
    Originally posted by zecumbe


    Q - Why you won't being playing Warhammer?
    A - youtube.com/watch

    Good for you! Once again no ty! I swear I see another class base fantasy game I'm going to puke!

  • allennc55allennc55 Member Posts: 28

    i havnt read this thread yet.. ill read it after i make my post..

    I Wont be playing WARHAMMER because im a WoW n00b who can only 1 click attack things.. i dotn have the nessasary brain power to cordinate skill based attacks, and the pvp is to intense for me.. i prefer Suttle pvp where i can gank newbies in their starter areas so i can feel like a hotshot big time PvPer.

     

     

    P.S. WoW sucks and i do not play it (just incase people didnt get the hint.. that was sarcasm up above)

    Wonder how many WoW related posts that are here..! im gonna go back and read them now..

  • Inf666Inf666 Member UncommonPosts: 513

    ...because I do not want to be yet another mindless drone that just presses 1 to 5 repeatedly for hours and has no chance whatsoever to win alone against 3 enemys at the same time n PvP even if I had 5 arms, an IQ of 23423 and the power to look 2 minutes into the future.

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    Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

  • SarileSarile Member Posts: 45

    I'm looking forward to the game and will be playing it!

  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442

    Originally posted by Mistick

    Originally posted by zecumbe


    Q - Why you won't being playing Warhammer?
    A - youtube.com/watch

    Good for you! Once again no ty! I swear I see another class base fantasy game I'm going to puke!

    Not my fault you spent your life playing fantasy mmos, guess no one made you play them also!

    Anyway Age of Conan has more of realism of all MMORPGS i have seen arround!

  • MitnalMitnal Member Posts: 99

    WoW 2.0 is what this game is O.o sorry to tell you the truth my friends. its just another carebear game.

  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442

    Originally posted by Mitnal


    WoW 2.0 is what this game is O.o sorry to tell you the truth my friends. its just another carebear game.

    WoW is alredy going for 2.4.2 patch, so at best (worse?) this would make WAR = WoW 3.0 ??

  • gimmeapennygimmeapenny Member Posts: 85

     

    Originally posted by Aczero


    Haha, one word: lol!
    I love the reasons the most people give <3 Like the graphics suck and that it is just the same as WoW.

     

    Duh, because WoW is the prettiest game ever made, on release it had more power in it then any game on the market. The crytech and source engines wished they had anything on WoW. Don't get me started on the very low quality EQ2 graphics.

    WAR ripped off WoW in so many ways, they even have several books that completely rip off characters like Illidan. Starcraft was completely ripped off as well, Terran, Hydralisks, Protoss, and others were all completely redone in the WH40k game and some books and that is bullcrap, I can't believe they ripped them off so badly.

    Blizzard made WoW and used a time machine to show it to the creators of EQ which completely stole the idea and remade the game with crappy graphics, later on they would release it when EQ2 releases just to show its greatness, that is how awesome Blizzard is. DAOC combat system too was a complete rip off of WoW's just harder to use because Mythic sucks so bad.

    WoW is the first MMO ever made, the best PVP MMO ever made and no game can compare. Hardcore? Please play in STV  from 30-40 on a PVP server, people talk about UO, wtf is that? The ultimate Diablo rip off but with a big server? Shit wtf is wrong with you people. WoW you have to walk to your corpse when you get ganked, and sometimes you die right after you respawn. It is crazy. Anyone that plays a "PvP MMO" is just a carebear.

     

    I have decided to join them since there are so many of them...

    Playing: EVE
    and you better care

  • Ascension08Ascension08 Member Posts: 1,980

    Originally posted by gimmeapenny


     
    Originally posted by Aczero


    Haha, one word: lol!
    I love the reasons the most people give <3 Like the graphics suck and that it is just the same as WoW.

     

    Duh, because WoW is the prettiest game ever made, on release it had more power in it then any game on the market. The crytech and source engines wished they had anything on WoW. Don't get me started on the very low quality EQ2 graphics.

    WAR ripped off WoW in so many ways, they even have several books that completely rip off characters like Illidan. Starcraft was completely ripped off as well, Terran, Hydralisks, Protoss, and others were all completely redone in the WH40k game and some books and that is bullcrap, I can't believe they ripped them off so badly.

