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SoE Out? LucasArts In? Very Big Rumor as of now..
Lazzaro
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Quoted form the Jedi Board.
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I know I should not be greasing the gossip wheels after all Rumor is a nasty beast that leads Past The swamps of heresay, through the forest of tittle-tattle to the Dark Castle of Speculation, and pretty soon your in the Lost Dungeons of assumption blindly flailing about for the lost chalice of Scandal......err anyway.
Okay I have a good acquaintance that is a semi-regular contributor to the Force.Net, and has even had a couple articles in Star Wars gamer, and Star Wars Insider. He told me this evening that He has it on good authority that SOE and Lucasarts are about to end their relationship. He said that the New SWG and JTLS sites on LA's homepage are the first hint of this, Apparently Lucasarts is less than happy with SOE, because SOE has drifted too far from Raph Kosters original Vision of SWG and wants to go solo. (No Not Han silly) SOE from what I have heard is more than willing to say adios because Lucasarts has been less than willing to let them Drive so to speak. (Which I think is insane because Lucasarts has basically been there in name only since Beta) and SOE
But wait theres more... He said that The day after JTLS is Live they will announce Expansion pack II, and Thank SOE for all of there hard work, and announce that the Game is going to be handled form hence forth by Lucasarts, they will give a schedule about Billing changes, and server Migration, and that will probably include some server consolidation.
Okay is it real or fantasy at this point who knows, I have as have many other fans heard that at Some Point Lucasarts will go solo with SWG, it is no small secret that they are considering another MMORPG, and a Premium game service, and I have to say that my friend is not given to flights of fancy (Except for that long weekend in Dublin with the Tibetan Contortionist, and her Twin sister ) Personally I think that while the timeline is a bit suspect the over all story has some foundation. How do you think this would effect the game?
Raph Koster originally wanted RPG to actually mean something in SWG, in fact his Vision was a computerized version of the SW Role Playing game with no Player Character Jedi. It has been said that George Lucas is not happy with the product, and that at first he was very excited about the potential of the game. True or not the whole concept is interesting to say the least. I must admit I do not know what SWG would be like without SOE. But it looks like we may be finding out.
There is also a job posting on the Lucasarts site for a new Senior Director for SWG. It may be something to keep an eye on.
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There is also this http://www.lucasarts.com/jobs/descriptions/?ID=director
I know it doesn't say anything about taking over. One of the major points it saids is that to strghten the relationship with the Outside Dev which is SOE, so maybe things will get done much much faster.
ALso if you read the "Theforce.net" they are giving 10 free days to old vet players trying to get them back. To me that sounds like a plee for more people becasue so many epople are cancelling thier accounts.
Here is some food for thought: If you read the "Theforce.net" they wrote that SoE is giving 10 Free days to Vets like me and you to come back.
So here is my question if they were doing so well why would they do this? It looks like it to me that they are more desperate then we know.
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Oh God please let this be true. I'll reactivate my account in a heartbeat if this is true. I've often felt that the game was okay but simply couldnt tolerate the shoddy treatment and lies from SOE.
And maybe they'll actually fix the combat balance, the timeline issue with jedi, add content, fix day 1 bugs, add live npc toons (not sure the term, but basically a real person interacting with players as Luke, etc which was promised before launch), and improve customer service.
I think this could definitely be a step in the right direction.
Any game would do well to rid itself of SOE. I don't know if Lucas arts is ready to run an MMO but the way I see it they couldn't possibly do any worse than SOE has.
Hmm... George Lucas is unhappy with the treatment his story has gotten from SOE. Well Imagine that. I mean its not like they took Star Wars and completely obliterated all continuity and balance.....oh wait that is exactly what they did. Well then I suppose I can understand why he is a bit perturbed.
Its like we have been saying all along. We DO want a Star Wars MMO. This game however is NOT Star Wars. I certainly hope that this rumor is true and that they actually intend to undo the horrible injustices done by SOE to this potentially great game.
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The game is already in shambles. The worst LA can do is finish it off. Also i see the rumor is on the boards over there now too. Of course most of the fanboys left are in complete denial lol
The fanbois live in a state of permanent denial....
