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No really. The BETA testers are telling horror stories about warlocks haveing their a$$es handed to them and I mean they re the one-eyed, left-handed, red-headed step child of WOW in WOTLK. They just keep nerfing warlocks whilst ret pallies are 3 shotting everything in sight. And don't get me stated on mages who are now so OP they might as well be bosses.
It's sick twisted thing Blizzard did to warlocks and they keep buffing stunlock! My freind has the best PVP gear in WOW and he gets stunlocked by blue rogues from 100 to 0. Thus rogues need to be nerfed ...or rather stunlock does or all warlocks will quit.
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Well we're still in beta classes are chnaged once even twice a week. Any 1 who quits now over class balance does not deserve to be in Beta.
Hunters have been nerfed 3 patches in a row, but I am still here.
And in the last patch the 2 changes to lock we're buffs.
Affliction
Improved Corruption - Ranks 3,4, and 5 tooltip fixed. Rank 5: Increases the damage done by your Corruption by 10%, and increases the critical strike chance of your Seed of Corruption by 5%
Destruction
Molten Core - Your Shadow spells and damage over time effects have a 15% chance to increase the damage of your Fire spells by 10% for 12 sec. Up from 6 sec.
But yes ret pallies are OP right now and the dev/players know it. Mages seem fine to me and rogues are just as 50/50 as they have ever been.
Erm, aren't they "TESTING" at the moment in the beta "TEST"?
Anyone that is carrying horror stories is just pure scare mongering as things are changing all the time in testing and don't represent exactly what will actually happen on release. If they were interested in doing what they were supposed to be doing then they should convey their concerns with reasons to the Blizzard testing team rather than carrying tales like kids out of school.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Warlocks didnt get hugely nerfed, they just didnt get massively buffed liked other classes. So, now other classes are on the same level as Warlocks and the bad players cant handle it.
What Blizzard understands about Ret Paladins is that they are over powered at 70 and total suck at 80. Dont expect many changes to Ret Paladins from here on out because Blizzard is now balancing around level 80, because balancing anything for level 70 would be a waste.
Rogues have always been able to stun lock. The people that suck at PvP are the ones that let themselves get killed because of it.
About the only spec that is truly over powered at level 70 and level 80 and for PvE and PvP are Frost Mages.
No. Most of the warlocks are complaining that the expansion doesn't really bring anything new to them like it does other classes. The general consensus within the warlock community is that the class just isn't fun to play in wotlk. The new warlock abilities leave a lot to be desired. And by not getting buffed hardly at all, it kind of is a nerf, lol.
my buddy plays a lock. and he will still be a lock in wotlk no matter what... so *Shrugs* you can tell him other wise. he doesn't really care honestly.
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Oh no, Warlocks are losing their easy-mode, lets all quit.
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The actual number of Warlocks quitting (no, cancelling and reopening when the time runs out doesn't count) is probably no more than two digits, and comparable to any other classes.
good warlocks are lame...but seriously they aren't leaving in droves just bitching like every other class because they all wanna be the top dog.
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And stop over exaggerating about rogues if people would stop trying the be the solo hero rogues wouldn't be able to do much, since they are as squishy as those that wear cloth.
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QQ lock. Why don’t you fear kite and spec dmg that cuts through my pally bubble. You want to see a class in trouble, check the pally forums.
Rogues and warlocks were probably the strongest classes going into Wrath. It's only reasonable that those two classes are getting the least buffs. Shaman and Pallys were the two weakest classes, pallys (ret in particular) got nice buffs.. Shaman still feel underpowered. But again.. it is still Beta testing. Give them time.
From what I saw of the Shaman trees, it looks like a step into the right direction.
Still needs work, but as a shaman since pre-bc, I'm fairly happy with what they're doing so far, and I hope they give us some more power to even the playfields.
But as for warlocks, I didn't expect much change for their class, because its already good.
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Agrees. Also it is still in beta, the balance will change anyways. If someone is dumb enough to quit because of the beta they really should never be in a beta....
If you really want to have a reason to whine,roll a shadow priest.
