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happydan20happydan20 Member UncommonPosts: 260

I've been on the trial for a couple of days.  I have to say the ambiance and environment is very captivating.  It really feels like a real world and it sucks me into it.  I forgot mmo's could feel that way.

 

I really enjoy the attention to details, for the sake of details, like how you can grow pipeweed, even though theres no stat benefit o anything.

 

I play healing classes and i have to say i enjoy the minstrel alot!  It doesnt feel like im a cleric or priest, it feels like something very new.  I'm still getting used to the idea that my abilities raise themselves every level, so i have to adjust which things i do when.

 

That said, I have a few complaints.  I picked historian, and its very tedious.  Everywhere i go i see ore samples in t he ground but to get lore you have to go to ruins and fight a ton of mobs for *one* resource node. 

Also, the game seems very empty, ive maybe run into 10 players in my few days of playing, and i grouped once, only because we happen to be in the same place on the same escort.

 

It seems like no one groups except for the instance quests, and it takes something out of the game for me.  I'm only level 10 maybe this changes?

 

Also, I'm a minstrel, i trained all these instrument skills, but I've yet to see a single instrument for me to have.

another question: if i change my vocation, and the next also has farming, will my farming skill stay with me or reset.

I feel like historian was meant fo loremasters and am wondering if a chose a wrong skill, any opinions on that?

 

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  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

     

    Originally posted by happydan20


    I've been on the trial for a couple of days.  I have to say the ambiance and environment is very captivating.  It really feels like a real world and it sucks me into it.  I forgot mmo's could feel that way.
     
    I really enjoy the attention to details, for the sake of details, like how you can grow pipeweed, even though theres no stat benefit o anything.
     
    I play healing classes and i have to say i enjoy the minstrel alot!  It doesnt feel like im a cleric or priest, it feels like something very new.  I'm still getting used to the idea that my abilities raise themselves every level, so i have to adjust which things i do when.
     
    That said, I have a few complaints.  I picked historian, and its very tedious.  Everywhere i go i see ore samples in t he ground but to get lore you have to go to ruins and fight a ton of mobs for *one* resource node.  Yeah, historian is the hardest craft to level. Might consider having explorer for you first toon - better on the money as well.
    Also, the game seems very empty, ive maybe run into 10 players in my few days of playing, and i grouped once, only because we happen to be in the same place on the same escort.
     That's because the first 12-15 levels are passed very quickly. Once you're above 12-13, and get to Bree, you'll see the real picture on the quantity of players in the game :)
    It seems like no one groups except for the instance quests, and it takes something out of the game for me.  I'm only level 10 maybe this changes?
     As above - yes, it will definitely change once you're 15 or higher!
    Also, I'm a minstrel, i trained all these instrument skills, but I've yet to see a single instrument for me to have. Don't worry, there'll be plenty and more :)
    another question: if i change my vocation, and the next also has farming, will my farming skill stay with me or reset.  Yes, you keep the crafting XP points in this case. Of course, if your new vocation won't have farming as craft, you'll lose them.
    I feel like historian was meant fo loremasters and am wondering if a chose a wrong skill, any opinions on that? There is no strict "vocation per class", anyone can be anything. Of course, you're supposed to craft stuff that you can use yourself (not much point creating heavy armor if you're a loremaster), but even that's not impossible.
     

    Hope I helped...

     

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • happydan20happydan20 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    yes thats very helpful information, i just need to tough it out 3 more levels:)

  • dragonacedragonace Member UncommonPosts: 1,185

    Originally posted by happydan20


    yes thats very helpful information, i just need to tough it out 3 more levels:)
    Since you are still fairly low level, I would try out different servers at the times that you will normally play.

     

    All of the servers are going to have different peak playing times, so try out a few different ones to find that right mix of players that you are looking for.

    As DB mentioned though... there aren't very many players doing groups until you get into the Barrow Downs next to Bree.  That too will depend on the mix of players on the server you are playing on.

     

    As for crafting vocations... I'll agree with DB again... Historian isn't a very good choice for your first character.   It's definitely one of the slowest to progress in, and you won't really have much to show for it until the highest levels... when it becomes one of the best. 

    I would always recommend a players first character pick a vocation that has prospector as one of the professions.  That will let you harvest all those ore nodes you keep seeing, and then you can either sell the raw resources or process them... either way it's a money-making proposition.  

    If you go with Explorer as DB mentioned, then you can harvest both ore and wood nodes.  Wood doesn't sell as well as ore, but it can still net you a decent amount of money to help with buying your skills or other items you many want.

