If you refuse to join a good sized active guild and want to solo the game, then WAR is not for you. The whole point of this game is to join forces with other people and fight other large groups of people. Once we get rid of the people that don't understand how to play, the better the game will be.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR Playing: WAR Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
Thats why i like Mythics-goa's decision to skip official forums.
And as I continue to play the game, I become more irate about that decision. There needs to be, at the very least, server forums. As I anticipated, it has led to varying problems.
___________________ Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
I played into mid 20ies and feel so bored in WAR now. I cant even say 100% why.
you suffer from mmo itis. YOU ARE BORED WITH MMOS period! everyone was expecting some mega uber mmo to come out...ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. warhammer is not the mega uber mmo that you imagined up. we are sorry conan let you down, don't blame it on Mythic and call the game boring when you dont even know why it's "boring". the game is getting 5 stars and 9.0 ratings like crazy, i hope people are smart enough to check the professional reviews out there and not listen to post like these.
I want something fresh, new, a new genre of games. Well, I will still play Warhammer every few days but it's so boring to me now too. Just another cookie-cutter. I find myself playing Ryzom for the first time now. Why? Takes skill and is unique. Lot's of strategy and different types of gameplay. No little kids clicking to kill. The community is filled with people that want to help instead of immature players that act like dicks. It also has a shitload of pvp. Sounds like my type of game so we'll see.
Still waiting for a new genre of games. There are some in development so I'm only hoping and waiting.
you are comparing ryzom to war...ok... here is a video of ryzom...
how is this unique...skill...where? why are you even wasting your time posting in the WAR forum if you have no interest in the game?
like others i think i also got hit by the experience that an mmorpg is just a game
i actually see that as a positiove personal developement.
i played lineage2 hardcore for 4 years straight, oretty much the same as many others play wow
then i swiched to aoc, saw that it was a great game (for my taste of questing/immersion)
then left for war when aoc ran out of content for me and on november 28th ill probably buy spellborne, next year ill buy aion, after that....
i think that once you left your original overly addictive game and bonds to the community your head will become clear and you start to watch these mmos again as computer games and not as your style of living.
whats wrong with buying war and feeling a bit bored after you played it 100+ hours ?
the only thing thats wrong is that you do not feel bored if you play wow for 1000+ hours raiding the same boss for a different colored pair of gloves...
i think in the future we see more of multi-game guilds that are able to keep up their online friendship even thrue a multitude of games and with more games on the market we see a greater diversity and youll play game X when you feel like it and game Y when you think that suits your momentary tastes.
all these games will hopefully be driven upon content and immersion rather then on a (probably harmfull) addiction to grind level and gear
if your bored, visit my blog at: http://craylon.wordpress.com/ dealing with the look of mmos with the nvidia 3d vision glasses
Warhammer is a mass pvp game in an MMO 'package'. Everything about it focuses on mass or smaller scale player vs player. Think of it as Guild Wars in a persistent world with more 'traditional' RPG careers in it. It's not the sandbox MMO with vast character customisation etc. The pve concept is just something to 'fill in' the time between pvp battles.
When you accept it for what it is, you will have a blast, but you won't have a good time if you try to transform it into an Everquest-type-of-game because that's not what this game is about.
Been like 100 threads on these forums about this topic, all that seems to happen on here is stupid people complaining about a game they don't like, so why even bother to post about you thoughts, obviously people who are enjoying the game get fed up of reading the shit you keep writting.
Anyone who comes on here and defends people like the OP are even more sad for defending him.. he said his opinion, why? who gives a shit, should keep it to himself no one wants to know, most of the replys from the people saying 'i know how you feel' are just odd, do you take games that serious?
sigh thought these forums were for talking about the game not peoples whines and moans.
well for me is like instant fun log in join in scenario and have fun no pve no quests nothing to worry about until they dont force me to pve/quests will be fun for me
OP for depth and core i play eve maybe u should play more mmo's in same time don't eat only apples, eat oranges and apples
Yeah yeah I know, I hear already the "troll" calling trolls. Anyways. I am officially bored. I played into mid 20ies and feel so bored in WAR now. I cant even say 100% why. I stare at the launch button and think "maybe I play WAR now ... or maybe not". I think "hey maybe do some levels and quests?" but no. Maybe some RVR, fight a bit, die a bit, kill a bit, and then after 15-20 min I log off. I dunno, maybe the idea of Warhammer itself doesnt catch me, I cant say. It feels terribly 1-dimensional. I am sure its true to the Warhammer IP and the "technical" side is ok, but I find nothing in this game I really care for. Classes, races, quests, stories, landscapes... whatever, I cant make myself love any part of it. Yeah yeah, thats all subjective, but maybe a few other feel likewise? Sorry, I really dont want to pee at your favourite tree, but somehow WAR feels like a kiddie game. Easy to enter, quick rewards, zero depth. *shrug*
I am so glad there are many players who share my own opinion.