You can show some people incontrovertible proof and explain something to them using the keenest of logic displaying all of the facts and breaking it down into a language that they can understand.....
Yet somehow they still manage not to see what is right in front of their noses.
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I think a lot of this is Bull!!!
Wasn't Ralph Koster promoted soon after SWG went live to person in charge of every online game for Sony Online Entertainment? If thats the case how far has SWG gone from his vision if he was promoted. He must not have argued to much about the direction of the game if he was promoted he must have made a lot friends within SOE.
Isn't this not the first time they are giving away free come back and play your old account in SWG. I seem to remember it once before.
I know Planetside has done it once, and that is a SOE product. EQ has done it at least three times.
On a side note its easy to say someone is not happy with the game, ala GLucas. Whether true or not, can he say he is happy with the latest movies what is he going to re-shoot those?
Before you all rush off for the resubscribe button, think about how long it will take before all the changes/content will be included into SWG to make it the game you want it to be.
I think everyone is deluding themselves by just finding faults bugs and people to blame for the travesty that is SWG
Just admit it it's a bloody boring game!
Pan
Pan
Well I know at least part of the rumor is crap. In an interview that was posted on the official SWG site Lucas Arts confirmed there would be player characters as Jedi. So to say it's not what they wanted is a lie.
So here is your answer:
1. I personally think it is NICE that LucasArts takes 100% control over SWG. Only because SOE is trying to run 4 (FOUR) major MMORPGs at the same time! EQ, PS, SWG, EQ2. Not good. If LucasArts can concentrate on just SWG then there is a better chance players will be listened to, and the core game tweaked.
2. LucasArts taking 100% control over SWG can also be the worse thing ever. They have NEVER made an effort to post on the SWG forums. Oh wait, they sorta did 1 time - back when they were persecuting a well known Star Wars fansite. Even then, it took the owner of that fansite posting FIRST to force a confrontation with LucasArts. Even then, LucasArts still did not make a real effort to post. It was the SWG game DEVs who acted as the middle men telling LucasArts to leave alone that famous Star Wars fansite.
3. Again, maybe SWG was your first ever MMORPG. Maybe you still have not checked out other MMORPGs. BUT the fact is every single successful MMORPG have all given out free days to vet players to get them to come back. EQ being the most famous and well known for doing this. (It almost seems like they do it every single month LOL!
). SWG is not the only MMORPG to do this. Going by your thinking, then every single other MMORPG is desperate and about to die.... EQ, AC, UO, Lin, AC2 *ok that one is about to die*, EvE, DAoC, AS3, RS, AO, and on and on.
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Good points Exploror...
To all those who think lucasarts can improve SWG remember some of the horrid star wars games they released upon us!
Pan
Pan
I'm just bringing what I hear
I have played many MMO's. I started playing 8 years back when UO was released.
SOE is evil!!
This may help the game, but all the help in the world is not going to fix the fundamental flaws in it. LA should end-of-life it if they take over and start again. I knew this game was doomed from the day they announced they were going to use the game engine they chose.
Anything LA does would take a year to implement if starting with a new dev team, so why bother? With WoW, EQ2, and the plethora of other titles coming out there'd be no one left...
Hopefully they're just taking back the game rights from SOE so they can't use "Star Wars" anymore. SOE just seems like a bunch of evil bastards that don't give a shit about anything but squeezing as much cash as they can from users without pissing them off so much they leave the game.
Not that I've ever seen a great game from LA though. They seem to all have the potential to be great, but then get it wrong.
Well, this is interesting!! I just let SWG go and I miss it so, but what I miss is the Star Wars music, scenery and what's left of the storyline. Maybe what I miss is my hopes and dreams about being part of that story, at least in my own imagination.
I voted that this would be a good thing, SoE indeed blows!! But I do understand that it would take time for it to happen. I will say that the minute this passes from rumor to fact I will do whatever it takes to get back into the game (finances being an issue). I will suffer through the transition gladly to support LA in bringing the game back into continuity with George's vision. I hate the jedi revamp. I hated the original jedi system. If becoming a jedi is even a possiblity in the game, it needs to be done completely different from anything that has been done so far. I hope, I hope, I hope this is true and that it bodes well for the future of a TRUE Star Wars MMORPG.