     

    As to the Minstrel instrument skills... those are mainly for entertainment purposes.  As a minstrel you have access to all the different instruments available.  You won't need to buy them for your normal adventuring though. 

    They work in conjunction with LoTRo's music system whereby you can purchase different musical instruments that you have the knowledge to play and using the music system actually play real music.  If you are a musician it comes fairly easy... if not... it seems a bit convoluted.  

    For those that know how to make it work... they can make some really great sounding songs.   I've even seen 6-8 person bands performing... very neat stuff. 

  • Bedlem3342Bedlem3342 Member UncommonPosts: 252

    Try different servers.Odd though, i play on landroval.I have my own guild and often wonder to the noob area maybe to recruit some young ones and all the time i see 20+ people running around.One factor could be your time zone.

    Anyways,as for the vocation, yes, historian is a tuff one to start out on. As a minstrel maybe a explorer or something with tailoring would be a good choice. Although there is lots to do to get Grand Master (the highest tier)
    It will prolly benefit you much more.

    Don't ever shy away from using the Advice channel.

  • happydan20happydan20 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    is there a resource for knowing good servers based on timezone or population?  I found it odd that they offee4d none of that info when i chose one.

     

    So all those instrument skills have nothing to do with combat?  I wish id known that before i payed for them.

     

    anothe thing im curious about are ui mods or something like /tloc in wow, anything player made that has enhanced the game?

     

    are there any guides for say farming that says what you should grow, for instance i discovered that yellow onions (i think) happen to drop skins for dyes now and again.

    I am a master farmer about 1/5 of the way though it, and id like to go back and master the earlier levels on up, but i want to grow the most profitable things instead of the free recipe they gave.

    i feel dumb asking this, but how do you use the advice channel, i've tried typing /advice...  is it restricted from trial accounts or something?

    edit: and it appears that you cant trade between your other characters? is that so?

  • 8hammer88hammer8 Member Posts: 1,812
    Originally posted by happydan20


    is there a resource for knowing good servers based on timezone or population?  I found it odd that they offee4d none of that info when i chose one.
     Turbine does not release this type of information, so you will not find it anywhere.  Basic's - Brandywine: Highest population / fun loving community / Nice mix of help and hooligans.  Landroval: Good population / Unofficial role play server / most people who play there are happy.  Elimendar: Good Population / More oceanic player base (ie europe/austrailia)
    So all those instrument skills have nothing to do with combat?  I wish id known that before i payed for them.
     The instruments do have significance in combat as they give you added bonuses.  Do to the AH (auction hall) and look in the instrument category.  I play a Minstrel as my main and I only use two instruments depending on what I am doing, Solo/PvMP = Drum for increased balad dmg / Grouping/Raiding = Theorbo for decreased threat from aggro.
    anothe thing im curious about are ui mods or something like /tloc in wow, anything player made that has enhanced the game?
    The music system is really neat and many players use this to their advantage.  People make their own music as well as playing the same favorite over and over.  If you are a Rolling Stones fan, you should love most any AH as "Paint It Black" is probably playing.
     
    are there any guides for say farming that says what you should grow, for instance i discovered that yellow onions (i think) happen to drop skins for dyes now and again.
    I would go to the official lotro forums there are a lot of great tips and helpful people.
    I am a master farmer about 1/5 of the way though it, and id like to go back and maste the earlier levels on up, but i want to grow the most profitable things instead of the free recipe they gave.
    I always trying to stair step my crafting levels...so by the time I am ready to master the next tier, I have already mastered the previous.  So visually...complete the yellow bar on the previous as I am finishing the orange bar on the next.  People also make money on low level stuff used for simple quests in the beginning...like the quest that requires eggs and onions...cook it up sell it for a few quick silver for people that need/want it.
    i feel dumb asking this, but how do you use the advice channel, i've tried typing /advice...  is it restricted from trial accounts or something?
    Might not be available to you../advice is the proper way.  Good luck if you need help and end up on Brandywine hit up Winterfell.

     

    "It is easier to be cruel than wise. The road to wisdom is long and difficult... so most people just turn out to be assholes" Feng (Christopher Walken)

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Originally posted by happydan20


    is there a resource for knowing good servers based on timezone or population?  I found it odd that they offee4d none of that info when i chose one.
     
    So all those instrument skills have nothing to do with combat?  I wish id known that before i payed for them.
     
    anothe thing im curious about are ui mods or something like /tloc in wow, anything player made that has enhanced the game?
     
    are there any guides for say farming that says what you should grow, for instance i discovered that yellow onions (i think) happen to drop skins for dyes now and again.
    I am a master farmer about 1/5 of the way though it, and id like to go back and master the earlier levels on up, but i want to grow the most profitable things instead of the free recipe they gave.
    i feel dumb asking this, but how do you use the advice channel, i've tried typing /advice...  is it restricted from trial accounts or something?
    edit: and it appears that you cant trade between your other characters? is that so?



