WoW new expansion: enough is enough

pbmark50 · September 2008

Originally posted by Antaran

Originally posted by whisperwynd

To many damn bridges to walk over....trolls, trolls everywhere, in the dark, messed up hair. Lotro fanbois are abound, spitting venom, stomping the ground.
Oh troll, please go away, and darken my path no more...
Your hate is akin to a child of four.

I read the OP and agree with it to a certain degree. I tried the WoW trial and was immediately greeted with abusive chat logs, the same style gameplay as in the majority of MMORPG's these days and ZERO immersion (immersion appeals to each person individually as everyone has their own tastes though).

@Whisperwynd : Lotro fanbois are abound, spitting venom, stomping the ground.?? don't you realise or even know that a large number of WoW Fanbois were doing the same thing for the SWG forums years ago? possibly still do today as i gave up on it when the NGE hit.. They also spout it in the forums for EVERY other MMORPG coming out.. "This game is Sh*t compared to WoW" etc etc etc over and over i see the same things. so before you acuse the LotRo community as being trolls check the history of the community that belongs to the game YOU play.. and before you class me as a LotRo fanboi i'll inform you that i quit after a year of playing.. I'm a fanboi of no MMORPG and never will be. i and many others play for fun and gameplay, something which many MMORPG developers don't take into consideration. I'd also ask you this question.. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ AND UNDERSTOOD THE STATEMENT UNDER YOUR AVATAR?

From what i hear this "new" expansion is just a rehash of certain game features and nothign truelly new added to the game which puts in the catagory for a FREE CONTENT UPDATE not a payed expansion in my eyes.

Theres NO WAY you can compare LOTRO to WAR

whisperwynd · September 2008

Originally posted by Antaran

Originally posted by whisperwynd

To many damn bridges to walk over....trolls, trolls everywhere, in the dark, messed up hair. Lotro fanbois are abound, spitting venom, stomping the ground.
Oh troll, please go away, and darken my path no more...
Your hate is akin to a child of four.

I read the OP and agree with it to a certain degree. I tried the WoW trial and was immediately greeted with abusive chat logs, the same style gameplay as in the majority of MMORPG's these days and ZERO immersion (immersion appeals to each person individually as everyone has their own tastes though).

@Whisperwynd : Lotro fanbois are abound, spitting venom, stomping the ground.?? don't you realise or even know that a large number of WoW Fanbois were doing the same thing for the SWG forums years ago? possibly still do today as i gave up on it when the NGE hit.. They also spout it in the forums for EVERY other MMORPG coming out.. "This game is Sh*t compared to WoW" etc etc etc over and over i see the same things. so before you acuse the LotRo community as being trolls check the history of the community that belongs to the game YOU play.. and before you class me as a LotRo fanboi i'll inform you that i quit after a year of playing.. I'm a fanboi of no MMORPG and never will be. i and many others play for fun and gameplay, something which many MMORPG developers don't take into consideration. I'd also ask you this question.. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ AND UNDERSTOOD THE STATEMENT UNDER YOUR AVATAR?

From what i hear this "new" expansion is just a rehash of certain game features and nothign truelly new added to the game which puts in the catagory for a FREE CONTENT UPDATE not a payed expansion in my eyes.

I read the post, and fully understand, and follow what's under my avatar...and when the time comes when a discussion can be UNBIASED and CONSTRUCTIVE, I will respond in kind. Opinions are like farts, we all got 'em and they all smell differently, but when you look at the name of the poster, the message he leaves, the date of joining, and his record-breaking numbers of posts all saying the same...then no, I pay little attention to the words.

A for effort though

Antaran · September 2008

Originally posted by whisperwynd

Originally posted by Antaran

Originally posted by whisperwynd

To many damn bridges to walk over....trolls, trolls everywhere, in the dark, messed up hair. Lotro fanbois are abound, spitting venom, stomping the ground.
Oh troll, please go away, and darken my path no more...
Your hate is akin to a child of four.

I read the OP and agree with it to a certain degree. I tried the WoW trial and was immediately greeted with abusive chat logs, the same style gameplay as in the majority of MMORPG's these days and ZERO immersion (immersion appeals to each person individually as everyone has their own tastes though).

@Whisperwynd : Lotro fanbois are abound, spitting venom, stomping the ground.?? don't you realise or even know that a large number of WoW Fanbois were doing the same thing for the SWG forums years ago? possibly still do today as i gave up on it when the NGE hit.. They also spout it in the forums for EVERY other MMORPG coming out.. "This game is Sh*t compared to WoW" etc etc etc over and over i see the same things. so before you acuse the LotRo community as being trolls check the history of the community that belongs to the game YOU play.. and before you class me as a LotRo fanboi i'll inform you that i quit after a year of playing.. I'm a fanboi of no MMORPG and never will be. i and many others play for fun and gameplay, something which many MMORPG developers don't take into consideration. I'd also ask you this question.. HAVE YOU ACTUALLY READ AND UNDERSTOOD THE STATEMENT UNDER YOUR AVATAR?

