1. Late-game class balance was broken on just about every MMO I can think of upon release. DAOC, DDO, WOW, and EQ2. EVERY developer has had to change the class balances to their games. EVERYONE! 2. Game Mechanics ARE repetitive in EVERY GAME!! This is a stupid comment. Do you not hit the same button on a console controller everytime? Do you not type on the same keys everytime? Do you not need to rinse and repeat in every RPG? 3. Overall enjoyment factor is subjective. And since this is the case for you - you should NEVER come back to this game. The design of the game has been laid out. Take it or leave it. 4. Good, I'm glad you think AoC has potential to be a great game. Go purchase the MMO that makes YOU happy and comment about it in THEIR forums. Not here.
Right, right, a truly open mind we have.
1. Late game class balance was not this jinxed in WoW at release, for example. You'll realise just how useful your necro is once you hit 80.
2. Game mechanics are not THIS repetitive in most games. Again, this is a matter of opinion.
3. Never come back? This truly shows what kind of attitude you portray towards people with differing opinions. I'm sure you are a valuable part of the AoC community.
4. I am a paying subscriber to AoC and also a long-time member of MMORPG.com so I have every right to make my opinion heard on the AoC forums here. Just because you disagree does not give you the right to be dismissive and over-bearing.
1. You are full of crap. My hunter was broken from day one. The Assassin was over powered and had to be gimped because the Hunter could NEVER beat him. Let's not start with the Paladin which was alos WAY overpowered at the upper levels.
2. Please tell me ONE game that I don' t have to press the same button, or go about finishing a quest by some common means? Please?
3. Why come back when you clearly stated that the game isn't for you? I don't waste time talking in the EQ2 boards because I didn't like the game. I canceled and left. Period.
4. Your opinions are the same as the other 1,000s of posts here. Why add that 1,001th post complaining about the game. Funcom isn't going to redesign the game for you. It was designed the way it was years ago.
But AoC is still a Basically a Newborn Just i don't understand if you dont like it then don't play and don't speak...the game is not that bad it needs alot of work i'm gonna stick it tough...and wait around to see what happens you never know you may soon regret your decision to leave
Same logic applies to you too. If you like AoC so much, why arent you playing it? Go play it, stop coming here and stop posting.
There isn't a single issue that is game breaking dude. What I can't stand about the trolls is the unfounded and inaccurate complaints about the game. Not to mention, some of the complaints are common amoungst ALL MMOs and yet, AoC gets the flak! I can't WAIT for WAR so I can troll those threads! -M
Wrong. Right now there is a permanent mez bug- if a ranger or barbarian uses a mez on you and then runs away, you are stuck in a permanent mez state and have to log out and log back in. I would call that game breaking, wouldn't you?
I don't PVP, so guess what? In MY world, there is NO game-breaking bugs..
Then why come here? From what I've heard the Funcom forums seem like a great place to talk about AoC. So instead of coming here, why not go there and not deal with the problem?
That was a joke right? The AoC forums are the worst forums I've ever seen in my life.
Yes sir I was indeed being sarcastic.
Honestly, coming to this site means a fair opinion. It means both sides of the fence, and if you want a place to discuss the game because you like it with other people who like it, THIS AIN'T IT. Sorry, but there's too many "trolls" or "flamers". I mean I do agree, there's people that say "LOL THIS GAME SUX LAWLCAKE". They're trolls. No opinion, no facts, just mindless dribble. But someone who points out good and bad facts and says "No I don't like it right now, maybe later" is also labeled as a troll by at least 70% of AoC fans. Which is wrong.
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Not every MMO released has been a buggy, unfinished POS.
Yeah which one? I second that~!
Let's compare WoW and AoC at release.
The release of WoW was riddled with technical issues and bugs, class balance was much poorer than it is today and there wasn't that much end-game content. However, all in all once the technical issues were solved, it was damn fun to level up your character and play the game.
The release of AoC was technically superb, no major issues except standalone technical problems on specific machines. However, all in all, when taking in consideration the enviromental bugs, the combat system, ui and overall design coupled with the missing features at release, the game feels more like a fully functional open beta, a husk of a game, if you like. After the first 20 levels your options for progression are still very limited and content quickly runs out. For me the game feels hollow, not immersive and the fun factor certainly isn't there.
Again this is a matter of opinion and you might disagree completely.
