Avery I have followed your posts about AoC for what seems like more than a year. And I can clearly see you are a diehard fan stepping in to save the day and constantly referring to how great a game it is since it launched.
And months before it launched. Doesn't speak much of his objectivity.
And especially when you pay 50$ , come home and find out that game does not work at all.
Why didnt they print a warning - AOC will not work with ATI graphic cards , AOC will not work with certain ISP's
(the list goes on ... check support forums)
And why didnt they print warning
"We lied about some things implemented in the game" ...
My guild finally build player city .... I didnt laugh so much in a very long time...
This is where reading the specs before you buy comes in at. It doesn't say anything about supporting ATI, it does however mention Nvida cards, I can attest to you though that ATI cards do work with the game before I bought my new vid card, I played the game with a Radeon x1900 and had no problems with the game. I was going to buy a new vid card anyhow, but it worked just fine on my old card.
Avery I have followed your posts about AoC for what seems like more than a year. And I can clearly see you are a diehard fan stepping in to save the day and constantly referring to how great a game it is since it launched. Considering you actually come off as an intelligent guy, it saddens me even more that you act as a proxy for a company who don't deliver basic, promised features of the game they produced. It really saddens me to read post over post about how great everything is. Never a balanced view or a critical statement. Don't you think it is time to ask yourself how much longer you want to act as the extended arm of Funcom's PR machine? Don't you ever have any bad taste in your mouth over the dealings and shortcomings of this company and their much hyped mmo? Funcom basically sold the game on DX10, brutal pvp, sieges and boobies. But made a game that only had boobies. They even lied and held back information about DX10 until game started and hundred of thousand copies were shipped. They held back that sieges weren't in the game. They held back that their instance system and complete lack of 45+ gameplay means that there is no brutal pvp, just random ganking on pvp servers. This is a game that not only is filled with bugs, but where the community receives almost no replies from development. Petitions are being deleted after 6-12 hours of customers waiting online. People send emails about problems that goes unanswered for 4+ days. etc. etc. etc. So I ask you Mr. Avery, is this really the company you want to act as proponent for? Making these continued fanboy threads, that reminds us of viral marketeering, isn't this bad for not just yourself, but also for potential newcomers to the game? Don't they deserve balanced or truthful reviews? And don't you COMPLETELY lack all credibility now after all these threads with no nuances about the game, just by you saying it is all "great great great"? You are part of hurting the mmo genre, by blindly supporting (yet another) company that pushed half finished crap on the marketplace. You - with your intelligence, knows perfectly well that major gaming sites have had huge banner placements about Age of Conan. How likely are they to publish negative reviews when they receive tons of marketing money? Have any other mmo (except Warcraft) used such a big marketing budget? These gaming sites receiving full page banner ads, would they shoot themselves in the foot with a truthful or negative review? Can anyone really write a review that is positive about what this game has to offer at level 40-80? What does this mmo has in this level range that most other mmos don't have better? I ask you again, to consider leaving this line of being Funcom's (un)paid apologist and forum champion! sincerely Draccan
(edited some typing / spelling errors)
Are you a stalker? lol anyways I actually found most of his posts very imformative and right on the money. What makes you any better or different from him? You flame the guy because he gives people honest feedback! Here is the simple answer for everyone that dislikes this game, say your piece and move on. I can never figure out why people that say that they dislike a game so much, yet they are still posting negative comments several weeks after they posted their hate and discontent for a game...makes no sense to me at all!!!
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
I didnt write the review, I posted it for clarification from a point of view of the other side of the fence. If you read my own comments in this topic I think i've been pretty fair.
Oh also I am so ever so sorry for enjoying a buggy game, where the content dips in the 50's a bit, where there are some graphical issues everynow and then and a broken quest here and there.
Like I said before I'll put my thoughts on paper, and have continuing to do so since release, when the key elements I listed earlier are experienced I'll put a review out there.
I didnt write the review, I posted it for clarification from a point of view of the other side of the fence. If you read my own comments in this topic I think i've been pretty fair. Oh also I am so ever so sorry for enjoying a buggy game, where the content dips in the 50's a bit, where there are some graphical issues everynow and then and a broken quest here and there. Like I said before I'll put my thoughts on paper, and have continuing to do so since release, when the key elements I listed earlier are experienced I'll put a review out there.
