Originally posted by 3on1 Originally posted by Sarcazmo Aren't they Norwegian? Maybe they aren't fluent in awesome like you are. Either way, quit digging for shit to complain about.
QFT
and by calling the author immature u are asking to be flamed bad english = immature?! lol @ this failed attempt
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
Immature Im`ma*ture", a. [L. immaturus; pref. im- not + maturus mature, ripe. See Mature.]
1. Not mature; unripe; not arrived at perfection of full development; crude; unfinished; as, immature fruit; immature character; immature plans. "An ill-measured and immature counsel." --Bacon.
I believe that firmly applies to the author of the news release. His/her English skills are immature, undeveloped, crude, hasty, and premature.
As to the few folks griping about making a mountain out of a non-American molehill I have the following to say; I have friends all over the world who are bilingual and trilingual or more. In fact, I have a friend in Norway (where Funcom Oslo AS is located) who works in the industry. She speaks nearly flawless English when dealing with the English speakers of the world and writes far far clearer than this purile tripe I received from the official news source for Funcom.
Listen, there are things you do and don't do in this industry when it comes to localization. For example, you don't bake the names of buildings into your MMO artwork when you know you're going to be shipping the title around the world.
Similarly, sending out a highly unprofessional and poorly written (translated?) letter after your game has gone gold implies that you have no intention of providing competent and mature support to your English speaking community. It's not only unprofessional, it's poor marketing. For example, when Coke released their product in China, they didn't bother to check that the four characters they chose to phonetically sound like Coke-Cola had any meaning. It turned out their cans were an invective, swearing at Chinese people to go "bite the wax, Tadpole."
This whole thread makes me laugh. Just to think that it has come down to "professionalism" of Funcom's newsletters. I for one couldn't care any less of whether the news letter was properly written or not. It got the point across and thats all that matters. If you want to gripe about professionalism don't do it on this board because lets face it you are accomplishing nothing. If you have an issue with how Funcom's newsletters are written, take it up with them.
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
This whole thread makes me laugh. Just to think that it has come down to "professionalism" of Funcom's newsletters. I for one couldn't care any less of whether the news letter was properly written or not. It got the point across and thats all that matters. If you want to gripe about professionalism don't do it on this board because lets face it you are accomplishing nothing. If you have an issue with how Funcom's newsletters are written, take it up with them.
Gamers, having attention spans of maybe 2 seconds, generally dont give a damn about spelling. That much is apparent, so Locklain's right when he said telling people about it on these boards isn't going to do anything. A company should, I agree, but I also know it's hard being fluent in 2 languages or more, it takes time. If the whole thing was filled with such errors like holes in swiss cheese, then I'd understand. I'm willing to let a few words slip, even from a professional company. Especially a mostly foreign one (and Norway's cool!)
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Look at the OP's post history, he said him self he would never play or touch AoC. So I wonder how or where he got this newsletter that people like myself and others who ARE signed up for the same newsletters and haven't received them.
He has belittled the game and make baseless opinions on it all the while saying he hasn't played it and won't play it. He even wrote a reply in one of his posts saying he would come and do a "I told you so" when as he says the game flops like Vanguard did. Now that the game launched to what a majority have claimed a huge success, he is trying to create false information just so he can still look good and not like the idiot he was in the first place.
He is just trying to make the game look bad so that his previous comments won't come back and bite him in the butt.
OK, I don't know how this is getting all the feedback as it is, or how some people just refuse to admit, that professionalism is needed not only in the US but the entire world.
If your going to do business with another country in a different language take the steps to do it right and professional. I'm sure there are 1000 american's right now if you asked, would you move to oversees and be a technical writer for funcom, and they say hell yes... not that hard.
Think of it like this, Final Fantasy one of the biggest Japanese IP franchises ever made. Played by well over a billion people over the past 20 years.
Now what if Japan had made FF 1 - 12 and never translated it, or the manuals and sent Squaresoft US branch the Japanese versions of the game, and said here put this on the shelf. No No... it doesn't need translated, it doesn't need to be fixed. Just throw it out there, we designed it, we made it, play it as is or don't play it.....