Ok here we go, im saying people shot there mouths off when not needed be. Saying some thing is wrong with the game when it's the problem there saying is being fix'ed or not existant people need to learn that lvl'ing to lvl 20 and not liking some thing is becuase alot of people suffer from a thing called lack of commitment and i understand some players have maxed there char's out and still dont like the game. when they say some thing do they full out attack the game. i know i come to mmorpg.com to see what new releases are comming out and when you have games getting attacked i can turn some people away from even trying it.
And man you seem like maybe one of those people who would do that.
Soverign Malus some call me Blood hound is what other's say. I shall crush all opponents Father Death, Chaos Lord Rains tyranny. blanket of shadow, steel sword kissed by the blood of the unworthy. Foes Fall, Fields Of Red. - Soverign Malus " Father Death" Forever Shadow Sect.
From my experience on this board and many others, the people flamming AoC aren't doing it out of spit they are posting some very real and game breaking issues with this game.
There isn't a single issue that is game breaking dude.
What I can't stand about the trolls is the unfounded and inaccurate complaints about the game. Not to mention, some of the complaints are common amoungst ALL MMOs and yet, AoC gets the flak! I can't WAIT for WAR so I can troll those threads!
-M
Game breaking is subjective to the person playing the game.
If you like eating shit with a spoon, then sure maybe grinding from 50-80 is great fun!
For others this is a game stopper issue.
There are a few things in AoC that break the game for some people like I also hate the repetitive combat, the items stats do nothing, and the dead feel to the world. These are all game breaking issues to me.
I also know I am not alone in this issue as everyone I know that I play games with in RL have hit the cancel button already.
People can spam give it time all you want, but if a game isn't fun, it just isn't fun. Some will like it others won't. That is just the way it is.
Everyone should pass this around it goes great with AoC....
Not every MMO released has been a buggy, unfinished POS.
Yeah which one? I second that~!
Let's compare WoW and AoC at release.
The release of WoW was riddled with technical issues and bugs, class balance was much poorer than it is today and there wasn't that much end-game content. However, all in all once the technical issues were solved, it was damn fun to level up your character and play the game.
The release of AoC was technically superb, no major issues except standalone technical problems on specific machines. However, all in all, when taking in consideration the enviromental bugs, the combat system, ui and overall design coupled with the missing features at release, the game feels more like a fully functional open beta, a husk of a game, if you like. After the first 20 levels your options for progression are still very limited and content quickly runs out. For me the game feels hollow, not immersive and the fun factor certainly isn't there.
Again this is a matter of opinion and you might disagree completely.
LOL! Do you see the irony in your post?? "Once all the technical issues were solved..."
You admit the game wasn't perfect upon release and yet you were diligent enough to wait on the fixes. Did you also go into the boards and badger the game as you are doing with AoC before the fixes or did you just keep your mouth shut and wait on the fixes?
Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with the combat system. It isn't for everyone but it IS for me. I can't stand the AA of all the other MMOs.. it's what made me leave each and every game after only a few weeks of play.
1. You are full of crap. My hunter was broken from day one. The Assassin was over powered and had to be gimped because the Hunter could NEVER beat him. Let's not start with the Paladin which was alos WAY overpowered at the upper levels.
2. Please tell me ONE game that I don' t have to press the same button, or go about finishing a quest by some common means? Please?
3. Why come back when you clearly stated that the game isn't for you? I don't waste time talking in the EQ2 boards because I didn't like the game. I canceled and left. Period.
4. Your opinions are the same as the other 1,000s of posts here. Why add that 1,001th post complaining about the game. Funcom isn't going to redesign the game for you. It was designed the way it was years ago.
-M
Let me pose this question to you; How long have you been playing? Do you have a level 80?
I have been playing since the beginning of this year in beta, yes the game has improved by leaps and bounds, but it is simply not there yet. Give it a month and your opinion might change drastically.
Totally unrelated to our argument, might I suggest that before replying angrily, you could maybe weigh in what the other person has written and try to come up with a more thought-out response. This would make your posts substabtially more credible.
LOL! Do you see the irony in your post?? "Once all the technical issues were solved..." You admit the game wasn't perfect upon release and yet you were diligent enough to wait on the fixes. Did you also go into the boards and badger the game as you are doing with AoC before the fixes or did you just keep your mouth shut and wait on the fixes? Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with the combat system. It isn't for everyone but it IS for me. I can't stand the AA of all the other MMOs.. it's what made me leave each and every game after only a few weeks of play.