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
-------------------------------------- A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Ascension08
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
I didnt write the review, I posted it for clarification from a point of view of the other side of the fence. If you read my own comments in this topic I think i've been pretty fair. Oh also I am so ever so sorry for enjoying a buggy game, where the content dips in the 50's a bit, where there are some graphical issues everynow and then and a broken quest here and there. Like I said before I'll put my thoughts on paper, and have continuing to do so since release, when the key elements I listed earlier are experienced I'll put a review out there.
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
its obvious they were all "initial impressions" at the start, some places have updated their thoughts and until more reviews come out at a later date when everything is experienced only then should the reviewer really experienced what AoC has to offer. WoW had a review 9 months after release that gave it 65% is that right? Point is no review for AoC has really touched on many key elements that initally draws people to the game.
its obvious they were all "initial impressions" at the start, some places have updated their thoughts and until more reviews come out at a later date when everything is experienced only then should the reviewer really experienced what AoC has to offer. WoW had a review 9 months after release that gave it 65% is that right? Point is no review for AoC has really touched on many key elements that initally draws people to the game.
Well they would if these key elements were not haphazardly done, broken or all together missing.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I didnt write the review, I posted it for clarification from a point of view of the other side of the fence. If you read my own comments in this topic I think i've been pretty fair. Oh also I am so ever so sorry for enjoying a buggy game, where the content dips in the 50's a bit, where there are some graphical issues everynow and then and a broken quest here and there. Like I said before I'll put my thoughts on paper, and have continuing to do so since release, when the key elements I listed earlier are experienced I'll put a review out there.
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
its obvious they were all "initial impressions" at the start, some places have updated their thoughts and until more reviews come out at a later date when everything is experienced only then should the reviewer really experienced what AoC has to offer. WoW had a review 9 months after release that gave it 65% is that right? Point is no review for AoC has really touched on many key elements that initally draws people to the game.
I love the way you try to play it down and not respond. Not that you have to. It is a free world.
Just don't pretend to be neutral, pllleaaaasseee!
Your thread title took that wording for a reason. And your blind optimism.
Are you a stalker? lol anyways I actually found most of his posts very imformative and right on the money.
then you haven't played AoC for very long and never tried to do anything Funcom promised to implement besides undressing your female char and chopping heads off
What makes you any better or different from him? You flame the guy because he gives people honest feedback!
He criticizes, not flames him, because he and many others start suspecting that Avery is not that honest. And his feedback seems to come from another game or an AoC from a evil parallel universe
Here is the simple answer for everyone that dislikes this game, say your piece and move on. I can never figure out why people that say that they dislike a game so much, yet they are still posting negative comments several weeks after they posted their hate and discontent for a game...makes no sense to me at all!!!
I dislike being lied to repeatedly about almost all aspects of the game.
It's not just the bugs and the missing content, FunCom has just proven to me in the past couple of weeks that, while they may have the best of intentions, they are completely incapable of dealing with all of the issues. They have taken to patching twice a week. Sounds like a good plan, sounds like they are taking a pro-active step to fixing the game, right? In theory anyway. In practice each patch causes more issues than it fixes, and hidden behind the notes of bug fixes and content lie unannounced class balancing tweaks and other 'stealth nerfs'.
"An exhilarating online fantasy well worth your time and money"....I'm shocked by the title....If I want an exhilarating experience I would talk with my friends,I'd see some comic film/video,I'd even play or re-play some outdated videogame that I found amusing in certain ways.IMHO: ambiguous presentation and bad conclusion "most exhilarating release PC ever...".
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Draccan
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Ascension08
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
I didnt write the review, I posted it for clarification from a point of view of the other side of the fence. If you read my own comments in this topic I think i've been pretty fair. Oh also I am so ever so sorry for enjoying a buggy game, where the content dips in the 50's a bit, where there are some graphical issues everynow and then and a broken quest here and there. Like I said before I'll put my thoughts on paper, and have continuing to do so since release, when the key elements I listed earlier are experienced I'll put a review out there.
