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Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up

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FORMER NASA astronaut and moon-walker Dr Edgar Mitchell - a veteran of the Apollo 14 mission - has stunningly claimed aliens exist.

And he says extra-terrestrials have visited Earth on several occasions - but the alien contact has been repeatedly covered up by governments for six decades.


Dr Mitchell, 77, said during a radio interview that sources at the space agency who had had contact with aliens described the beings as 'little people who look strange to us.'


He said supposedly real-life ET's were similar to the traditional image of a small frame, large eyes and head.


Chillingly, he claimed our technology is "not nearly as sophisticated" as theirs and "had they been hostile", he warned "we would be been gone by now".


Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17 minutes following their 1971 mission.


"I happen to have been privileged enough to be in on the fact that we've been visited on this planet and the UFO phenomena is real," Dr Mitchell said.


"It's been well covered up by all our governments for the last 60 years or so, but slowly it's leaked out and some of us have been privileged to have been briefed on some of it.


"I've been in military and intelligence circles, who know that beneath the surface of what has been public knowledge, yes - we have been visited. Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a bit."




Dr Mitchell, who has a Bachelor of Science degree in aeronautical engineering and a Doctor of Science degree in Aeronautics and Astronautics claimed Roswell was real and similar alien visits continue to be investigated.


He told the astonished Kerrang! radio host Nick Margerrison: "This is really starting to open up. I think we're headed for real disclosure and some serious organisations are moving in that direction."


Mr Margerrison said: "I thought I'd stumbled on some sort of astronaut humour but he was absolutely serious that aliens are definitely out there and there's no debating it."


Officials from NASA, however, were quick to play the comments down.


In a statement, a spokesman said: "NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is not involved in any sort of cover up about alien life on this planet or anywhere in the universe.


'Dr Mitchell is a great American, but we do not share his opinions on this issue.'

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  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627

    /facepalm ::shakes her head:: 

  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    Originally posted by Teala


    /facepalm ::shakes her head:: 

    I'm curious.  Explain what you mean.

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  • Not such a great revelation...but I congratulate him for his courage.

     

    Only an american moron would believe that we're alone in the universe!

  • BobCrazytonBobCrazyton Member UncommonPosts: 2,117
    Originally posted by poopypants


    Only an american moron would believe that we're alone in the universe!

     

    I don't think people are questioning whether or not we're alone in the universe, just if we've been visited by them.

  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627
    Originally posted by poopypants


    Not such a great revelation...but I congratulate him for his courage.
     
    Only an american moron would believe that we're alone in the universe!



     

    I think there must be lots of life out there.   I just don't think they have visited us - ever.

  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729

    Buzz Aldrin came out a lonng time ago

    youtube.com/watch

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  • olddaddyolddaddy Member Posts: 3,356

    Moon-walker....I thought that this was a Michael Jackson story......

    By the way, I didn't realize that Buzz Aldrin was gay, I must have missed his coming out.......

     

  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    Originally posted by poopypants


    Not such a great revelation...but I congratulate him for his courage.
     
    Only an american moron would believe that we're alone in the universe!

    What's up with the "American" comment?  I was rolling right along with you until you added that.

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  • gnomexxxgnomexxx Member Posts: 2,920
    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by poopypants


    Not such a great revelation...but I congratulate him for his courage.
     
    Only an american moron would believe that we're alone in the universe!



     

    I think there must be lots of life out there.   I just don't think they have visited us - ever.

    What about all the countless sightings and stories people have told about abduction?  I kind of look at all of those sightings and wonder if it's more believable that many people are just seeing things.  It only takes one of those sightings to be true to prove they were here.

    I also look at all the ancients stories about things in the sky and even some of the creation stories and could see where they could be describing visitors.

    I'm not saying I believe either way, I just think that it's a very intriguing thing to ponder.  And with the tons of evidence and individuals with stories it makes it even more interesting.

    I've wondered sometimes too if it could be future humans coming back in time and observing us.  That would explain the different kinds of ships.  As time in the future goes on, the technology would advance and the new late model time traveling automobiles would come out from the manufacturers. 

