Basically, I have seen absolutely no proof/evidence that GM's in this particular MMO cheat or help hackers or do anything questionable. If you are going to accuse and make accusations of this nature be sure to back it up with evidence folks!
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I think the point of the matter is that the GM does not know he is being used in this way
follow this
GM recieves a complaint about "UserXYZ"
GM knows this user and has them on MSN and decides to confront the user directly
although the GM knows this user, he doesnt know him on a personal level and doesnt know that the user has been account hacking etc etc but because the GM regards the user as a kind of friend, he is more likey to believe his friends lies than the truth of an unknown.
The other scenario of course is: After our cheating "UserXYZ" is caught and has his ill gotten gains removed by GM1, he talks to GM2 (his friend) and tells GM2 of how he has been wronged by a GM, that the stuff was his etc etc etc and once again plays on his friendship with a person in power,,,, and after enough complaining and lying GM2 believes his friend and re-returns the stolen goods to the thief.
It is not story of dodgy GM's, it is a story of liars abusing the trust and friendship with GM's
I no longer play this game, but i did, for nearly 2 years, i was in a good guild, with good friends on an ok server. i got an archer to lvl 92 and lots of other characters up to similar levels... and i basically got really really really bored with each one. The game has nothing new once you get your levels a bit higher, its just a boring grind, i guess i will go back to it someday,,, maybe when i run out of RW money and need a good free mmorpg
as for account hackers / stealers, they dont exist, in the real world a thief did not "break and enter" if you leave your front door open
if your char name is the same as your username for the account all he has to do is guess your password, or use a commonly available brute force guessing tool. In any MMORGP there are only 2 kinds of people, 1. the sensible and secure who keep an account ,,,, 2. the people who give login's to other people for whatever reason and have the account stolen.
if you give your keys to your car to a thief and tell him to take it for a spin, the police would do nothing and your insurance would not pay out,,,, so why on earth should any game developer waste time and money chasing the accounts of the stupid
anyway thats my 2c worth, im not saying the game is "the best" or anything, but its certainly not a total waste of time, and not nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be, its free,,, what has any new player got to loose by trying it ????
I think the point of the matter is that the GM does not know he is being used in this way follow this GM recieves a complaint about "UserXYZ" GM knows this user and has them on MSN and decides to confront the user directly although the GM knows this user, he doesnt know him on a personal level and doesnt know that the user has been account hacking etc etc but because the GM regards the user as a kind of friend, he is more likey to believe his friends lies than the truth of an unknown. The other scenario of course is: After our cheating "UserXYZ" is caught and has his ill gotten gains removed by GM1, he talks to GM2 (his friend) and tells GM2 of how he has been wronged by a GM, that the stuff was his etc etc etc and once again plays on his friendship with a person in power,,,, and after enough complaining and lying GM2 believes his friend and re-returns the stolen goods to the thief. It is not story of dodgy GM's, it is a story of liars abusing the trust and friendship with GM's I no longer play this game, but i did, for nearly 2 years, i was in a good guild, with good friends on an ok server. i got an archer to lvl 92 and lots of other characters up to similar levels... and i basically got really really really bored with each one. The game has nothing new once you get your levels a bit higher, its just a boring grind, i guess i will go back to it someday,,, maybe when i run out of RW money and need a good free mmorpg as for account hackers / stealers, they dont exist, in the real world a thief did not "break and enter" if you leave your front door open if your char name is the same as your username for the account all he has to do is guess your password, or use a commonly available brute force guessing tool. In any MMORGP there are only 2 kinds of people, 1. the sensible and secure who keep an account ,,,, 2. the people who give login's to other people for whatever reason and have the account stolen. if you give your keys to your car to a thief and tell him to take it for a spin, the police would do nothing and your insurance would not pay out,,,, so why on earth should any game developer waste time and money chasing the accounts of the stupid anyway thats my 2c worth, im not saying the game is "the best" or anything, but its certainly not a total waste of time, and not nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be, its free,,, what has any new player got to loose by trying it ???? Garuthius !!!!!
Ok 1st off i can prove it cuz a friend of mine is a mod 4 the game and he has already told me of a few ppl he has created cheats 4. Plus 4 a nominal fee he would make 1 4 u 2. true he is just a mod but he backs up the truth about the gm's. I wont use cheats or hacks cuz i have something that cheaters and hackers dont have and thats skill. But honestly that wont really help either. The gm's dont care and and on most servers do help cheaters and hackers if they dont help them they help no 1 else. Iv been playing the game 4 about 2 years now and yes i am a db buyer and no it doesnt help with matters cuz gms dont care bout that if ur not on their friend list. but if it wasnt 4 all the money and time i put n2 the game i would have quit a long time ago. As 4 my friend i will not divulge his name cuz well hell he is my friend. So believe or not. Play and u will c 4 urself over time. but let me save u the time and dont start playing at all if ur gonna spend money on a game go WoW !!!!!!!!!