Um something tells me that wouldn't have gone over to well with the western FF players. Not at all really.
What did the Japanese do, work very closely with American and European branches to make sure the games were translated as close as possible to the original Japanese versions in a very professional manner.
By saying... "who cares if they can't spell, English isn't their first language". Your really just dumbing down professionalism in business. Your saying "It's OK to be sub par, it is perfectly fine to be mediocre".
This makes me a very sad panda, that the world doesn't care enough about professionalism to hold game companies to higher standards.
Look at the OP's post history, he said him self he would never play or touch AoC. So I wonder how or where he got this newsletter that people like myself and others who ARE signed up for the same newsletters and haven't received them. He has belittled the game and make baseless opinions on it all the while saying he hasn't played it and won't play it. He even wrote a reply in one of his posts saying he would come and do a "I told you so" when as he says the game flops like Vanguard did. Now that the game launched to what a majority have claimed a huge success, he is trying to create false information just so he can still look good and not like the idiot he was in the first place. He is just trying to make the game look bad so that his previous comments won't come back and bite him in the butt.
Some people feel they need to justify their time spent in other games. This is what the OP is doing, for some reason he feels threatened by another game so must belittle the threat in turn. I believe they call it "little-big-man syndrome"
It's a Jeep thing. . . _______ |___| \_______/ = |||||| = |X| \*........*/ |X| |X|_________|X| You wouldn't understand
then at least get someone who can speak english. especially if their writing public announcements on the company's behalf -.-
Why? I've yet to hear one reason they should that isn't steeped in nationalist idiocy? Why should they add the cost? Hmmm? Are you as a subscriber willing to foot the cost of a monthly salary for someone who may have to write a couple anouncements a month? I'm not and to be quite honest, this whole argument is stupid and reeks of more immaturity than the message itself.
Have we really fallen that damn far as a society that we can't accept anything but our own point of view?
Yes, the letter was poorly written. So what? Did it impact the playablity of the game? Did it really impact your ability to enjoy the game? Did it really mess up the meaning of what was said? NO. So that is my response to hiring someone to write a couple messages a month, no.
"Funcom has a young and exciting work environment with highly skilled employees in offices in Switzerland, Norway, USA and China."
so your saying of all their employees in any of these places, none of them can speak proper english.
then at least get someone who can speak english. especially if their writing public announcements on the company's behalf -.-
Why? I've yet to hear one reason they should that isn't steeped in nationalist idiocy? Why should they add the cost? Hmmm? Are you as a subscriber willing to foot the cost of a monthly salary for someone who may have to write a couple anouncements a month? I'm not and to be quite honest, this whole argument is stupid and reeks of more immaturity than the message itself.
Have we really fallen that damn far as a society that we can't accept anything but our own point of view?
Yes, the letter was poorly written. So what? Did it impact the playablity of the game? Did it really impact your ability to enjoy the game? Did it really mess up the meaning of what was said? NO. So that is my response to hiring someone to write a couple messages a month, no.
"Funcom has a young and exciting work environment with highly skilled employees in offices in Switzerland, Norway, USA and China."
so your saying of all their employees in any of these places, none of them can speak proper english.
Well, as one who has been known to nitpik developers over what I perceive to be professional behaviour and what I perceive to be non-professional behaviour, I have to say this e-mail would have to be on the bottom of the list of any rant against any developer.
I have waded my way through Korean/Chinese/Japanese/Malaysian - to - English ported and translated games where the most they have done INGAME is translated everything with Google or Babelfish, not to mention the minefield of poorly structured responses/info provided in their newsletters and on their forums. And I have ranted myself against these developers simply because their games are marketed at the English speaking world but they're too damn lazy to put in the work.
Now, why am I willing to give Funcom slack over this newsletter/e-mail/whatever, when I wouldn't provbide it to these others? Simple. Play the game. Hell, play any game Funcom has made which has been marketed to, and sold to, the English speaking world. The ingame text is exceptional. Attention to detail in sentence structure and spelling is exceptional. From The Longest Journey, Dreamfall, Anarchy Online, and Age of Conan, all have been done remarkably well in the text department. The most I've ever found were a few typos in some of the new quests in the Shadowlands in AO, and they were patched quickly when reported.