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  • xDarcxDarc Member Posts: 211

    They're real.  I had a close encounter almost 4 years ago now.  Basically, a silent bright blue right triangle of light flew over my car at 5mph and about 40 feet off the ground.  It then followed me for 2 miles before taking off like a bullet and dissapearing miles away into a "vanishing point" in less than a second.  It also did not emit light.  Think of a light bulb that was bright to look at but the rest of the room remained pitch black.  It did not emit light but it was bright to look at. 

    Alien technology to be sure.  End of story.

    P.S.  The thing was as big as a house.  I sometimes forget to include all the details because every time I think about it im right there again and I see everything fresh.  It left quite an impression on me.

    Im getting lots of cysts on my body now.  Starting to wonder if I got irriadiated or something.  Ain't got no health insurance.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918

    If I was an astronaut I would totally tell lies about alien sightings for two reasons:

     

    If it's not true, then NASA and the US Gov can't do anything to him for leaking secrets that don't exist

    It's great publicity and money

     

    There's two reasons why I don't take stuff like this seriously.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • War_EagleWar_Eagle Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 472
    Originally posted by Draenor


    If I was an astronaut I would totally tell lies about alien sightings for two reasons:
     
    If it's not true, then NASA and the US Gov can't do anything to him for leaking secrets that don't exist
    It's great publicity and money
     
    There's two reasons why I don't take stuff like this seriously.

    You're calling him a liar?  I know some people are cynical, I guess I've always been what people would call naive.  I tend to lean towards believing someone until they give me reason otherwise.  Especially someone like him who has his public reputation to consider.

    The only time I am not believing of what someone tells me is when it is just obvious they are lying.  I think for the most part people are or at least try their hardest to be honest.  You probably think I'm naive though.  Oh well, just the way I am.  Kind of always been that way.

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  • VioletteViolette Member UncommonPosts: 119
    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by poopypants


    Not such a great revelation...but I congratulate him for his courage.
     
    Only an american moron would believe that we're alone in the universe!



     

    I think there must be lots of life out there.   I just don't think they have visited us - ever.

    Why discount the thousands of reports from sane people who had all seen the same thing at the same time? Just because you haven't seen them, is not a good enough excuse to think they haven't visited us.

  • DraenorDraenor Member UncommonPosts: 7,918
    Originally posted by War_Eagle

    Originally posted by Draenor


    If I was an astronaut I would totally tell lies about alien sightings for two reasons:
     
    If it's not true, then NASA and the US Gov can't do anything to him for leaking secrets that don't exist
    It's great publicity and money
     
    There's two reasons why I don't take stuff like this seriously.

    You're calling him a liar?  I know some people are cynical, I guess I've always been what people would call naive.  I tend to lean towards believing someone until they give me reason otherwise.  Especially someone like him who has his public reputation to consider.

    The only time I am not believing of what someone tells me is when it is just obvious they are lying.  I think for the most part people are or at least try their hardest to be honest.  You probably think I'm naive though.  Oh well, just the way I am.  Kind of always been that way.



     

    Yes, I'm calling him a liar.

    The only time I believe what someone tells me is if I have reasonable evidence proving it...I'm not asking for 100% irrefutable proof, but with this alien stuff, they have nothing to go on but their own word and the testimony of a few people who say that they have had an encounter...I'm sorry but i'm not convinced.

    Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.

  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729
    Originally posted by Draenor

    Originally posted by War_Eagle

    Originally posted by Draenor


    If I was an astronaut I would totally tell lies about alien sightings for two reasons:
     
    If it's not true, then NASA and the US Gov can't do anything to him for leaking secrets that don't exist
    It's great publicity and money
     
    There's two reasons why I don't take stuff like this seriously.

    You're calling him a liar?  I know some people are cynical, I guess I've always been what people would call naive.  I tend to lean towards believing someone until they give me reason otherwise.  Especially someone like him who has his public reputation to consider.

    The only time I am not believing of what someone tells me is when it is just obvious they are lying.  I think for the most part people are or at least try their hardest to be honest.  You probably think I'm naive though.  Oh well, just the way I am.  Kind of always been that way.



     

    Yes, I'm calling him a liar.

    The only time I believe what someone tells me is if I have reasonable evidence proving it...I'm not asking for 100% irrefutable proof, but with this alien stuff, they have nothing to go on but their own word and the testimony of a few people who say that they have had an encounter...I'm sorry but i'm not convinced.