    Blizzard made WoW and used a time machine to show it to the creators of EQ which completely stole the idea and remade the game with crappy graphics, later on they would release it when EQ2 releases just to show its greatness, that is how awesome Blizzard is. DAOC combat system too was a complete rip off of WoW's just harder to use because Mythic sucks so bad.

    WoW is the first MMO ever made, the best PVP MMO ever made and no game can compare. Hardcore? Please play in STV  from 30-40 on a PVP server, people talk about UO, wtf is that? The ultimate Diablo rip off but with a big server? Shit wtf is wrong with you people. WoW you have to walk to your corpse when you get ganked, and sometimes you die right after you respawn. It is crazy. Anyone that plays a "PvP MMO" is just a carebear.

     

    I have decided to join them since there are so many of them...

    First, I laugh at you. Sorry.

    Second, in your sig it says you're looking forward to WAR

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    A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"

    Order of the White Border.

  • xzevexzeve Member Posts: 182

    cant belive this thread is alive ... stop feeding the trolls / ignorants... most ppl here dont seem to know wtf they are talking about

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  • BabuinixBabuinix Member EpicPosts: 4,442

     

    Originally posted by xzeve


    cant belive this thread is alive ... stop feeding the trolls / ignorants... most ppl here dont seem to know wtf they are talking about
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    QFT

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  • zoey121zoey121 Member Posts: 926

    I did enjoy daoc until TOA i just find myself not into mmorpgs at this point. Never liked PVP for pvp's  sake. Much more pve oriented as a player and enjoy things that are non combat  mini games ,So this offering is not a fit for me. 

     I do not believe most mmorpgs can achieve the wonderful mythical balance that so many folks think there must be in class based games. There will always be better players then yourself. Always have folks that have more time, more organized guilds more equipment, better gear and the ablity to find groups.

      There was a time way back when i always followed the new offerings but some where along the way, maybe after nge  i stopped paying attention and just focused on the games that might be interesting.

      Also do not feel like up grading my machine at this point. O/p you did ask a good question

  • mehhemmehhem Member Posts: 653

    I was really looking forward to it, but the more stuff I hear about War, the more I think it'll suck.  I don't want another WoW,  I can already play WoW.  I want something different.  When I heard the devs explaining how they let each class be different through talents and how they thought it was new and innovating,  that killed it for me.  The ignorance on the devs telling us how their talent system is new and innovating when WoW has been doing that all along.  I really think the game is going to be trash and I'm hoping that it won't be.

  • elvenangelelvenangel Member Posts: 2,205
    Originally posted by mehhem


    I was really looking forward to it, but the more stuff I hear about War, the more I think it'll suck.  I don't want another WoW,  I can already play WoW.  I want something different.  When I heard the devs explaining how they let each class be different through talents and how they thought it was new and innovating,  that killed it for me.  The ignorance on the devs telling us how their talent system is new and innovating when WoW has been doing that all along.  I really think the game is going to be trash and I'm hoping that it won't be.



    What talents?  There aren't Talents...there are Morale based Abilities and Tactic abilities.

    Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

  • MarLMarL Member UncommonPosts: 606

    Mainly the reason I don't think ill play war is because there big selling point is RvR PvP ,and I don't understand how RvR is supposed to make pvp better.

    Own, Mine, Defend, Attack, 24/7

  • Ascension08Ascension08 Member Posts: 1,980
    Originally posted by MarL


    Mainly the reason I don't think ill play war is because there big selling point is RvR PvP ,and I don't understand how RvR is supposed to make pvp better.

    One vs one or a hundred vs a hundred? Your choice. The latter is RvR, plus throw in a sense of realm pride, a real-world objective like trying to take your enemy's capital, and different methods of doing it (scenarios, world pvp, ect).

    --------------------------------------
    A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"

    Order of the White Border.

  • tikovootikovoo Member Posts: 289

    Originally posted by Ascension08

    Originally posted by MarL


    Mainly the reason I don't think ill play war is because there big selling point is RvR PvP ,and I don't understand how RvR is supposed to make pvp better.

