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Worst combat system!

So i have been playing alot of AOC, decided to pick this game up.  Created a dwarf rune priest and all i gota say is this combat system is WEAK. 

My rune priest slowly swings his arms around as he cast spells and then I just repeat the system again by clicking the same button.  This combat system feels so outdated!! Even the combat music sucks.

 

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  • SpeedMannSpeedMann Member UncommonPosts: 333

    So, You repeat button presses in AoC too. I played in beta and thats all i could handle.

     

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  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951

    Gwahahahahhahahaha!

    Nice laugh post :D

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  • elondorelondor Member Posts: 171

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    the combat in war is boring, the casting in war is boring.. 2008 going on 2009 and the spells in ultima online look better? give me a break. the spells in VANGUARD look better, and they are REALLY bad.

    people are just looking for something new and good, and war is the only thing new so they're going to protect it like a little baby lol. and there are A LOT of ugly babies out there.

  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by SpeedMann


    So, You repeat button presses in AoC too. I played in beta and thats all i could handle.
     



     

    Exactly, you played the beta.

    I have played and purchased both.

    Yes you press buttons in AOC, of course you press buttons to cast spells, there is no voice control in these games.  In WAR everything is SLOW, combat is slow, spellcasting is slow, leveling is slow.  It feels like it's going back to the roots of EQ1.

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  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by 4Renziks


    Nothing to see here....move along move along.
     



     

    Yes nothing to see here, maybe they should have a filter that only fanboys post's can be seen. 

    The point is, people should know how the combat is. 

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  • AnteNachtAnteNacht Member Posts: 17

    if leveling is so slow, then why are there so many 40's already?

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  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by AnteNacht


    if leveling is so slow, then why are there so many 40's already?



     

    uhh because they play 24/7 ?

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  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by elondor


    don't let the fanboi's deter you from making a post about how boring the combat is.  they just know it's true and like a retarded school boy, their only reply is no, YOU are, no YOU are, no YOU are lol.
     
    the combat in war is boring, the casting in war is boring.. 2008 going on 2009 and the spells in ultima online look better? give me a break.  the spells in VANGUARD look better, and they are REALLY bad. 
     
    people are just looking for something new and good, and war is the only thing new so they're going to protect it like a little baby lol. and there are A LOT of ugly babies out there.

     

    You just failed so hard you choked on your own words!

    There have been no fanboy posts so far, only the rightful responces towards a laughable troll post :D

    over 10 million people play WoW, they're fine with the combat as is. Why am I saying that? Because WAR is pretty much the CLASSIC MMORPG combat, the way it's always been.

    That the OP mentioned AoC is just even more laughable! And the way he expressed himself overall in a hateful, upset and angry way made me spill my drink over my shirt :D

    Oh, and you obviously don't like this game, maby you should get away from here? Or are you secretly in love with the game that you have to be here anyway? :D

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  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by elondor


    don't let the fanboi's deter you from making a post about how boring the combat is.  they just know it's true and like a retarded school boy, their only reply is no, YOU are, no YOU are, no YOU are lol.
     
    the combat in war is boring, the casting in war is boring.. 2008 going on 2009 and the spells in ultima online look better? give me a break.  the spells in VANGUARD look better, and they are REALLY bad. 
     
    people are just looking for something new and good, and war is the only thing new so they're going to protect it like a little baby lol. and there are A LOT of ugly babies out there.



     

    I think the problem is people dont play any other mmo's other then a few.  So they "think" these games are amazing and apparently every other game sucks.

    I could see people getting mad if I came on here saying the game blows.  I never did, I find the combat and game too slow which makes me dislike the game.

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  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by Clada

    Originally posted by 4Renziks


    Nothing to see here....move along move along.
     



     The point is, people should know how the combat is. 



     

    No doubt, but they worn't find it out by listening to you....................



     

    Oh yes, please enlighten us with your wisdom.

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  • BorkotronBorkotron Member Posts: 282

    Someone is angry. Awww finally realizing that the monitor doesn't kiss back? Seriously, WAR's combat system is the same old, same old in terms of having it's origins in PnP RPGs....like...um....95% of the other MMOs out there and all the MUDDs, MUSHes & MMOs that preceded it. Sure, you could complain for something new, but, seriously, how is this any worse than any other MMO out there on the market?