I'm referring to the game breaking technical issues that took Blizzard around a week to fix. Players also received free playtime for the downtime.
In terms of AoC, there are simply too many things that are broken, the game doesn't feel fluid and immersive but rather glitchy and unresponsive.
There are a few things in AoC that break the game for some people like I also hate the repetitive combat,
Repetitive combat??????
Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
There are a few things in AoC that break the game for some people like I also hate the repetitive combat,
Repetitive combat??????
Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but AoC takes repetitive button smashing to the next level.
i agree AoC has a new combat system that throws an interesting swing to fighting
Soverign Malus some call me Blood hound is what other's say. I shall crush all opponents Father Death, Chaos Lord Rains tyranny. blanket of shadow, steel sword kissed by the blood of the unworthy. Foes Fall, Fields Of Red. - Soverign Malus " Father Death" Forever Shadow Sect.
1. You are full of crap. My hunter was broken from day one. The Assassin was over powered and had to be gimped because the Hunter could NEVER beat him. Let's not start with the Paladin which was alos WAY overpowered at the upper levels.
2. Please tell me ONE game that I don' t have to press the same button, or go about finishing a quest by some common means? Please?
3. Why come back when you clearly stated that the game isn't for you? I don't waste time talking in the EQ2 boards because I didn't like the game. I canceled and left. Period.
4. Your opinions are the same as the other 1,000s of posts here. Why add that 1,001th post complaining about the game. Funcom isn't going to redesign the game for you. It was designed the way it was years ago.
-M
Let me pose this question to you; How long have you been playing? Do you have a level 80?
I have been playing since the beginning of this year in beta, yes the game has improved by leaps and bounds, but it is simply not there yet. Give it a month and your opinion might change drastically.
Totally unrelated to our argument, might I suggest that before replying angrily, you could maybe weigh in what the other person has written and try to come up with a more thought-out response. This would make your posts substabtially more credible.
I'm not trying to convince ANYONE of praising AoC. I've been in this MMO business too long and I don't have time for whiners. Don't take it personally.. I just feel that people will play what they like. I enjoyed WoW better than any other MMO out there, but alas, it got old for me. EVERY game gets old for me. But what I wanted in an MMO, I got in AoC. The game isn't for everyone, but that doesn't mean the game is bad. Nor does it deserve all the negative backlash it's getting on these boards either.
Wrong. Right now there is a permanent mez bug- if a ranger or barbarian uses a mez on you and then runs away, you are stuck in a permanent mez state and have to log out and log back in. I would call that game breaking, wouldn't you?
I don't PVP, so guess what? In MY world, there is NO game-breaking bugs..
Well whoopdy-doo for you, but a lot of us DO play on PVP servers. I play the game, I have some fun with it but I'm not a total tool who will sit here and say that there are no game breaking bugs of any kind. I like to keep it real, I'm not a fanboi of any game.
Well except for maybe the Resident Evil games. My god I can't wait for RE5, that game looks so great.
There are a few things in AoC that break the game for some people like I also hate the repetitive combat,
Repetitive combat??????
Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but AoC takes repetitive button smashing to the next level.
Every game is a button masher dude. Come up with something better please. If you don't want to be "active" in your fights, then get an auto-attack MMO. Just agree that that is ALSO a button-masher.
Wrong. Right now there is a permanent mez bug- if a ranger or barbarian uses a mez on you and then runs away, you are stuck in a permanent mez state and have to log out and log back in. I would call that game breaking, wouldn't you?
I don't PVP, so guess what? In MY world, there is NO game-breaking bugs..
Well whoopdy-doo for you, but a lot of us DO play on PVP servers. I play the game, I have some fun with it but I'm not a total tool who will sit here and say that there are no game breaking bugs of any kind. I like to keep it real, I'm not a fanboi of any game.
Well except for maybe the Resident Evil games. My god I can't wait for RE5, that game looks so great.
Nor am I being a fanboi. If there were game breaking issues with my experience, I would say so. It's relative to the player. I had inferior hardware when I bought this game and it was game-breaking for me because it ran so slow. So I went out and bought upgraded hardware and fixed it. It's no longer a game-breaking experience. I hate that the Barb's No Escape skill doesn' show a sword being thrown into the air and the sword sticking in the enemy.. but it damages the enemy like it's supposed to, so it's not game-breaking.. I can name a lot of issues with the game (as well as other games), but they aren't game breaking for me.
