Interested in Vanguard

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• ethion Member UncommonPosts: 2,888

  August 2008

  Originally posted by heremypet
  
  
  Hey I'm an old EQ player looking for something similar but more modern.
  Can any players answer a few questions?
  Is the game difficult like old school eq was?
  No.  It might be a bit more then some games out today but not overly difficult and definitely not comparable to EQ.
  what is this no level limit thing? does that mean I can get to level 2billion? haha
  The level limit is 50
  how is the pvp? i checked and found that a ffa pvp and team pvp server merged so which is it now? (sartok)
  The game is mostly PvE oriented and until the PvE side is doing good there will likely not be any real emphasis by development on PvP.  There is a FFA PvP server but the population on it is pretty low.  I think something like 300 at peak.
  are most equipment crafted or looted?
  I think there is a good balance.  Crafted loot tends to be rather expensive but is about the best you can get for the top tier.  It is also really nice in that you can have it made per your spec so you get exactly the atributes you want.
  However due to the cost you won't be able to afford setting up with all top tier stuff.  The lower tier crafted stuff is pretty comparable to loot with rare loot or some quest stuff being better.  So I find that my characters tend to have a combination.  Some crafted some looted. However after you are lvl 50 and starting to raid I'm guessing the looted stuff will become the best.
  can diplomats and crafters engage in battle?
  VG is like 3 games in one.  You can level up and play diplomacy and crafting completely independent of adventuring.  You level separately and even have separate stats and equipment for both of these areas.
  is there an insta warp travel feature or the ole hoofing it?
  You can use rift stones to teleport.  They cost a bit of money to use but not much.  They will teleport you between many quest hub areas.  At most rift stones there are also flying mount vendors so you can rent a flying mount for 5 minutes and fly. 
  However for most of the time questing or going places you will use your trusty horse.  You get a horse at lvl 10 and can upgrade him with various equipment or buy better horses as you level.  You can also get other types of mounts like unicorns etc.  Then later around 40+ there are quests you can do to get your own flying mount.  The game also has boats that crafters can make.
  any bigtime severe gameplay or balance issues?
  Nothing I'd call severe.  There are typical things where some classes solo better then others.  Mostly due to kiting mobs or fear kiting.  Things you should be familiar with having played EQ.  Same things apply.
  thanks alot!
  

   

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  Ethion
• bhuma Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 78

  August 2008

  The new trial island will be out soon, probably in mid September. You can then try it out for yourself. There are plenty of old EQ1 players that are now happily playing Vanguard, myself included. No its definitely not as difficult as old school EQ1. But it offers a much better challenge than EQ2, WoW, or Lotro, and has an EQ1 'feel' about it, much more so than those other games. Its worth checking out and forming your own opinion.
• shassell Member UncommonPosts: 105

  August 2008

  Hi,

  It had an EQ feel about it, no doubt theres been a lot of work done to imrove the bugs and smooth it out. However, any sense of challenge has been torn right out. It really is carebear now. I f you want a fluffy mmo that runs ok, Vanguards not bad now. If you want a challenge and something with depth, move on cause its not for you. Shame really, it had enormous potential.
• bhuma Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 78

  August 2008

  Originally posted by shassell
  
  
  Hi,
  It had an EQ feel about it, no doubt theres been a lot of work done to imrove the bugs and smooth it out. However, any sense of challenge has been torn right out. It really is carebear now. I f you want a fluffy mmo that runs ok, Vanguards not bad now. If you want a challenge and something with depth, move on cause its not for you. Shame really, it had enormous potential.
  

  
  
   

  Lol. Ummm ok I'll bite.

  Move on to where? EQ2, nope its easier than VG. WoW, nope its easier than
  
  VG. Lotro, nope its easier than VG. City of Heroes, nope its easier than VG. Got any good suggestions?

  The only AAA titles that might have greater challenge are FFXI, Eve, or Lineage 2. If you are looking for serious challenge look there.

  But VG is far from being just a fluffy 'carebear' game as the poster above me implies. He is obviously a person whose ultra hardcore expectations were shattered when VG did not provide an EQ1 clone, which could hope to provide a challenge to an 'uber' group of six experts. Me? Im just a dummy. When I wander into VG dungeons appropriate for my level, with maybe one or two other people, I find them very challenging.

  As I said in my earlier post, its best to form your own opinions about these things rather than listen to some opinionated know it all, blinded by his own expectations.

  /shrug.
• Umbral Member Posts: 1,051

  August 2008

  Bhuma

   

   Well, in the end, the challenge is a bit relative.

   Everquest 2 still has some dungeons and raids that are more challenging than Vanguard´s content, even in the EoF era, MMCastle were a harder place for healers and tanks than any Vanguard dungeon, while usually Vanguard´s dungeons were harder than simple EQ2 small group areas.

   Lineage 2 is a easy game PvE wise, very easy to tell the truth, but time consuming, this is why 90% os players uses bot to level, this mean it is a simple and easy game but very grindy, PvP is more challenging.

   Final Fantasy is a challenging game as some zones in Guild Wars like FOW are harder than most Vanguard dungeons.

  I think there is a huge differance between hard and challenging gameplay and time consuming, to tell the truth, I think Vanguard is well balanced in this area, yes, it could recieve some harder dungeons as the top dungeons in EQ2, but it is ok right now.

  The major issue is the lack of talented developers and devs these days among Vanguard crew.

   

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