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
its obvious they were all "initial impressions" at the start, some places have updated their thoughts and until more reviews come out at a later date when everything is experienced only then should the reviewer really experienced what AoC has to offer. WoW had a review 9 months after release that gave it 65% is that right? Point is no review for AoC has really touched on many key elements that initally draws people to the game.
I love the way you try to play it down and not respond. Not that you have to. It is a free world.
Just don't pretend to be neutral, pllleaaaasseee!
Your thread title took that wording for a reason. And your blind optimism.
Anyways I wasn't expecting to reach you!
D.
The thread title is the same as the news article posted. just as the same as the negative ones floating around reportings downfall of the title.
I dont get what you cant see that im saying in the posts that I make. Its almost like you want me to say that AoC is a failure, and then it would agree with your thoughts on the game.
Sorry thats not going to happen. Right now it does some things great and some other things not so great.
Its not blind optimisim, my thoughts on the game are from my experiences with the game, sorry you can not process that!
Rough territory here, 50% fanbois and 50% "Please can we move on"...
I think everyone is just trying to point out that the game is not unique, even though it promised it would be. There's no added dimension to combat, only a mechanic that says I cannot look away. That's great but I've been playing this game for 6 years now, and if I can't look away I might end up shooting myself. Seriously, the fanbois are loosing it on this site.
It just shows the quality (or the lack thereof) of these forums now. Known trolls, the same ones who knowingly post lies or exaggerations and have for months, continue to post information about Age of Conan and it has been disproved time and time again. People, like myself, go in and use specific, detailed information to prove them wrong and we are called "fanbois".
Avery shares a review of the game that is a valid and fair review (just like reviews from many other places) and then has to defend himself and the review from people who want to make out Age of Conan as the scourge of gaming. Apparently, according to many of you in this thread, Funcom should apologize for making AOC and stop the game right now. Apparently, it is a crime against humanity to have an ongoing development of a video game. And Funcom is lucky to have paid off all gaming sites to propagandize their game to lie to people to get them to play the game. Does that sound about right?
Do some of you even listen to yourselves or read what you type? I have never read such a bunch of paranoid, "the world is out to get me", "Funcom's goal is to screw us all" crap in my life. The ignorance that permeates the comments in these forums only makes you dumber as you read it.
I mean, seriously, what is going on here? Are you mad that Funcom didn't make the game for you? Are you angry that the game is not a typical MMO? Are you upset that you didn't read the system requirements or description of the game and expected it to be WOW part 2?
It is time to get over yourselves and understand that people like or do not like the game. You do not see Avery or myself coming here and saying "OMGZ! AOC is the bestest game evah and you must play it like now b/c its better than anything else in this world". No, we post information that is fair to the game and admit the game has issues. However unlike many of you, we have faith that Funcom is listening and doing fine. Time to remove the tin-foil hats everyone and realize Funcom is just another gaming company.
Age of Conan is no different that most MMO's at release. It is not perfect (nor ever will be) and no other game will ever be perfect either. Anyone here understand that MMO's are UNFINISHED AND ALWAYS WILL BE?
Oh, but you say, AOC launched with promised features missing? So did many other games! Some big name games still have missing features. Does it make it right? No, but such is life. And unless you feel like taking on multi-million dollar companies head-on in court, there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. Oh, you say, they changed/revamped _______ before launch? So did many other games.
Oh, you say, there are bugs aplenty and things don't work? Find me a even remotely bugless MMO. Good luck with that.
Nobody here is saying Age of Conan is perfect but when you take it for what its worth, it is a very fun game and is a completely different MMO experience. Some will like it and some will hate it. No matter what I post or Avery posts or anyone posts, the decision to play or not to play; to like or not like; and to subscribe or not to subscribe to Age of Conan is left up to the individual player. I think Avery would agree with that. However, I think many of you believe it is your destiny to try and save the stupid, sheep-like masses from the great lie that is Age of Conan. You might see it like that but I see it as arrogance - people who believe their opinion is more valuable or important than someone else's. The game is out now and there is plenty of information for people to utilize in forming their opinion. To the people who post the same arguments over and over....Time to move on people - your posts are growing incredibly stale and increasingly repetitive. People are going to make up their own mind and there isn't a damn thing you or I can do about it.
