Nothing went wrong.............. People who bought this game when they had no business doing so went wrong.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
I was greatly disappointed with this game, I played the beta, bought the CE version and what a waist of money it was. Yes there are some good things about the game, but its too much of the same thing over and over. Sorry to say I canceled my account and will not be going back. All the classes are almost the same, a magic user and a tank shouldn't be so alike. Blood and titties don't make up for a crappy game.
Nothing went wrong.............. People who bought this game when they had no business doing so went wrong.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
Well looking back on tenton hammer with direct info from funcom i can see a couple of things which we should not have belived was not included.
" In some situations, however, players will choose to band together and unite their skills to face other bands of players or AI controlled armies or uber-mobs; in essence, "formations." Player bands using formations can temporarily choose to surrender some control over their character's movement to a commander who will direct their unit in battle. In return, the members of the formation will gain special attack and defensive bonuses as well as tactics that they can use against other formations."
" Players will also take part in massive siege operations. Adventurers can cooperate with one another to build massive cities with walls, towers and catapults that can protect player-owned taverns and merchant facilities. The world will respond appropriately to the rise of player cities, though, as enemy players and even AI controlled enemies will build their own cities, ensuring a constant stream of brutal city-vs.-city combat as players try to knock down enemy walls or defend their homes."
One of the first games to use Direct3D 10 framework of Windows Vista.
Mounted combat such as horse archery, dual wielding and jousting.
Various siege engines such as trebuchets, battering rams, etc.
Day and night cycles. NPCs and quests may change accordingly.
Meteorological effects such as blizzards, dust storms and rain.
Nothing went wrong.............. People who bought this game when they had no business doing so went wrong.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
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What happened to this game has happened to quite a few MMOs in the past; the producer tried to treat paying subscribers like Beta Testers and, inevitably, it cost Funcom dearly.
Despite what Vultureskull believes, MMO's are supposed to release with an expected level of functionality. AOC did not ship with the feature set that the fans were led to believe would be in at launch, including DX10 support, fully functional PVP and sieging. Oh yeah, and it could have shipped with a few less broken quests and bugs too.
Despite his chidings about people being Noobs for expecting more, truth is Lineage 2, LotRO, COH, as well as WOW) and a few other games actually released with a level of content and polish that was acceptable to the greater fanbase.
AOC did not deliver what the customers expected, and that fault clearly lies on Funcom, and not the disappointed customers who bought it.
Sure, all MMO's evolve, but they need to start with a solid foundation or they crumble.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Nothing went wrong.............. People who bought this game when they had no business doing so went wrong.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Ya, i was one of those people that sat back and didn't buy into the hype.
Only reason i won't try it now is because of the bugs and exploits i read about.
Not just on this site, but everywhere.
Its hard for me to leave WoW because they can afford to be tough on cheaters. And they have one heck of a log system for monitoring this kind of activity in WoW.
Mythic has always been really tough on cheaters also. But people used a few programs in DAoC that ruined the fun of the game. I blame the cheaters for DAoC's demise more then ToA.
Bottom line to me is stability in the game. If i think an online game is flimsy and easily exploited i won't play it. No matter the content it does or does not have.
"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything except genius." -Oscar Wilde
Despite what Vultureskull believes, MMO's are supposed to release with an expected level of functionality. AOC did not ship with the feature set that the fans were led to believe would be in at launch, including DX10 support, fully functional PVP and sieging. Oh yeah, and it could have shipped with a few less broken quests and bugs too. Despite his chidings about people being Noobs for expecting more, truth is Lineage 2, LotRO, COH, as well as WOW) and a few other games actually released with a level of content and polish that was acceptable to the greater fanbase. AOC did not deliver what the customers expected, and that fault clearly lies on Funcom, and not the disappointed customers who bought it. Sure, all MMO's evolve, but they need to start with a solid foundation or they crumble.
Dont get me wrong, i am not saying that it is an acceptable state of affairs, and AoC did release sub par to other MMOs, but the way some go on it as if they were surprised.