Ravkeen Ok here we go, im saying people shot there mouths off when not needed be. Saying some thing is wrong with the game when it's the problem there saying is being fix'ed or not existant people need to learn that lvl'ing to lvl 20 and not liking some thing is becuase alot of people suffer from a thing called lack of commitment and i understand some players have maxed there char's out and still dont like the game. when they say some thing do they full out attack the game. i know i come to mmorpg.com to see what new releases are comming out and when you have games getting attacked i can turn some people away from even trying it. And man you seem like maybe one of those people who would do that.
Ok I understand what your saying but when a game comes out people expect the game to be good or close to perfect not tons of bugs and problems. The reason why people are so pissed is because this game came out way to early if Funcom would have waited and polished the game more instead of saying we going to fix it later there wouldn't be people complaining about this game suck. I mean come on what company will release a incomplete game where your high level classes have nothing to do. Want me to tell you what company a company that’s trying to get a quick buck and don't give a damn about the people that play the game. That is why people are pissed and talking bad about this game that is why you see 9/10 topics on this forum is negative. Look at EAMythic that is a company that listen to the people many beta testers told them that the game wasn't ready and they pushed it back again and again. Because EAMythic want to be the best not just out for the quick buck.
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There are a few things in AoC that break the game for some people like I also hate the repetitive combat,
Repetitive combat??????
Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but AoC takes repetitive button smashing to the next level.
Every game is a button masher dude. Come up with something better please. If you don't want to be "active" in your fights, then get an auto-attack MMO. Just agree that that is ALSO a button-masher.
Have you guys looked at combat in the real world? Have you noticed its repetitive? You run behind a building, aim, shoot, maybe throw a grenade or something, run behind more cover, aim, shoot...rinse and repeat. Just try not to get shot either. I don't see soldiers running, shooting, then pulling out a sword and doing some melee hacking, then pulling out some giant warhammer and smashing everything to bits, then pulling out a spellbook and frying everything within a 100 yards. Now that wouldn't be repetitive but come on...
The key is how repetitive it feels. Whether you focus on your attacks or not, its still doing the same thing over and over. For some people that's more fun, for some people that's okay, for some people that's just an unecessary complication. Take a time out you two...
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
I agree, show me one MMORPG that doesnt have repetitive combat and I will be a happy man. Even everyone's precious SWG had repetitive combat. It's the nature of the beast.
All games are button mashers except pacman and pong, which were wrist movers but even still.
In AoC moving while in combat does nothing, you stand still toe to toe and try to get a combo off, if you try and run around your gimping yourself.
MUCH BETTER COMBAT GAMES.
Guild Wars - Guild Wars crushes AoC in combat and the damn game only has 8 SKILLS!!!!! at a time.
You know what tho you can run around and those combo you do with the 8 skills still work and do what they are ment to do. Leaps and bounds better combat in pvp than AoC.
DAoC - Old as dirt and you still have to link combos or strings of weapon skills together, but once again they WORK and actually do something.
WoW - free movement combat, no string together combos per say unless you count a gouge + backstab a combo but at least you have fast paced twitch combat that isn't bugged out of it's mind.
Hell even EQ2 has skill chains
FF11 - Group combo and chain skills that can be split between multiple players at once, giving of sense of worth while in combat.
AoC combat, 1. doesn't work properly or at all if you get mez bugged. 2. Is a series of left middle right button mashing 3. boring as hell.
Ravkeen Ok here we go, im saying people shot there mouths off when not needed be. Saying some thing is wrong with the game when it's the problem there saying is being fix'ed or not existant people need to learn that lvl'ing to lvl 20 and not liking some thing is becuase alot of people suffer from a thing called lack of commitment and i understand some players have maxed there char's out and still dont like the game. when they say some thing do they full out attack the game. i know i come to mmorpg.com to see what new releases are comming out and when you have games getting attacked i can turn some people away from even trying it. And man you seem like maybe one of those people who would do that.