Judging form your typing you are an idiot but i believe what you say is true thank you for changing my mind about this game anyways
lmao u want 2 call me an idiot for my typing it isnt as if i was misspelling anything. My using the letter "2" instead of spelling "to" and subsatuting other various letters or using shorter sounding spelling is just lazy typing not ignorance u may think it is stupid but that doesnt make me an idiot. btw u should check ur own spelling b4 calling some1 an idiot!!
Anyhow my typing wasnt was in question but i am glad u got the point of wat i was saying bout the game and now that they r gonna b using the point system in their combat system is just another example of their money hungry greediness. I have myself just recently quit the game.
I played this game for all of 4 days. It was quite enjoyable at first, then I found the two problems that made me quit: kill stealing (I know it's not all botting, as one player stopped to tell me how he'd just "pwned" me ) and what I see as a fault with the unrestricted PKing. That being the fact that, if you're in peace mode, you've basically committed suicide. You can't attack other players, but anyone in PK mode can attack and kill you freely. WTF? How can that possibly make any sense to anyone?
A player on the CO forum told me I was just sore because I didn't kill them first. No, that has nothing to do with it. I don't care about PKing, because that's not why I play these games. If I want to go PvP, I'll go to an arena type area. In 2+ years on City of Heroes, I've never even been tempted to go PvP.
I think they should make it alot clearer on their website that this game is aimed more at people who enjoy PKing.
1. unless you pay real money to get ingame items your gonna suck and people can kill you freely
2. so repetitave ive i wanted to go around swinging what i think might be a sword and killing pheasants till im level ten id just buy a sword go pheasant hunting with it and make a charcter sheet for myself its funner and supriseingly less degrating than co
3. awful community i ask people for help i getkilled i ask gms i get nothing wtf
4. lame bosses all they are is bigger versions of the animals u just killed for hours and they call them kings
5. horrible quests and none of them the quests are so retarded and you get one like every 20 levels whats the meaning of grind again?
i do like one thing and thats uhhhhhhh ........... ummmmm uhhhhh well uhhh give me a minute to think about it............ nvm forget i said anything
When lookin at screenshots i got a strange feeling of goin back in time... but whatever, graphics isn't the most important, so i'm headin to their main page in order to read smth bout classes and races.
What i get? Let's see... click on introduction - there's some short story, ok, but i'm interessed in classes etc. click on playguide... strange link - from http://www.conqueronline.com/ to http://www.conqueronline.com/# but no matter i click and quess what? same site! That happens too when clickin on Account, Download, Support, Community, Galleries, Sales... i don know whether i still wanna play this game .-.
And one thing more: when finally got to download site... spotted interesting detail - the version of the game file is: 4354
3. They are told by their company/organization to prioritize their help to those who has paid real money to buy certain in-game items they sell on their website.
This happens in a free 2 play games: You buy items on our itemshop, you are better than others who don't.
Why shouldnt ppl play this game? Simple: It sucks! The graphics r crap, you cant rotate the camera, the controls r limited, its constantly at a difficult angle to manipulate, and overall its just a really, really boring thing!!!
Heh, all this stuff makes the game sound fun actually. Most games have such crappy pvp systems designed to protect crappy players. GM's are best when they don't do anything. If people get hacked then its their own fault.
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I guess Conquer Online's company/makers have paid attention to what you guys sadi. I just tried it out, and found it to be not that bad at all. I mean, geez, its a free to play game with a pretty big population.
Like the bots and hacking? Never happened to me or my friends in the game... but I guess used to happen a lot.
Oh and I can see you your point with the 2d backgrounds -they're pretty old Diablo 1 style. I guess I like gameplay moe than aesthetiks
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All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
John Lennon
I think the point of the matter is that the GM does not know he is being used in this way
follow this
GM recieves a complaint about "UserXYZ"
GM knows this user and has them on MSN and decides to confront the user directly
although the GM knows this user, he doesnt know him on a personal level and doesnt know that the user has been account hacking etc etc but because the GM regards the user as a kind of friend, he is more likey to believe his friends lies than the truth of an unknown.
The other scenario of course is: After our cheating "UserXYZ" is caught and has his ill gotten gains removed by GM1, he talks to GM2 (his friend) and tells GM2 of how he has been wronged by a GM, that the stuff was his etc etc etc and once again plays on his friendship with a person in power,,,, and after enough complaining and lying GM2 believes his friend and re-returns the stolen goods to the thief.
It is not story of dodgy GM's, it is a story of liars abusing the trust and friendship with GM's
I no longer play this game, but i did, for nearly 2 years, i was in a good guild, with good friends on an ok server. i got an archer to lvl 92 and lots of other characters up to similar levels... and i basically got really really really bored with each one. The game has nothing new once you get your levels a bit higher, its just a boring grind, i guess i will go back to it someday,,, maybe when i run out of RW money and need a good free mmorpg
as for account hackers / stealers, they dont exist, in the real world a thief did not "break and enter" if you leave your front door open
if your char name is the same as your username for the account all he has to do is guess your password, or use a commonly available brute force guessing tool. In any MMORGP there are only 2 kinds of people, 1. the sensible and secure who keep an account ,,,, 2. the people who give login's to other people for whatever reason and have the account stolen.
if you give your keys to your car to a thief and tell him to take it for a spin, the police would do nothing and your insurance would not pay out,,,, so why on earth should any game developer waste time and money chasing the accounts of the stupid
anyway thats my 2c worth, im not saying the game is "the best" or anything, but its certainly not a total waste of time, and not nearly as bad as you guys are making it out to be, its free,,, what has any new player got to loose by trying it ????
