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  • dakota123dakota123 Member Posts: 93

    Ok, it is called trolling to go and post on another games forums and put it down, trying to create a meaningless debate over simple opinions.

    I dont care if you dont like it, and I am sure that many other people feel the same way, sorry to be so blunt.

    I will answer the above posters questions as best as I can with a list of a few details that make the game lifelike and such. Just because I like answering questions, not because I want to debate more.

    -Graphics(of course) just adds a better sense of realism, and engagement to a game. Allows you to feel more a part of it.

    -Real human acts and gestures. There are automatic gestures and such, which are not triggered by an emote, but which happen automaticly. These include swatting at flies, surveying the land, ect. Very cool feature, just a fun little detail.

    -Fluid Motions, most games dont have this anymore, especially WoW, the motions are very choppy, and dont work well, With aion, everything is fluid, movement seems real, fighting seems real, everything works very well.

    -Abyss ing general, especially fortress seiges and large scale PvP battles. It is very large, and will be the spot for alot of fun in the game.

    -Both Instanced and Non Instanced dungeons, such as, a raid, you may have to compete for, and fight with another raid group for a boss ect.

    -A very good community, yes we do have the occasional trollers and such on Aionsource, but in general, the community of Aion is very friendlt, and full of good natured people.

    -PvPvE, putting a very good aspect, and an aspect of Epicness to the game, making it so that your choises, and battles affect the game. The baular will make their decisions depending on what happens in the game.

    -Great crafting system. -It is simple, but challenging, it serves a purpose, as you will get most of your items from it. SUpposed to be very fun and entertaining.

    -Player Housing will be in the game, maybe not at release, but in a patch soon after.

    -Huge level of customization, you can make a weapon look like anything you want through craftiong and combibing items, you can pick and choose the skin of the weapons and armor for instance. There is also the stigmas, which will make almost every character different with their skills. And a great character customization which may rival CoX

    -More fast paced and skill based PvP, more movement required, and more strategy. Engaging, and entertaining combat.

    This is all I care mentioning at this time, because it is time to eat :), someone else will gladly fill in more, And please. Hopefully it has answered a few questions f yours, thank you, And Have a nice day.

  • ZetherinZetherin Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by dakota123


    Ok, it is called trolling to go and post on another games forums and put it down, trying to create a meaningless debate over simple opinions.
    I dont care if you dont like it, and I am sure that many other people feel the same way, sorry to be so blunt.
    I will answer the above posters questions as best as I can with a list of a few details that make the game lifelike and such. Just because I like answering questions, not because I want to debate more.
    -Graphics(of course) just adds a better sense of realism, and engagement to a game. Allows you to feel more a part of it.
    -Real human acts and gestures. There are automatic gestures and such, which are not triggered by an emote, but which happen automaticly. These include swatting at flies, surveying the land, ect. Very cool feature, just a fun little detail.
    -Fluid Motions, most games dont have this anymore, especially WoW, the motions are very choppy, and dont work well, With aion, everything is fluid, movement seems real, fighting seems real, everything works very well.
    -Abyss ing general, especially fortress seiges and large scale PvP battles. It is very large, and will be the spot for alot of fun in the game.
    -Both Instanced and Non Instanced dungeons, such as, a raid, you may have to compete for, and fight with another raid group for a boss ect.
    -A very good community, yes we do have the occasional trollers and such on Aionsource, but in general, the community of Aion is very friendlt, and full of good natured people.
    -PvPvE, putting a very good aspect, and an aspect of Epicness to the game, making it so that your choises, and battles affect the game. The baular will make their decisions depending on what happens in the game.
    -Great crafting system. -It is simple, but challenging, it serves a purpose, as you will get most of your items from it. SUpposed to be very fun and entertaining.
    -Player Housing will be in the game, maybe not at release, but in a patch soon after.
    -Huge level of customization, you can make a weapon look like anything you want through craftiong and combibing items, you can pick and choose the skin of the weapons and armor for instance. There is also the stigmas, which will make almost every character different with their skills. And a great character customization which may rival CoX
    -More fast paced and skill based PvP, more movement required, and more strategy. Engaging, and entertaining combat.
    This is all I care mentioning at this time, because it is time to eat :), someone else will gladly fill in more, And please. Hopefully it has answered a few questions f yours, thank you, And Have a nice day.

     

    Thank you.

