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Best thing to come out of AoC release...
neuronomad
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The best thing to come out of AoC's release (to me) is the fact that SOE is doing the Living Legacy in response to it.
After leveling a few characters to the mid twenties in AoC I like so many others have a complete lack of interest in the game. I am not having any performance issues with AoC now, but the game just feels like it is missing something.
I decided a month ago to completely dump my 3 70s on WoW and vowed never to go back to the game. I had been considering going back to EQ2 but was waiting to see how AoC was. And just when I had 110% decided that AoC was too lackluster to continue with low and behold SOE announced the two months free for returning players to EQ and EQ2.
Tonight I decided to try out the new expansion content and all I can say is THANK YOU FUNCOM FOR PROMPTING SOE TO GIVE FREE GAME TIME!!!!!
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I wouldn't thank Funcom, I would thank your staying power, and SOE will thank you for that too.
I mean a couple of characters into the mid 20's ?
Thats barely touching, if at all some of the most fun and interestings area's and aspects in AoC.
But then again when your EQ2 content runs out, your always have 2/3rd's of AOC left to explore.
Good luck.
Yea, like what the hell does weak sauce EQ2 have over AoC? Don't they still have you taking forever to just cool your health/mana back up after a fight?
-High level instances, raiding for better gear
-The stats all do what they are supposed to do. In AoC Strength and Dexterity do nothing right now. Same with some of the skills -run speed, endurance, perception, etc.
-Much, much bigger zones
-More places to level, more quests to help you along with leveling
-Mounted combat actually WORKS in EQ2. The horses in AoC, while very realistic looking and cool, are buggy as hell right now.
-I can't remember a single, solitary quest in EQ2 that was bugged. Seriously. In AoC, have you tried the quest "Enter the Pyramid" yet? Or "The Wounded Child?"
I could go on for days but I wont, ive posted more today here than I have in the last 2 years. Because I am pretty disgusted with this game and since none of my friends play it, I have to rant to someone.
Well EQ2 has also been out a TON longer then AoC, so it figures that it has lesss bugs and more content.
Lokks like the game was released too soon, they should have tested and fixed more. Maybe that was because it was already delayed and they wanted to make money sooner. Still theres no excuse for so many bugs that i saw ppl complaining about and they might loose a lot of customers because of that.
Thanks for the info. Although its the wrong forum to inform people
Why do the SOE noses not advertise this by email ? Might be a nice filler for the summer hole.
everquest 2, yuck, i thought tortage was small, until i remembered everquest 2. in everquest 2 you can see all of your lvl 1-20 objects in one zone, nasty.
Thats just for the records and the sake of truth.
LOL! EQ2. You have any idea what a mess that game was when it was released?
You have put:
Currently Playing EQ2
Can't wait for: WAR and Stargate Worlds.
Quit: AoC, V:SoH, POTBS, TR, COH/COV, LOTRO, WOW, GW, DDO,AL, EQ, Eve, L2, AA, Mx0, SWG, SoR, AO, RFO, DAoC, and others.
Sounds to me like no Mmorg is going to keep you happy - your burn't out. Time to go do something else for a few years!
It's rated M (for Mature). Mature ppl have a work, family and so on mostly. So they will play maybe just 2-3 hours per day maximum. And it will be ok for them because Funcom is patching the game like mad. So content will come just in time.
If you're a school boy with no things to worry about and with a lot of free time because you're not visiting your school enough - it's your own problems. Playing a MMO game 24h/7d a week will lead you to cancel your subscription too soon
For example few years ago (then WoW was released) i had a lot of free time (if compare to now) but i had a work still. And after 5 months or so we've completed all 40 ppl raid dungeons, i've become a rogue in full tier 2 (first on Warsong EU) hmm with full t1 also and best gear that was available in game. i had pvp stuff that i wanted, i had exalted with all BG's and such. After that was boring farming and nothing more.
As for me i'm playing a MMO for as long as it needs to have done all things that i've interested in. If you're playing 24h/7d a week it will let you to move to another MMO soon. And there will be no enough MMO's for such ppl because it takes 2-3 years+ for development or more + a lot more than just development
Don't like - don't play. Don't be retard to post such topics before you finish with all that game allows you to accomplish.
I find this line of argument often. I'm grateful for the opportunity to have participated in the Beta and I didn't 'achieve' a lot in the beta (leveling), however I didn't see any reasons to invest more time or effort into an exercise I wasn't getting anything out of. I could list a myriad of reasons and could expect an equal number or response as to why I should either perceive things differently or more objectively.