Now go to their English forums, for both AO and AoC. Every response you get from the devs there is professional in both manners and text. And although many/most of the devs/community people are Norwegian by birth, they rarely make grammar mistakes on the forums in regards to either posting new info or responding to forum folk.
So, a little misspelling on a newsletter, which may in fact have been written by a "peon" who may not know English very well but still maintained good sentence structure even with the couple of typos, I am more than willing to forgive.
Originally posted by Locklain Some people feel they need to justify their time spent in other games. This is what the OP is doing, for some reason he feels threatened by another game so must belittle the threat in turn. I believe they call it "little-big-man syndrome"
I'm going to avoid "answering" the ad hominem attacks from posters like these. True, my initial post was painting the company with a broad swath and perhaps a bit of fallacious logic in and of itself.
That said, the point still holds true. If a company is unwilling to provide competent communication with its player base, in languages in which they choose to release their games, then the company itself is immature. Immature, as in unpracticed, crude, un-ready for the big time.
But what's worse - seriously worse - is that no matter how much I do or do not like the game does not excuse a major corporation making such a marketing faux pas. It says something about the company; namely, "crud, I better go pull any stock I might have in them before it becomes worthless."
What I find impressive is just how many of you are willing to give Funcom a pass on this. In an age of globalization and and industry that has been "localizing" games for years, this is just plain infantile. I expect it from a start-up, not from a company trying to compete with Sony, EA-Mythic, NCSoft, and Blizzard.
Maybe its written by a barbarian? Maybe its not his native language?
Its not a grammar fault... more like a typo. Wich is an indication that the writer wrote the message personally. He was in a hurry because as you can understand he must respond to many more emails besides yours.
He is a Norwegian and most probably speaks at least twice as many languages as you do.
Do yuo undrstand? There... I worte tihs in a hurry. Cry me a river.
See what happens when you don't care about the language of the people that you're marketing to? You are forever made a laughing stock that will probably not be forgotten for a while. If you don't know where those 2 lines came from, you're probably not that old.
You have been a long and thrustworthy participant in our community, and as such we would like to thank you for helping us form Age of Conan into the marvelous product it is today. The last weeks has seen some serious enhancment to the game, and with the release we will be opening several new areas and neverbefore seen content in the launch version of the game. What and where it is? You have to find out for yourself!
Sheesh, that is pathetic. It is a wonder that a single line of code works in Age of Banana... I mean Conana, (SP)
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
You have been a long and thrustworthy participant in our community, and as such we would like to thank you for helping us form Age of Conan into the marvelous product it is today. The last weeks has seen some serious enhancment to the game, and with the release we will be opening several new areas and neverbefore seen content in the launch version of the game. What and where it is? You have to find out for yourself!
Sheesh, that is pathetic. It is a wonder that a single line of code works in Age of Banana... I mean Conana, (SP)
So uh.. Wiccan... how many languages are you 100% fluent in?
You have been a long and thrustworthy participant in our community, and as such we would like to thank you for helping us form Age of Conan into the marvelous product it is today. The last weeks has seen some serious enhancment to the game, and with the release we will be opening several new areas and neverbefore seen content in the launch version of the game. What and where it is? You have to find out for yourself!
Sheesh, that is pathetic. It is a wonder that a single line of code works in Age of Banana... I mean Conana, (SP)
So uh.. Wiccan... how many languages are you 100% fluent in?
You have been a long and thrustworthy participant in our community, and as such we would like to thank you for helping us form Age of Conan into the marvelous product it is today. The last weeks has seen some serious enhancment to the game, and with the release we will be opening several new areas and neverbefore seen content in the launch version of the game. What and where it is? You have to find out for yourself!
Sheesh, that is pathetic. It is a wonder that a single line of code works in Age of Banana... I mean Conana, (SP)
So uh.. Wiccan... how many languages are you 100% fluent in?