The question here is, where is the cut off point, with Vanguard it was clear, with AoC majority of the people are unhappy, so AoC may have crossed the line.
Its not as if i play the game activiely at the moment, although i do have an active account and jump on every now and again, but i recongise AoC for what it is, an incomplete but very good game, as is Vangaurd.
Look at Vanguard now, besides the lack of pop(until the trial comes out) it is a very good game now.
And i am not shocked or bitter towards FUNCOM as i dont know why they have released in this way and what the constraints were, and if i dont know that i cant hate them.
Nothing went wrong.............. People who bought this game when they had no business doing so went wrong.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Sarcastic? lol i am stating fact.
Come on saying that if a developer says their game has DX10 (which BTW means IT HAS DX10) dosn't mean it will have it on release. (Which mean IT dose not have DX10) Is kinda an contradiction.
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Wanna know whats wrong with AOC....Here is the simple answer. Whining, Crying, FUNCOM promised me a RED Mustang and all I got was a photo of a RED Mustang... Actually on top of that here is what the #1 reason whats wrong with AOC.... The problem is between the "keyboard" and the "computer chair". get rid of that and everything will work itself out.
Fan Boi in riot gear... LMAO
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release. If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that. I hope you have all learnt your lessons now. The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
My god. Please tell me this apathetic view is not shared by the majority. I've said it before on these boards, advertising is showing a working feature of your product. If that feature is broken or missing, and you don't inform me before I buy it, then you have mislead me. Plain and simple. I don't care if you're selling me a steak or an MMO, any business should be held to a certail level of ethical and moral standards.
Basically AoC borrows alot from other games but not what they should have.
Itemization- Total garbage. every 10 levels there is 1 weapon and 1 set of armor you should wear.
Content- quests are an utter bore and the world lacks any sense of the brutality of conans world. Lack of anything even remotely epic that would cause a sense of accomplishment. Lack of a truly interesting environment. Yes it looks great, but considering all the crazy locations that conan visits in the books, you think they would have something better for us. Not to mention the higher level you get to, the less zones and content there is( which is very stupid considering they made the game incredibly easy to level in, probably the easiest to level to date).
Promises- they have all these grand plans, but they just keep promising while not meeting deadlines, and then after they pass they say nothing. PvP system. Itemization(1500 armor sets, a working itemization system) Powerpoints, More content (ymir's pass a host of new dungeons). Dark templar was promised a review of thier broken feat trees, and got 2 fixes for crap feats that still remain crap. I could keep going.
Most of all the game is so terribly simple. Run up and beat up a mob works for everything. They designed a mature content game, but forgot that mature also means that you should actually be able to think. No character development. Look at anarchy online if you want to see deep character development( also made by funcom).
Combo system was fun at first, then i realized what it was- a simplier combat system. You simply spam your highest damage dealing combos and throw out a stun, or knockback. Attacks that drain stamina or mana dont even bother enemies. You actually have less attacks in this game than pretty much any other mmorgp out.
No pvp system, another broken promise. And the pvp in game is a joke.
Sieges are so god damn buggy and fairly boring the majority of the battle.
Nothing went wrong.............. People who bought this game when they had no business doing so went wrong.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Sarcastic? lol i am stating fact.
Come on saying that if a developer says their game has DX10 (which BTW means IT HAS DX10) dosn't mean it will have it on release. (Which mean IT dose not have DX10) Is kinda an contradiction.
"their game has DX10"
This is marketing speak for "our game has DX10" capablitiy lol!
I am not defending it, i am only suggesting the way they think.
They list all the features they have "planned" for their game, come release they release what's there, and don't change the feature list.