    One vs one or a hundred vs a hundred? Your choice. The latter is RvR, plus throw in a sense of realm pride, a real-world objective like trying to take your enemy's capital, and different methods of doing it (scenarios, world pvp, ect).


    and the ability not to be able to attack someone of your same class, guild mate, or faction side if they are an ass. real world objectives like attacking flags in area's... really its a big mini game with lots of little things to do in a sort of open world.

    but still i'll give it a go.

  • XenosaiyanXenosaiyan Member Posts: 215

    Well, to be honest, I am not as hyped about Warhammer Online then what I used to be, I used to be soooo dang hyped about this game, but now I don't think I am. The graphics aren't as good as Age of Conan, the class system isn't as sophisticated as Age of Conan. Seems to be pointless at the moment. I mean ever since I got hyped about age of Conan I don't know. But this game is getting released a long time from now which is good because i'm not hyped and 2nd of all Age of Conan will take it's place until it gets released. I mean really guys, it's definitely has potential. The RvR system is sophisticated, though I might not play it, it's 50/50

  • arkanevarkanev Member UncommonPosts: 82

    Originally posted by Neanderthal


     
    Originally posted by Gadareth


    Surely anyone who is good enough at PVP to help defeat the city they will also be good enough to join up with another 23 fellows and do the deed on the KIng ?
    With PvE raiding it has never been a question of being "good enough".  It's a question of whether or not a person is willing to be an ass-kissing flunky in a raiding guild; and whether or not they can play for 5-10 hours at a sitting; and whether or not they are willing to endure hours of mindless, simon-says, follow-the-leader boredom.

     

    I hate that shit with an undying and truly passionate hatred.  It's not a question of whether I could do it or if I'm good enough for it.  What matters is that I refuse to do it because I can't stand it.  I don't pay money so I can suffer through crap that I hate.  And if PvE raids are the culmination of the PvP war, where the best rewards are, then as far as I'm concerned they can shove their game up their asses, twist it sideways, and die of cronic constipation.

    I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fauning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot.  But in games where those people get the highest progression anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them.  And I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privelege of being an easy target for over-powered toadies.

    I totally agree with you. But i must say , most of PVP I've seen look like WoW one (even if i dont like to compare) and PVP in WoW feel boring. Battleground look like replacing mobs in an instance with players.

    I look forward to Public quest, they will allow me to work together in a PVE enviroment and group OR NOT.

    Raid feel like forced grouping, I like PVE but not raiding.

    I love PVP but my reference to PVP come from MUD's and UO. And warhammer PVP doesnt look like that.

     

    Still I will play this game and I'm not interested in Age of conan since its look like it's a game to lure teen to play mature stuff. (I don't need female breast or gore to find a game enjoyable).

  • GarfunkelGarfunkel Member UncommonPosts: 224

    I've pre-ordered the CE but I probably wont play straight away. I see where everyone is coming from when they say they don't want WoW with a 2008 update.

    But I'm really looking forward to a good pvp game and if AoC can give me that then I'll stick with it for a good while and the WAR pre-order will stop on my shelf.

    But the day will come when I fancy something different and I will play it for sure. I'm just a bit WoW'd out at the moment but I'm kidding myself if I think I'll never play it.

    I think the guy further up the thread hit the nail on the head when he said that Warhammer didn't come first, they just had the IP first. The MMO version has been snatched off them by Blizzard.

    There's 10 million WoW fans out there that are going to be wanting to move on to the next big thing at some point. A good proportion of them will want a change not a re-hash of what they've been playing for 3 years with a very similar art style. The scary thing is if no other game catches them and challenges WoW then they might drift away from the genre all together and the whole MMO market will be the worse off for it.

    Game Workshops biggest every boob was not slapping a writ on Blizzard when the Warcraft RTS came out. If it wasn't already obvious what there inspirsation was, when it went MMO it was blatant . I think GW will rue the day they let it pass.

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  • II_devil_IIII_devil_II Member Posts: 25

    i'm not gona play it anymore, mostly because i think i will have to much lag etc and i want to play a mmo that's more in the future or present day.

  • MarLMarL Member UncommonPosts: 606
    Originally posted by Ascension08

    Originally posted by MarL


    Mainly the reason I don't think ill play war is because there big selling point is RvR PvP ,and I don't understand how RvR is supposed to make pvp better.