     

    Theres more documentation for the UFO phenomena than the holocoust.

    www.ufocasebook.com  << On average 5 reports daily, most with pictures or videos.

    But thats not even the half of it....

    Look at my previous post.  A interview with buzz aldrin saying the same thing....

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  • UrdigUrdig Member Posts: 1,260

    A gama ray burst can be seen billions of light years away.

    A nuclear explosion emitts these rays.  What did we start doing in world war 2?  When did the sightings start?

    Nasa observes gama ray burst in other solar systems and over galaxies (these I think are caused by super massive black holes that are active at the center of those galaxies). 

    Over 300+ planets have been found throughout our own galaxy.  All the size of jupitor or larger.  A new space telescope is going up that will be able to locate earth sized planets.

    If I'm searching for life and have the ability to locate earth sized planets, and not just any life, but advanced life.  One of the things I would look for would be signs of advanced technology such as nuclear power.  If we found a planet that was detonating nuclear bombs we sure as hell would want to know who and what those life forms were, and if they pose any kind of a threat to us. 

    I don't think that it's far fetched to believe that somewhere out there intelligent life has been doing the same thing we have, looking for signs.  They found it when we started testing nuclear bombs.  They found it by monitoring planets for gama ray bursts.  Possible.  At least I believe that this has happened.

    Wish Darkfall would release.

  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729
    Originally posted by Urdig


    A gama ray burst can be seen billions of light years away.

    A nuclear explosion emitts these rays.  What did we start doing in world war 2?  When did the sightings start?

    Nasa observes gama ray burst in other solar systems and over galaxies (these I think are caused by super massive black holes that are active at the center of those galaxies). 

    Over 300+ planets have been found throughout our own galaxy.  All the size of jupitor or larger.  A new space telescope is going up that will be able to locate earth sized planets.
    If I'm searching for life and have the ability to locate earth sized planets, and not just any life, but advanced life.  One of the things I would look for would be signs of advanced technology such as nuclear power.  If we found a planet that was detonating nuclear bombs we sure as hell would want to know who and what those life forms were, and if they pose any kind of a threat to us. 
    I don't think that it's far fetched to believe that somewhere out there intelligent life has been doing the same thing we have, looking for signs.  They found it when we started testing nuclear bombs.  They found it by monitoring planets for gama ray bursts.  Possible.  At least I believe that this has happened.

     



    Ufo reports happened thousands of years before the atom bomb or any man made gamma rays

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  • Originally posted by gnomexxx

    Originally posted by poopypants


    Not such a great revelation...but I congratulate him for his courage.
     
    Only an american moron would believe that we're alone in the universe!

    What's up with the "American" comment?  I was rolling right along with you until you added that.

    I made the "american" comment because most americans are drooling idiots...Hello!

     

    Millions upon millions of eye-witness accounts (many of them in very large groups!) from impeccable sources - astronauts, fighter pilots, Presidents and Prime Ministers - and clearly irrefutable video evidence is still not powerful enough to penetrate the thick sculls and hazy thinking of the common american ding-a-ling! OMG...

  • UrdigUrdig Member Posts: 1,260
    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by Urdig


    A gama ray burst can be seen billions of light years away.

    A nuclear explosion emitts these rays.  What did we start doing in world war 2?  When did the sightings start?

    Nasa observes gama ray burst in other solar systems and over galaxies (these I think are caused by super massive black holes that are active at the center of those galaxies). 

    Over 300+ planets have been found throughout our own galaxy.  All the size of jupitor or larger.  A new space telescope is going up that will be able to locate earth sized planets.
    If I'm searching for life and have the ability to locate earth sized planets, and not just any life, but advanced life.  One of the things I would look for would be signs of advanced technology such as nuclear power.  If we found a planet that was detonating nuclear bombs we sure as hell would want to know who and what those life forms were, and if they pose any kind of a threat to us. 
    I don't think that it's far fetched to believe that somewhere out there intelligent life has been doing the same thing we have, looking for signs.  They found it when we started testing nuclear bombs.  They found it by monitoring planets for gama ray bursts.  Possible.  At least I believe that this has happened.

     



    Ufo reports happened thousands of years before the atom bomb or any man made gamma rays

    I don't think they did.

    Creativety, imagination, creation are instinctual behaviors in humans. 