AoC isn't going to be for your general MMO audience. I believe the game will cater to a niche group of players fitting into a certain PvP type play style. I personally don't like games based on book/movies as the games typically have to fit within the context and vision of the author/creator. To me that feels limiting. With a ground floor fantasy MMO you have the ability to create more and establish new content, characters, continents, abilities and races.
With AoC and with LoTRO you're dealing with a contrived concept and any 'new' content would disrupt that continuity.
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Lord of the Rings = 3 thin books or one fat book
Conan = much more than 100 books and it grows all the time with new authors. It's based on Howard's world but it's not limited to it at all. The way AoC may grow.... is the way our civilisation may grow and fly to the stars lol. They may add Atlantida, they may add classes like in "Slave of Mitra" the may add ashen Valusia, Acheron, Khitay (Chinese), Darfar, Kushan, Hyperborea, Asgards...... oh well.... it may last long for 100+ years. You have very very very limited content of all possibilies right now. It's just Cimmeria, Aquilonia and Stigia only.
More specifically I'm talking about entirely new races, continents, spells, abilities any number of different combinations not those within the context of the story line or potential progressive story line. With a ground floor fantasy MMO you can introduce 'new' content without the risk of effecting continuity.
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Well let's see--High level instances, raiding for better gear
There are several high level instances in AoC. You haven't seen them because you have only reached Old Tarantia. Your point is completely invalid.
-The stats all do what they are supposed to do. In AoC Strength and Dexterity do nothing right now. Same with some of the skills -run speed, endurance, perception, etc.
Actually, Dexterity and Strength both do something in AoC. Run speed makes you run faster. I know because I've witnessed it. Endurance lets you fight longer. Perception allows you to find hidden players if it is higher then their hide skill. Your point is again, invalid.
-Much, much bigger zones
AoC has rather large zones. And all of them are jam packed with detail. Not only that, since when did EQ2 have the visuals that AoC has? Oh yes, it doesn't.
-More places to level, more quests to help you along with leveling
I sure would hope a game like EQ2 has more areas to level in. I mean, AoC has only been out for two weeks. Are you expecting four expansions worth of content on day 1? Oh, by the way. There is a downloadable expansion coming out within the next few months. Chew on that.
-Mounted combat actually WORKS in EQ2. The horses in AoC, while very realistic looking and cool, are buggy as hell right now.
That's interesting. Saying they are buggy, yet you haven't reached level 40 to ride them. So, you're just talking out of your ass right now. At level 60, you start to get real moves for your mounts. What are you talking about?
-I can't remember a single, solitary quest in EQ2 that was bugged. Seriously. In AoC, have you tried the quest "Enter the Pyramid" yet? Or "The Wounded Child?"
Again, the game is two weeks old! There are literally less than a handful of bugged quests in AoC. I sure would hope a game that's been out as long as EQ2 would be able to fix most of it's bugs.
I could go on for days but I wont, ive posted more today here than I have in the last 2 years. Because I am pretty disgusted with this game and since none of my friends play it, I have to rant to someone.
No, You couldn't go on for days. That's the point. Most of what you have said is absolute garbage.You have the right to dislike the game. But don't go around telling lies about a game that you haven't even taken the time to experience. Half of the stuff you mentioned, you heard from other people. The other half are obvious when you're dealing with a game right after launch. This game has had an exceptional launch, you can't even deny that.
Go play your two months of EQ2. Whey do you think they are offering it? It's because all of their players are leaving! Ask yourself why that is. Anyways, go have fun. When you finish two weeks of game time and come running back to finish when you started here, don't expect a warm welcome.
I may sound like a parent by saying this..
But, you seriously need to think before speaking. You'll get farther in life, and look smarter in the long run.
I have a AoC toon in the 60s. It doesnt get better.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Mid-20s are actually about where AoC begins to go downhill with content, balance issues, etc. So I think he has experienced plenty to make his points valid.
-High level instances, raiding for better gear
There are several high level instances in AoC. You haven't seen them because you have only reached Old Tarantia. Your point is completely invalid.
Im level 63. The OP is right. There isnt a whole lot of isntances and certainly very little gear for raiding. His point is very valid.
-The stats all do what they are supposed to do. In AoC Strength and Dexterity do nothing right now. Same with some of the skills -run speed, endurance, perception, etc.
