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So the devs are going to just let this game die?

Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426

From what I've read the devs will all move to GW2 leaving GW1 worthless.

No new Xpacs no added content nothing!

Imagine if other companies did this, imagine if the Devs of EQ totally stopped adding content once Eq2 came out. you would see a massive QQ fest on forums.

I don't understand why people arent flaming the shit out of these devs.

Many people love GW1 and to be honest its a god damn shame that they aren't at least releasing content downloads anymore.

I'm sorry but just keeping the servers going isn't enough they should have a dedicated dev team for GW1 that atleast adds micro transaction addons like extra dungeons, new pvp types and new skills.

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  • the_nacksterthe_nackster Member Posts: 23

    Have faith young Padawan. First of all I never once heard the devs say the game was going to be abandoned. And secondly NCSoft has a pretty good track record at keeping their games going years after launch (lineage anyone?). What they probably meant is we arent likely to see any huge content updates until well after the GW2 Launch. No company would ever abandon a product with a multi million user base. Keep your panties on.

  • m240gulfm240gulf Member UncommonPosts: 460

    I don't claim to be an expert or have much knowledge into how NCSoft does business, but my guess is they do this because it is a free MMO.  They will not be bringing in the income like they used to with GW like they will with GW2.  From a business standpoint, this makes sense to shift resources to a money maker; however completely moveing 100% of staff to GW2 and leaving GW to rot seems a bit overboard.  I'm sure they will still have some people on GW's fixing old bugs or whatever comes up. 

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  • the_nacksterthe_nackster Member Posts: 23

    If nothing else we will at least still get the seasonal contests and decorations. Its a tradition for some new knicknack to appear each year so I think they will hold true to it.

  • Squal'ZellSqual'Zell Member Posts: 1,803

    as i have it understood, we signed (agreed) to an change in the EULA stating that they will close the GW servers ONLY if there is not enough people playing it to make it worthwhile keeping., but due to the amount of people and the nature of the game (pvp tournament orientated) i do not worry much about the servers closing. and i also trust a-net and nc soft to take the right action.

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  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by Z3R01


    I don't understand why people arent flaming the shit out of these devs.

    Maybe because said people actually do their homework? The devs have *stressed* that the game will not be abandoned. The servers will stay up, events will happen, there will be random content updates, balances etc. The only thing they aren't planning on doing is releasing expansions and new campaigns. They could easily shut down the servers if they wish.

  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426

    "The only thing they aren't planning on doing is releasing expansions and new campaigns"

     

     

    If the only thing Devs will put into this game from now on are Bug fixes and skill balancing then imo that means they are leaving it to die.

    I understand why they would do this, they want everyone playing GW1 to migrate over to GW2 in turn lowering the GW1 population and closing those servers down.

    It makes sense, It's just freaking lame.

    Anyway wasn't the majority of the GW content released through Expansions? saying that they wont make expansions anymore is the same as saying they aren't developing new content.

    No new Expansions = dead game

    Lets hope we all like GW2... hell even if we don't what choice do we have.

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  • GrrlGrrl Member UncommonPosts: 354

    Gee, I have all the GW expansions.. Eye of the North was the most fun one.. Although I got burnt out by playing it all :/ The community was absolutely terrible.. full of immature kids being absolutely rude, wow. I was amazed. The story lines, quests and the environments were gorgeous though. The graphics were very eye-catching. I wish they could provide more content though. Wish them the best of luck :)

  • PwndStarPwndStar Member Posts: 111
    Originally posted by m240gulf


    I don't claim to be an expert or have much knowledge into how NCSoft does business, but my guess is they do this because it is a free MMO.  They will not be bringing in the income like they used to with GW like they will with GW2.  From a business standpoint, this makes sense to shift resources to a money maker; however completely moveing 100% of staff to GW2 and leaving GW to rot seems a bit overboard.  I'm sure they will still have some people on GW's fixing old bugs or whatever comes up. 



     

    i agree, they will still maintain the game but just with a limited handful of people.

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  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    GW is not a mmorpg to begin with,

    its a mocrpg.

    multiplayer compitetive online rpg.