    One vs one or a hundred vs a hundred? Your choice. The latter is RvR, plus throw in a sense of realm pride, a real-world objective like trying to take your enemy's capital, and different methods of doing it (scenarios, world pvp, ect).

    I get that its alot of people, I just don't get why its better than guild vs guild like lineage 2 or perfect world(where guild fight to own the land,which they make money from)

    Own, Mine, Defend, Attack, 24/7

  • elvenangelelvenangel Member Posts: 2,205

    Because Guild vs Guild is elitism...its only for guilds..it leaves out everyone else, small guilds, or small clans. RvR is your whole race..your entire realm fighting for something...does that mean they all get along no? Does it mean they won't race to own a keep on a constant basis? No..but it does mean that those guilds will fight together to ensure that guilds from another realm don't take take things.  RvR is a way to get the whole server working for common goals even if they aren't necessarily 'grouped' together.

    The whole point to this game is a giant WAR ... you can't have a war if everyone is playign economy landlord...while I understand people like that sort of thing..there are already tons of games that offer that sort of game play.   There are not how ever alot of RvR games, its time there's a new one on the market. 

    Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

  • MarLMarL Member UncommonPosts: 606

     

    Originally posted by elvenangel


    Because Guild vs Guild is elitism...its only for guilds..it leaves out everyone else, small guilds, or small clans. RvR is your whole race..your entire realm fighting for something...does that mean they all get along no? Does it mean they won't race to own a keep on a constant basis? No..but it does mean that those guilds will fight together to ensure that guilds from another realm don't take take things.  RvR is a way to get the whole server working for common goals even if they aren't necessarily 'grouped' together.
    The whole point to this game is a giant WAR ... you can't have a war if everyone is playign economy landlord...while I understand people like that sort of thing..there are already tons of games that offer that sort of game play.   There are not how ever alot of RvR games, its time there's a new one on the market. 
    I get what your saying, but since I haven't played daoc I just dont get why I would try really hard to fight for my realm? It sounds like a really big alteric valley? The reason I did not play POTBS is because the game was built around taking over the towns, but I just didnt see the point in all that effort for my faction.



     

    The elitism thing is applied in the games I listed and honestly i really meant more like 10six. Everyone had bases and bases made you money. It was four factions at war and since you designed your own base there was only good players and bad players. You kept what you killed, until somone kills you.

     

    I will try it but like I said as of now I just dont get it......

    Own, Mine, Defend, Attack, 24/7

  • Ascension08Ascension08 Member Posts: 1,980

     

    Originally posted by MarL


     
     
    Originally posted by elvenangel


    Because Guild vs Guild is elitism...its only for guilds..it leaves out everyone else, small guilds, or small clans. RvR is your whole race..your entire realm fighting for something...does that mean they all get along no? Does it mean they won't race to own a keep on a constant basis? No..but it does mean that those guilds will fight together to ensure that guilds from another realm don't take take things.  RvR is a way to get the whole server working for common goals even if they aren't necessarily 'grouped' together.
    The whole point to this game is a giant WAR ... you can't have a war if everyone is playign economy landlord...while I understand people like that sort of thing..there are already tons of games that offer that sort of game play.   There are not how ever alot of RvR games, its time there's a new one on the market. 
    I get what your saying, but since I haven't played daoc I just dont get why I would try really hard to fight for my realm? It sounds like a really big alteric valley? The reason I did not play POTBS is because the game was built around taking over the towns, but I just didnt see the point in all that effort for my faction.

     



     

    The elitism thing is applied in the games I listed and honestly i really meant more like 10six. Everyone had bases and bases made you money. It was four factions at war and since you designed your own base there was only good players and bad players. You kept what you killed, until somone kills you.

     

    I will try it but like I said as of now I just dont get it......

    It's ok MarL, people will play RvR for three reasons.

     

    1) They love to siege or love to be part of huge battles.

    2) They have a sense of realm pride (which is what you're missing, but that's totally fine. Just the feeling of having a whole nation and race you're fighting for is something that varies between people. Some could care less, others love to fight and die for it.)

    3) Just the actual player vs. player aspect of it.

    --------------------------------------
    A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"

    Order of the White Border.

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