It isn't open at all. It is very path based. But some people are saying that only the first 20 levels are like that. But since we can only play to level 13 , there is no way to really know at this point.
The first 20 lvls are going to be restrictive. They want you to follow a srict path to actually get a feel for the game as welll as the lore, and they said you really can't get that if you can go anywhere especially if ADD kicks in. The first 20 lvls are there almost as a tutorial. If you are upset over this and are in open beta, get lvl 13 then you will relize 20 won't take you long to get and you will be in the land of Hyboria in no time. Also if you look at the climbing skill that you can put points in, this allows you to climb faster and get t places that arnt on the path. Check out some youtube videos or gametrailer videos to see what i mean, will find link later.. at work atm
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It isn't open at all. It is very path based. But some people are saying that only the first 20 levels are like that. But since we can only play to level 13 , there is no way to really know at this point.
Don't listen to this guy. He is so wrong. Judging a game by the first 13 levels (if you even played the Open Beta) is stupid.
There are many accounts that the game opens up after level 20. Up to level 20 is the NEWBIE TUTORIAL area. Of course they aren't going to give you a ton of freedom.
Wait until the game comes out OR the until the NDA is lifted and you'll have your answer.
They need to keep you in one area while you're learning the game. I mean, you could play up to level 20 single player if you wanted to. The point is, we don't really have information past level 13, but there is no way Funcom would make an MMO that was completely linear. It worked for Guild Wars, but not for a game that has 80 levels in it.
You could always search on Google to find stuff that we can't talk about on these forums.. .
'Leaks' from beta testers have confirmed that after 20 the world is wide open. The first 20 levels are pathed as its basically just preparation for the 'real' world. Once you hit 20, you go to your starting city and open gameplay begins.
Holy $%$, so much BS info floating around! 'Leaks' from beta testers have confirmed that after 20 the world is wide open. The first 20 levels are pathed as its basically just preparation for the 'real' world. Once you hit 20, you go to your starting city and open gameplay begins.
'Leaks' actually state that the world opens up a BIT more. They say the zones are somewhat larger, but there's still plenty of invisible walls, and everything continues to be controlled by zoning and content paths. By content pathing I think they mean that all to most of the 'open'-ish areas are designed with a leveling and questing path in mind. Some people mentioned that there are a few areas to explore, but not many.
did nobody in beta do the quests in the white iles. yes the path leading to tortage is linear. but the white iles area is wide open with no set path. the area with all the picts you have to kill is wide open with no set path. so yes if you played the game to level 5 the game has a set path that you cant change at all.
Yes it opens up at 20+ but not as much as you may think.
So, once again, we have a significant different of opinion. Some say it opens a lot, some say not so much. Might depend on how each person defines "open"
No big deal, in a few weeks, the mystery will be over.
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A few weeks ago, I was reading an Age of Conaninterview with Shannon Drake where he was discussing several of the features that would be present in the game. One of the questions he was asked was why Funcom made the choice to use world zones for AoC instead of a seamless world. If you haven't heard the terminology before, games with world zones are games like EverQuest, EverQuest 2, and Guild Wars, where you have a loading screen when you pass from area to area.
Seamless worlds include games like World of Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Online, and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, where you can pass between different game areas without a loading screen. Seamless worlds still have loading screens, of course-- just not for most major zones that you'll be traveling through
if open means seamless to you -- AOC is not seamless
I am glad this is cleared up. I had serious doubts that the game was as restrictive as people made it sound, but I was hearing more from them than those who said otherwise. Obviously this is due to Open Beta players not being under a NDA and closed Beta Testers still being under one.
With that said, I don't really have issues with zone boundaries. I prefer the openess of SWG and UO, but I can easily live with the same type of environments as those found in World of Warcraft.
I wouldnt worrie about it, if its zones like EQ2 or whatever its prob to reduce lag/performance issues. I personally dont mind seeing a loading screen....as long as its not all instanced like Guild Wars im happy. That would suck...running into a zone and being the only player there unless your grouped.
After 20, it is not as ristricted as <20, but is it in no means compareable to ie WoW. The open world to explore and roam free so far only exists in FC's hype ("i was hunting, followed a goat into the woods and got lost..", "areas are huge to explore"-by the devs) and in the offense of some fanbois. This is NOT a game for explorers and adventurers who like to stray off the beaten track as you do it in ie Oblivion.
There are some areas more open, others very narrow. To an extend you can compare it to Guild Wars in which you have some nice vistas, see some this and that in the distance, but most of the time you can't leave the rails to reach to it.