The negative reviews are accurate. It merely depends on your expectations. It's undeniable that AoC lakcs polish, in fact that is its biggest downfall atm. The core is solid and good. Look at tortage, that was fun and well done. But AoC has a LONG way to go to live up to some people's expecations.
If your tolerance of bugs and lack of content is high, then there's a lot of fun in AoC, but it's just pretty limited. The lack of zones is an obvious indicator that the amount of stuff to do is limited... at this time.
As an mmo, I can't recommend AoC in its current state. I can recommend the game to people who enjoy a quest/level based fantasy rpg. There's enough there to satisfy someone for 50 bucks. As a subscription, there's just too many bugs, broken content, lack of content, and most importantly polish of what is actually there.
I think someday AoC will be a great game, just not right now.
I expected a fun game where I could particiapte in awesome combat and explore new lands. That was it and I am pleased.
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
I expected a fun game where I could particiapte in awesome combat and explore new lands. That was it and I am pleased.
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
I am no fanboi and if you read my post history, you would notice that I am as hard on AOC as many "trolls" but, unlike many of them, I have a fair and open mind. I do not expect perfection as many of them do. I did expect more out of the game, I just figured that all of things I did expect would be encompassed by the term "fun". I am not going to waste my time detailing my expectations here.
Is $15 that much? Really? What do you get for $15? Well it bought me a quarter of a steak last night. I got 2 movie tickets for $16 dollars today. I bought three books today that were about $15 each. I have 3 small bags of jelly-Belly's on my desk that were close to $15 total.
$15 a month breaks down to a little less than 50 cents a day. Well damn then - I will skip that Snickers bar tomorrow during my break. $15 doesn't go far anymore and I really do not have that many expectations for anything $15 can get you anymore.
Yes, the game is mediocre. I think WOW and LOTRO and TR and EQ2 are mediocre. Do I think they are worth $15? Nope, not anymore because I am bored with them and they are no longer fun for me. Is Age of Conan worth $15 to me? Sure is because, even in its current state, I find it fun and interesting. Perfect, no. Fun, yes.
And the trolls here "get" nothing beyond their own twisted view of the game. All they desire is the perfect game and they will continually be disappointed. I can't wait for the complaints and comments as to how imperfect WAR, Aion, TCOS and Darkfall will be. They will be disappointed again because those games will launch in a state equal to Age of Conan.
Woah, can t speak for Aion , TCOS, or darkfall, but i can tell you from abeta testers point of view. War is in a better state to release then AOC is now or probably 2-3 months from now. Also on the $15 a month, i agree it s not much, but to pay for IMO an incomplete game is wrong. Would you go to the movies if you could watch half of it now and the rest in a few months? Or would you eat a half eaten steak? I know i wouldn t.
And the trolls here "get" nothing beyond their own twisted view of the game. All they desire is the perfect game and they will continually be disappointed. I can't wait for the complaints and comments as to how imperfect WAR, Aion, TCOS and Darkfall will be. They will be disappointed again because those games will launch in a state equal to Age of Conan.
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Just for reference when both Aion and WAR launch in a much better state than AoC.
I expected a fun game where I could particiapte in awesome combat and explore new lands. That was it and I am pleased.
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
I am no fanboi and if you read my post history, you would notice that I am as hard on AOC as many "trolls" but, unlike many of them, I have a fair and open mind. I do not expect perfection as many of them do. I did expect more out of the game, I just figured that all of things I did expect would be encompassed by the term "fun". I am not going to waste my time detailing my expectations here.
Is $15 that much? Really? What do you get for $15? Well it bought me a quarter of a steak last night. I got 2 movie tickets for $16 dollars today. I bought three books today that were about $15 each. I have 3 small bags of jelly-Belly's on my desk that were close to $15 total.
$15 a month breaks down to a little less than 50 cents a day. Well damn then - I will skip that Snickers bar tomorrow during my break. $15 doesn't go far anymore and I really do not have that many expectations for anything $15 can get you anymore.
Yes, the game is mediocre. I think WOW and LOTRO and TR and EQ2 are mediocre. Do I think they are worth $15? Nope, not anymore because I am bored with them and they are no longer fun for me. Is Age of Conan worth $15 to me? Sure is because, even in its current state, I find it fun and interesting. Perfect, no. Fun, yes.