Basically AoC borrows alot from other games but not what they should have. Itemization- Total garbage. every 10 levels there is 1 weapon and 1 set of armor you should wear. Content- quests are an utter bore and the world lacks any sense of the brutality of conans world. Lack of anything even remotely epic that would cause a sense of accomplishment. Lack of a truly interesting environment. Yes it looks great, but considering all the crazy locations that conan visits in the books, you think they would have something better for us. Not to mention the higher level you get to, the less zones and content there is( which is very stupid considering they made the game incredibly easy to level in, probably the easiest to level to date). Promises- they have all these grand plans, but they just keep promising while not meeting deadlines, and then after they pass they say nothing. PvP system. Itemization(1500 armor sets, a working itemization system) Powerpoints, More content (ymir's pass a host of new dungeons). Dark templar was promised a review of thier broken feat trees, and got 2 fixes for crap feats that still remain crap. I could keep going. Most of all the game is so terribly simple. Run up and beat up a mob works for everything. They designed a mature content game, but forgot that mature also means that you should actually be able to think. No character development. Look at anarchy online if you want to see deep character development( also made by funcom). Combo system was fun at first, then i realized what it was- a simplier combat system. You simply spam your highest damage dealing combos and throw out a stun, or knockback. Attacks that drain stamina or mana dont even bother enemies. You actually have less attacks in this game than pretty much any other mmorgp out. No pvp system, another broken promise. And the pvp in game is a joke. Sieges are so god damn buggy and fairly boring the majority of the battle.
Nothing went wrong.............. People who bought this game when they had no business doing so went wrong.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Sarcastic? lol i am stating fact.
Come on saying that if a developer says their game has DX10 (which BTW means IT HAS DX10) dosn't mean it will have it on release. (Which mean IT dose not have DX10) Is kinda an contradiction.
"their game has DX10"
This is marketing speak for "our game has DX10" capablitiy lol!
I am not defending it, i am only suggesting the way they think.
They list all the features they have "planned" for their game, come release they release what's there, and don't change the feature list.
ah ok I missunderstood because when they released their game didn't have DX10 capability
If your not defending it then stop trying to defend it.
they said things would be there, and they were not that is the only fact.
also it was buggy and crashed a lot.
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Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release. If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that. I hope you have all learnt your lessons now. The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
My god. Please tell me this apathetic view is not shared by the majority. I've said it before on these boards, advertising is showing a working feature of your product. If that feature is broken or missing, and you don't inform me before I buy it, then you have mislead me. Plain and simple. I don't care if you're selling me a steak or an MMO, any business should be held to a certail level of ethical and moral standards.
Sorry this is not my view, it is my interpretation of what is happening in the MMO market,
where games have long and expensive dev times.
Bigger companies can afford to release content full and polished games, like Bilizzard and Turbine, but
the smaller companies tend to struggle, take CCP for example, a small company, released EVE 5 years ago.
The game was in the same state as AoC, if not worse, look at it today, its a classic well polished game.
Eve has a ship called a Titan, that was not in the game from release, it took nearly two years for it to make it into the game, I dont know when CCP said that they will be in the game(release or later on) but i do recall people being impatient about flying them.
"Nothing, Age of Conan is a good game and will only get better."
Ye, maybe it will better, it is hard make it worst. But you know, me and other consumers will far away. I feel cheated and not going back. Funcom wasted my time ( ye i know, my fault ). They can try fix it or rerelease but who really wants back to AoC ? Wanna again feed these incompetentive cheaters ? I do not.
"Nothing, Age of Conan is a good game and will only get better." Ye, maybe it will better, it is hard make it worst. But you know, me and other consumers will far away. I feel cheated and not going back. Funcom wasted my time ( ye i know, my fault ). They can try fix it or rerelease but who really wants back to AoC ? Wanna again feed these incompetentive cheaters ? I do not. Kkthxbye, cya,,,,,,, never.
Fix this and ill be back.
Basically AoC borrows alot from other games but not what they should have.
Itemization- Total garbage. every 10 levels there is 1 weapon and 1 set of armor you should wear.
Content- quests are an utter bore and the world lacks any sense of the brutality of conans world. Lack of anything even remotely epic that would cause a sense of accomplishment. Lack of a truly interesting environment. Yes it looks great, but considering all the crazy locations that conan visits in the books, you think they would have something better for us. Not to mention the higher level you get to, the less zones and content there is( which is very stupid considering they made the game incredibly easy to level in, probably the easiest to level to date).