    Well, it definitely sounds great. I'll continue to do my own research, and hopefully it lives up to all you say.

    I'd really love to have another great MMO to play once again.

  • GalgamemnonGalgamemnon Member Posts: 115

    OK, so, i only post when i have something decent to say, in this case its a decent flaming.

     

    Oben (the topic poster) only has a total of 15 posts on this website, i know this may sound ignorant but that doesn't seem like enough forum experience to flame a game he hasn't even read about, he saw a screenshot with a winged character and it was low quality therefore looking like L2, a common mistake but going on about how thats the only feature? Come on, from what ive read they're even adding flying combat (arial battles!?! sweet!)

    As for the rudeness of the whole post and the excessive ignorance used in it i just dont think this is how post should look, shame on you Oben.

     

    Must be one of them 10 year olds from WoW, SHAZAM!

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  • ObenOben Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by Galgamemnon


    OK, so, i only post when i have something decent to say, in this case its a decent flaming.
     
    Oben (the topic poster) only has a total of 15 posts on this website, i know this may sound ignorant but that doesn't seem like enough forum experience to flame a game he hasn't even read about, he saw a screenshot with a winged character and it was low quality therefore looking like L2, a common mistake but going on about how thats the only feature? Come on, from what ive read they're even adding flying combat (arial battles!?! sweet!)
    As for the rudeness of the whole post and the excessive ignorance used in it i just dont think this is how post should look, shame on you Oben.
     
    Must be one of them 10 year olds from WoW, SHAZAM!


    lol. That's all I have to say to you.

     

    Anyway back to the two previous intelligent posters: 

    When I meant a heaven vs hell plot, it meant to be relating to, not literally.  As I've read, the two "races" are both human yet are different in one being more angelical and one being more demonic.  And two: Theres player buildings?  Can you elaborate on that a bit more?  You said theres player housing, but is there player merchants, player cities, player hirelings, etc.  I've always loved player controlled territories and buildings but few games have it, and the games that do have it, are completely out of date (shadowbane, how i miss you) As well, I should have mentioned before, I am not a combat specialist, nor am I looking for eyecandy,  I look for games that have a player controlled economy, and player buildings.

    Also with the wings... I know it's a timed thing, but I'm just trying to say, wings aren't like a big achievement as persay something you get at the last of your level.

     

  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860

    Player housing is something considered for future expansions, or atleast, it was reported like that by a Ncsoft guy.

    There are NPC who will defend your fortresses and controlled artifacts (artifacts, for those who don't know, allow your faction to put a dent on your enemy faction's defence by transforming them into frogs, getting away their ability to fly inside fortresses, to hit them with DOTs, etc, there are many artifacts affecting different zones and each one has a different effect.)

    The faction owning a fortress will have priviledge over certain hunting zones in the abyss, and the economy is there, AHs are quite used already during beta, and there are player shops if you want to sell something outside of the cities, like selling potions on a popular hunting zone so people don't have to go back to town.

    There are taxes for owning a fortress, people will buy from the vendors in the abyss, and a % of that money will go to the legion controlling that zone. Fortresses also give your faction direct access to certain zones, which are hard to get to otherwise.

    The Abyss system is deffinetly a well thought out and solid concept, and all of that is being tested already with good results.

  • SoulSurferSoulSurfer Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
    Originally posted by Oben


    I just looove how you guys react to my original post



     

    Stoped reading after these few words.

  • ObenOben Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by SoulSurfer

    Originally posted by Oben


    I just looove how you guys react to my original post



     

    Stoped reading after these few words.

     

    and thats why you're a "hardcore" troller. You put no contribution to any post and litter forums with your exact phrase.

  • SoulSurferSoulSurfer Member UncommonPosts: 1,024

    I regret reading all of the words in your first post, and judging how the second one started out, why even bother? 

  • suu141suu141 Member Posts: 249
    Originally posted by Oben

    Originally posted by SoulSurfer

    Originally posted by Oben


    I just looove how you guys react to my original post



     

    Stoped reading after these few words.

     

    and thats why you're a "hardcore" troller. You put no contribution to any post and litter forums with your exact phrase.

     

     

    I could say the same to you. All this thread is about: "I'm not happy since this game doesn't revolve around me". Unfortunately, it's impossible to make a game where everyone is happy, so, I'm sorry if NCSoft thinks you're "nothing special" by not adding a bunch of player controlled 'stuff' or whatever makes you happy. You're a thousand years too early if you think game devs can implement whatever they want.