And the trolls here "get" nothing beyond their own twisted view of the game. All they desire is the perfect game and they will continually be disappointed. I can't wait for the complaints and comments as to how imperfect WAR, Aion, TCOS and Darkfall will be. They will be disappointed again because those games will launch in a state equal to Age of Conan.
Woah, can t speak for Aion , TCOS, or darkfall, but i can tell you from abeta testers point of view. War is in a better state to release then AOC is now or probably 2-3 months from now. Also on the $15 a month, i agree it s not much, but to pay for IMO an incomplete game is wrong. Would you go to the movies if you could watch half of it now and the rest in a few months? Or would you eat a half eaten steak? I know i wouldn t.
I think what Temp was getting at is the way people hype themselves up for a game that is yet to release only to be let down because the game isnt exactly what they 'imagined' it would be like.
Also a game can be really good in beta, but once it goes live a ton of unexpected crap can happen and cause people to flip out.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I expected a fun game where I could particiapte in awesome combat and explore new lands. That was it and I am pleased.
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
I am no fanboi and if you read my post history, you would notice that I am as hard on AOC as many "trolls" but, unlike many of them, I have a fair and open mind. I do not expect perfection as many of them do. I did expect more out of the game, I just figured that all of things I did expect would be encompassed by the term "fun". I am not going to waste my time detailing my expectations here.
Is $15 that much? Really? What do you get for $15? Well it bought me a quarter of a steak last night. I got 2 movie tickets for $16 dollars today. I bought three books today that were about $15 each. I have 3 small bags of jelly-Belly's on my desk that were close to $15 total.
$15 a month breaks down to a little less than 50 cents a day. Well damn then - I will skip that Snickers bar tomorrow during my break. $15 doesn't go far anymore and I really do not have that many expectations for anything $15 can get you anymore.
Yes, the game is mediocre. I think WOW and LOTRO and TR and EQ2 are mediocre. Do I think they are worth $15? Nope, not anymore because I am bored with them and they are no longer fun for me. Is Age of Conan worth $15 to me? Sure is because, even in its current state, I find it fun and interesting. Perfect, no. Fun, yes.
And the trolls here "get" nothing beyond their own twisted view of the game. All they desire is the perfect game and they will continually be disappointed. I can't wait for the complaints and comments as to how imperfect WAR, Aion, TCOS and Darkfall will be. They will be disappointed again because those games will launch in a state equal to Age of Conan.
Woah, can t speak for Aion , TCOS, or darkfall, but i can tell you from abeta testers point of view. War is in a better state to release then AOC is now or probably 2-3 months from now. Also on the $15 a month, i agree it s not much, but to pay for IMO an incomplete game is wrong. Would you go to the movies if you could watch half of it now and the rest in a few months? Or would you eat a half eaten steak? I know i wouldn t.
I think what Temp was getting at is the way people hype themselves up for a game that is yet to release only to be let down because the game isnt exactly what they 'imagined' it would be like.
Also a game can be really good in beta, but once it goes live a ton of unexpected crap can happen and cause people to flip out.
True, o agree but the core mechanics are there is all i ll say Yes people hype themselves up alot i agree. That said i m pretty confident without getting too excited that WAR is safe
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And months before it launched. Doesn't speak much of his objectivity.
I tried it and I cancelled it.
AoC will never get big. It will have a decent fan base but nothing big. Other new releases will eventually crush it.
If it ain't dead you're not pressing 2 hard enough.
I think it is
And especially when you pay 50$ , come home and find out that game does not work at all.
Why didnt they print a warning - AOC will not work with ATI graphic cards , AOC will not work with certain ISP's
(the list goes on ... check support forums)
And why didnt they print warning
"We lied about some things implemented in the game" ...
My guild finally build player city .... I didnt laugh so much in a very long time...
This is where reading the specs before you buy comes in at. It doesn't say anything about supporting ATI, it does however mention Nvida cards, I can attest to you though that ATI cards do work with the game before I bought my new vid card, I played the game with a Radeon x1900 and had no problems with the game. I was going to buy a new vid card anyhow, but it worked just fine on my old card.
