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freakworld
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But I just can't get into it. Might have been fun if there was someone with me.
But solo it's 
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Yes i know what you mean
Im new to this game and
my starting city is a ghost city
There is nobody there !!! Its a great game but it need some PLAYERS
It feels like playing an offline rpg
The first 10-15 levels are pretty much designed for solo play. Thats the way it is. Also keep in mind that there are numerous starting regions scattered throughout the world, so the starting population is scattered. That will be largely rectified with the new starting island, where all newcomers will start in the same zone, and then move onto their racial areas.
Once you get into your mid-teens or early 20s, you will be moving onto larger quest hubs, where you will find plenty of other players your level. Veskal's exchange and Renton Keep in Thestra are prime examples. Skrillien point is another example in Quaila.
Well for better or for worse VG is designed such that it feels emptier then most games. On seradon for example I've seen 1500+ players online at peak on that server. Did you know that that is a larger number then the average wow server has at peak?
So where are all the people?
VG is designed kinda like a pyramid. At lowest level there are many areas people are spead out over. As you level up you get funneled into fewer areas and you start seeing more people. From lvl 1-10 if you are in some of the more obscure starting areas you might not see anyone or just a person or two passing by. As you move up to the second tier areas at lvl 10-15 or so you will start seeing people. Plus around lvl 15-20 you will start finding more group oriented quests and the rift stones that will allow you to get around.
The LFG tool is your friend. Turn on lfg and you can get an invite. Using the rift stones and rentable mounts you can really go anywhere in the world pretty quickly.
What about /ooc ? Well one thing about geting groups with /ooc is you need to know that ooc is limited to continents. So if you go /ooc "lvl 17 warrior lfg in kojan you will only be heard by people in kojan. Unfortunately Kojan is one of the less popular continents because there are fewer starting areas there and it maxes out around lvl 20 or so.
So hope over the thestra or qalia. A really popular dungeon at lvl 15 is KE in thestra. Great dungeon experience and lots of fun.
a good link to keep handy is www.whitetalon.com/dungeonfinder2/default.aspx this will let you see where dungeons are and give you an idea what areas are good for you at various levels.
In the 20s there is a great quest series that is popular in kojan tomb of lord tsang. in mid 20s trengal keep (tk) in thestra or in qalia hunters league quests or coterie infinum quest line (cis) are all very popular.
Here is another handy link wiki.silkyvenom.com/index.php/Level_Guide
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Ethion
I think I just don't want to lv in a new game. I am going to play WAR when it comes out.
I am a true hater of leveling in any game. I was in WoW from day one and only lv 2 alts.
Thats funny bro i played WoW for about 2 years on and off. I only had my main. I tryed to level alts i just couldn't do it.I dont know how people can have alts when they have to play through the same content to level up.
Now vanguard on the other hand i have 8 alts , 3 of them healer classes. Man you couldnt pay me enough to play a healer in any other game, but in vanguard i love them. But anyways 8 alts and i still havent seen everything in vanguard.
Ive actually been thinking about getting the station pass just for the 4 extra character slots for vanguard, but i dont want sony to think i like there other games because i wouldnt pay 1 cent to play any of them. But vanguard even if they double the sub all still be there
I cant believe how much vanguard has changed how i play my MMO's. Before i would'nt play anything but a rogue i never rolled an alt in any game and i wouldn't play a caster if my life depended on it.
Now am an altaholic, my favorite classes are healers for me vanguard is without a doubt the best game out there by far. I may stop for a few months for a break but vanguard will still get my money.
You still have to level in War you know, have fun on your linear little path to whatever max level is in War
Thank you for the information. Like WoW, Vanguard is impossible for me to comprehend (scale-wise). A layout like the one you've given makes things much simpler and easier to digest.
I swear, I've been playing Vanguard for a month now, and I've barely scratched the surface. The one thing I can consistently say I hate about Vanguard is that the player isn't given a course of action, you're thrown in to do what you want. I like it, but I don't. I love that I can do what I want, but I hate those times where I don't know what I want to do...I usually log off when that happens.
To the OP. Either quit playing MMOs, or ask if anyone would like to group up. Vanguard's a great game, and I am never short on finding people doing something. I usually solo, but when I need help, /1 (what you want to say) is your friend. Another nice thing about Vanguard, no idiots play. In a month of playing I've not met a single asshole in the game.
Good luck on WoW2, well...WAR.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
I don't know what level you are. But I recognize that feeling.
At those time I usually goes the links provided and look up things. I guess you know about the shadowhound quest line, hunters league, URT. There are more but I think those are the most recognized and you done that I guess.