Actually, Dexterity and Strength both do something in AoC. Run speed makes you run faster. I know because I've witnessed it. Endurance lets you fight longer. Perception allows you to find hidden players if it is higher then their hide skill. Your point is again, invalid.
No they dont. The skills and attributes in AoC is borked right now. Its a fact. When you see gear thats +2 in Str the Devs said it really isn't working correctly right now and they are working on a fix. His point is very valid. Also endurance does not work right not either.
-Much, much bigger zones
AoC has rather large zones. And all of them are jam packed with detail. Not only that, since when did EQ2 have the visuals that AoC has? Oh yes, it doesn't.
Aoc zones are s-m-a-l-l. They are small zones jam packed with detail and past those details are invisible walls. EQ2 came out years before AoC so you cannot really make a visual comparison.
Plus, I would rather have great content versus pretty trees and roots.
-More places to level, more quests to help you along with leveling
I sure would hope a game like EQ2 has more areas to level in. I mean, AoC has only been out for two weeks. Are you expecting four expansions worth of content on day 1? Oh, by the way. There is a downloadable expansion coming out within the next few months. Chew on that.
AoC zones and areas are very small....even when compared to newly released MMOs. Chew on that
-Mounted combat actually WORKS in EQ2. The horses in AoC, while very realistic looking and cool, are buggy as hell right now.
That's interesting. Saying they are buggy, yet you haven't reached level 40 to ride them. So, you're just talking out of your ass right now. At level 60, you start to get real moves for your mounts. What are you talking about?
I have. And he's right. The mounts are buggy as hell when fighting on them. I am past lvl 60 and I agree with the OP
-I can't remember a single, solitary quest in EQ2 that was bugged. Seriously. In AoC, have you tried the quest "Enter the Pyramid" yet? Or "The Wounded Child?"
Again, the game is two weeks old! There are literally less than a handful of bugged quests in AoC. I sure would hope a game that's been out as long as EQ2 would be able to fix most of it's bugs.
True, quests can get buggy at first during release, but the things that turn me off is the community and the lack of emmersion
I could go on for days but I wont, ive posted more today here than I have in the last 2 years. Because I am pretty disgusted with this game and since none of my friends play it, I have to rant to someone.
No, You couldn't go on for days. That's the point. Most of what you have said is absolute garbage.You have the right to dislike the game.
Your last two sentences are contradictory. His comments are garbage but he has the right to dislike em? lol
But don't go around telling lies about a game that you haven't even taken the time to experience. Half of the stuff you mentioned, you heard from other people.
I have first hand experience from these issues and he is not lying.
The other half are obvious when you're dealing with a game right after launch. This game has had an exceptional launch, you can't even deny that.
So? What if they had a flawless launch? A flawless launch isnt going ot keep players. Depth and emmersion will keep players.
Go play your two months of EQ2. Whey do you think they are offering it? It's because all of their players are leaving!
Actually, they lost very little players. Sounds like the post really hurt your feelings a lot!
Ask yourself why that is. Anyways, go have fun. When you finish two weeks of game time and come running back to finish when you started here, don't expect a warm welcome.
lol, ohmygawd. You cannot be serious? Stop acting like a child!
But, you seriously need to think before speaking. You'll get farther in life, and look smarter in the long run.
Everything he said was correct. You were the one that sounded like a child who got his favorite toy picked on. I think you need to grow up a little and watch what you say. You may get ahead in life a little further if you think before speaking.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
-High level instances, raiding for better gear
There are several high level instances in AoC. You haven't seen them because you have only reached Old Tarantia. Your point is completely invalid.
Im level 63. The OP is right. There isnt a whole lot of isntances and certainly very little gear for raiding. His point is very valid.
-The stats all do what they are supposed to do. In AoC Strength and Dexterity do nothing right now. Same with some of the skills -run speed, endurance, perception, etc.
Actually, Dexterity and Strength both do something in AoC. Run speed makes you run faster. I know because I've witnessed it. Endurance lets you fight longer. Perception allows you to find hidden players if it is higher then their hide skill. Your point is again, invalid.
No they dont. The skills and attributes in AoC is borked right now. Its a fact. When you see gear thats +2 in Str the Devs said it really isn't working correctly right now and they are working on a fix. His point is very valid. Also endurance does not work right not either.
-Much, much bigger zones
AoC has rather large zones. And all of them are jam packed with detail. Not only that, since when did EQ2 have the visuals that AoC has? Oh yes, it doesn't.