Are you a stalker? lol anyways I actually found most of his posts very imformative and right on the money. What makes you any better or different from him? You flame the guy because he gives people honest feedback! Here is the simple answer for everyone that dislikes this game, say your piece and move on. I can never figure out why people that say that they dislike a game so much, yet they are still posting negative comments several weeks after they posted their hate and discontent for a game...makes no sense to me at all!!!
I didnt write the review, I posted it for clarification from a point of view of the other side of the fence. If you read my own comments in this topic I think i've been pretty fair.
Oh also I am so ever so sorry for enjoying a buggy game, where the content dips in the 50's a bit, where there are some graphical issues everynow and then and a broken quest here and there.
Like I said before I'll put my thoughts on paper, and have continuing to do so since release, when the key elements I listed earlier are experienced I'll put a review out there.
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
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A human and an Elf get captured by Skaven. The rat-men are getting ready to shoot the first hostage with Dwarf-made guns when he yells, "Earthquake!" The naturally nervous Skaven run and hide from the imaginary threat. He escapes. The Skaven regroup and bring out the Elf. Being very smart, the Elf has figured out what to do. When the Skaven get ready to shoot, the Elf, in order to scare them, yells, "Fire!"
Order of the White Border.
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
its obvious they were all "initial impressions" at the start, some places have updated their thoughts and until more reviews come out at a later date when everything is experienced only then should the reviewer really experienced what AoC has to offer. WoW had a review 9 months after release that gave it 65% is that right? Point is no review for AoC has really touched on many key elements that initally draws people to the game.
Well they would if these key elements were not haphazardly done, broken or all together missing.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
its obvious they were all "initial impressions" at the start, some places have updated their thoughts and until more reviews come out at a later date when everything is experienced only then should the reviewer really experienced what AoC has to offer. WoW had a review 9 months after release that gave it 65% is that right? Point is no review for AoC has really touched on many key elements that initally draws people to the game.
I love the way you try to play it down and not respond. Not that you have to. It is a free world.
Just don't pretend to be neutral, pllleaaaasseee!
Your thread title took that wording for a reason. And your blind optimism.
Anyways I wasn't expecting to reach you!
D.
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This review is of Tortage, theres no voice acting outside tortage and quests dry up. Why would you take this seriously?
Are you a stalker? lol anyways I actually found most of his posts very imformative and right on the money.
then you haven't played AoC for very long and never tried to do anything Funcom promised to implement besides undressing your female char and chopping heads off
What makes you any better or different from him? You flame the guy because he gives people honest feedback!
He criticizes, not flames him, because he and many others start suspecting that Avery is not that honest. And his feedback seems to come from another game or an AoC from a evil parallel universe
Here is the simple answer for everyone that dislikes this game, say your piece and move on. I can never figure out why people that say that they dislike a game so much, yet they are still posting negative comments several weeks after they posted their hate and discontent for a game...makes no sense to me at all!!!
I dislike being lied to repeatedly about almost all aspects of the game.
Loved AoC the first week...
Liked it the second...
Was getting bored of it the third...
Week four...
Subscription Cancelled.
It's not just the bugs and the missing content, FunCom has just proven to me in the past couple of weeks that, while they may have the best of intentions, they are completely incapable of dealing with all of the issues. They have taken to patching twice a week. Sounds like a good plan, sounds like they are taking a pro-active step to fixing the game, right? In theory anyway. In practice each patch causes more issues than it fixes, and hidden behind the notes of bug fixes and content lie unannounced class balancing tweaks and other 'stealth nerfs'.
"An exhilarating online fantasy well worth your time and money"
....I'm shocked by the title
....If I want an exhilarating experience I would talk with my friends,I'd see some comic film/video,I'd even play or re-play some outdated videogame that I found amusing in certain ways.IMHO: ambiguous presentation and bad conclusion "most exhilarating release PC ever...".
All I notice is how about 3 days after release about 80% of the reviews were all 9/10, 94%, way up there. Now a few weeks after release they drop to 7.8, 7/10, some even lower than that...do you think they're showing both sides of the fence, or are they only listing the issues because it's not a 9/10 like it was before?
its obvious they were all "initial impressions" at the start, some places have updated their thoughts and until more reviews come out at a later date when everything is experienced only then should the reviewer really experienced what AoC has to offer. WoW had a review 9 months after release that gave it 65% is that right? Point is no review for AoC has really touched on many key elements that initally draws people to the game.