to the OP: I understand completely where your comming from.. i actually got that problem starting with WoW. I coudnt log on my character, or when i did I really felt like I was wasting my time. I think one of the problems is that communities/guilds arent what they used to be for MMO's anymore. I suggest trying to find a casual/family/friends guild or a guild that aspires to your type of play style. That always helps me when I find people that enjoy the same things I do. But yes I have had the same issue with Warhammer, only my problem was more of what to play because I enjoy so many of their classes. However I understand that game can get a little boring every now and then...which is fine because in the long run this game has the end game ive been waiting for. If your still bored, maybe you should play less often...i mean the game takes a while to play from 1-40 (if you have a life).
Guilds and buddies help, true... but even MIRC gets fun with a bunch of friends, what's the advantage of playing war?
What's missing is the sting of dying (although many other things are missing from WAR, such as a world, but I won't go into that). Games with stinging death penalty Surviving = relief, even a rush Dying = sucks Games without a stinging death penalty Surviving = no big deal Dying = no big deal
While these newer MMO's took the "it sucks" feeling out of dying, they also took the rush or joy out of surviving, and so we are left with bland cookie-cutter gaming experiences.
well there are more ppl willing to pay money for the games without the "stinging death penalty".
I have no intention of ever playing a game again that punishes me harshly for dying. For me the days of losing a precious item,
having to find someone to put implants back in for me,
having an item broken beyond repair,
taking me out of the action for 15min,
making me walk back to collect my stuff miles away only to die again,
having my body camped by retards 3x my lvl
having my ship destroyed and losing hours of work lost
being punished for a server crash or ISP discon
are well and truly over. MMO'ing is a form of entertainment to me, I do not need the threat of punishment and feeling like shite as a result in order to enjoy a game, any more than I need the threat of my TV blowing up everytime I watch a program.
And the OP is another person suffering MMORPG burnout. Nothing in this genre will satisfy him.
You fail to consider that there can be" punishment" and stinging feel of death in ways that aren't related to the down-sides of it you described so thoroughly.
And it's also wrong to blame the WHOLE GENRE, as if all mmo's are bound to be similar to WAR.
like others i think i also got hit by the experience that an mmorpg is just a game
i actually see that as a positiove personal developement. i played lineage2 hardcore for 4 years straight, oretty much the same as many others play wow then i swiched to aoc, saw that it was a great game (for my taste of questing/immersion)
then left for war when aoc ran out of content for me and on november 28th ill probably buy spellborne, next year ill buy aion, after that....
i think that once you left your original overly addictive game and bonds to the community your head will become clear and you start to watch these mmos again as computer games and not as your style of living. whats wrong with buying war and feeling a bit bored after you played it 100+ hours ? the only thing thats wrong is that you do not feel bored if you play wow for 1000+ hours raiding the same boss for a different colored pair of gloves...
i think in the future we see more of multi-game guilds that are able to keep up their online friendship even thrue a multitude of games and with more games on the market we see a greater diversity and youll play game X when you feel like it and game Y when you think that suits your momentary tastes.
all these games will hopefully be driven upon content and immersion rather then on a (probably harmfull) addiction to grind level and gear
Yeah yeah I know, I hear already the "troll" calling trolls. Anyways. I am officially bored. I played into mid 20ies and feel so bored in WAR now. I cant even say 100% why. I stare at the launch button and think "maybe I play WAR now ... or maybe not". I think "hey maybe do some levels and quests?" but no. Maybe some RVR, fight a bit, die a bit, kill a bit, and then after 15-20 min I log off. I dunno, maybe the idea of Warhammer itself doesnt catch me, I cant say. It feels terribly 1-dimensional. I am sure its true to the Warhammer IP and the "technical" side is ok, but I find nothing in this game I really care for. Classes, races, quests, stories, landscapes... whatever, I cant make myself love any part of it. Yeah yeah, thats all subjective, but maybe a few other feel likewise? Sorry, I really dont want to pee at your favourite tree, but somehow WAR feels like a kiddie game. Easy to enter, quick rewards, zero depth. *shrug*
So go play EVE. That is a great game and exactly the opposite of WAR. Don't see why folks are always complaining that whatever game is to simple, not sandbox, no depth, meaningless PvP, and on and on and on. When there is EVE, which has all those things from the git-go. >Shrugs<
like others i think i also got hit by the experience that an mmorpg is just a game
i actually see that as a positiove personal developement. i played lineage2 hardcore for 4 years straight, oretty much the same as many others play wow then i swiched to aoc, saw that it was a great game (for my taste of questing/immersion)
then left for war when aoc ran out of content for me and on november 28th ill probably buy spellborne, next year ill buy aion, after that....
i think that once you left your original overly addictive game and bonds to the community your head will become clear and you start to watch these mmos again as computer games and not as your style of living. whats wrong with buying war and feeling a bit bored after you played it 100+ hours ? the only thing thats wrong is that you do not feel bored if you play wow for 1000+ hours raiding the same boss for a different colored pair of gloves...
i think in the future we see more of multi-game guilds that are able to keep up their online friendship even thrue a multitude of games and with more games on the market we see a greater diversity and youll play game X when you feel like it and game Y when you think that suits your momentary tastes.
all these games will hopefully be driven upon content and immersion rather then on a (probably harmfull) addiction to grind level and gear
Great write up.