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  • illyanaillyana Member UncommonPosts: 614

    its been more than a year since the last expansion EOTN was released
    its been 16 months since they announced the they will create Guild Wars 2

    but Guild Wars still has a lot of players playing it
    far from dying, definitely not dead

    and ive seen many people still discovering the game for the first time and having lotsa fun
    ive seen people who have gone and came back recently
    i doubt that people will totally abandon GW1 to play GW2
    hotdog! some people wont even leave Pre Searing Ascalon behind!
    im foretelling that when we know what bonuses and extras we earn with our titles and HOM achievements, players will be moving back and forth between 1 & 2.

    dont worry, ANET loves GW, ANET loves its fans. they have pleasantly surprised us recently with MOX and the Fire Imp, and im sure there's more to come. GW is ANET's labor of love.

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  • exanimoexanimo Member UncommonPosts: 1,301

    becose this game is skills based , just skills balance makes this game alive , making chances to skills is almost like changing the game it selfe.

    i would be happy to see bigger changes in some elite pve areas , like doa , would love to see a massive income of people there. my dream would be a DoA armor.

    anyways , still tones of stuff to do , endless titles to get max rank.
    dungeons to master , and builds to test in pvp are just endless.

  • illyanaillyana Member UncommonPosts: 614

    thats so true neoteo
    still have tons of things to do
    im too busy right now vanquishing & HM missioning on my main char, i dont have time to play with my 8 other chars
    i got 5 more chars that hasnt finished EOTN yet
    and every other week a good weekend bonus hooks me in
    GW is still so alive for me

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  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by Z3R01


    "The only thing they aren't planning on doing is releasing expansions and new campaigns"
     
     
    If the only thing Devs will put into this game from now on are Bug fixes and skill balancing then imo that means they are leaving it to die.
    I understand why they would do this, they want everyone playing GW1 to migrate over to GW2 in turn lowering the GW1 population and closing those servers down.
    It makes sense, It's just freaking lame.
    Anyway wasn't the majority of the GW content released through Expansions? saying that they wont make expansions anymore is the same as saying they aren't developing new content.
    No new Expansions = dead game
    Lets hope we all like GW2... hell even if we don't what choice do we have.

    I like how you ignored the rest of my post. You obviously weren't there for the Sorrow's Furnace update, right? Well we'll probably see more of those happening.

  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426
    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by Z3R01


    "The only thing they aren't planning on doing is releasing expansions and new campaigns"
     
     
    If the only thing Devs will put into this game from now on are Bug fixes and skill balancing then imo that means they are leaving it to die.
    I understand why they would do this, they want everyone playing GW1 to migrate over to GW2 in turn lowering the GW1 population and closing those servers down.
    It makes sense, It's just freaking lame.
    Anyway wasn't the majority of the GW content released through Expansions? saying that they wont make expansions anymore is the same as saying they aren't developing new content.
    No new Expansions = dead game
    Lets hope we all like GW2... hell even if we don't what choice do we have.

    I like how you ignored the rest of my post. You obviously weren't there for the Sorrow's Furnace update, right? Well we'll probably see more of those happening.

    Nope, I didn't Ignore your post just quoted the one thing you said that stood out.

    Oh can you please link me any Info saying the devs will continue to add, dungeons, new skills, armor/weapons and quests to the game? seriously I think my post is valid.

    Maybe its just the F2p players mentality, they don't mind Devs giving them no content as long as they could play for free.

    Anyway I enjoy guild wars its a fun little game but if the devs only plan on doing BS events and balancing I will just stop playing cause I want more quests, dungeons and new skills to look forward to.

     

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  • illyanaillyana Member UncommonPosts: 614

    more quests? more dungeons?
    have you finished *all* of the quests in GW?
    have you vanquished and Hard Moded all areas and missions?
    im still working on it on my main character
    did you miss the recent MOX update added some pretty awesome quests?

    BS events?
    GW has the most fun, most unique events compared to subscription based MMO
    were you there last April Fools when all your chars became stick figures?
    how abt Wintersday in July? how abt Gaile's farewell party?
    GW has 1319 skills to choose from and you can only use 8 at a time, and you want more?
    recent updates have changed the functionality (not just some nerf) some unpopular skills


    but yeah, go ahead and go back to playing WoW and AoC cuz subscription based MMOs are always better that F2P

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  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by Z3R01
    Nope, I didn't Ignore your post just quoted the one thing you said that stood out.


    Oh can you please link me any Info saying the devs will continue to add, dungeons, new skills, armor/weapons and quests to the game? seriously I think my post is valid.
    Maybe its just the F2p players mentality, they don't mind Devs giving them no content as long as they could play for free.
    Anyway I enjoy guild wars its a fun little game but if the devs only plan on doing BS events and balancing I will just stop playing cause I want more quests, dungeons and new skills to look forward to.
     