From what i hear this "new" expansion is just a rehash of certain game features and nothign truelly new added to the game which puts in the catagory for a FREE CONTENT UPDATE not a payed expansion in my eyes.

I read the post, and fully understand, and follow what's under my avatar...and when the time comes when a discussion can be UNBIASED and CONSTRUCTIVE, I will respond in kind. Opinions are like farts, we all got 'em and they all smell differently, but when you look at the name of the poster, the message he leaves, the date of joining, and his record-breaking numbers of posts all saying the same...then no, I pay little attention to the words.

A for effort though

Whats date of joining or number of posts got to do with things? everyone started at some point.. don't take this as a flame as i hate flames, but... are you trying to say that only long time members of this website have the right and privilage of people listening/reading their posts? take a look at what others have said in this thread m8, more than one have stated they didn't even read all the OP so in my eyes they don't get a say no matter how long they've been a member of the site.. using intelligence and reading something before posting matters, not how long you've been a member.

@PBmark50 : Theres NO WAY you can compare LOTRO to WAR.... Who compared LotRo to War here?? WoW was mentioned not War.. *refers to my above point about reading*

whisperwynd · September 2008

I haven't compared anything to anything. I don't look at a poster's join date PER-SE, but when combined with said posts (of which I read all of the OP's), the actual name of the poster, I get a suspicion of a troll.

If I happen to be wrong, well, it was still a fun rhyme.

Antaran · September 2008

Originally posted by whisperwynd

I haven't compared anything to anything. I don't look at a poster's join date PER-SE, but when combined with said posts (of which I read all of the OP's), the actual name of the poster, I get a suspicion of a troll.
If I happen to be wrong, well, it was still a fun rhyme.

the comparison parts of my last post was aimed at pbmark50 m8. lol

whisperwynd · September 2008

Originally posted by Antaran

Originally posted by whisperwynd

I haven't compared anything to anything. I don't look at a poster's join date PER-SE, but when combined with said posts (of which I read all of the OP's), the actual name of the poster, I get a suspicion of a troll.
If I happen to be wrong, well, it was still a fun rhyme.

the comparison parts of my last post was aimed at pbmark50 m8. lol

I know. No hurt, no foul.

slask777 · September 2008

Originally posted by Antaran

Whats date of joining or number of posts got to do with things? everyone started at some point..
etc...

Date of joining and number of post got alot to do with it. Hard to take someone serious when they start all hard and mighty with their number 1 post. The community need to know them a bit before taking then serious. Its the same on any forum you join. Get some 'streetcred' then come talk, so to speak. Another reason is that some people join, make a troll thread full of shit, then cancel their account.

Ontopic though, I kinda agree. WoW is trapped in their own success. They can't do crazy new stuff cause they got so many subscribers. If they change some of it a little drastically, they risk a shitload of people leaving the game. So they are forced to make more of the same. Face it, WotLK is TBC with some pvp thrown in for good measure. Only change mostly. 1 new class. Woop de doo. Don't mean squat. It will sell like the bloody bible though, and be a success financially. It's unavoidable. On another note, I too found those oversized weapons and armor look kinda ridicoulus when I still played. The higher the tier, the more idiotic it became Reminds me of jrpgs, with their girly men and oversized swords(compensating maybe??)

pbmark50 · September 2008

Well, so you think Im just some sort of fool? How dare you....

kujii · September 2008

It's funny people complaining about grammer on a WoW post, and then you get into the game and realize half of them must have a 5th grade education. The other half are in 5th grade, and thinking about dropping out so they can WoW all day.

ghogiel · September 2008

Originally posted by kujii
It's funny people complaining about grammer

grammer ?

SgtFrog · September 2008

so your whole topic is about being angry that blezzird is makeing allot of money?

and you want them to make less money?

MyPreciousss · September 2008

Eh, about my "hate akin to a child of four", what class will you get in this wonderful expansion: Death Knight...

Oh my i could imagine irl my little cousin running around with his wooden sword "Beware I am a powerful knight, i bring death, i'm the Death Knight"

I wonder where Bliz stole (err sorry "polished") that one from ; fanboyz not even twitching at the ludicrous name?