Wow did you actually read any of the posts besides the first one?
Let's all take a look at something: SOE has the MOST SUCCESSFUL MMO EVER CREATED under thier belt, Lucas Arts has a LONG string of craptacular games. Which one is more likely to be responsible for making a game crappy. The company that has a proven successful track record or the company that can't make a good game to save it's life? You do the math.
its too late to start over with SWG...
LA isn't just able to take out all jedi out of the game etc, then players would be even more furious....
the only way to make SWG a game to Lucas' heart is by starting over from scratch, but I don't see it happen...
I'm not what people are saying wrong or what you're not getting, but GEORGE LUCAS IS THE ONE WHO WANTED JEDI IN THE GAME TO BEGIN WITH. THE LEAD DESIGNER FOR SOE DIDN'T WANT JEDI IN THE GAME HE WAS OVERRULED BY GEORGE LUCAS.
So all you saying that SOE made a bad game becasue of Jedi, get it straight, George Lucas is the one who made the mistake by making SOE put them in there.
People complain about Jedi, but you have no clue how broken they are endless greifing by bounty Hunters Broken spcials, NO armor against weapons, poor defence, etcc you should take a peek at the SWG offical boards and go look at Jedi. A melee STacker can take out a Jedi in less then 1 min flat.
yes, but on the same token, Raph Koster wanted to give Mon Calamari Females Double D breasts and Lucas told him to take it out immediatley as fish aren't suppose to have Porn Star breasts.
My point is: Both sides of the fence made some really bad mistakes. However, it'll be interesting to see LucasArts try to turn this mmorpg around. I mean, in all honesty, I really don't see how LucasArts can make it worse?
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You're mixing up your stories. Some of the inital art had them with breasts and it was decided fish don't have them. Ralph didn't give Twil'iks double D's when there is an argument for them, so I really tend to doubt that he would have given any race "porn-star breasts"
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More SoE bashing lol.
I honestly dunno what people expect.SoE has made some elemental changes just to please the community.
Jedi been the biggest since they never wanted to include it in first place .Then they did.Then they said it would be hard to open.Again people moaned and they gave hints ok it was grind numerous professions but they did show people what to do.
Then there was the fact the jedi was suppose to not be uber but slightly better then another master combat profession another big moan.
Then people started moaning about permadeath they changed that.Originally it was suppose to be dead as in character not usable again.
Then folks complained about grinding professions so they made it quest/trial based.Again moans.
Now you have a community with nothing more on their mind then get a uber jedi ,so whose fault is this to start with?
SoE biggest mistake is not even releasing a buggy game ,it was listening to moaning Star wars fanatics.
Yes flame me but to me i doubt any company mythic,turbine,M$ or even lucasarts can do much with the type of community SWG has right now.
I've decided to get more constructive about development of SWG. Personally, I believe Lucas Arts would do a phenominal job, and that its SOEs commercialism that has brought SWG to its present state.
I also believe SWG has profound potential. Whatever happens, www.GameReformer.Com will be there to help gather consumer data for the devs and make suggestions for easy consideration by the dev team... whomever that will be at the moment.
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QuantumArtist
QuantumArtist
I definetly disagree.
SWG isnt the first game SOE has created unbalanced and messed up.
If Mr. Lucas was such a fanatic, why did he let anyone else create the game in the first place and take as much of a back seat as he did in its development?
I think hes just like any artist. They want their masterpeice to be done right. SOE promised they'd meet his vision and then failed to deliver. Its like they say, if you want it done right, you have to do it yourself. I think its extremely possible Mr. Lucas is really considering this.
QuantumArtist
QuantumArtist
You give Lucas too much credit. Have you seen the new Star Wars DVDs? You'd rethink that whole "artist who wants his masterpiece to be done right" thing.
You guys are trading one crack dealer for another if this rumor is true. At least one of them isn't a pompous ass.