Promises- they have all these grand plans, but they just keep promising while not meeting deadlines, and then after they pass they say nothing. PvP system. Itemization(1500 armor sets, a working itemization system) Powerpoints, More content (ymir's pass a host of new dungeons). Dark templar was promised a review of thier broken feat trees, and got 2 fixes for crap feats that still remain crap. I could keep going.
Most of all the game is so terribly simple. Run up and beat up a mob works for everything. They designed a mature content game, but forgot that mature also means that you should actually be able to think. No character development. Look at anarchy online if you want to see deep character development( also made by funcom).
Combo system was fun at first, then i realized what it was- a simplier combat system. You simply spam your highest damage dealing combos and throw out a stun, or knockback. Attacks that drain stamina or mana dont even bother enemies. You actually have less attacks in this game than pretty much any other mmorgp out.
No pvp system, another broken promise. And the pvp in game is a joke.
Sieges are so god damn buggy and fairly boring the majority of the battle.
I think if Funcom would have just made it a single player game, it may have turned out ok. It seems they changed up in mid stream and it turned into a mess.
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Nothing, Age of Conan is a good game and will only get better.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
I was greatly disappointed with this game, I played the beta, bought the CE version and what a waist of money it was. Yes there are some good things about the game, but its too much of the same thing over and over. Sorry to say I canceled my account and will not be going back. All the classes are almost the same, a magic user and a tank shouldn't be so alike. Blood and titties don't make up for a crappy game.
Wanna know whats wrong with AOC....Here is the simple answer.
Whining, Crying, FUNCOM promised me a RED Mustang and all I got was a photo of a RED Mustang...
Actually on top of that here is what the #1 reason whats wrong with AOC....
The problem is between the "keyboard" and the "computer chair". get rid of that and everything will work itself out.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
Well looking back on tenton hammer with direct info from funcom i can see a couple of things which we should not have belived was not included.
" In some situations, however, players will choose to band together and unite their skills to face other bands of players or AI controlled armies or uber-mobs; in essence, "formations." Player bands using formations can temporarily choose to surrender some control over their character's movement to a commander who will direct their unit in battle. In return, the members of the formation will gain special attack and defensive bonuses as well as tactics that they can use against other formations."
" Players will also take part in massive siege operations. Adventurers can cooperate with one another to build massive cities with walls, towers and catapults that can protect player-owned taverns and merchant facilities. The world will respond appropriately to the rise of player cities, though, as enemy players and even AI controlled enemies will build their own cities, ensuring a constant stream of brutal city-vs.-city combat as players try to knock down enemy walls or defend their homes."
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
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What happened to this game has happened to quite a few MMOs in the past; the producer tried to treat paying subscribers like Beta Testers and, inevitably, it cost Funcom dearly.
Despite what Vultureskull believes, MMO's are supposed to release with an expected level of functionality. AOC did not ship with the feature set that the fans were led to believe would be in at launch, including DX10 support, fully functional PVP and sieging. Oh yeah, and it could have shipped with a few less broken quests and bugs too.
Despite his chidings about people being Noobs for expecting more, truth is Lineage 2, LotRO, COH, as well as WOW) and a few other games actually released with a level of content and polish that was acceptable to the greater fanbase.
AOC did not deliver what the customers expected, and that fault clearly lies on Funcom, and not the disappointed customers who bought it.
Sure, all MMO's evolve, but they need to start with a solid foundation or they crumble.
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so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Sarcastic? lol i am stating fact.
Ya, i was one of those people that sat back and didn't buy into the hype.
Only reason i won't try it now is because of the bugs and exploits i read about.
Not just on this site, but everywhere.
Its hard for me to leave WoW because they can afford to be tough on cheaters. And they have one heck of a log system for monitoring this kind of activity in WoW.
Mythic has always been really tough on cheaters also. But people used a few programs in DAoC that ruined the fun of the game. I blame the cheaters for DAoC's demise more then ToA.
Bottom line to me is stability in the game. If i think an online game is flimsy and easily exploited i won't play it. No matter the content it does or does not have.