Aoc zones are s-m-a-l-l. They are small zones jam packed with detail and past those details are invisible walls. EQ2 came out years before AoC so you cannot really make a visual comparison.
Plus, I would rather have great content versus pretty trees and roots.
-More places to level, more quests to help you along with leveling
I sure would hope a game like EQ2 has more areas to level in. I mean, AoC has only been out for two weeks. Are you expecting four expansions worth of content on day 1? Oh, by the way. There is a downloadable expansion coming out within the next few months. Chew on that.
AoC zones and areas are very small....even when compared to newly released MMOs. Chew on that
-Mounted combat actually WORKS in EQ2. The horses in AoC, while very realistic looking and cool, are buggy as hell right now.
That's interesting. Saying they are buggy, yet you haven't reached level 40 to ride them. So, you're just talking out of your ass right now. At level 60, you start to get real moves for your mounts. What are you talking about?
I have. And he's right. The mounts are buggy as hell when fighting on them. I am past lvl 60 and I agree with the OP
-I can't remember a single, solitary quest in EQ2 that was bugged. Seriously. In AoC, have you tried the quest "Enter the Pyramid" yet? Or "The Wounded Child?"
Again, the game is two weeks old! There are literally less than a handful of bugged quests in AoC. I sure would hope a game that's been out as long as EQ2 would be able to fix most of it's bugs.
True, quests can get buggy at first during release, but the things that turn me off is the community and the lack of emmersion
I could go on for days but I wont, ive posted more today here than I have in the last 2 years. Because I am pretty disgusted with this game and since none of my friends play it, I have to rant to someone.
No, You couldn't go on for days. That's the point. Most of what you have said is absolute garbage.You have the right to dislike the game.
Your last two sentences are contradictory. His comments are garbage but he has the right to dislike em? lol
But don't go around telling lies about a game that you haven't even taken the time to experience. Half of the stuff you mentioned, you heard from other people.
I have first hand experience from these issues and he is not lying.
The other half are obvious when you're dealing with a game right after launch. This game has had an exceptional launch, you can't even deny that.
So? What if they had a flawless launch? A flawless launch isnt going ot keep players. Depth and emmersion will keep players.
Go play your two months of EQ2. Whey do you think they are offering it? It's because all of their players are leaving!
Actually, they lost very little players. Sounds like the post really hurt your feelings a lot!
Ask yourself why that is. Anyways, go have fun. When you finish two weeks of game time and come running back to finish when you started here, don't expect a warm welcome.
lol, ohmygawd. You cannot be serious? Stop acting like a child!
But, you seriously need to think before speaking. You'll get farther in life, and look smarter in the long run.
Everything he said was correct. You were the one that sounded like a child who got his favorite toy picked on. I think you need to grow up a little and watch what you say. You may get ahead in life a little further if you think before speaking.
You spelled Immersion wrong. NP! Yes I have a life....sometimes.....time for CAKE AND BEER!!!!
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Guys, anyone remembers patch LU13 (i hope its was 13 at least). Something similar might happen with AoC. EQ2 is one of my favorite games and i hope AoC developes. We need some diversity in MMO's and AoC is nicely crafted so far. It just needs more work and probably an infamous LU13..
I think it's a little bigger than 2/3rds. Tortage and that area is roughly the same as conall's valley or the wildlands. There's closer to 7/8th left, more if you consider that this guy didn't get to siege or borderlands.
Well let's see--High level instances, raiding for better gear
There are several high level instances in AoC. You haven't seen them because you have only reached Old Tarantia. Your point is completely invalid.
Only reached Old Tarantia? Um actually I'm in the Eu mountains right now, about to hit level 58. Just completed the quest to kill the mammoths (brown, red, etc.)
-The stats all do what they are supposed to do. In AoC Strength and Dexterity do nothing right now. Same with some of the skills -run speed, endurance, perception, etc.
Actually, Dexterity and Strength both do something in AoC. Run speed makes you run faster. I know because I've witnessed it. Endurance lets you fight longer. Perception allows you to find hidden players if it is higher then their hide skill. Your point is again, invalid.
No they are broken. As well as having a cap on stats. Perception is broken. If run speed isnt broken then it's just a useless skill.
-Much, much bigger zones
AoC has rather large zones. And all of them are jam packed with detail. Not only that, since when did EQ2 have the visuals that AoC has? Oh yes, it doesn't.