There is things that is not described but is there, that you will find out by just roaming around.
But maybe you know and have thougth about this.
I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
"You have the right not to be killed"
yeah its a fantastic game now these days but the number of players is bad. just cause the first 15 to 20 levels are soloable doesnt mean the starting cities should be ghost towns. its that way cause barely anyone plays. if VG could get a bunch of people to come back it would be so fun. If only Sigil and SOE didnt release the game all messed up. having the game be like this at launch would of kept every person that bought it and the game would be a hustlin bustlin big time fun game
Theres no reason to hang around the big cities bro, its not becuase theres no one playing.why would i bother going to one of the cities in vanguard when i can access everything i neeed in 100's of different spots
Its not like other games that use cheap tricks like, you can only access your bank or the broker from here so thats where everyone hangs out. In vanguard your free to go and be anywhere you want most likly there will be a mailbox , broker , bank, whatever you need trainers there all over the game . why the heck would i go to the cities so i can stand around with all the other AFK players like other games that force people to hang in the same spots
I agree here as well. The game is so vast that it tends to be "ghostly" at times which make it to me feel like I am the only one in certain "newbie" areas. I even check the General Chat only to see very little or no chat. So typing for help or advice may get you no reply, which is sad in many ways. But to echo another poster, it would be nice to have a general purpose on what to do next or where I should be heading next. I am sure though that the more I play the more I will find out!
Its worse to actually think about doing something then actually doing it!!!
I'd bet that seradon has more people logged on at peak then whatever EQ2 server you are playing on... Like I said it only seems like there are not many people because the there are so many starting areas and the world is so spread out. If you do a player count there are actually more players then you think.
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Ethion
I'd bet that seradon has more people logged on at peak then whatever EQ2 server you are playing on... Like I said it only seems like there are not many people because the there are so many starting areas and the world is so spread out. If you do a player count there are actually more players then you think.
ok im playing eq1 not eq2. and eq1 is a ghost town as well. i played vg again after the free trial ended and i played a lil bit of everything. the most bustling newb area i found was tanvu and it was mostly high end chars just stoppin through. each newb city has 1 to 3 people in it through out the day. the majority of players on seradon are high level toons. the game needs more subs
I'd bet that seradon has more people logged on at peak then whatever EQ2 server you are playing on... Like I said it only seems like there are not many people because the there are so many starting areas and the world is so spread out. If you do a player count there are actually more players then you think.
ok im playing eq1 not eq2. and eq1 is a ghost town as well. i played vg again after the free trial ended and i played a lil bit of everything. the most bustling newb area i found was tanvu and it was mostly high end chars just stoppin through. each newb city has 1 to 3 people in it through out the day. the majority of players on seradon are high level toons. the game needs more subs
You sure didnt play on the same seradon i play on.
They may want to make it were you can start off with one max lv. (just one)
I know all the bla bla about work for it and all the new people that don't know what there doing.
But think about that statement a min.
All the NEW people that don't know what there doing.
It would really give the game a new jolt it has been needing.
yeah it's called bad game design. thats why sandbox games suck. i tried for 30 day s, couldn't do it. the game lacks a lot of things. it's just not worth the montthly fee. most importanty i m a performance whore, if a game doent run smooth like WOW, LOTRO or WAR, it is a major turn off to me. another thing is you have to roll on quest items, when you have to get 35 of something and you have a group of six it's just horrible. very poor quest design. the world is bland and empty. the new character models are horrible as original. i thought having all those starting zones was cool, but it is a major flaw in design. thats why WOW, WAR and LOTRO are sucessfull. if you have too many starting zones there are going to be too many ghost town from level 1-20. for vanguard to recovr, they would need an optimized game engine, completely new character modeler, fire the current one, add about 5 times more geometry to the world and give it some life, kill 2/3 of there strting zones. shrink the world size in half, fix the ugly ass gui, new animations. then you will have a much better game.
I'd bet that seradon has more people logged on at peak then whatever EQ2 server you are playing on... Like I said it only seems like there are not many people because the there are so many starting areas and the world is so spread out. If you do a player count there are actually more players then you think.
ok im playing eq1 not eq2. and eq1 is a ghost town as well. i played vg again after the free trial ended and i played a lil bit of everything. the most bustling newb area i found was tanvu and it was mostly high end chars just stoppin through. each newb city has 1 to 3 people in it through out the day. the majority of players on seradon are high level toons. the game needs more subs
Hmm the last time I did a break down on number of people per level it was pretty evenly distributed. I'll try to log on tomorrow earlier and do a player cound per level tier and post the numbers here. Just for grins I'll do the same thing on eq2. I can't do it on wow anymore cause I canceled by you can see from the census site that wow has almost no character that aren't max level.