"The public is wonderfully tolerant. It forgives everything except genius."
-Oscar Wilde
Dont get me wrong, i am not saying that it is an acceptable state of affairs, and AoC did release sub par to other MMOs, but the way some go on it as if they were surprised.
The question here is, where is the cut off point, with Vanguard it was clear, with AoC majority of the people are unhappy, so AoC may have crossed the line.
Its not as if i play the game activiely at the moment, although i do have an active account and jump on every now and again, but i recongise AoC for what it is, an incomplete but very good game, as is Vangaurd.
Look at Vanguard now, besides the lack of pop(until the trial comes out) it is a very good game now.
And i am not shocked or bitter towards FUNCOM as i dont know why they have released in this way and what the constraints were, and if i dont know that i cant hate them.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Sarcastic? lol i am stating fact.
Come on saying that if a developer says their game has DX10 (which BTW means IT HAS DX10) dosn't mean it will have it on release. (Which mean IT dose not have DX10) Is kinda an contradiction.
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Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
My god. Please tell me this apathetic view is not shared by the majority. I've said it before on these boards, advertising is showing a working feature of your product. If that feature is broken or missing, and you don't inform me before I buy it, then you have mislead me. Plain and simple. I don't care if you're selling me a steak or an MMO, any business should be held to a certail level of ethical and moral standards.
Basically AoC borrows alot from other games but not what they should have.
Itemization- Total garbage. every 10 levels there is 1 weapon and 1 set of armor you should wear.
Content- quests are an utter bore and the world lacks any sense of the brutality of conans world. Lack of anything even remotely epic that would cause a sense of accomplishment. Lack of a truly interesting environment. Yes it looks great, but considering all the crazy locations that conan visits in the books, you think they would have something better for us. Not to mention the higher level you get to, the less zones and content there is( which is very stupid considering they made the game incredibly easy to level in, probably the easiest to level to date).
Promises- they have all these grand plans, but they just keep promising while not meeting deadlines, and then after they pass they say nothing. PvP system. Itemization(1500 armor sets, a working itemization system) Powerpoints, More content (ymir's pass a host of new dungeons). Dark templar was promised a review of thier broken feat trees, and got 2 fixes for crap feats that still remain crap. I could keep going.
Most of all the game is so terribly simple. Run up and beat up a mob works for everything. They designed a mature content game, but forgot that mature also means that you should actually be able to think. No character development. Look at anarchy online if you want to see deep character development( also made by funcom).
Combo system was fun at first, then i realized what it was- a simplier combat system. You simply spam your highest damage dealing combos and throw out a stun, or knockback. Attacks that drain stamina or mana dont even bother enemies. You actually have less attacks in this game than pretty much any other mmorgp out.
No pvp system, another broken promise. And the pvp in game is a joke.
Sieges are so god damn buggy and fairly boring the majority of the battle.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Sarcastic? lol i am stating fact.
Come on saying that if a developer says their game has DX10 (which BTW means IT HAS DX10) dosn't mean it will have it on release. (Which mean IT dose not have DX10) Is kinda an contradiction.
"their game has DX10"
This is marketing speak for "our game has DX10" capablitiy lol!
I am not defending it, i am only suggesting the way they think.
They list all the features they have "planned" for their game, come release they release what's there, and don't change the feature list.
Ditto.
so your saying it's the fan's and people that bought the game , it's their fault AOC sucks ? lol
i hope i miss understood your post .
Yeah you misunderstood my post, AoC does not suck, so its not the fans or people that bought the game that made it suck, its people who bought the game believing it something that is not, they went wrong.
Hmm, you think maybe people bought the game believing it was something else because of the pr and hype that the devs threw out there? I would say anyone that bought this game that thought it was something else was not them sitting at home thinking up what the game should be, rather led to believe it was how it isn t.
Yup, this game is not a single player console game, where when you are told what is in it, it will be in it on the day of release as there is no opportunity for patching.