    I've never seen a hyroglygh that  depicted aliens coming to earth that is widely excepted as genuine.

    Ufo sightings are the product of the 40's.  Mostly I hear that the cold war and the coming of the nuclear age were responsible for Ufo's and aliens in pop culture.  They became glomourised in books and movies at the time.  Just fiction.

    I can't remember his name, but the guy that discovered the canals on Mars thought they were built buy aliens, they were remnants of ancient cities or something. 

    I also think that humans are incredibly intuitive.  Some of the things we imagine aren't so much the product of creativety, but unknown understanding of what is, and possiblities.  I think that we have a limitted ability to predict. 

    Also.  Vulcanic eruptions, on massive scales I believe have the potential to cause a nuclear explosion.  Vulcanoes I believe are neccesary for life.  They release material into the atmosphere that create planets like earth.  We have four in our system, and earth is similliar to all of them If I'm not mistaken.  It's either venus or murcury ( the second planet) that would have easilly been our twin if it's atmosphere wasn't so toxic.  I think that you increase the odds of life on a planet with more vulcanic planets similliar to early earth.  They can share material, thus increasing the odds of neccesary components having suitable enviroments to grow.  Life may not have begun on earth.  It could have easily come from 2 other planets in our system.  The start of our system would have been a very volitle time, with lots of explosions and super massive vulcanoes.  We could have been sending out welcome beacons billions of years ago. 

    Imagine a world united in achieving a goal that would be the most profound event in all of intelligent life.  Imagine finding a system that contains multiple planets just like our own.  We will develope the technology to get thier; we know we can.  Imagine when we get there and find intelligent life, civilizations.  We wouldn't be leaving anytime soon.

     Space is something.  It is a fabric that can be manipulated.  It consists of some material.  I believe that it is possible to move along space by other means that do not exist within the ream of "time". (time doesn't exist) We will do this by manipulating the fabric of space, and so will other species.

    I'm rambling.

    I don't think ancient man was being visited by aliens.

    Wish Darkfall would release.

  • Zerocool032Zerocool032 Member Posts: 729
    Originally posted by Urdig

    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by Urdig


    A gama ray burst can be seen billions of light years away.

    A nuclear explosion emitts these rays.  What did we start doing in world war 2?  When did the sightings start?

    Nasa observes gama ray burst in other solar systems and over galaxies (these I think are caused by super massive black holes that are active at the center of those galaxies). 

    Over 300+ planets have been found throughout our own galaxy.  All the size of jupitor or larger.  A new space telescope is going up that will be able to locate earth sized planets.
    If I'm searching for life and have the ability to locate earth sized planets, and not just any life, but advanced life.  One of the things I would look for would be signs of advanced technology such as nuclear power.  If we found a planet that was detonating nuclear bombs we sure as hell would want to know who and what those life forms were, and if they pose any kind of a threat to us. 
    I don't think that it's far fetched to believe that somewhere out there intelligent life has been doing the same thing we have, looking for signs.  They found it when we started testing nuclear bombs.  They found it by monitoring planets for gama ray bursts.  Possible.  At least I believe that this has happened.

     



    Ufo reports happened thousands of years before the atom bomb or any man made gamma rays

    I don't think they did.

    Creativety, imagination, creation are instinctual behaviors in humans. 

    I've never seen a hyroglygh that  depicted aliens coming to earth that is widely excepted as genuine.

    Ufo sightings are the product of the 40's.  Mostly I hear that the cold war and the coming of the nuclear age were responsible for Ufo's and aliens in pop culture.  They became glomourised in books and movies at the time.  Just fiction.

    I can't remember his name, but the guy that discovered the canals on Mars thought they were built buy aliens, they were remnants of ancient cities or something. 

    I also think that humans are incredibly intuitive.  Some of the things we imagine aren't so much the product of creativety, but unknown understanding of what is, and possiblities.  I think that we have a limitted ability to predict. 