Don't worry, you'll get your hordes of Death Knights jumping around and dancing half naked on mailboxes and auction houses... as you'll get your brats and retards misusing and spoiling everything they can, with GMs closing their eyes as long as mum and dad are paying the bill and shareholders can afford their 5th sportscar.

The same shit over and over again, past, present and future, sounds like WoW and... eternal damnation

Battleskar · September 2008

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

So we have this overhyped company vomiting long ago a pixellated mess that would feel retarded even on nickelodeon, mock of pvp, daily chore BGs to get more shiny pink stuff, badly repetitive kill-x-rabbits quests, reputation grind till year 2023. Ok, that's pathetic but we all know that already. What's really troubling me now is the desperate way they try to get any buck they can, this secure account thing could be free i'm sure, the paid pve to pvp server transfer 4 days before Warhammer launch (after they repeated so many years that wouldn't feel right to do so, talk about integrity and trust), anyway i won't list everything you have to pay for their services, that would be flooding I think if you paid their game and first expansion and so many subscription months they should grant you at least a free transfer, a free name changing, etc, by account, even reduce a bit your subscription fee if you were a faithful client for a long time. Blizzard is rolling for greed everytime.

Need i mention the idle bot players in Alterac for months without Blizzard doing anything, invisible game masters or that were never hired, never stopped gold spamming for months on /2., rude and offensive general chats, persistent off-topic channel use, lack of knowledge of the game by GMs? I had this bad experience of a guy hacking our guild chat and speaking through our nicks and throwing insults, so i complained to a GM and received an automated answer 3 hours later telling me general bullshit and not recognizing/knowing that this hack exists. I asked like 4 things in my WoW playtime, everytime i received some hours later automated answers full of bullshit or refering me to the forums. So you get those kids chatting for ages in SMS style about rape and porno stuff in Stormwind and no GM ever is here telling them to stop. Where the heck are all the bucks going, can't you hire real decent game masters? Special award for RP rules that were never enforced on dedicated servers (who could ever RP in this poor WoW universe anyway), with lots of retards spoiling in any way the basics of RP you would try to create.
What's troubling me too is their sudden decision of pve-pvp transfer like 4 days before Warhammer launch. That's pathetic. Aren't they supposed to feel confident about their so-called superior quality ? Then announcing their expansion far ahead of schedule, a thing they never did before, to stop people switching to competion, Warhammer isn't the only contender, btw, you have Lotro expansion, Aion, etc coming out too. Are they finally feeling the heat or just harassed by shareholders who need more bucks to buy villas on sunny beaches and don't accept the loss of 1 million players? The sad thing is not they have to lower their high butts to some low marketing decisions, which could be ultimately ok in a sense of competition, the sad thing is they aren't innovative in the least and are using their popularity and bulk mass of players to keep the media attention and strangling the innovative competition. Such behaviour is bad for MMORPGs.
So let's check their expansion trailer, basicaly an old frozen dude is awakening, and wielding his 10 meter sword (it's the way Blizzard think things are cool, if they are gigantic and overshiny...) and retarded cohorts of dead shouting at him. So exciting... perfect trailer to get an adequate box mark and keep selling to the masses. No Blizzard you won't have me returned to your old crap once again just to grind through 10 levels full of ugly landscapes and retarded fanboys (they must have inspire the army of dead you can see in the trailer, dead brain, happy to submit to the overdog, feeling strong in masses and following each other indiscrimately), i could enjoy WoW before your first expansion that already ruined the core game, but your greed, your lack of content (why even bother to treat well your customers, give them more things and new (free? j/k) content, if they're stuck with subscription and won't leave out of inertia and expecting miracles, nice way of thinking), your lies and pathetic justifications ("we never said we wouldn't do that, we said we would do what's best for our customers and adapt to new needs" zomg ), your stealing off ideas from other companies like Deeds and dynamic BG (since Wow "polishing" is synonym of stealing i guess).
And to YOU Wow fanboy who'll complain at this post, not try other innovative games and keep herding to any Bliz product (they make products not games, they have customers, not players, players don't know about that themselves ) till the end of time, because "a lot of people do the same, because i can be as retarded as i want and no one will ever tell me to shut up, because i've been there for 4 years so i must be there another decade and need only 786 raids more to get my overshiny 3000 resilience pink string and jump around with it in Stormwind, beause my step-grand-aunt is still there", i have only one quote :
Be silent. Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I did not pass through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm.