Ok I understand what your saying but when a game comes out people expect the game to be good or close to perfect not tons of bugs and problems. The reason why people are so pissed is because this game came out way to early if Funcom would have waited and polished the game more instead of saying we going to fix it later there wouldn't be people complaining about this game suck. I mean come on what company will release a incomplete game where your high level classes have nothing to do. Want me to tell you what company a company that’s trying to get a quick buck and don't give a damn about the people that play the game. That is why people are pissed and talking bad about this game that is why you see 9/10 topics on this forum is negative. Look at EAMythic that is a company that listen to the people many beta testers told them that the game wasn't ready and they pushed it back again and again. Because EAMythic want to be the best not just out for the quick buck.
Your so wrong on so many levels--- it doesnt matter when it was released--how many bugs it had or lack thier of------------HATERS WILL HATE NO MATTER WHAT--thats what they do
If by judging by the population on servers-these haters/pissed people are such a tiny part of the community--the people who like the game are busy playing the haters are here posting thats why it looks like 9 out 10 post are hate posts
As long as people are talking, be it good or bad Funcom is doing something right because they have peoples intrest---its when people stop talking at all they need to start worrying
Look funcom has you here posting about a game you dont seem to like instead of playing one you do-- so they have pulled you away from another game to focus on thiers
People who truly undestand the life cycle of mmo games will enjoy aoc and all of its TEMPORARY FLAWS--If you hate a game because it has issues yet to be fixed then you have not played any mmo at release-EVERY MMO HAD FLAWS/BUGS/MISSING CONTENT at release-- thats just how things go-if you are one who sticks with it you will be rewarded in the end-- if you cant deal then your banished to being a hater in some forum-congrats
Then why come here? From what I've heard the Funcom forums seem like a great place to talk about AoC. So instead of coming here, why not go there and not deal with the problem?
That was a joke right? The AoC forums are the worst forums I've ever seen in my life.
I guess you didn't see many forums in your life or you are really young. To Ascens345345, I'll read what ever forum I like, thanks.
All games are button mashers except pacman and pong, which were wrist movers but even still. In AoC moving while in combat does nothing, you stand still toe to toe and try to get a combo off, if you try and run around your gimping yourself. MUCH BETTER COMBAT GAMES. Guild Wars - Guild Wars crushes AoC in combat and the damn game only has 8 SKILLS!!!!! at a time. You know what tho you can run around and those combo you do with the 8 skills still work and do what they are ment to do. Leaps and bounds better combat in pvp than AoC.
DAoC - Old as dirt and you still have to link combos or strings of weapon skills together, but once again they WORK and actually do something.
WoW - free movement combat, no string together combos per say unless you count a gouge + backstab a combo but at least you have fast paced twitch combat that isn't bugged out of it's mind.
Hell even EQ2 has skill chains
FF11 - Group combo and chain skills that can be split between multiple players at once, giving of sense of worth while in combat.
AoC combat, 1. doesn't work properly or at all if you get mez bugged. 2. Is a series of left middle right button mashing 3. boring as hell.
Oh well who cares right. It isn't for everyone.
Guild Wars isn't superior!! LOL! You button-mash the exact same way as you do any other MMO!
DAOC - again, nothing complicated there either! You still had auto-attack and you still strung combos together like you would AoC. Free movement doesn't make a bit of difference since you will be more than likely to miss anyway (just like AoC). DDO has a similar play style but is in realtime with NO auto-attack!
WOW - please, just like all the rest SWG, and Guild Wars
FFXI - the biggest grinding game outside of EQ2! Chain combos were pretty nice, but you had to enjoy something will you stood there with your party. It was pretty neat when you were with your party members, but the downside was that you were reliant on them for certain chain attacks. I don't like relying on anyone when I'm gaming.
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1. Late game class balance was not this jinxed in WoW at release, for example. You'll realise just how useful your necro is once you hit 80.
2. Game mechanics are not THIS repetitive in most games. Again, this is a matter of opinion.
3. Never come back? This truly shows what kind of attitude you portray towards people with differing opinions. I'm sure you are a valuable part of the AoC community.
4. I am a paying subscriber to AoC and also a long-time member of MMORPG.com so I have every right to make my opinion heard on the AoC forums here. Just because you disagree does not give you the right to be dismissive and over-bearing.
1. You are full of crap. My hunter was broken from day one. The Assassin was over powered and had to be gimped because the Hunter could NEVER beat him. Let's not start with the Paladin which was alos WAY overpowered at the upper levels.
2. Please tell me ONE game that I don' t have to press the same button, or go about finishing a quest by some common means? Please?