Oh noes,you mean after 1 year of continuos favoritism (buffs) to warlocks making them the most OP and the most easy to play in PVP and PVE arent OP anymore ./quit wow x1000000mil
And just to point out.. there are 3 new 'cool' abilities that are being added with Wrath ( debatable). Most of the classes got stuff ranging from a innervate for Shadow priests to a AOE for moonkin. But the following just have a 'wow' factor and one is for warlocks
Metamophisis (turn into a giant demon)
BM Huner (taming devilosaur)
Fury Warrior ( duel wielding giant weapons).
So while warlocks aren't getting really beefy new skills, they are getting a cool one.
Well I quit playing warlocks back about 1 month after Burning Crusade came out. I wanted to quit probably after the first 6 months after Warlocks became something they should never have become. Warlocks became Shadow Priests mixed with mages, and no matter how you speced your warlock you were not unique. I got tired of my pet being useless even after I fully speced to be a demonologist. I hated that in order to contend in BG I had to spec affliction or Destruction. None of these specs made the Warlock a character worth playing, or made them unique. You were never better then any other class for anything, Priests could drain better then you, mages could nuke better then you and hunters well lets face it there pets could walk on you. The Warlock had the potential to be one of the best classes out there but Blizzard screwed that up.
Sorry but I don't think WOTLK is going to make people quit playing Warlocks in Droves I think blizzard did that over the last few years. I am tired of playing a game that the characters are not unique, that is why I quit WOW and I am on the search for a game that will satisfy my hunger for a real MMO.
My main is a destro lock spec'd 0/21/40. Looking at the talent trees, and being that I love destruction and have really enjoyed playing it....my only gripe is that I won't be able to have sacrifice anymore and still get the best use from the destro tree.
However, I don't expect this to effect me TOO terribly, as I'm NOT a PvP lock. I'm a raider. So, as bad as this MIGHT be for the PvP crowd, I'm not too terribly worried, myself. On the other hand, the new Wintergrasp with seige weapons and whatnot, sort of makes me want to at LEAST check out the new PvP. Yikes. Well, heck...I'm going to die a lot in PvP anyway, because I'm not very good at it, so....meh....guess it's still no biggie for me. LOL
The OP is sort of comical. I'm SO sure that warlocks will be bailing out in droves, as though most people don't have more than one 70 and multiple other alts as well. If my warlock ends up SO nerfed that I can't perform effectively in a raid, then I'll just play my druid, my warrior, my rogue, my mage, my priest, or my hunter until it gets better. ROFL
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Warlocks are one of the most popular classes in WOW. They are also really good in PVP if you play them right. Yes, every class has a weak spec for BG's and for Warlocks it is Demonology. You wear cloth, mobility is your friend. Being able to throw up insta-cast DOTs while running is something mages can't do, and shadow priests can barely do(they have SW;Pain, that is all). It is fairly easy for a warlock to kill another player just using instant-cast DOTs, and a felhunter is far from useless when fighting casters... and against melee class, well you dont' need a pet.. just run and cast insta-casts.
So your almost on par with shamans in wotlk. Fortunately blizz tends to listen to locks QQing, unlike shaman who might as well be chatting to a brick wall.
warlocks deserve it, i dont pity them.
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blizzard said in the past few days the numbers are not finished yet so people getting thier knickers in a twist over something unfinished (insert class here) is just plain daft or maybe they should just go sit at thier desk and finish thier homework.
for the lazy go search yourself i already read them :P http://blue.mmo-champion.com/
Not only does Blizzard agree with you, but they are more than willing to oblige. I have seen more than one forum thread or blog post applauding Blizzard for taking an aggressive stance on people making demands or whining incessantly in the beta. They've been outright banning them and giving their spot away to someone with reasonable input.
I play a warlock and what bothers me so much is that if such a class is really giving you a hard time then why not bring a friend or two and counter-attack them? It seems a lot of the posts revolve around 1 vs 1 rather than trying to seek the facts that each class has a strength and weakness. I have been BGing a lot and the biggest mistake that people do is not being aware of their surroundings and end up in a trap where the rogue's strengths are high and eventually lock you down in most cases. Pvp trinket and deathcoil may help a little but hopefully a friend can aid you and counter-attack from the distance with dots and fears before their cooldowns are up again. If people are reviewing the warlock class by dueling then all means they are stupid.
Then again, I am looking forward being a lock in the expac and see what more tricks to play around with in pvp or pve. I am not too concerned unless they force us into the same old 0/21/50 spec which I hardly doubt due to Affliction being on par again for PvE. We will see.
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