That is the most intelligent post I've seen on the MMORPG.com boards in a long long time.
I couldn't agree more. People need to view these games objectively for what they are; A Form of Entertainment meant specifically to enjoy in your free time.
They are NOT jobs, nor should they be viewed as such unless you are a developer.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
like others i think i also got hit by the experience that an mmorpg is just a game
i actually see that as a positiove personal developement. i played lineage2 hardcore for 4 years straight, oretty much the same as many others play wow then i swiched to aoc, saw that it was a great game (for my taste of questing/immersion)
then left for war when aoc ran out of content for me and on november 28th ill probably buy spellborne, next year ill buy aion, after that....
i think that once you left your original overly addictive game and bonds to the community your head will become clear and you start to watch these mmos again as computer games and not as your style of living. whats wrong with buying war and feeling a bit bored after you played it 100+ hours ? the only thing thats wrong is that you do not feel bored if you play wow for 1000+ hours raiding the same boss for a different colored pair of gloves...
i think in the future we see more of multi-game guilds that are able to keep up their online friendship even thrue a multitude of games and with more games on the market we see a greater diversity and youll play game X when you feel like it and game Y when you think that suits your momentary tastes.
all these games will hopefully be driven upon content and immersion rather then on a (probably harmfull) addiction to grind level and gear
Great write up.
That is the most intelligent post I've seen on the MMORPG.com boards in a long long time.
I couldn't agree more. People need to view these games objectively for what they are; A Form of Entertainment meant specifically to enjoy in your free time.
They are NOT jobs, nor should they be viewed as such unless you are a developer.
Agree with the quotes above. I came out of my MMO coma a long time ago, to me they are games and as such I never hate any of the ones I have played. Have they all provided me with an equal amount of fun? No.
I want you to look at my post history and see if you can spot my very serious problems with that website, where othersd have concurred. WHA is a POS website, and no substitute whatsoever for an official server forum. It is offensive in and of itself that I have to go to a third party site, on top of the fact that every other EA game that I know of has an official forum board. The lack of one absolutely reeks of EAMythic being both cheap and lazy. Sorry.
___________________ Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
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Thats why i like Mythics-goa's decision to skip official forums.
He that lives upon Hope dies farting.
If you refuse to join a good sized active guild and want to solo the game, then WAR is not for you. The whole point of this game is to join forces with other people and fight other large groups of people. Once we get rid of the people that don't understand how to play, the better the game will be.
MMOs Played: EQ 1&2, DAoC, SWG, Planetside, WoW, GW, CoX, DDO, EVE, Vanguard, TR
Playing: WAR
Awaiting 40k Online and wishing for Battletech Online
And as I continue to play the game, I become more irate about that decision. There needs to be, at the very least, server forums. As I anticipated, it has led to varying problems.
___________________
Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/13/
I can't really get into it anymore.
It's really hard to just sit down and play it without doing something else, or focus on one character.
But I'm giving it another month.
Groovy.
you suffer from mmo itis. YOU ARE BORED WITH MMOS period! everyone was expecting some mega uber mmo to come out...ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. warhammer is not the mega uber mmo that you imagined up. we are sorry conan let you down, don't blame it on Mythic and call the game boring when you dont even know why it's "boring". the game is getting 5 stars and 9.0 ratings like crazy, i hope people are smart enough to check the professional reviews out there and not listen to post like these.
you are comparing ryzom to war...ok... here is a video of ryzom...
how is this unique...skill...where? why are you even wasting your time posting in the WAR forum if you have no interest in the game?
like others i think i also got hit by the experience that an mmorpg is just a game
i actually see that as a positiove personal developement.
i played lineage2 hardcore for 4 years straight, oretty much the same as many others play wow
then i swiched to aoc, saw that it was a great game (for my taste of questing/immersion)
then left for war when aoc ran out of content for me and on november 28th ill probably buy spellborne, next year ill buy aion, after that....
i think that once you left your original overly addictive game and bonds to the community your head will become clear and you start to watch these mmos again as computer games and not as your style of living.
whats wrong with buying war and feeling a bit bored after you played it 100+ hours ?