3. Why come back when you clearly stated that the game isn't for you? I don't waste time talking in the EQ2 boards because I didn't like the game. I canceled and left. Period.
4. Your opinions are the same as the other 1,000s of posts here. Why add that 1,001th post complaining about the game. Funcom isn't going to redesign the game for you. It was designed the way it was years ago.
-M
Same logic applies to you too. If you like AoC so much, why arent you playing it? Go play it, stop coming here and stop posting.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Wrong. Right now there is a permanent mez bug- if a ranger or barbarian uses a mez on you and then runs away, you are stuck in a permanent mez state and have to log out and log back in. I would call that game breaking, wouldn't you?
I don't PVP, so guess what? In MY world, there is NO game-breaking bugs..
That was a joke right? The AoC forums are the worst forums I've ever seen in my life.
Yes sir I was indeed being sarcastic.Honestly, coming to this site means a fair opinion. It means both sides of the fence, and if you want a place to discuss the game because you like it with other people who like it, THIS AIN'T IT. Sorry, but there's too many "trolls" or "flamers". I mean I do agree, there's people that say "LOL THIS GAME SUX LAWLCAKE". They're trolls. No opinion, no facts, just mindless dribble. But someone who points out good and bad facts and says "No I don't like it right now, maybe later" is also labeled as a troll by at least 70% of AoC fans. Which is wrong.
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
Let's compare WoW and AoC at release.Yeah which one? I second that~!
The release of WoW was riddled with technical issues and bugs, class balance was much poorer than it is today and there wasn't that much end-game content. However, all in all once the technical issues were solved, it was damn fun to level up your character and play the game.
The release of AoC was technically superb, no major issues except standalone technical problems on specific machines. However, all in all, when taking in consideration the enviromental bugs, the combat system, ui and overall design coupled with the missing features at release, the game feels more like a fully functional open beta, a husk of a game, if you like. After the first 20 levels your options for progression are still very limited and content quickly runs out. For me the game feels hollow, not immersive and the fun factor certainly isn't there.
Again this is a matter of opinion and you might disagree completely.
Ravkeen
Ok here we go, im saying people shot there mouths off when not needed be. Saying some thing is wrong with the game when it's the problem there saying is being fix'ed or not existant people need to learn that lvl'ing to lvl 20 and not liking some thing is becuase alot of people suffer from a thing called lack of commitment and i understand some players have maxed there char's out and still dont like the game. when they say some thing do they full out attack the game. i know i come to mmorpg.com to see what new releases are comming out and when you have games getting attacked i can turn some people away from even trying it.
And man you seem like maybe one of those people who would do that.
Soverign Malus some call me
Blood hound is what other's say.
I shall crush all opponents
Father Death, Chaos Lord Rains tyranny.
blanket of shadow, steel sword kissed by the blood of the unworthy. Foes Fall, Fields Of Red.
- Soverign Malus " Father Death" Forever Shadow Sect.
There isn't a single issue that is game breaking dude.
What I can't stand about the trolls is the unfounded and inaccurate complaints about the game. Not to mention, some of the complaints are common amoungst ALL MMOs and yet, AoC gets the flak! I can't WAIT for WAR so I can troll those threads!
-M
Game breaking is subjective to the person playing the game.
If you like eating shit with a spoon, then sure maybe grinding from 50-80 is great fun!
For others this is a game stopper issue.
There are a few things in AoC that break the game for some people like I also hate the repetitive combat, the items stats do nothing, and the dead feel to the world. These are all game breaking issues to me.
I also know I am not alone in this issue as everyone I know that I play games with in RL have hit the cancel button already.
People can spam give it time all you want, but if a game isn't fun, it just isn't fun. Some will like it others won't. That is just the way it is.
Everyone should pass this around it goes great with AoC....
Let's compare WoW and AoC at release.Yeah which one? I second that~!
The release of WoW was riddled with technical issues and bugs, class balance was much poorer than it is today and there wasn't that much end-game content. However, all in all once the technical issues were solved, it was damn fun to level up your character and play the game.
The release of AoC was technically superb, no major issues except standalone technical problems on specific machines. However, all in all, when taking in consideration the enviromental bugs, the combat system, ui and overall design coupled with the missing features at release, the game feels more like a fully functional open beta, a husk of a game, if you like. After the first 20 levels your options for progression are still very limited and content quickly runs out. For me the game feels hollow, not immersive and the fun factor certainly isn't there.