The world IS NOT open. Period. After 20, it is not as ristricted as <20, but is it in no means compareable to ie WoW. The open world to explore and roam free so far only exists in FC's hype ("i was hunting, followed a goat into the woods and got lost..", "areas are huge to explore"-by the devs) and in the offense of some fanbois. This is NOT a game for explorers and adventurers who like to stray off the beaten track as you do it in ie Oblivion. There are some areas more open, others very narrow. To an extend you can compare it to Guild Wars in which you have some nice vistas, see some this and that in the distance, but most of the time you can't leave the rails to reach to it. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
How about this: We wait until either the NDA is lifted, or until Early access begins on the 17th, before making conclusions.
Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more. Don't pretend to have this amazing knowledge of this game when the only ones who are capable of answering this question are under the NDA.
How about this: We wait until either the NDA is lifted, or until Early access begins on the 17th, before making conclusions.
Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more. Don't pretend to have this amazing knowledge of this game when the only ones who are capable of answering this question are under the NDA.
"Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more"
Just because there is such thing as the NDA, my posting doesn't necessarily have to be speculation. But i see what card you are trying to play here...and it's getting old.
When it comes to any negative comment, you fanbois either tell people to shut up refering to the NDA or you even try to lure them to break it, so you can go an report them.
Getting back on the "speculation" thing: My statement is no speculation as i know what i am talking about - so there is no "pretending" of knowledge as it is knowledge by fact. And now find me the line which breaks the NDA -under which i am not btw. All of what i said is info widely available on the internet by now by the way. Go and try to play your Avery-card on someone else.
Holy $%$, so much BS info floating around! 'Leaks' from beta testers have confirmed that after 20 the world is wide open. The first 20 levels are pathed as its basically just preparation for the 'real' world. Once you hit 20, you go to your starting city and open gameplay begins.
'Leaks' actually state that the world opens up a BIT more. They say the zones are somewhat larger, but there's still plenty of invisible walls, and everything continues to be controlled by zoning and content paths. By content pathing I think they mean that all to most of the 'open'-ish areas are designed with a leveling and questing path in mind. Some people mentioned that there are a few areas to explore, but not many.
THANK YOU! Took to post 11 to get an HONEST answer to the OP's question.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
How about this: We wait until either the NDA is lifted, or until Early access begins on the 17th, before making conclusions.
Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more. Don't pretend to have this amazing knowledge of this game when the only ones who are capable of answering this question are under the NDA.
"Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more"
Just because there is such thing as the NDA, my posting doesn't necessarily have to be speculation. But i see what card you are trying to play here...and it's getting old.
When it comes to any negative comment, you fanbois either tell people to shut up refering to the NDA or you even try to lure them to break it, so you can go an report them.
Getting back on the "speculation" thing: My statement is no speculation as i know what i am talking about - so there is no "pretending" of knowledge as it is knowledge by fact. And now find me the line which breaks the NDA -under which i am not btw. All of what i said is info widely available on the internet by now by the way. Go and try to play your Avery-card on someone else.
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It isn't open at all. It is very path based. But some people are saying that only the first 20 levels are like that. But since we can only play to level 13 , there is no way to really know at this point.
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The first 20 lvls are going to be restrictive. They want you to follow a srict path to actually get a feel for the game as welll as the lore, and they said you really can't get that if you can go anywhere especially if ADD kicks in. The first 20 lvls are there almost as a tutorial. If you are upset over this and are in open beta, get lvl 13 then you will relize 20 won't take you long to get and you will be in the land of Hyboria in no time. Also if you look at the climbing skill that you can put points in, this allows you to climb faster and get t places that arnt on the path. Check out some youtube videos or gametrailer videos to see what i mean, will find link later.. at work atm
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Tortage is a starter area so i guess it makes sense to limit players so that they don't wander too far. But conalis valley was pretty expansive imo.
There are many accounts that the game opens up after level 20. Up to level 20 is the NEWBIE TUTORIAL area. Of course they aren't going to give you a ton of freedom.
Wait until the game comes out OR the until the NDA is lifted and you'll have your answer.
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They need to keep you in one area while you're learning the game. I mean, you could play up to level 20 single player if you wanted to. The point is, we don't really have information past level 13, but there is no way Funcom would make an MMO that was completely linear. It worked for Guild Wars, but not for a game that has 80 levels in it.
You could always search on Google to find stuff that we can't talk about on these forums.. .
Holy $%$, so much BS info floating around!