Huge Wall of text that CRITS YOU for 17777995999 damage and you die!!!

whisperwynd · September 2008

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

Eh, about my "hate akin to a child of four", what class will you get in this wonderful expansion: Death Knight...
Oh my i could imagine irl my little cousin running around with his wooden sword "Beware I am a powerful knight, i bring death, i'm the Death Knight"
I wonder where Bliz stole (err sorry "polished") that one from ; fanboyz not even twitching at the ludicrous name?
Don't worry, you'll get your hordes of Death Knights jumping around and dancing half naked on mailboxes and auction houses... as you'll get your brats and retards misusing and spoiling everything they can, with GMs closing their eyes as long as mum and dad are paying the bill and shareholders can afford their 5th sportscar.
The same shit over and over again, past, present and future, sounds like WoW and... eternal damnation

Ouch, did we sit on a tack too soundly?

My whole point to my assinine replies was to try to bring some levity into the mix...alas I can see you can lead a jackass to the water, but you can't make him think is a dead-on adage here. Please, not aiming it at anyone, not even you OP..just a way of saying 'I'm damned if I do, and I'm damned if I don't'

But I'll still enjoy the circus going on...

natausch · September 2008

WoW - 4 years - 2 expanions

Everquest - First 4 years - 8 expansions

Tell me what time the special ed bus picks you up in the morning so I can avoid those streets.

Yes, WoW is the most evil thing to ever happen to MMORPGS (in your mind) and yes they're incredibly greedy for charging below what many failed MMOs are demanding for their broken products(AoC, awesome example)

Sorry the gameplay isn't up to your standard, perhaps Darkfall will present the massive level of suck you desire in a game, until then, build a social network and do 20 raids in order to attain the gear you need to be effective.

Nevermind the 150+ raids I did in EQ to attain tier 2 armor and the 100+ hours it took me to get my epic weapon.

Sorry that the model of WoW only applies to 95% of the MMO community, I imagine that the remainder will enjoy games with outdated graphics and overwhelming system requirements.

Love, lots of it in the hope that you can find a solution to your unreasonable hatred.

vroz420 · September 2008

Talk about an ignorant and arrogant response, as if WoW is the only MMORPG out there people are playing. Fact: millions of people subscribe to OTHER games..omg!

WoW has more grinding then depth or real content. And its pvp is all gear and no skills its pathetic.

It certainly isnt for everyone so dont act like it is.

max001 · September 2008

*yawnn......

/sleep

Markn12 · September 2008

Originally posted by natausch

WoW - 4 years - 2 expanions
Everquest - First 4 years - 8 expansions
Tell me what time the special ed bus picks you up in the morning so I can avoid those streets.
Yes, WoW is the most evil thing to ever happen to MMORPGS (in your mind) and yes they're incredibly greedy for charging below what many failed MMOs are demanding for their broken products(AoC, awesome example)
Sorry the gameplay isn't up to your standard, perhaps Darkfall will present the massive level of suck you desire in a game, until then, build a social network and do 20 raids in order to attain the gear you need to be effective.
Nevermind the 150+ raids I did in EQ to attain tier 2 armor and the 100+ hours it took me to get my epic weapon.
Sorry that the model of WoW only applies to 95% of the MMO community, I imagine that the remainder will enjoy games with outdated graphics and overwhelming system requirements.
Love, lots of it in the hope that you can find a solution to your unreasonable hatred.

This is just as ignorant of a post of misinformation as most WOW luvers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everquest#Expansions

History.

Release date March 16, 1999. The following expansions were released from March 99 to March 02 ( thats 4 years guys) 99, 00, 01, 02.

The Ruins of Kunark (March 2000)

The Scars of Velious (December 2000)

The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)

With the release of The Planes of Power (October 2002) about 7 months after.

SO in the first 4 years EQ released 3 expansions for EQ not 8. Get facts straight guys and gals.

Note. From October 2002 to November 2007 SOE released 11 expansions. Also note EQ was run by Verant from 1999 to 2001 in that time frame they only released 2 expansions while SOE released Luclin in late 01 after taking over complete control of the game.

mrdoublerr · September 2008

OP, are you EMO ?

so much hate

anyway, get well soon, I hope they find a cure for your disease.

Scalebane · September 2008

So the OP is mad at a company making money....then bitches about people not wanting to try other games, last time i checked i decided things for myself i don't owe any game companies anything. Blizzard has made quality games for as long as i can remember so i keep buying games from them and havn't been let down yet. I'm sure you'll change minds with your post -rolls eyes-, if you don't like what they are doing, go find another company to buy games from, you'll find they are in it for the cash too.

Anyways, these posts are typical, these people are so addicted to the game that when they final decide to stop playing they need to hurt blizzard to they can break free, kinda pathetic really.

Also sounds like the OP is a cheapskate, one of those everything should be free people. if your so cheap and need everything free, why not go and play some of them free games, i'm sure you will love them.

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