Again this is a matter of opinion and you might disagree completely.
LOL! Do you see the irony in your post?? "Once all the technical issues were solved..."
You admit the game wasn't perfect upon release and yet you were diligent enough to wait on the fixes. Did you also go into the boards and badger the game as you are doing with AoC before the fixes or did you just keep your mouth shut and wait on the fixes?
Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with the combat system. It isn't for everyone but it IS for me. I can't stand the AA of all the other MMOs.. it's what made me leave each and every game after only a few weeks of play.
-M
Let me pose this question to you; How long have you been playing? Do you have a level 80?
I have been playing since the beginning of this year in beta, yes the game has improved by leaps and bounds, but it is simply not there yet. Give it a month and your opinion might change drastically.
Totally unrelated to our argument, might I suggest that before replying angrily, you could maybe weigh in what the other person has written and try to come up with a more thought-out response. This would make your posts substabtially more credible.
I'm referring to the game breaking technical issues that took Blizzard around a week to fix. Players also received free playtime for the downtime.
In terms of AoC, there are simply too many things that are broken, the game doesn't feel fluid and immersive but rather glitchy and unresponsive.
Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but AoC takes repetitive button smashing to the next level.
i agree AoC has a new combat system that throws an interesting swing to fighting
Soverign Malus some call me
Blood hound is what other's say.
I shall crush all opponents
Father Death, Chaos Lord Rains tyranny.
blanket of shadow, steel sword kissed by the blood of the unworthy. Foes Fall, Fields Of Red.
- Soverign Malus " Father Death" Forever Shadow Sect.
-M
Let me pose this question to you; How long have you been playing? Do you have a level 80?
I have been playing since the beginning of this year in beta, yes the game has improved by leaps and bounds, but it is simply not there yet. Give it a month and your opinion might change drastically.
Totally unrelated to our argument, might I suggest that before replying angrily, you could maybe weigh in what the other person has written and try to come up with a more thought-out response. This would make your posts substabtially more credible.
I'm not trying to convince ANYONE of praising AoC. I've been in this MMO business too long and I don't have time for whiners. Don't take it personally.. I just feel that people will play what they like. I enjoyed WoW better than any other MMO out there, but alas, it got old for me. EVERY game gets old for me. But what I wanted in an MMO, I got in AoC. The game isn't for everyone, but that doesn't mean the game is bad. Nor does it deserve all the negative backlash it's getting on these boards either.
I don't PVP, so guess what? In MY world, there is NO game-breaking bugs..
Well whoopdy-doo for you, but a lot of us DO play on PVP servers. I play the game, I have some fun with it but I'm not a total tool who will sit here and say that there are no game breaking bugs of any kind. I like to keep it real, I'm not a fanboi of any game.Well except for maybe the Resident Evil games. My god I can't wait for RE5, that game looks so great.
Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but AoC takes repetitive button smashing to the next level.
Every game is a button masher dude. Come up with something better please. If you don't want to be "active" in your fights, then get an auto-attack MMO. Just agree that that is ALSO a button-masher.
I don't PVP, so guess what? In MY world, there is NO game-breaking bugs..
Well whoopdy-doo for you, but a lot of us DO play on PVP servers. I play the game, I have some fun with it but I'm not a total tool who will sit here and say that there are no game breaking bugs of any kind. I like to keep it real, I'm not a fanboi of any game.Well except for maybe the Resident Evil games. My god I can't wait for RE5, that game looks so great.
Nor am I being a fanboi. If there were game breaking issues with my experience, I would say so. It's relative to the player. I had inferior hardware when I bought this game and it was game-breaking for me because it ran so slow. So I went out and bought upgraded hardware and fixed it. It's no longer a game-breaking experience. I hate that the Barb's No Escape skill doesn' show a sword being thrown into the air and the sword sticking in the enemy.. but it damages the enemy like it's supposed to, so it's not game-breaking.. I can name a lot of issues with the game (as well as other games), but they aren't game breaking for me.
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Can you HONESTLY tell me an MMO that doesn't have REPETITIVE COMBAT???
Let's see:
Take ANY MMO - I walk up to a mob, press the left button to auto-attack, I watch the 2 or so animations with the hit points flashing on the screen. I press any number of 0-9 buttons to initiate a special attack move. Wait for cooldown.. rinse..and repeat.. until the mob is dead. On to the next mob.. and so and so..