I think the better question is, how many products is she selling in other countries.
If you're going to do business in another country, it's important to have a working knowledge of the language, or at least have someone under your employ who does. I remember a billboard in Japan that was advertising how Pepsi would, 'fill you with joy'...which turns out to be slang for getting someone pregnant.
Yes, if you look at Wiccan's postings she is an AoC player and just poking fun at the reply.
I also, note that the OP didn't reply to my post pointing out that he is lying about the newsletter just to make the game look bad so he can look good and try to say "I told you so". It is a blatant attempt like so many others I saw on the release of WoW and Lotro to discredit great launches by those games too. You will always get your jealous haters who have nothing better to do than post statements with no evidence or proof. It's the way of the internet forums.
BTW, Screenshots OP or it doesn't mean a thing. I can't believe it took 8 pages to have someone say that.
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and by calling the author immature u are asking to be flamed bad english = immature?!
lol @ this failed attempt
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
Immature
Im`ma*ture", a. [L. immaturus; pref. im- not + maturus mature, ripe. See Mature.]
1. Not mature; unripe; not arrived at perfection of full development; crude; unfinished; as, immature fruit; immature character; immature plans. "An ill-measured and immature counsel." --Bacon.
2. Premature; untimely; too early; as, an immature death. [R.] --Jer. Taylor.
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
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I believe that firmly applies to the author of the news release. His/her English skills are immature, undeveloped, crude, hasty, and premature.
As to the few folks griping about making a mountain out of a non-American molehill I have the following to say; I have friends all over the world who are bilingual and trilingual or more. In fact, I have a friend in Norway (where Funcom Oslo AS is located) who works in the industry. She speaks nearly flawless English when dealing with the English speakers of the world and writes far far clearer than this purile tripe I received from the official news source for Funcom.
Listen, there are things you do and don't do in this industry when it comes to localization. For example, you don't bake the names of buildings into your MMO artwork when you know you're going to be shipping the title around the world.
Similarly, sending out a highly unprofessional and poorly written (translated?) letter after your game has gone gold implies that you have no intention of providing competent and mature support to your English speaking community. It's not only unprofessional, it's poor marketing. For example, when Coke released their product in China, they didn't bother to check that the four characters they chose to phonetically sound like Coke-Cola had any meaning. It turned out their cans were an invective, swearing at Chinese people to go "bite the wax, Tadpole."
It's bad business, for so many reasons.
This whole thread makes me laugh. Just to think that it has come down to "professionalism" of Funcom's newsletters. I for one couldn't care any less of whether the news letter was properly written or not. It got the point across and thats all that matters. If you want to gripe about professionalism don't do it on this board because lets face it you are accomplishing nothing. If you have an issue with how Funcom's newsletters are written, take it up with them.
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You wouldn't understand
Gamers, having attention spans of maybe 2 seconds, generally dont give a damn about spelling. That much is apparent, so Locklain's right when he said telling people about it on these boards isn't going to do anything. A company should, I agree, but I also know it's hard being fluent in 2 languages or more, it takes time. If the whole thing was filled with such errors like holes in swiss cheese, then I'd understand. I'm willing to let a few words slip, even from a professional company. Especially a mostly foreign one (and Norway's cool!)
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Look at the OP's post history, he said him self he would never play or touch AoC. So I wonder how or where he got this newsletter that people like myself and others who ARE signed up for the same newsletters and haven't received them.
He has belittled the game and make baseless opinions on it all the while saying he hasn't played it and won't play it. He even wrote a reply in one of his posts saying he would come and do a "I told you so" when as he says the game flops like Vanguard did. Now that the game launched to what a majority have claimed a huge success, he is trying to create false information just so he can still look good and not like the idiot he was in the first place.
He is just trying to make the game look bad so that his previous comments won't come back and bite him in the butt.
Actually, the news-writer isn't immature, their English is. Completely different.
And thus the argument of:
Bad English =/= Immaturity
still stands.