    Also.  Vulcanic eruptions, on massive scales I believe have the potential to cause a nuclear explosion.  Vulcanoes I believe are neccesary for life.  They release material into the atmosphere that create planets like earth.  We have four in our system, and earth is similliar to all of them If I'm not mistaken.  It's either venus or murcury ( the second planet) that would have easilly been our twin if it's atmosphere wasn't so toxic.  I think that you increase the odds of life on a planet with more vulcanic planets similliar to early earth.  They can share material, thus increasing the odds of neccesary components having suitable enviroments to grow.  Life may not have begun on earth.  It could have easily come from 2 other planets in our system.  The start of our system would have been a very volitle time, with lots of explosions and super massive vulcanoes.  We could have been sending out welcome beacons billions of years ago. 

    Imagine a world united in achieving a goal that would be the most profound event in all of intelligent life.  Imagine finding a system that contains multiple planets just like our own.  We will develope the technology to get thier; we know we can.  Imagine when we get there and find intelligent life, civilizations.  We wouldn't be leaving anytime soon.

     Space is something.  It is a fabric that can be manipulated.  It consists of some material.  I believe that it is possible to move along space by other means that do not exist within the ream of "time". (time doesn't exist) We will do this by manipulating the fabric of space, and so will other species.

    I'm rambling.

    I don't think ancient man was being visited by aliens.

     

    I agree with many of your points that deal with time and physics.   Although volcanic eruptions have nowhere near the power to produce radiation.  Pressurized gas and lava doesnt have enough energy to split an atom, much less contain radioactive material.

    The reason we have more UFO reports now is because

    A.) There are more people in the world.

    B.) Cameras, media, instant communication since the early 1900's

    Although there have been MANY reports before this.  But not shared to due technological reasons.

     

     

     

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  • NetzokoNetzoko Member Posts: 1,271
    Originally posted by poopypants


    I made the "american" comment because most americans are drooling idiots...Hello!

     

     

    The fact that you posted such a stupid generalization makes you the drooling idiot.

    Regardless, anyone with the name poopypants calling others idiots is clearly a bit confused.

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  • UrdigUrdig Member Posts: 1,260
    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by Urdig

    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by Urdig


    A gama ray burst can be seen billions of light years away.

    A nuclear explosion emitts these rays.  What did we start doing in world war 2?  When did the sightings start?

    Nasa observes gama ray burst in other solar systems and over galaxies (these I think are caused by super massive black holes that are active at the center of those galaxies). 

    Over 300+ planets have been found throughout our own galaxy.  All the size of jupitor or larger.  A new space telescope is going up that will be able to locate earth sized planets.
    If I'm searching for life and have the ability to locate earth sized planets, and not just any life, but advanced life.  One of the things I would look for would be signs of advanced technology such as nuclear power.  If we found a planet that was detonating nuclear bombs we sure as hell would want to know who and what those life forms were, and if they pose any kind of a threat to us. 
    I don't think that it's far fetched to believe that somewhere out there intelligent life has been doing the same thing we have, looking for signs.  They found it when we started testing nuclear bombs.  They found it by monitoring planets for gama ray bursts.  Possible.  At least I believe that this has happened.

     



    Ufo reports happened thousands of years before the atom bomb or any man made gamma rays

    I don't think they did.

    Creativety, imagination, creation are instinctual behaviors in humans. 

    I've never seen a hyroglygh that  depicted aliens coming to earth that is widely excepted as genuine.

    Ufo sightings are the product of the 40's.  Mostly I hear that the cold war and the coming of the nuclear age were responsible for Ufo's and aliens in pop culture.  They became glomourised in books and movies at the time.  Just fiction.

    I can't remember his name, but the guy that discovered the canals on Mars thought they were built buy aliens, they were remnants of ancient cities or something. 

    I also think that humans are incredibly intuitive.  Some of the things we imagine aren't so much the product of creativety, but unknown understanding of what is, and possiblities.  I think that we have a limitted ability to predict. 

    Also.  Vulcanic eruptions, on massive scales I believe have the potential to cause a nuclear explosion.  Vulcanoes I believe are neccesary for life.  They release material into the atmosphere that create planets like earth.  We have four in our system, and earth is similliar to all of them If I'm not mistaken.  It's either venus or murcury ( the second planet) that would have easilly been our twin if it's atmosphere wasn't so toxic.  I think that you increase the odds of life on a planet with more vulcanic planets similliar to early earth.  They can share material, thus increasing the odds of neccesary components having suitable enviroments to grow.  Life may not have begun on earth.  It could have easily come from 2 other planets in our system.  The start of our system would have been a very volitle time, with lots of explosions and super massive vulcanoes.  We could have been sending out welcome beacons billions of years ago. 