I love the way you try to play it down and not respond. Not that you have to. It is a free world.
Just don't pretend to be neutral, pllleaaaasseee!
Your thread title took that wording for a reason. And your blind optimism.
Anyways I wasn't expecting to reach you!
D.
The thread title is the same as the news article posted. just as the same as the negative ones floating around reportings downfall of the title.
I dont get what you cant see that im saying in the posts that I make. Its almost like you want me to say that AoC is a failure, and then it would agree with your thoughts on the game.
Sorry thats not going to happen. Right now it does some things great and some other things not so great.
Its not blind optimisim, my thoughts on the game are from my experiences with the game, sorry you can not process that!
Rough territory here, 50% fanbois and 50% "Please can we move on"...
I think everyone is just trying to point out that the game is not unique, even though it promised it would be. There's no added dimension to combat, only a mechanic that says I cannot look away. That's great but I've been playing this game for 6 years now, and if I can't look away I might end up shooting myself. Seriously, the fanbois are loosing it on this site.
The negative reviews are accurate. It merely depends on your expectations. It's undeniable that AoC lakcs polish, in fact that is its biggest downfall atm. The core is solid and good. Look at tortage, that was fun and well done. But AoC has a LONG way to go to live up to some people's expecations.
If your tolerance of bugs and lack of content is high, then there's a lot of fun in AoC, but it's just pretty limited. The lack of zones is an obvious indicator that the amount of stuff to do is limited... at this time.
As an mmo, I can't recommend AoC in its current state. I can recommend the game to people who enjoy a quest/level based fantasy rpg. There's enough there to satisfy someone for 50 bucks. As a subscription, there's just too many bugs, broken content, lack of content, and most importantly polish of what is actually there.
I think someday AoC will be a great game, just not right now.
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
I am no fanboi and if you read my post history, you would notice that I am as hard on AOC as many "trolls" but, unlike many of them, I have a fair and open mind. I do not expect perfection as many of them do. I did expect more out of the game, I just figured that all of things I did expect would be encompassed by the term "fun". I am not going to waste my time detailing my expectations here.
Is $15 that much? Really? What do you get for $15? Well it bought me a quarter of a steak last night. I got 2 movie tickets for $16 dollars today. I bought three books today that were about $15 each. I have 3 small bags of jelly-Belly's on my desk that were close to $15 total.
$15 a month breaks down to a little less than 50 cents a day. Well damn then - I will skip that Snickers bar tomorrow during my break. $15 doesn't go far anymore and I really do not have that many expectations for anything $15 can get you anymore.
Yes, the game is mediocre. I think WOW and LOTRO and TR and EQ2 are mediocre. Do I think they are worth $15? Nope, not anymore because I am bored with them and they are no longer fun for me. Is Age of Conan worth $15 to me? Sure is because, even in its current state, I find it fun and interesting. Perfect, no. Fun, yes.
And the trolls here "get" nothing beyond their own twisted view of the game. All they desire is the perfect game and they will continually be disappointed. I can't wait for the complaints and comments as to how imperfect WAR, Aion, TCOS and Darkfall will be. They will be disappointed again because those games will launch in a state equal to Age of Conan.
Woah, can t speak for Aion , TCOS, or darkfall, but i can tell you from abeta testers point of view. War is in a better state to release then AOC is now or probably 2-3 months from now. Also on the $15 a month, i agree it s not much, but to pay for IMO an incomplete game is wrong. Would you go to the movies if you could watch half of it now and the rest in a few months? Or would you eat a half eaten steak? I know i wouldn t.
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Just for reference when both Aion and WAR launch in a much better state than AoC.
STOP WHINING!
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
I am no fanboi and if you read my post history, you would notice that I am as hard on AOC as many "trolls" but, unlike many of them, I have a fair and open mind. I do not expect perfection as many of them do. I did expect more out of the game, I just figured that all of things I did expect would be encompassed by the term "fun". I am not going to waste my time detailing my expectations here.