     

    Next time, don't judge a game by it's cover. You make it sound like if you take away the wings and graphics, it'll have nothing? Those two are just icing on the cake. It's all the tiny insignificant details when combined, makes the game.

    Instead of wasting your breath here, you should go tell Stray Bullet and Ubisoft to hurry up and make Shadowbane 2.

     

    "When you're born you're naked, when you die you're naked again, and in-between all we do is work, eat, and play MMOs." ~Forum Warrior #141

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182

    I really wonder why people insist on making these threads.

    You think the game is nothing special and it doesn't seem appealing to you? Fine, no problem, then go post in the section of a game you DO enjoy or are looking forward to.

    I mean, do you honnestly think we're all waiting for you to come here and tell us how you think this game is "nothing special"? People come here to learn about the game or to talk about it because their excited about it.

    It's really a shame the negative attitude usually found in sections like WAR, age of Conan and darkfall is starting to spread here, we had a nice little community here. Oh well, it was fun while it last i guess.

  • DawnJWDawnJW Member Posts: 108
    Originally posted by Gameloading


    I really wonder why people insist on making these threads.
    You think the game is nothing special and it doesn't seem appealing to you? Fine, no problem, then go post in the section of a game you DO enjoy or are looking forward to.
    I mean, do you honnestly think we're all waiting for you to come here and tell us how you think this game is "nothing special"? People come here to learn about the game or to talk about it because their excited about it.
    It's really a shame the negative attitude usually found in sections like WAR, age of Conan and darkfall is starting to spread here, we had a nice little community here. Oh well, it was fun while it last i guess.

     

    Right, and now...

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  • HerodesHerodes Member UncommonPosts: 1,494


    It's really a shame the negative attitude usually found in sections like WAR, age of Conan and darkfall is starting to spread here, we had a nice little community here.

    Currently playing:
    World of Warcraft


    ;)

  • ObenOben Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by SoulSurfer


    I regret reading all of the words in your first post, and judging how the second one started out, why even bother? 

     

    You realize you're proving my point, right? Keep adding the exact thing you said in your previous post, and times that by about 147, and thats exactly how you got how many posts you have, and your rank.  Congrats, you're an official troller.

  • -aLpHa--aLpHa- Member UncommonPosts: 852

    I am not sure but don't they use Crytek engine while L2 use UT engine? How can there be the same Graphic?

  • ObenOben Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by -aLpHa-


    I am not sure but don't they use Crytek engine while L2 use UT engine? How can there be the same Graphic?

     

    Look at the screenshots yourself, I'm not going to justify their "new" graphics, but I've said before, I don't care about graphics.  Just because it's a new engine doesn't mean its far off from the comparable engine.  Example: The glares they use accordingly to the sun look exactly like the same.

  • blackhand231blackhand231 Member Posts: 69

    dude oben just shush if you see a game and you dont like thats fine, but you dont need to go to forums for the game and express your hate for it. just mind your own buisness theres always gonna be people who dont like a game and if your one of them cool,  just dont go around telling the people who cant wait for the game to be released that its trash. if you do that your just begging for people to start something with you so just end it and leave the Aion forums and go to the forums for the game you like so you can see people post bad things about your game.

  • VirinVirin Member Posts: 32

    OP - So you don't like it... ok fine then don't play it.  No big deal no one is holding a gun to your head making you play it.  You are making assumptions and sprinkling in facts here and there to make it seem like you know what is going on. 

    So I have some questions for you.  What is your point?  Why does it matter? What do you expect? If you have so many ideas on how games should be made why aren't you making them?

     

     

  • SoulSurferSoulSurfer Member UncommonPosts: 1,024
    Originally posted by Oben

    Originally posted by SoulSurfer


    I regret reading all of the words in your first post, and judging how the second one started out, why even bother? 

     

    You realize you're proving my point, right? Keep adding the exact thing you said in your previous post, and times that by about 147, and thats exactly how you got how many posts you have, and your rank.  Congrats, you're an official troller.



     

    Nobody cares about your point.  Wanna keep goin? I can do this all day long...

  • xephonicsxephonics Member UncommonPosts: 672
    Originally posted by Virin


    OP - So you don't like it... ok fine then don't play it.  No big deal no one is holding a gun to your head making you play it.  You are making assumptions and sprinkling in facts here and there to make it seem like you know what is going on. 
    So I have some questions for you.  What is your point?  Why does it matter? What do you expect? If you have so many ideas on how games should be made why aren't you making them?
     