    The player made UI's are just skins. There is no way to alter the interface in order to add additional functionality.

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  • happydan20happydan20 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    thank you all for the detailed replies, i think i picked a bad server, but ill wait till i get to the bree lands before i pass judgement.

    gladden is my server, and i do a /who now and again and never see more than 2-4 in my level range.  i've been trying for 2 days to do my first instance quest.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780

    Originally posted by happydan20


    thank you all for the detailed replies, i think i picked a bad server, but ill wait till i get to the bree lands before i pass judgement.
    gladden is my server, and i do a /who now and again and never see more than 2-4 in my level range.  i've been trying for 2 days to do my first instance quest.
    That doesn't mean you are going to get everyone in the area. Many people (myself included) make it so we can't be "found". Doesn't mean that we don't look at "looking for fellowship" chat.

    Have you asked in that chat?

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    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

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  • happydan20happydan20 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    i post maybe once an hour in the lff, i don't want to spam. as well as put myself in the lfg with the note of quest.

     

    thanks for checking though.

  • OdyssesOdysses Member Posts: 581

    The current LFG system and finding people is the achileas heal right now for LoTRO.   Luckily they have made a ton of improvements coming with this patch.

    Part of the problem is when you do a search if you don't adjust anything you will not get a real picture for who is on and where they are at.   If you happen to be in Hobbiton, you won't see the other 8 to 10 people that may be on over in Michel Delving in your level range.

  • happydan20happydan20 Member UncommonPosts: 260

    can i alter that, or are you saying the ability to server wide in level range find will be in the patch?

  • dragonacedragonace Member UncommonPosts: 1,185

    Originally posted by happydan20


    can i alter that, or are you saying the ability to server wide in level range find will be in the patch?
    The patch is coming today. 

     

    But yes, you can alter that by removing any area filters in the area where it has the area you are at currently.  Do remember though that looking for other players that way will not show anyone who has made themselves anon. 

     

    Thanks to gold-sellers and power-levelers... a good number of player choose to go anon.   That right there is enough of an issue to warrant an answer to the question:  What harm do gold-sellers and power-levelers do to you?  

     

    Here is a link to the new features coming out today for the LFG tool:

    www.lotro.com/article/528

  • DonnieBrascoDonnieBrasco Member Posts: 1,757

    Wait a second.

    Today is the last maintenance day in April.

    Does that mean that book13 is coming out today? :)

    DB

    Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.

  • aiwe2143aiwe2143 Member UncommonPosts: 73

    Hiya,

    Welcome to LoTRO!  I wasn't sure if anyone answered this, but I'm not sure if trial accounts can use the advice channel. 

    A while back, LoTRO was PLAGUED by gold spammers.  We wouldnt go five minutes without 20 gold spam tells.  It was VERY annoying to say the least.  Almost unbearable.  So they took a lot of steps to get rid of that and now, I may get 1 spam tell in a month, tops.

    To do this, they limited the trial account's access to cretain chat channels such as tells.  I think this is a much better approach as it has significantly decreased gold spammer tells and their appearance in a lot of the main channels (although if you stand in bree for any amount of time than half a second they'll be all over OOC, but you can report them easily y right clicking on their name and choosing reportas spammer.)

    So many games lately have been reducing access to their trial accounts, which may cut down on spammers, but also on paying customers.

    BTW like he said above, you didn't waste your money on the instruments.  Some you will use as a minstrel for combat purposes.  But if you like music, their music system is actually a pretty  cool and in-depth mini-game.  Check the main forums if you want to play though, there' a sticky post that tells you how to do it.  And you'll need it.

     

    I play on Meneldor and I never have a hard time population wise.  We played the other night and there were a ton of people on!  everyone in my kinship kept commenting on it.  But as they said it may be a time of day thing. 

    Hope some of this helps.  If you join Meneldor and need any help add Heatheryn, Sekia, Eeli, Aiwe, Khalion to your list and send me a tell if you have any questions at all :)

     

     

     

  • aiwe2143aiwe2143 Member UncommonPosts: 73

    Originally posted by DonnieBrasco


    Wait a second.
    Today is the last maintenance day in April.
    Does that mean that book13 is coming out today? :)
    DB

    Yep, Today is the day!!!!!

    You can read the patch notes on the main website.  They are adding a TON of stuff. 

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