    Go read information about Guild Wars 2 and you'll see them say that they plan on fully supporting the game. They specifically stated there are no planned campaigns or expansions but the game will still be updated. I cba at the moment to link it considering it's readily avai



    Also, to be honest...if you stop playing it will do absolutely no harm to ANet, considering when you are playing they are paying for the bandwidth.

     

  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426
    Originally posted by illyana



    Go ahead and go back to playing WoW and AoC cuz subscription based MMOs are always better that F2P

    Hmmm Haven't played WoW in a long time and never tried AoC so wtf are you talking about?

    My concerns with GW are valid, I enjoy the game and don't want the devs to stop creating content for it.

    Can you not read? did I say a game was better than GW? Right now I play Three MMOs and GW is one of them I would hate it if GW was devoid of any future content.

    Anyway just cause you havent finished all the content doesn't mean other people havent.

    Should we all twiddle our thumbs since you didnt finish every dungeon/quest/difficulty ?

    People play mmos at different speeds and I would like more stuff to do not just skill tweaks and events.

     

    Edit: oh and news flash P2P are better then F2p guilds wars isn't F2p I've spent over 400 bucks in the last two years on every GW version and expansion for me and my family.  might as well just call WoW F2p also.

     

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  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426
    Originally posted by Lydon


    Also, to be honest...if you stop playing it will do absolutely no harm to ANet, considering when you are playing they are paying for the bandwidth.
     

     

    I'm sorry but I am no longer a child, When I stop playing a game its not to "harm" a game company.

    I'm a fan of the game but I refuse to play a game thats not going to progress development wise.

    Its upsetting that Anet will no longer create campaigns for GW1 and that decision alone will sway me away from purchasing any ANet products from now on.

    It makes no sense to cut development of a product that's popular and profitable, If they kept a small team on GW1 to develop campaigns people would play it for a very long time since GW is an excellent game.

     

     

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  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by Z3R01 
    Edit: oh and news flash P2P are better then F2p guilds wars isn't F2p I've spent over 400 bucks in the last two years on every GW version and expansion for me and my family.  might as well just call WoW F2p also.
     

    Guild Wars is free-to-play. No one is saying you don't pay for the box but you in no way pay per month to play the game. How much would WoW have set you back if you bought it for your entire family and subscribed, by the way?

  • LydonLydon Member UncommonPosts: 2,938
    Originally posted by Z3R01

    Originally posted by Lydon


    Also, to be honest...if you stop playing it will do absolutely no harm to ANet, considering when you are playing they are paying for the bandwidth.
     

     

    I'm sorry but I am no longer a child, When I stop playing a game its not to "harm" a game company.

    I'm a fan of the game but I refuse to play a game thats not going to progress development wise.

    Its upsetting that Anet will no longer create campaigns for GW1 and that decision alone will sway me away from purchasing any ANet products from now on.

    It makes no sense to cut development of a product that's popular and profitable, If they kept a small team on GW1 to develop campaigns people would play it for a very long time since GW is an excellent game.

     

     

    Then you need to learn how to word your posts because you're coming off as if you stopping playing will "hurt" them.



    To be quite honest, Guild Wars will most likely not be profitable once Guild Wars 2 is released simply because people will be gunning for the newer game, should it be better than the original. Take a game like Everquest - it's now profitable because people have to pay subscriptions. I doubt relying on box sales alone to support a development team as well as running costs would be a good decision. They know their financial situation much better than any of us do and have come to a decision regarding to what their best plan of action is, so I don't see why there needs to be any arguing in the first place.

  • Z3R01Z3R01 Member UncommonPosts: 2,426
    Originally posted by Lydon

    Originally posted by Z3R01

    Originally posted by Lydon


    Also, to be honest...if you stop playing it will do absolutely no harm to ANet, considering when you are playing they are paying for the bandwidth.
     

     

    I'm sorry but I am no longer a child, When I stop playing a game its not to "harm" a game company.

    I'm a fan of the game but I refuse to play a game thats not going to progress development wise.

    Its upsetting that Anet will no longer create campaigns for GW1 and that decision alone will sway me away from purchasing any ANet products from now on.

    It makes no sense to cut development of a product that's popular and profitable, If they kept a small team on GW1 to develop campaigns people would play it for a very long time since GW is an excellent game.

     

     

    Then you need to learn how to word your posts because you're coming off as if you stopping playing will "hurt" them.