This is an MMO and nearly all MMOs are a work in progress, if a game producer says that their game has DX10 that doesnt actually mean that it will be there on the day of release.
If this is your second MMO you have bought (1st being WoW) then there is no way you will no that.
I hope you have all learnt your lessons now.
The trend may be changing now however, as WAR has now said that their game that has 8 cities will only have 2 on release, this maybe due to all the negative feed back about AoC, but at least every newbie will now know with regards to WAR........
lol your being sarcastic right? becuase this gave me a good laugh.
Sarcastic? lol i am stating fact.
Come on saying that if a developer says their game has DX10 (which BTW means IT HAS DX10) dosn't mean it will have it on release. (Which mean IT dose not have DX10) Is kinda an contradiction.
"their game has DX10"
This is marketing speak for "our game has DX10" capablitiy lol!
I am not defending it, i am only suggesting the way they think.
They list all the features they have "planned" for their game, come release they release what's there, and don't change the feature list.
ah ok I missunderstood because when they released their game didn't have DX10 capability
If your not defending it then stop trying to defend it.
they said things would be there, and they were not that is the only fact.
also it was buggy and crashed a lot.
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My god. Please tell me this apathetic view is not shared by the majority. I've said it before on these boards, advertising is showing a working feature of your product. If that feature is broken or missing, and you don't inform me before I buy it, then you have mislead me. Plain and simple. I don't care if you're selling me a steak or an MMO, any business should be held to a certail level of ethical and moral standards.
Sorry this is not my view, it is my interpretation of what is happening in the MMO market,
where games have long and expensive dev times.
Bigger companies can afford to release content full and polished games, like Bilizzard and Turbine, but
the smaller companies tend to struggle, take CCP for example, a small company, released EVE 5 years ago.
The game was in the same state as AoC, if not worse, look at it today, its a classic well polished game.
Eve has a ship called a Titan, that was not in the game from release, it took nearly two years for it to make it into the game, I dont know when CCP said that they will be in the game(release or later on) but i do recall people being impatient about flying them.
"Nothing, Age of Conan is a good game and will only get better."
Ye, maybe it will better, it is hard make it worst. But you know, me and other consumers will far away. I feel cheated and not going back. Funcom wasted my time ( ye i know, my fault ). They can try fix it or rerelease but who really wants back to AoC ? Wanna again feed these incompetentive cheaters ? I do not.
Kkthxbye, cya,,,,,,, never.
Fix this and ill be back.
Basically AoC borrows alot from other games but not what they should have.
Itemization- Total garbage. every 10 levels there is 1 weapon and 1 set of armor you should wear.
Content- quests are an utter bore and the world lacks any sense of the brutality of conans world. Lack of anything even remotely epic that would cause a sense of accomplishment. Lack of a truly interesting environment. Yes it looks great, but considering all the crazy locations that conan visits in the books, you think they would have something better for us. Not to mention the higher level you get to, the less zones and content there is( which is very stupid considering they made the game incredibly easy to level in, probably the easiest to level to date).
Promises- they have all these grand plans, but they just keep promising while not meeting deadlines, and then after they pass they say nothing. PvP system. Itemization(1500 armor sets, a working itemization system) Powerpoints, More content (ymir's pass a host of new dungeons). Dark templar was promised a review of thier broken feat trees, and got 2 fixes for crap feats that still remain crap. I could keep going.
Most of all the game is so terribly simple. Run up and beat up a mob works for everything. They designed a mature content game, but forgot that mature also means that you should actually be able to think. No character development. Look at anarchy online if you want to see deep character development( also made by funcom).
Combo system was fun at first, then i realized what it was- a simplier combat system. You simply spam your highest damage dealing combos and throw out a stun, or knockback. Attacks that drain stamina or mana dont even bother enemies. You actually have less attacks in this game than pretty much any other mmorgp out.
No pvp system, another broken promise. And the pvp in game is a joke.
Sieges are so god damn buggy and fairly boring the majority of the battle.
I think if Funcom would have just made it a single player game, it may have turned out ok. It seems they changed up in mid stream and it turned into a mess.