  • severiusseverius Member UncommonPosts: 1,516
    Originally posted by Clada

    Originally posted by 4Renziks


    Nothing to see here....move along move along.
     



     

    Yes nothing to see here, maybe they should have a filter that only fanboys post's can be seen. 

    The point is, people should know how the combat is. 



     

    Except, of course, that you are avoiding the fact that you are trying to make yourself sound like some sort of an authority.  It is your opinion that the combat is lacking, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Of course the evidence that you put forth as your experience with war, playing a runepriest, is severely lacking and therefore causes the validity of your statement to fail utterly and completely.  Been past level 5 yet, how about past 20?  Tried all the classes in the game which, in turn, would give you a good feel of how the combat in war is, in general, rather than in a very limited test case?  Of course you may very well come back with some nonsensical response how you ahve tested ever character through every tier etc etc etc, but the fact of the matter is, if you had, you would have used something of quite a bit more substance than I played a runepriest and combat was slow.

  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by Borkotron


    Someone is angry. Awww finally realizing that the monitor doesn't kiss back? Seriously, WAR's combat system is the same old, same old in terms of having it's origins in PnP RPGs....like...um....95% of the other MMOs out there and all the MUDDs, MUSHes & MMOs that preceded it. Sure, you could complain for something new, but, seriously, how is this any worse than any other MMO out there on the market?



     

    Thank god gaming in general does not follow your view. 

    If you think this game has the same combat system you can find in 95% of mmo's your wrong.  Not every mmo is slow to crawl, not every mmo has a stringet one directional combat system, not every mmo has boring unispiring combat music.

     

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  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by Clada

    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Originally posted by Clada

    Originally posted by 4Renziks


    Nothing to see here....move along move along.
     



     The point is, people should know how the combat is. 



     

    No doubt, but they worn't find it out by listening to you....................



     

    Oh yes, please enlighten us with your wisdom.



     

    It's simple. What you like is probably not even close to what they might. So Instead of listening to the useless opinions of random people on forums they should play the game and find out themselves..



     

    Yes and everyone who LOVES the system should be able to post how "amazing!" it is with no issues, right?. 

    This is a fourm, a place to post opinions.

     

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  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by Clada



     

    Thank god gaming in general does not follow your view. 
    If you think this game has the same combat system you can find in 95% of mmo's your wrong.  Not every mmo is slow to crawl, not every mmo has a stringet one directional combat system, not every mmo has boring unispiring combat music.
     

     

    And he goes on about the combat music...?! Omg this is a thread I hope won't die anytime fast :D It's a blast!

    err, how about turning on some music of your own? That's what most does anyway! Nothing like listening to Led Zeppelin while bashing some heads!

    Oh ok, not ALL MMO's are slow, ofc, there's AoC! Hahahahahahaha :D

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  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by DuraheLL

    Originally posted by Clada



     

    Thank god gaming in general does not follow your view. 
    If you think this game has the same combat system you can find in 95% of mmo's your wrong.  Not every mmo is slow to crawl, not every mmo has a stringet one directional combat system, not every mmo has boring unispiring combat music.
     

     

    And he goes on about the combat music...?! Omg this is a thread I hope won't die anytime fast :D It's a blast!

    err, how about turning on some music of your own? That's what most does anyway! Nothing like listening to Led Zeppelin while bashing some heads!

    Oh ok, not ALL MMO's are slow, ofc, there's AoC! Hahahahahahaha :D



     

    Yeah, the music sucks so turn your own on - great fix!

    Your right, there is AOC and a bunch of other great mmo's that don't use your "standard" mmo formula.

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  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by Clada

     
    Your right, there is AOC and a bunch of other great mmo's that don't use your "standard" mmo formula.

     

    Even..... DARKFALL?

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  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by DuraheLL

    Originally posted by Clada

     
    Your right, there is AOC and a bunch of other great mmo's that don't use your "standard" mmo formula.

     

    Even..... DARKFALL?



     

    haha we will soon find out!

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  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499
    Originally posted by DuraheLL

    Originally posted by Clada



     

    Thank god gaming in general does not follow your view. 
    If you think this game has the same combat system you can find in 95% of mmo's your wrong.  Not every mmo is slow to crawl, not every mmo has a stringet one directional combat system, not every mmo has boring unispiring combat music.
     