    Imagine a world united in achieving a goal that would be the most profound event in all of intelligent life.  Imagine finding a system that contains multiple planets just like our own.  We will develope the technology to get thier; we know we can.  Imagine when we get there and find intelligent life, civilizations.  We wouldn't be leaving anytime soon.

     Space is something.  It is a fabric that can be manipulated.  It consists of some material.  I believe that it is possible to move along space by other means that do not exist within the ream of "time". (time doesn't exist) We will do this by manipulating the fabric of space, and so will other species.

    I'm rambling.

    I don't think ancient man was being visited by aliens.

     

    I agree with many of your points that deal with time and physics.   Although volcanic eruptions have nowhere near the power to produce radiation.  Pressurized gas and lava doesnt have enough energy to split an atom, much less contain radioactive material.

    The reason we have more UFO reports now is because

    A.) There are more people in the world.

    B.) Cameras, media, instant communication since the early 1900's

    Although there have been MANY reports before this.  But not shared to due technological reasons.

     

     

     



     

    There is radioactive material in the earth and there would have been even more in abundance in a proto earth.  I believe some of our elements are radioactive in nature. 

    Molecules give off gama ray bursts.  There are a lot of molecules moving really, really fast when a super vulcanoe erupts.  What if the vulcano was fuelled by multen nuclear material?

    First pic.  Spirit.  Early representation of a ghost.  Unless the artist told someone what it was then it's only speculating.  It's like seeing shapes in things.  A dog in a cloud.  Imagination is an instinct.

    Most civilizations develope a belief system built on the sun.  Holly figures tend to have a connection to it.  Someone depicts this by placing a man in what could be a sun and giving him power over it.  The sun rises and falls, it's streaking across the sky represents it's movement.  And again, unless the artist tells you what they were conveying you can only guess. 

    No varifiable date means I'll assume it's not genuine.

    I thought Aborigine's had thier own spiritual beliefs.  Looks like ghosts, or spirits.

    I would have to examine that painting myself.  Looks to me like a leaf, or an olive.

    What's the writing on the last one say?

    Wish Darkfall would release.

  • abbabaabbaba Member Posts: 1,143

    I bet they have implanted parasites in some of us, they're in stasis right now waiting for the moment to strike. I suggest everyone learn how to sleep with their eyes open, and don't drive down lonely country roads on moonless nights.

  • ArndurArndur Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,202
    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by Draenor

    Originally posted by War_Eagle

    Originally posted by Draenor


    If I was an astronaut I would totally tell lies about alien sightings for two reasons:
     
    If it's not true, then NASA and the US Gov can't do anything to him for leaking secrets that don't exist
    It's great publicity and money
     
    There's two reasons why I don't take stuff like this seriously.

    You're calling him a liar?  I know some people are cynical, I guess I've always been what people would call naive.  I tend to lean towards believing someone until they give me reason otherwise.  Especially someone like him who has his public reputation to consider.

    The only time I am not believing of what someone tells me is when it is just obvious they are lying.  I think for the most part people are or at least try their hardest to be honest.  You probably think I'm naive though.  Oh well, just the way I am.  Kind of always been that way.



     

    Yes, I'm calling him a liar.

    The only time I believe what someone tells me is if I have reasonable evidence proving it...I'm not asking for 100% irrefutable proof, but with this alien stuff, they have nothing to go on but their own word and the testimony of a few people who say that they have had an encounter...I'm sorry but i'm not convinced.

     

    Theres more documentation for the UFO phenomena than the holocoust.

    www.ufocasebook.com  << On average 5 reports daily, most with pictures or videos.

    But thats not even the half of it....

    Look at my previous post.  A interview with buzz aldrin saying the same thing....



     

    hmmm 6million dead jews and the death camps to prove it orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a bunch of stories that cloud be photoshoped or just something manmade that looks like a UFO.  Also of course theres more reports for UFO holocaust was during WW2 idiots have bene seeing UFOs for awhile. Also if aliens can tranverse space WHY THE HELL DONT THEY GO TO A  MAJOR CITY. imo the aliens from independence day make the most since. They blow up our major cities not Billy Bobs trailer in the middle of arkansas.

    Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.

    If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
    And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms

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  • ArndurArndur Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,202
    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by Urdig

    Originally posted by Zerocool032

    Originally posted by Urdig


    A gama ray burst can be seen billions of light years away.

    A nuclear explosion emitts these rays.  What did we start doing in world war 2?  When did the sightings start?

    Nasa observes gama ray burst in other solar systems and over galaxies (these I think are caused by super massive black holes that are active at the center of those galaxies). 

    Over 300+ planets have been found throughout our own galaxy.  All the size of jupitor or larger.  A new space telescope is going up that will be able to locate earth sized planets.
    If I'm searching for life and have the ability to locate earth sized planets, and not just any life, but advanced life.  One of the things I would look for would be signs of advanced technology such as nuclear power.  If we found a planet that was detonating nuclear bombs we sure as hell would want to know who and what those life forms were, and if they pose any kind of a threat to us. 
    I don't think that it's far fetched to believe that somewhere out there intelligent life has been doing the same thing we have, looking for signs.  They found it when we started testing nuclear bombs.  They found it by monitoring planets for gama ray bursts.  Possible.  At least I believe that this has happened.

     



    Ufo reports happened thousands of years before the atom bomb or any man made gamma rays

    I don't think they did.

    Creativety, imagination, creation are instinctual behaviors in humans. 

    I've never seen a hyroglygh that  depicted aliens coming to earth that is widely excepted as genuine.

    Ufo sightings are the product of the 40's.  Mostly I hear that the cold war and the coming of the nuclear age were responsible for Ufo's and aliens in pop culture.  They became glomourised in books and movies at the time.  Just fiction.

    I can't remember his name, but the guy that discovered the canals on Mars thought they were built buy aliens, they were remnants of ancient cities or something. 

    I also think that humans are incredibly intuitive.  Some of the things we imagine aren't so much the product of creativety, but unknown understanding of what is, and possiblities.  I think that we have a limitted ability to predict. 

    Also.  Vulcanic eruptions, on massive scales I believe have the potential to cause a nuclear explosion.  Vulcanoes I believe are neccesary for life.  They release material into the atmosphere that create planets like earth.  We have four in our system, and earth is similliar to all of them If I'm not mistaken.  It's either venus or murcury ( the second planet) that would have easilly been our twin if it's atmosphere wasn't so toxic.  I think that you increase the odds of life on a planet with more vulcanic planets similliar to early earth.  They can share material, thus increasing the odds of neccesary components having suitable enviroments to grow.  Life may not have begun on earth.  It could have easily come from 2 other planets in our system.  The start of our system would have been a very volitle time, with lots of explosions and super massive vulcanoes.  We could have been sending out welcome beacons billions of years ago. 

    Imagine a world united in achieving a goal that would be the most profound event in all of intelligent life.  Imagine finding a system that contains multiple planets just like our own.  We will develope the technology to get thier; we know we can.  Imagine when we get there and find intelligent life, civilizations.  We wouldn't be leaving anytime soon.

     Space is something.  It is a fabric that can be manipulated.  It consists of some material.  I believe that it is possible to move along space by other means that do not exist within the ream of "time". (time doesn't exist) We will do this by manipulating the fabric of space, and so will other species.

    I'm rambling.

    I don't think ancient man was being visited by aliens.

     

    I agree with many of your points that deal with time and physics.   Although volcanic eruptions have nowhere near the power to produce radiation.  Pressurized gas and lava doesnt have enough energy to split an atom, much less contain radioactive material.

    The reason we have more UFO reports now is because

    A.) There are more people in the world.

    B.) Cameras, media, instant communication since the early 1900's

    Although there have been MANY reports before this.  But not shared to due technological reasons.

     

     

     





     

    Dragons appreaed in many cultures at the same time around the planet with many of these cultures having never met. That logic would point towards Dragons exist since they do the same for aliens.

    Hold on Snow Leopard, imma let you finish, but Windows had one of the best operating systems of all time.

    If the Powerball lottery was like Lotro, nobody would win for 2 years, and then everyone in Nebraska would win on the same day.
    And then Nebraska would get nerfed.-pinkwood lotro fourms

    AMD 4800 2.4ghz-3GB RAM 533mhz-EVGA 9500GT 512mb-320gb HD

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