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Ethion
yeah it's called bad game design. thats why sandbox games suck. i tried for 30 day s, couldn't do it. the game lacks a lot of things. it's just not worth the montthly fee. most importanty i m a performance whore, if a game doent run smooth like WOW, LOTRO or WAR, it is a major turn off to me. another thing is you have to roll on quest items, when you have to get 35 of something and you have a group of six it's just horrible. very poor quest design. the world is bland and empty. the new character models are horrible as original. i thought having all those starting zones was cool, but it is a major flaw in design. thats why WOW, WAR and LOTRO are sucessfull. if you have too many starting zones there are going to be too many ghost town from level 1-20. for vanguard to recovr, they would need an optimized game engine, completely new character modeler, fire the current one, add about 5 times more geometry to the world and give it some life, kill 2/3 of there strting zones. shrink the world size in half, fix the ugly ass gui, new animations. then you will have a much better game.
Please play WAR and leave this game alone. Its a lot better game than VG anyway, judging from the 50++ posts you made there.
I'd bet that seradon has more people logged on at peak then whatever EQ2 server you are playing on... Like I said it only seems like there are not many people because the there are so many starting areas and the world is so spread out. If you do a player count there are actually more players then you think.
ok im playing eq1 not eq2. and eq1 is a ghost town as well. i played vg again after the free trial ended and i played a lil bit of everything. the most bustling newb area i found was tanvu and it was mostly high end chars just stoppin through. each newb city has 1 to 3 people in it through out the day. the majority of players on seradon are high level toons. the game needs more subs
You sure didnt play on the same seradon i play on.
I agree, I'm on Seradon...What in the hell are you saying, Sigamon? Vanguard isn't WoW, you're not encapsulated in what everyone else has to do. You can do what YOU want. If you want to group up, use general chat. From the looks of it, you don't know how to. ( /1 (What you want to say) is your friend)
I really have NEVER had problems finding the help that I need. I take that back, once I had to call (PM) in a friend to help me in an area. It was mostly because the area I was in, was difficult for two people, and very boring. But, if I were playing WoW, I would have been forced to play in that spot for another few levels, finishing the questlines. Not so in Vanguard, I did what I wanted and got as far away from that place as I could. If anyone wants to know what I'm talking of, Ksavari Gulch...I hate that place.
But really, to anyone who's just ignorantly ranting against Vanguard, I feel like deleting your post and your account. There are plenty of things wrong with this game, the community and the amount of players are not two of those problems. Don't even try bringing them up, at least if you're on Seradon.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
I think Im gonna give Vanguard a go. I can get the game from ebay cheap enough to try it. So does anyone have a buddy key that I can have, to try the game out, before I buy it, and possibly waste $13.00. ru_wet4me@hotmail.com
ok here are the seradon numbers at 6:30pm PST
Here are the numbers for EQ on najena the server I play on at 6:30pm PST
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Ethion
Thanks for the information, I'd like to know where you got the chart.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
I made it. I log onto the server and did /who all 1 10 count making sure I got numbers small enough or I broke it into smaller groups till I got numbers less then max. At 50 I did /who all scout 50
It took a bit of work to make that. When I did it last time I had an active wow account and i did it on wow too but now I can use the wow census site to see numbers.
Here is some info on wow. This shows the distribution of levels and classes on the server I play on in wow.
www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php
There is another chart that shows the usage on the server.
www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyfactionactivity.php
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Ethion
Ah, that makes sense. The /who function has always confused me, a jumble of information never helped anyone is my belief. Guess I'm wrong.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Nice chart but why not make it fair? since you used vanguards most populated server, compare it to Eq2's Antonia bayles server.
Cause I don't have any accounts on that server and all my slots are full. I play on najena. Although if you have an account just do the same thing I did at around 6:30 on AB...
Do
/who all 1 10
/who all 11 20
etc
/who all 70 79
/who all 80 scout
/who all 80 mage
/who all 80 fighter
/who all 80 priest
I'm not sure what the max number /who can report so also do
/who all 1 80 to find the max number. If any of hte numbers above hit max break it down into smaller chunks like /who all 15 20.
Although I wasn't really trying to talk about eq2 numbers other then to say that VG has a good number of people and that the distribution by level is pretty good.
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Ethion