     

    And he goes on about the combat music...?! Omg this is a thread I hope won't die anytime fast :D It's a blast!

    err, how about turning on some music of your own? That's what most does anyway! Nothing like listening to Led Zeppelin while bashing some heads!

    Oh ok, not ALL MMO's are slow, ofc, there's AoC! Hahahahahahaha :D

    I have not played WAR but bashing AoC is pointless. What I have found the last few days are players coming back to are Guild in AoC because WAR was not for them and yes alot have played from the start of EA but just found it  does not give them what they wanted from WAR. And yes the OP came off as a troll but alot of what he said is what some of the players coming back to AoC have said also.

  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by DeadJester


    I have not played WAR but bashing AoC is pointless

     

    Nonono, it's the whole

    "I really like bananas, but once I ate an orange and I hated it, so now I just eat bananas again" - thing that's so hilarious

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  • ThexReporterThexReporter Member UncommonPosts: 124
    Originally posted by Clada

    Originally posted by 4Renziks


    Nothing to see here....move along move along.
     



     

    Yes nothing to see here, maybe they should have a filter that only fanboys post's can be seen. 

    The point is, people should know how the combat is. 

     

    They should know how combat is.

    Its better than WoW and AoC.  

    Im glad we agree.

  • CladaClada Member Posts: 168
    Originally posted by ThexReporter

    Originally posted by Clada

    Originally posted by 4Renziks


    Nothing to see here....move along move along.
     



     

    Yes nothing to see here, maybe they should have a filter that only fanboys post's can be seen. 

    The point is, people should know how the combat is. 

     

    They should know how combat is.

    Its better than WoW and AoC.  

    Im glad we agree.



     

    If your going to say that, fine.

    Why is it better? At least back what you say up.

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  • chryseschryses Member UncommonPosts: 1,453

    Going to sit on the fence for this one because I like both games.

    AoC has a much better combat system with so many ways of playing the same character and really knowing your combos.  Besides the gore and much better graphics it wins hands down. 

    WAR has a simplified system so that anyone and everyone can jump in and start swinging their swords around.  I know it becomes more interesting with morale boosts etc.  However I think they went this route to attract casual gamers and maybe to reduce the lag on large scale battles.  Big advantage with WAR is that I can log in and within 2 minutes be in a scenario fighting away.  If AoC brought in a similar system and brought in a quick pvp scenario then it would seriously rock.

  • DeadJesterDeadJester Member Posts: 499
    Originally posted by DuraheLL

    Originally posted by DeadJester


    I have not played WAR but bashing AoC is pointless

     

    Nonono, it's the whole

    "I really like bananas, but once I ate an orange and I hated it, so now I just eat bananas again" - thing that's so hilarious



     

    Im not saying one is better then the other but yes there are foods I have tryed and dont like and there are foods I have tryed and have liked so what your point.

  • Fireside286Fireside286 Member Posts: 72
    Originally posted by DuraheLL

    Originally posted by elondor


    don't let the fanboi's deter you from making a post about how boring the combat is.  they just know it's true and like a retarded school boy, their only reply is no, YOU are, no YOU are, no YOU are lol.
     
    the combat in war is boring, the casting in war is boring.. 2008 going on 2009 and the spells in ultima online look better? give me a break.  the spells in VANGUARD look better, and they are REALLY bad. 
     
    people are just looking for something new and good, and war is the only thing new so they're going to protect it like a little baby lol. and there are A LOT of ugly babies out there.

     

    You just failed so hard you choked on your own words!

    There have been no fanboy posts so far, only the rightful responces towards a laughable troll post :D

    over 10 million people play WoW, they're fine with the combat as is. Why am I saying that? Because WAR is pretty much the CLASSIC MMORPG combat, the way it's always been.

    That the OP mentioned AoC is just even more laughable! And the way he expressed himself overall in a hateful, upset and angry way made me spill my drink over my shirt :D

    Oh, and you obviously don't like this game, maby you should get away from here? Or are you secretly in love with the game that you have to be here anyway? :D



     

    Wow there..I can say for sure not the way its always been....

    Asherons had the best combat system in any MMO it was actually twitched base and took real skill to pull it off..That games pvp made you or broke you, and it was all you...

    So please don't go saying its the way its always been.

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