This is what I'm talking about! Trollers complain about NORMAL gameplay!!!
Hell, I can load up GTA4 and press the same right button to raise my gun and fire the same trigger to see the weapon fire. Is that repetitive too? YES!!!!
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but AoC takes repetitive button smashing to the next level.
Every game is a button masher dude. Come up with something better please. If you don't want to be "active" in your fights, then get an auto-attack MMO. Just agree that that is ALSO a button-masher.
Have you guys looked at combat in the real world? Have you noticed its repetitive? You run behind a building, aim, shoot, maybe throw a grenade or something, run behind more cover, aim, shoot...rinse and repeat. Just try not to get shot either. I don't see soldiers running, shooting, then pulling out a sword and doing some melee hacking, then pulling out some giant warhammer and smashing everything to bits, then pulling out a spellbook and frying everything within a 100 yards. Now that wouldn't be repetitive but come on...
The key is how repetitive it feels. Whether you focus on your attacks or not, its still doing the same thing over and over. For some people that's more fun, for some people that's okay, for some people that's just an unecessary complication. Take a time out you two...
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
I agree, show me one MMORPG that doesnt have repetitive combat and I will be a happy man. Even everyone's precious SWG had repetitive combat. It's the nature of the beast.
All games are button mashers except pacman and pong, which were wrist movers but even still.
In AoC moving while in combat does nothing, you stand still toe to toe and try to get a combo off, if you try and run around your gimping yourself.
MUCH BETTER COMBAT GAMES.
Guild Wars - Guild Wars crushes AoC in combat and the damn game only has 8 SKILLS!!!!! at a time.
You know what tho you can run around and those combo you do with the 8 skills still work and do what they are ment to do. Leaps and bounds better combat in pvp than AoC.
DAoC - Old as dirt and you still have to link combos or strings of weapon skills together, but once again they WORK and actually do something.
WoW - free movement combat, no string together combos per say unless you count a gouge + backstab a combo but at least you have fast paced twitch combat that isn't bugged out of it's mind.
Hell even EQ2 has skill chains
FF11 - Group combo and chain skills that can be split between multiple players at once, giving of sense of worth while in combat.
AoC combat, 1. doesn't work properly or at all if you get mez bugged. 2. Is a series of left middle right button mashing 3. boring as hell.
Oh well who cares right. It isn't for everyone.
Your so wrong on so many levels--- it doesnt matter when it was released--how many bugs it had or lack thier of------------HATERS WILL HATE NO MATTER WHAT--thats what they doIf by judging by the population on servers-these haters/pissed people are such a tiny part of the community--the people who like the game are busy playing the haters are here posting thats why it looks like 9 out 10 post are hate posts
As long as people are talking, be it good or bad Funcom is doing something right because they have peoples intrest---its when people stop talking at all they need to start worrying
Look funcom has you here posting about a game you dont seem to like instead of playing one you do-- so they have pulled you away from another game to focus on thiers
People who truly undestand the life cycle of mmo games will enjoy aoc and all of its TEMPORARY FLAWS--If you hate a game because it has issues yet to be fixed then you have not played any mmo at release-EVERY MMO HAD FLAWS/BUGS/MISSING CONTENT at release-- thats just how things go-if you are one who sticks with it you will be rewarded in the end-- if you cant deal then your banished to being a hater in some forum-congrats
That was a joke right? The AoC forums are the worst forums I've ever seen in my life.
I guess you didn't see many forums in your life or you are really young. To Ascens345345, I'll read what ever forum I like, thanks.
Guild Wars isn't superior!! LOL! You button-mash the exact same way as you do any other MMO!
DAOC - again, nothing complicated there either! You still had auto-attack and you still strung combos together like you would AoC. Free movement doesn't make a bit of difference since you will be more than likely to miss anyway (just like AoC). DDO has a similar play style but is in realtime with NO auto-attack!
WOW - please, just like all the rest SWG, and Guild Wars
FFXI - the biggest grinding game outside of EQ2! Chain combos were pretty nice, but you had to enjoy something will you stood there with your party. It was pretty neat when you were with your party members, but the downside was that you were reliant on them for certain chain attacks. I don't like relying on anyone when I'm gaming.
I bet 50% of those 40% "lost a sub" guys didn't really play the game ;P
You should add a "i just wann see the results" answer.