'Leaks' from beta testers have confirmed that after 20 the world is wide open. The first 20 levels are pathed as its basically just preparation for the 'real' world. Once you hit 20, you go to your starting city and open gameplay begins.
With only 11 days till launch, they need to lift the NDA , so people can answer these questions
Or even better, lift the level cap
'Leaks' actually state that the world opens up a BIT more. They say the zones are somewhat larger, but there's still plenty of invisible walls, and everything continues to be controlled by zoning and content paths. By content pathing I think they mean that all to most of the 'open'-ish areas are designed with a leveling and questing path in mind. Some people mentioned that there are a few areas to explore, but not many.
did nobody in beta do the quests in the white iles. yes the path leading to tortage is linear. but the white iles area is wide open with no set path. the area with all the picts you have to kill is wide open with no set path. so yes if you played the game to level 5 the game has a set path that you cant change at all.
Yes it opens up at 20+ but not as much as you may think.
So, once again, we have a significant different of opinion. Some say it opens a lot, some say not so much. Might depend on how each person defines "open"
No big deal, in a few weeks, the mystery will be over.
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Its class and level based. That usually means pathbased. But i can only hope its "wider" then many other class/level MMOs : )
according to massively, AOC is a zoned world
www.massively.com/2008/04/21/player-vs-everything-loading/
if open means seamless to you -- AOC is not seamless
EQ2 fan sites
There are a few zones that are wide open, though a lot of the zones give you the feeling that you're pushed down a path.
I am glad this is cleared up. I had serious doubts that the game was as restrictive as people made it sound, but I was hearing more from them than those who said otherwise. Obviously this is due to Open Beta players not being under a NDA and closed Beta Testers still being under one.
With that said, I don't really have issues with zone boundaries. I prefer the openess of SWG and UO, but I can easily live with the same type of environments as those found in World of Warcraft.
I wouldn t say it has enviroments like WOW at all.
That could be good or bad I guess.
I wouldnt worrie about it, if its zones like EQ2 or whatever its prob to reduce lag/performance issues. I personally dont mind seeing a loading screen....as long as its not all instanced like Guild Wars im happy. That would suck...running into a zone and being the only player there unless your grouped.
Uhh... what?
The world IS NOT open. Period.
After 20, it is not as ristricted as <20, but is it in no means compareable to ie WoW. The open world to explore and roam free so far only exists in FC's hype ("i was hunting, followed a goat into the woods and got lost..", "areas are huge to explore"-by the devs) and in the offense of some fanbois. This is NOT a game for explorers and adventurers who like to stray off the beaten track as you do it in ie Oblivion.
There are some areas more open, others very narrow. To an extend you can compare it to Guild Wars in which you have some nice vistas, see some this and that in the distance, but most of the time you can't leave the rails to reach to it.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more. Don't pretend to have this amazing knowledge of this game when the only ones who are capable of answering this question are under the NDA.
"Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more"
Just because there is such thing as the NDA, my posting doesn't necessarily have to be speculation. But i see what card you are trying to play here...and it's getting old.
When it comes to any negative comment, you fanbois either tell people to shut up refering to the NDA or you even try to lure them to break it, so you can go an report them.
Getting back on the "speculation" thing: My statement is no speculation as i know what i am talking about - so there is no "pretending" of knowledge as it is knowledge by fact. And now find me the line which breaks the NDA -under which i am not btw. All of what i said is info widely available on the internet by now by the way. Go and try to play your Avery-card on someone else.
'Leaks' actually state that the world opens up a BIT more. They say the zones are somewhat larger, but there's still plenty of invisible walls, and everything continues to be controlled by zoning and content paths. By content pathing I think they mean that all to most of the 'open'-ish areas are designed with a leveling and questing path in mind. Some people mentioned that there are a few areas to explore, but not many.
THANK YOU! Took to post 11 to get an HONEST answer to the OP's question.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
"Until then everything you say is simply speculation and nothing more"
Just because there is such thing as the NDA, my posting doesn't necessarily have to be speculation. But i see what card you are trying to play here...and it's getting old.
When it comes to any negative comment, you fanbois either tell people to shut up refering to the NDA or you even try to lure them to break it, so you can go an report them.
Getting back on the "speculation" thing: My statement is no speculation as i know what i am talking about - so there is no "pretending" of knowledge as it is knowledge by fact. And now find me the line which breaks the NDA -under which i am not btw. All of what i said is info widely available on the internet by now by the way. Go and try to play your Avery-card on someone else.
Hehe yes fanboys will unite on this