     

     

    QFT

    If you don't like it leave/don't play. Pretty simple :P

    Plenty of other games you can play/complain about.  Atleast spread your vast knowledge on how games should be made in every forum.  I'm sure everyone will enjoy your depths of knowledge on the gaming world.

    My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.

  • ObenOben Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by SoulSurfer
    Nobody cares about your point.  Wanna keep goin? I can do this all day long...

     

    We'll see who cares about your spamming.  :)

    Originally posted by xephonics

    QFT
    If you don't like it leave/don't play. Pretty simple :P
    Plenty of other games you can play/complain about.  Atleast spread your vast knowledge on how games should be made in every forum.  I'm sure everyone will enjoy your depths of knowledge on the gaming world.
    Originally posted by Virin


    OP - So you don't like it... ok fine then don't play it.  No big deal no one is holding a gun to your head making you play it.  You are making assumptions and sprinkling in facts here and there to make it seem like you know what is going on. 
    So I have some questions for you.  What is your point?  Why does it matter? What do you expect? If you have so many ideas on how games should be made why aren't you making them?
     
     
    Originally posted by blackhand231


    dude oben just shush if you see a game and you dont like thats fine, but you dont need to go to forums for the game and express your hate for it. just mind your own buisness theres always gonna be people who dont like a game and if your one of them cool,  just dont go around telling the people who cant wait for the game to be released that its trash. if you do that your just begging for people to start something with you so just end it and leave the Aion forums and go to the forums for the game you like so you can see people post bad things about your game.

     

    Lets see, Why am I complaining about a game and why am I not playing a game that I like?  That's simple, maybe because there are no good games out?  Why else would I be criticizing a game, to judge it for my self and giving a reason for Aion lovers to contradict me and put in their two cents, but obviously people with half a brain would react by insulting me.  (By the way, read the rules of conduct, it helps for you people who will receive warnings). But really, why do you guys care that I criticize this game anyway? Would it change your view?  Obviously not, so then why care. 

    And for the question to referring why am I not a game maker: Haha, that's precious.  Making games isn't just about the idea, you can't get a job with just your imagination, programming is a complicated and relatively difficult deal that I have no care for, (I tried it, I made a relatively simple diablo game, I can do it, but it is so incredibly boring that it makes me sleep when I think about it).

  • EphimeroEphimero Member Posts: 1,860

    OP's points have already been replied by me and others, there's no reason to keep this going.

  • CreepingDoomCreepingDoom Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by Oben



    Lets see, Why am I complaining about a game and why am I not playing a game that I like?  That's simple, maybe because there are no good games out? 
    You should take a break from mmorpgs, you are burnt out and it shows.
    Why else would I be criticizing a game, to judge it for my self and giving a reason for Aion lovers to contradict me and put in their two sense, but obviously people with half a brain would react by insulting me.  (By the way, read the rules of conduct, it helps for you people who will receive warnings).
    Now thats rich, you insult others while criticizing them for the same behaviour you are in the process of engaging in. To add insult to injury, you incorrectly use the term "two sense" when the term itself is "two cents", referring to two one cent coins.
    If you are going to belittle someone by making a callous comment like "people with half a brain", then perhaps you should spend the time making certain that you yourself are "working with a full deck", as the saying goes.
    You acknowledge that you are reporting people who disagree with you and strongly word there opinions, common sense would lead one to believe you are here strictly to incite flames and troll the forum. Your little "I'm a ten year old tattle tale" attitude makes it all to clear.


    But really, why do you guys care that I criticize this game anyway? Would it change your view?  Obviously not, so then why care. 
    In that same regard, if you don't think the game is anything special, have no intent to play, and obviously dislike the game - why are you even posting here? you admit that you know it will not change peoples opinions, so what is your motive other than to incite a flame war?
    And for the question to referring why am I not a game maker: Haha, that's precious.  Making games isn't just about the idea, you can't get a job with just your imagination, programming is a complicated and relatively difficult deal that I have no care for, (I tried it, I made a relatively simple diablo game, I can do it, but it is so incredibly boring that it makes me sleep when I think about it).
    You haven't coded a line in your life sir, you are not fooling anyone with your tall tales.
    /sarcasm on
    I work for NASA in my spare time and travel to new worlds in hopes of finding new and lost civilizations, where I may one day boldly go where no man has gone before!
    /sarcasm off
    Show us what you have done, put your money where your mouth is and perhaps you'll be able to remove your foot from it. Until then your credibility is beyond non-existent.
    You are a straight up troll, nothing more.