the only thing thats wrong is that you do not feel bored if you play wow for 1000+ hours raiding the same boss for a different colored pair of gloves...
i think in the future we see more of multi-game guilds that are able to keep up their online friendship even thrue a multitude of games and with more games on the market we see a greater diversity and youll play game X when you feel like it and game Y when you think that suits your momentary tastes.
all these games will hopefully be driven upon content and immersion rather then on a (probably harmfull) addiction to grind level and gear
if your bored, visit my blog at:
http://craylon.wordpress.com/ dealing with the look of mmos with the nvidia 3d vision glasses
Warhammer is a mass pvp game in an MMO 'package'. Everything about it focuses on mass or smaller scale player vs player. Think of it as Guild Wars in a persistent world with more 'traditional' RPG careers in it. It's not the sandbox MMO with vast character customisation etc. The pve concept is just something to 'fill in' the time between pvp battles.
When you accept it for what it is, you will have a blast, but you won't have a good time if you try to transform it into an Everquest-type-of-game because that's not what this game is about.
Warhammer Alliance is for all practical purposes 'the official site'. And the server boards there are very active.
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=86
You people are weird.. seriously.
Been like 100 threads on these forums about this topic, all that seems to happen on here is stupid people complaining about a game they don't like, so why even bother to post about you thoughts, obviously people who are enjoying the game get fed up of reading the shit you keep writting.
Anyone who comes on here and defends people like the OP are even more sad for defending him.. he said his opinion, why? who gives a shit, should keep it to himself no one wants to know, most of the replys from the people saying 'i know how you feel' are just odd, do you take games that serious?
sigh thought these forums were for talking about the game not peoples whines and moans.
well for me is like instant fun log in join in scenario and have fun no pve no quests nothing to worry about until they dont force me to pve/quests will be fun for me
OP
for depth and core i play eve maybe u should play more mmo's in same time
don't eat only apples, eat oranges and apples
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I am so glad there are many players who share my own opinion.
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Guilds and buddies help, true... but even MIRC gets fun with a bunch of friends, what's the advantage of playing war?
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well there are more ppl willing to pay money for the games without the "stinging death penalty".
I have no intention of ever playing a game again that punishes me harshly for dying. For me the days of losing a precious item,
having to find someone to put implants back in for me,
having an item broken beyond repair,
taking me out of the action for 15min,
making me walk back to collect my stuff miles away only to die again,
having my body camped by retards 3x my lvl
having my ship destroyed and losing hours of work lost
being punished for a server crash or ISP discon
are well and truly over. MMO'ing is a form of entertainment to me, I do not need the threat of punishment and feeling like shite as a result in order to enjoy a game, any more than I need the threat of my TV blowing up everytime I watch a program.
And the OP is another person suffering MMORPG burnout. Nothing in this genre will satisfy him.
You fail to consider that there can be" punishment" and stinging feel of death in ways that aren't related to the down-sides of it you described so thoroughly.
And it's also wrong to blame the WHOLE GENRE, as if all mmo's are bound to be similar to WAR.
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Great write up.
To the OP:
Who gives a shit?
And maybe it's time for you to stop playing MMOs.
So go play EVE. That is a great game and exactly the opposite of WAR. Don't see why folks are always complaining that whatever game is to simple, not sandbox, no depth, meaningless PvP, and on and on and on. When there is EVE, which has all those things from the git-go. >Shrugs<
Great write up.
That is the most intelligent post I've seen on the MMORPG.com boards in a long long time.
I couldn't agree more. People need to view these games objectively for what they are; A Form of Entertainment meant specifically to enjoy in your free time.
They are NOT jobs, nor should they be viewed as such unless you are a developer.
The sleeper awakes...and rides his dirtbike to the mall.
Great write up.
That is the most intelligent post I've seen on the MMORPG.com boards in a long long time.
I couldn't agree more. People need to view these games objectively for what they are; A Form of Entertainment meant specifically to enjoy in your free time.
They are NOT jobs, nor should they be viewed as such unless you are a developer.
Agree with the quotes above. I came out of my MMO coma a long time ago, to me they are games and as such I never hate any of the ones I have played. Have they all provided me with an equal amount of fun? No.
edit typo
Warhammer Alliance is for all practical purposes 'the official site'. And the server boards there are very active.
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=86
I want you to look at my post history and see if you can spot my very serious problems with that website, where othersd have concurred. WHA is a POS website, and no substitute whatsoever for an official server forum. It is offensive in and of itself that I have to go to a third party site, on top of the fact that every other EA game that I know of has an official forum board. The lack of one absolutely reeks of EAMythic being both cheap and lazy. Sorry.
___________________
Sadly, I see storm clouds on the horizon. A faint stench of Vanguard is in the air.-Kien
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/12/13/