Is $15 that much? Really? What do you get for $15? Well it bought me a quarter of a steak last night. I got 2 movie tickets for $16 dollars today. I bought three books today that were about $15 each. I have 3 small bags of jelly-Belly's on my desk that were close to $15 total.
$15 a month breaks down to a little less than 50 cents a day. Well damn then - I will skip that Snickers bar tomorrow during my break. $15 doesn't go far anymore and I really do not have that many expectations for anything $15 can get you anymore.
Yes, the game is mediocre. I think WOW and LOTRO and TR and EQ2 are mediocre. Do I think they are worth $15? Nope, not anymore because I am bored with them and they are no longer fun for me. Is Age of Conan worth $15 to me? Sure is because, even in its current state, I find it fun and interesting. Perfect, no. Fun, yes.
And the trolls here "get" nothing beyond their own twisted view of the game. All they desire is the perfect game and they will continually be disappointed. I can't wait for the complaints and comments as to how imperfect WAR, Aion, TCOS and Darkfall will be. They will be disappointed again because those games will launch in a state equal to Age of Conan.
Woah, can t speak for Aion , TCOS, or darkfall, but i can tell you from abeta testers point of view. War is in a better state to release then AOC is now or probably 2-3 months from now. Also on the $15 a month, i agree it s not much, but to pay for IMO an incomplete game is wrong. Would you go to the movies if you could watch half of it now and the rest in a few months? Or would you eat a half eaten steak? I know i wouldn t.
I think what Temp was getting at is the way people hype themselves up for a game that is yet to release only to be let down because the game isnt exactly what they 'imagined' it would be like.
Also a game can be really good in beta, but once it goes live a ton of unexpected crap can happen and cause people to flip out.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
You expected a mediocre game, and you admittedly got one. Why are you surprised other people are not in awe of it, or they simply felt the game wasn't as promised? Some people expect more than combat and exploration out of a game that has a required 15 dollar a month price tag. Heck, you can do that in D&L.
The "trolls" get it. You fanbois don't. I am very happy you are easily amused, but some of us aren't.
I am no fanboi and if you read my post history, you would notice that I am as hard on AOC as many "trolls" but, unlike many of them, I have a fair and open mind. I do not expect perfection as many of them do. I did expect more out of the game, I just figured that all of things I did expect would be encompassed by the term "fun". I am not going to waste my time detailing my expectations here.
Is $15 that much? Really? What do you get for $15? Well it bought me a quarter of a steak last night. I got 2 movie tickets for $16 dollars today. I bought three books today that were about $15 each. I have 3 small bags of jelly-Belly's on my desk that were close to $15 total.
$15 a month breaks down to a little less than 50 cents a day. Well damn then - I will skip that Snickers bar tomorrow during my break. $15 doesn't go far anymore and I really do not have that many expectations for anything $15 can get you anymore.
Yes, the game is mediocre. I think WOW and LOTRO and TR and EQ2 are mediocre. Do I think they are worth $15? Nope, not anymore because I am bored with them and they are no longer fun for me. Is Age of Conan worth $15 to me? Sure is because, even in its current state, I find it fun and interesting. Perfect, no. Fun, yes.
And the trolls here "get" nothing beyond their own twisted view of the game. All they desire is the perfect game and they will continually be disappointed. I can't wait for the complaints and comments as to how imperfect WAR, Aion, TCOS and Darkfall will be. They will be disappointed again because those games will launch in a state equal to Age of Conan.
Woah, can t speak for Aion , TCOS, or darkfall, but i can tell you from abeta testers point of view. War is in a better state to release then AOC is now or probably 2-3 months from now. Also on the $15 a month, i agree it s not much, but to pay for IMO an incomplete game is wrong. Would you go to the movies if you could watch half of it now and the rest in a few months? Or would you eat a half eaten steak? I know i wouldn t.
I think what Temp was getting at is the way people hype themselves up for a game that is yet to release only to be let down because the game isnt exactly what they 'imagined' it would be like.
Also a game can be really good in beta, but once it goes live a ton of unexpected crap can happen and cause people to flip out.
True, o agree but the core mechanics are there is all i ll say
Yes people hype themselves up alot i agree. That said i m pretty confident without getting too excited that WAR is safe 