OK, I don't know how this is getting all the feedback as it is, or how some people just refuse to admit, that professionalism is needed not only in the US but the entire world.
If your going to do business with another country in a different language take the steps to do it right and professional. I'm sure there are 1000 american's right now if you asked, would you move to oversees and be a technical writer for funcom, and they say hell yes... not that hard.
Think of it like this, Final Fantasy one of the biggest Japanese IP franchises ever made. Played by well over a billion people over the past 20 years.
Now what if Japan had made FF 1 - 12 and never translated it, or the manuals and sent Squaresoft US branch the Japanese versions of the game, and said here put this on the shelf. No No... it doesn't need translated, it doesn't need to be fixed. Just throw it out there, we designed it, we made it, play it as is or don't play it.....
Um something tells me that wouldn't have gone over to well with the western FF players. Not at all really.
What did the Japanese do, work very closely with American and European branches to make sure the games were translated as close as possible to the original Japanese versions in a very professional manner.
By saying... "who cares if they can't spell, English isn't their first language". Your really just dumbing down professionalism in business. Your saying "It's OK to be sub par, it is perfectly fine to be mediocre".
This makes me a very sad panda, that the world doesn't care enough about professionalism to hold game companies to higher standards.
Some people feel they need to justify their time spent in other games. This is what the OP is doing, for some reason he feels threatened by another game so must belittle the threat in turn. I believe they call it "little-big-man syndrome"
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Why? I've yet to hear one reason they should that isn't steeped in nationalist idiocy? Why should they add the cost? Hmmm? Are you as a subscriber willing to foot the cost of a monthly salary for someone who may have to write a couple anouncements a month? I'm not and to be quite honest, this whole argument is stupid and reeks of more immaturity than the message itself.
Have we really fallen that damn far as a society that we can't accept anything but our own point of view?
Yes, the letter was poorly written. So what? Did it impact the playablity of the game? Did it really impact your ability to enjoy the game? Did it really mess up the meaning of what was said? NO. So that is my response to hiring someone to write a couple messages a month, no.
"Funcom has a young and exciting work environment with highly skilled employees in offices in Switzerland, Norway, USA and China."so your saying of all their employees in any of these places, none of them can speak proper english.
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Why? I've yet to hear one reason they should that isn't steeped in nationalist idiocy? Why should they add the cost? Hmmm? Are you as a subscriber willing to foot the cost of a monthly salary for someone who may have to write a couple anouncements a month? I'm not and to be quite honest, this whole argument is stupid and reeks of more immaturity than the message itself.
Have we really fallen that damn far as a society that we can't accept anything but our own point of view?
Yes, the letter was poorly written. So what? Did it impact the playablity of the game? Did it really impact your ability to enjoy the game? Did it really mess up the meaning of what was said? NO. So that is my response to hiring someone to write a couple messages a month, no.
"Funcom has a young and exciting work environment with highly skilled employees in offices in Switzerland, Norway, USA and China."so your saying of all their employees in any of these places, none of them can speak proper english.
QFTLOL owned!
pretty impressive huh.
immature company with immature writing skills and immature PR. probably immature people too.
im pretty sure they dont give a crap when they've covered all of their development costs (22.5 mil) in the first week after the games release.
Another lame thread taking up precious internet space....
...did I spell all them werds right?
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
Yep, your right because thats all companies care to do is cover their costs. . .
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At this point, I think I'd just be beating a dead horse to complain about the "game."
If we constantly allow game designers to lower our expectations, we'll get exactly what we deserve from them.
Congratulations, Sir, you just defined the word "Democracy".
As to the post, well it was the best laugh I had in ages... thrustworthy... heh.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
OP, it say's under your avatar you're a game designer?? So "mature", "professional", game designers troll other games forums with nonsense like this?
You are neither "mature" nor "professional" and I seriously doubt you're a game designer little friend.
Have a nice day
Well, as one who has been known to nitpik developers over what I perceive to be professional behaviour and what I perceive to be non-professional behaviour, I have to say this e-mail would have to be on the bottom of the list of any rant against any developer.