     

    Rock a FailCom avatar now and express your disgust with pride!

    The truth hurts...
    Funcom RX

  • Djpyro21Djpyro21 Member Posts: 12

    Creeping Doom 1, Oben... whos Oben?

  • VirinVirin Member Posts: 32
    Originally posted by Oben

    Originally posted by SoulSurfer
    Nobody cares about your point.  Wanna keep goin? I can do this all day long...

     

    We'll see who cares about your spamming.  :)

    Originally posted by xephonics

    QFT
    If you don't like it leave/don't play. Pretty simple :P
    Plenty of other games you can play/complain about.  Atleast spread your vast knowledge on how games should be made in every forum.  I'm sure everyone will enjoy your depths of knowledge on the gaming world.
    Originally posted by Virin


    OP - So you don't like it... ok fine then don't play it.  No big deal no one is holding a gun to your head making you play it.  You are making assumptions and sprinkling in facts here and there to make it seem like you know what is going on. 
    So I have some questions for you.  What is your point?  Why does it matter? What do you expect? If you have so many ideas on how games should be made why aren't you making them?
     
     
    Originally posted by blackhand231


    dude oben just shush if you see a game and you dont like thats fine, but you dont need to go to forums for the game and express your hate for it. just mind your own buisness theres always gonna be people who dont like a game and if your one of them cool,  just dont go around telling the people who cant wait for the game to be released that its trash. if you do that your just begging for people to start something with you so just end it and leave the Aion forums and go to the forums for the game you like so you can see people post bad things about your game.

    Lets see, Why am I complaining about a game and why am I not playing a game that I like?  That's simple, maybe because there are no good games out?  Why else would I be criticizing a game, to judge it for my self and giving a reason for Aion lovers to contradict me and put in their two sense, but obviously people with half a brain would react by insulting me.  (By the way, read the rules of conduct, it helps for you people who will receive warnings). But really, why do you guys care that I criticize this game anyway? Would it change your view?  Obviously not, so then why care. 

    And for the question to referring why am I not a game maker: Haha, that's precious.  Making games isn't just about the idea, you can't get a job with just your imagination, programming is a complicated and relatively difficult deal that I have no care for, (I tried it, I made a relatively simple diablo game, I can do it, but it is so incredibly boring that it makes me sleep when I think about it).

     

    Granted I wasn't trained in game design but we did discuss it in a few classes during my animation degree and it's more than coding.  Unlike large scale motion pictures, games are created with a relatively small number of people.  Those people have to do more than just code, there is design of the environments/characters, keying of the animation, special effects, texturing and lighting... there is so much that goes into it and it is far from boring.  It is pretty difficult to get into, even with schooling, but if you applied yourself to it as much as you do your poor forum trolling attempts I'm sure you'd do just fine.  Once you have your foot in the door daily meetings about the progress of the game are great times to make suggestions and then BANG you may just have created the game YOU like.

     

    Back to the topic at hand.  I have seen some screenshot that look... well horrible.  However, I have seen others that look amazing.  Spent time watching game play video while killing time that amazes me... and most people I know. I don't want to get my hopes up too high for any game because 9 times out of 10 I get let down but this one looks to be the next best thing, for me.  Not for everyone apparently but I am looking forward to it and my fiancee is also looking forward to it and she stopped playing after EQ because everything else that's been out since she didn't like.

  • Deadhead905Deadhead905 Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by Oben


    Thats all I see in this game, NCsoft's originality is almost to the point of bloody beating a dead rat with a sledge hammer.
    Only thing I see new in this game is wings, oooohhh wings, whoopiediefreaking-do.  It looks like the same graphics as L2, the classes are all the simpliest things any 3 year old can imagine, and to make things even more un-interesting, theres 2 factions.  oh wait, no.. dont tell me... are they... FIGHTING AGAINST EACHOTHER? NO wai. omgodz.  Even the lore is as bland and boring as watching 60 minutes for the entire hour.
     
     

     

    If you're going to make fun of a game make sure that you do some some research first...

    Well I don't really mind that you don't like the game, just one less immature player to worry about.

     

    PEACE.

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