Who's talking about visuals, I'm talking about the small amount of space that you can adventure on. Graphics in a game aren't everything you know.
-More places to level, more quests to help you along with leveling
I sure would hope a game like EQ2 has more areas to level in. I mean, AoC has only been out for two weeks. Are you expecting four expansions worth of content on day 1? Oh, by the way. There is a downloadable expansion coming out within the next few months. Chew on that.
Chew on this - at release, EQ2 was much, much bigger than AoC can ever hope to be. The size of explorable lands in AoC is downright pathetic. The dungeons are also crap. Cistern anyone?
-Mounted combat actually WORKS in EQ2. The horses in AoC, while very realistic looking and cool, are buggy as hell right now.
That's interesting. Saying they are buggy, yet you haven't reached level 40 to ride them. So, you're just talking out of your ass right now. At level 60, you start to get real moves for your mounts. What are you talking about?
Where in any of my posts did I say that I never hit level 40 or got out of old Tarantia. Actually thats interesting, You say I never left Old Tarantia yet Im level 40. Theres not enough content IN Old Tarantia to get me to level 40, is there? Nope.
-I can't remember a single, solitary quest in EQ2 that was bugged. Seriously. In AoC, have you tried the quest "Enter the Pyramid" yet? Or "The Wounded Child?"
Again, the game is two weeks old! There are literally less than a handful of bugged quests in AoC. I sure would hope a game that's been out as long as EQ2 would be able to fix most of it's bugs.
Wow you're a good spin doctor. A handful? And dont give me that crap that it's only been out for 2 weeks, the game has been under development and they can't even fix a quest where the only objective is to "Enter the Pyramid."
I could go on for days but I wont, ive posted more today here than I have in the last 2 years. Because I am pretty disgusted with this game and since none of my friends play it, I have to rant to someone.
No, You couldn't go on for days. That's the point. Most of what you have said is absolute garbage.You have the right to dislike the game. But don't go around telling lies about a game that you haven't even taken the time to experience. Half of the stuff you mentioned, you heard from other people. The other half are obvious when you're dealing with a game right after launch. This game has had an exceptional launch, you can't even deny that.
Go play your two months of EQ2. Whey do you think they are offering it? It's because all of their players are leaving! Ask yourself why that is. Anyways, go have fun. When you finish two weeks of game time and come running back to finish when you started here, don't expect a warm welcome.
I may sound like a parent by saying this..
But, you seriously need to think before speaking. You'll get farther in life, and look smarter in the long run.
Bullshit. I experienced all of what I said myself. Nice try though to make me look like someone who doesn't know what they are talking about, all because I talked badly about your precious AoC. And yea, ALL of Eq2's players are leaving arent they? Well I wouldn't even know, I haven't played EQ2 in years. I was just comparing the two games at release. The funny thing is I don't like EQ2, and would never play it again.
Next time you try to make someone look stupid, learn a little more about that person first. My character's name is Mercius on the Cimmeria server, search for me and you'll see my level and all that good stuff. Our guild is currently allied with the Hand of Set, who are at war with Avery's guild, the Acolytes. Does this sound like someone who "never got out of Old Tarantia?"
Yaaay! Quote colourz !
Do green colourz now plx !!
Haha well, I didn't start with the colors this time. I just had to counter his points, but I agree with you. I hate colored text too most of the time.
Different MMORPG game start-up. Same whining. Every MMO i've ever played was far from a flawless start. The content is always thin as you got to the upper levels. Once the game has been going for awhile all the new content will be max level and all the lower levels typically gets neglected. Rule flaws and unbalanced classes at different levels (particularly upper levels) is not new to a start-up MMO.
So as always the hyper-active obsessive goes rushing in playing the game like a mad race to max level. Find things here and there sparse on content or bugged and it gets worst as you climb the ladder of levels. At some point, depending on how obssessive compulsive they are they get to a point where they can't take it anymore and go back playing their original favorite game. Of course they have to whine and complain to any one that will listen or any forum that won't ban them. Until if/when the new game works out all the kinks out months later. Than usualy a friend or someone they know is playing it and they convince them to try it again. If they still don't like it, its because the developing company are idiots and it has nothing to do with personal preferences. Because in their juvenile world their opinion is right next the laws of gravity of science fact. But the most annoying. Is if they end up liking the game after the kinks have been worked out than they tell all the newbies that they have been playing the game since day one and have always loved it.