    To be quite honest, Guild Wars will most likely not be profitable once Guild Wars 2 is released simply because people will be gunning for the newer game, should it be better than the original. Take a game like Everquest - it's now profitable because people have to pay subscriptions. I doubt relying on box sales alone to support a development team as well as running costs would be a good decision. They know their financial situation much better than any of us do and have come to a decision regarding to what their best plan of action is, so I don't see why there needs to be any arguing in the first place.

    Learn how to word my posts?

    "Anyway I enjoy guild wars its a fun little game but if the devs only plan on doing BS events and balancing I will just stop playing cause I want more quests, dungeons and new skills to look forward to."

    this was my post.

    which basically says that I will stop playing due to wanting more content in the future.

    How is this taken as me wanting to harm a company? how do you harm a company with no monthly payment option if you bought the game already?

     

    I'm not like the majority of these nimrods on this forum that try to threaten companies with subscription cancelations. I'm just a fan that wishes the game would continue to grow instead of being pushed aside for the sequal.

     

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  • SuplyndmndSuplyndmnd Member Posts: 553

    Um, this game is over 3 years old and still has a huge fan base.  Even with no new content coming i'd say this game has years left on it just because new people to the game will have so much more to uncover.  So i'd say at minimum this game has 3 more years and after 6 years. Who cares if the game is going to start to die then? Seriously.

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  • WRyanWRyan Member Posts: 266

    I'm sorry to be a little antisympathetic to your problem, but this topic is about as dumb as it can get.  Let me get this straight:

    NCSoft has proposed that they will no longer support Guild Wars 1, which is a free to play Cooperative/Competitive Online Roleplaying game, by not developing anymore expansion packs--  But, they vow as long as the game's playerbase can sustain itself, they will continue to provide it as playable content... for free?

    Excuse me, but you're complaining about this?  You are actually asking how can they have the audacity to do this?

    GuildWars was not, is not, never has been, and never will be an MMO.  No one has ever officially claimed it to be one - ever.  No one ever hinted at it being one - ever.  Guild Wars is about the same thing as Call of Duty, Counter Strike, Unreal Tournament... Once these games were replaced with the next installment in the franchise, the devs ditched support on development for the precursor.

    How can you whine about this?  How can you even conceive to make a big deal out of this?  Again, I'm sorry... but this needed to be said.

  • Squal'ZellSqual'Zell Member Posts: 1,803
    Originally posted by WRyan


    I'm sorry to be a little antisympathetic to your problem, but this topic is about as dumb as it can get.  Let me get this straight:
    NCSoft has proposed that they will no longer support Guild Wars 1, which is a free to play Cooperative/Competitive Online Roleplaying game, by not developing anymore expansion packs--  But, they vow as long as the game's playerbase can sustain itself, they will continue to provide it as playable content... for free?
    Excuse me, but you're complaining about this?  You are actually asking how can they have the audacity to do this?
    GuildWars was not, is not, never has been, and never will be an MMO.  No one has ever officially claimed it to be one - ever.  No one ever hinted at it being one - ever.  Guild Wars is about the same thing as Call of Duty, Counter Strike, Unreal Tournament... Once these games were replaced with the next installment in the franchise, the devs ditched support on development for the precursor.
    How can you whine about this?  How can you even conceive to make a big deal out of this?  Again, I'm sorry... but this needed to be said.

     

    actually people have hinted that it could be an MMO (not in the traditional way of seing it)

    and no GW is not the same as CoD CS UT, since the servers are not available to us to host. anet are the ones hosting it, if they do not then our boxes become paperweights.

    people are not complaining that they will not get updates and new content, they just dont want their 3 campains + expansion to become just another decoration in the bookshelf. in CS ot CoD you can host servers out of your computer (or xbox or ps3)so for years to come you can play it. in GW you can't. if Anet decides to shut down GW1, thats it. hell, CoD CS and UT have single player modes! GW does not.

    so basically it will be like B-net with DIablo 2 (unless im completely mistaken) you can still play diablo 2, there are just not any more content added to it.

     

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  • illyanaillyana Member UncommonPosts: 614

    i really doubt that ANET or NCSoft will shut down GW1 even years after GW2 is released
    Maybe they will trim down servers, ie combine American & European servers, to save on costs, but as they claim, they have kept current operational costs at a minimum
    I believe people will go back and forth between 1 and 2 for GW1 titles, if the rewards for HOM are worth en0ugh to be sought after
    And take note, NC West is headed mostly by ANET big shots, i doubt that they will close the doors of the game that made them well known

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