Garuthius !!!!!
It's the same ppl over and over again posting negative shiit...
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lmao u want 2 call me an idiot for my typing it isnt as if i was misspelling anything. My using the letter "2" instead of spelling "to" and subsatuting other various letters or using shorter sounding spelling is just lazy typing not ignorance u may think it is stupid but that doesnt make me an idiot. btw u should check ur own spelling b4 calling some1 an idiot!!
Anyhow my typing wasnt was in question but i am glad u got the point of wat i was saying bout the game and now that they r gonna b using the point system in their combat system is just another example of their money hungry greediness. I have myself just recently quit the game.
People become hacked, yess thats right. BUT HOW DO THEY GOT HACKED??
If u logg in on a website or someting like that and give u pasw and so on for nice items or money, u will become hacked yesssss.
If u use the aimbots and speedhack and all the hacks for advantages in the game, u will become hacked, yess correct....
bad GMs, sucky company, and awful players thats all i got to say
I played this game for all of 4 days. It was quite enjoyable at first, then I found the two problems that made me quit: kill stealing (I know it's not all botting, as one player stopped to tell me how he'd just "pwned" me
) and what I see as a fault with the unrestricted PKing. That being the fact that, if you're in peace mode, you've basically committed suicide. You can't attack other players, but anyone in PK mode can attack and kill you freely. WTF? How can that possibly make any sense to anyone?
A player on the CO forum told me I was just sore because I didn't kill them first. No, that has nothing to do with it. I don't care about PKing, because that's not why I play these games. If I want to go PvP, I'll go to an arena type area. In 2+ years on City of Heroes, I've never even been tempted to go PvP.
I think they should make it alot clearer on their website that this game is aimed more at people who enjoy PKing.
reasons to not play hmmmm
1. unless you pay real money to get ingame items your gonna suck and people can kill you freely
2. so repetitave ive i wanted to go around swinging what i think might be a sword and killing pheasants till im level ten id just buy a sword go pheasant hunting with it and make a charcter sheet for myself its funner and supriseingly less degrating than co
3. awful community i ask people for help i getkilled i ask gms i get nothing wtf
4. lame bosses all they are is bigger versions of the animals u just killed for hours and they call them kings
5. horrible quests and none of them the quests are so retarded and you get one like every 20 levels whats the meaning of grind again?
i do like one thing and thats uhhhhhhh ........... ummmmm uhhhhh well uhhh give me a minute to think about it............ nvm forget i said anything
When lookin at screenshots i got a strange feeling of goin back in time... but whatever, graphics isn't the most important, so i'm headin to their main page in order to read smth bout classes and races.
What i get?
Let's see... click on introduction - there's some short story, ok, but i'm interessed in classes etc.
click on playguide... strange link - from http://www.conqueronline.com/ to http://www.conqueronline.com/# but no matter i click and quess what? same site!
That happens too when clickin on Account, Download, Support, Community, Galleries, Sales... i don know whether i still wanna play this game .-.
And one thing more: when finally got to download site... spotted interesting detail - the version of the game file is: 4354
What a shame man.
I gave this game a chance, knowing I'd be regretting it. And I sure did.
Nothing more than a stand alone client Asian-runescape. It kept my interest for 5 minutes before I un-installed it.
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Why shouldnt ppl play this game? Simple: It sucks! The graphics r crap, you cant rotate the camera, the controls r limited, its constantly at a difficult angle to manipulate, and overall its just a really, really boring thing!!!
I agree this game is a waste of time.
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Heh, all this stuff makes the game sound fun actually. Most games have such crappy pvp systems designed to protect crappy players. GM's are best when they don't do anything. If people get hacked then its their own fault.
Are you a Pavlovian Fish Biscuit Addict? Get Help Now!
I will play no more MMORPGs until somethign good comes out!
This thread started in 2006, but now it's 2008.
I guess Conquer Online's company/makers have paid attention to what you guys sadi. I just tried it out, and found it to be not that bad at all. I mean, geez, its a free to play game with a pretty big population.
Like the bots and hacking? Never happened to me or my friends in the game... but I guess used to happen a lot.
Oh and I can see you your point with the 2d backgrounds -they're pretty old Diablo 1 style. I guess I like gameplay moe than aesthetiks
Before the coming of the ball sack, god invented the scrototype! It is one of a kind!
I just have lost 2 hours from my life trying this game...its laaaame....boring and have nothing to do with a real online game...
never cry ......just screem
idk why ppl dont play this game, but i like this game.
yes, this thread started from 2006, and now its 2008, it changed a lot and its being better and better.
I personally enjoy playing this game with friends, Conquer Online HAS changed ALOT ALOT
It's actually gotten better & its gonna continue to get better
This game can be played with other games too, doesn't lagg =]
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I had just been given a warning about posting excessive negative comments here. I'll just read your comments. ^^