I have waded my way through Korean/Chinese/Japanese/Malaysian - to - English ported and translated games where the most they have done INGAME is translated everything with Google or Babelfish, not to mention the minefield of poorly structured responses/info provided in their newsletters and on their forums. And I have ranted myself against these developers simply because their games are marketed at the English speaking world but they're too damn lazy to put in the work.
Now, why am I willing to give Funcom slack over this newsletter/e-mail/whatever, when I wouldn't provbide it to these others? Simple. Play the game. Hell, play any game Funcom has made which has been marketed to, and sold to, the English speaking world. The ingame text is exceptional. Attention to detail in sentence structure and spelling is exceptional. From The Longest Journey, Dreamfall, Anarchy Online, and Age of Conan, all have been done remarkably well in the text department. The most I've ever found were a few typos in some of the new quests in the Shadowlands in AO, and they were patched quickly when reported.
Now go to their English forums, for both AO and AoC. Every response you get from the devs there is professional in both manners and text. And although many/most of the devs/community people are Norwegian by birth, they rarely make grammar mistakes on the forums in regards to either posting new info or responding to forum folk.
So, a little misspelling on a newsletter, which may in fact have been written by a "peon" who may not know English very well but still maintained good sentence structure even with the couple of typos, I am more than willing to forgive.
Just my opinion.
I'm going to avoid "answering" the ad hominem attacks from posters like these. True, my initial post was painting the company with a broad swath and perhaps a bit of fallacious logic in and of itself.
That said, the point still holds true. If a company is unwilling to provide competent communication with its player base, in languages in which they choose to release their games, then the company itself is immature. Immature, as in unpracticed, crude, un-ready for the big time.
But what's worse - seriously worse - is that no matter how much I do or do not like the game does not excuse a major corporation making such a marketing faux pas. It says something about the company; namely, "crud, I better go pull any stock I might have in them before it becomes worthless."
What I find impressive is just how many of you are willing to give Funcom a pass on this. In an age of globalization and and industry that has been "localizing" games for years, this is just plain infantile. I expect it from a start-up, not from a company trying to compete with Sony, EA-Mythic, NCSoft, and Blizzard.
Maybe its written by a barbarian? Maybe its not his native language?
Its not a grammar fault... more like a typo. Wich is an indication that the writer wrote the message personally. He was in a hurry because as you can understand he must respond to many more emails besides yours.
He is a Norwegian and most probably speaks at least twice as many languages as you do.
Do yuo undrstand? There... I worte tihs in a hurry. Cry me a river.
"Somebody has set up us the bomb!"
"You have no chance to survive make your time."
See what happens when you don't care about the language of the people that you're marketing to? You are forever made a laughing stock that will probably not be forgotten for a while. If you don't know where those 2 lines came from, you're probably not that old.
"The reality of the poor in America isn't the difference between The Haves and The Have Nots, it is the difference between The Haves and The Have Lots."
So uh.. Wiccan... how many languages are you 100% fluent in?
So uh.. Wiccan... how many languages are you 100% fluent in?
You need to turn on your sarcasm detector.
So uh.. Wiccan... how many languages are you 100% fluent in?
I think the better question is, how many products is she selling in other countries.
If you're going to do business in another country, it's important to have a working knowledge of the language, or at least have someone under your employ who does. I remember a billboard in Japan that was advertising how Pepsi would, 'fill you with joy'...which turns out to be slang for getting someone pregnant.
Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.
Yes, if you look at Wiccan's postings she is an AoC player and just poking fun at the reply.
I also, note that the OP didn't reply to my post pointing out that he is lying about the newsletter just to make the game look bad so he can look good and try to say "I told you so". It is a blatant attempt like so many others I saw on the release of WoW and Lotro to discredit great launches by those games too. You will always get your jealous haters who have nothing better to do than post statements with no evidence or proof. It's the way of the internet forums.
BTW, Screenshots OP or it doesn't mean a thing. I can't believe it took 8 pages to have someone say that.
I got the same email, it's for real, it's the drinking cape for being a CB tester one.
Mne eto nado kak zuby v zadnitse.