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AoC vs LotRO
PezzBomb
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I just purchased AoC. I still try to understand the difference between AoC and LotRO though (beside the obvious which is lore). Have anyone played both AoC and LotRO and if so what are good versus bad in the two games? I know AoC graphics and atmosphere PWNs anything else in the industry, but what else is there?
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Eh Pezz u just bought yourself a cosy deluxe house in the Trollshaws?
The only ones they pwned were their naive subscribers...
AoC better than LOTRO in... graphics? probably... atmosphere? not even close. LOTRO easily beats every MMO I have ever played in atmosphere... Evendim being a prime example; it's not my favorite place to quest because the quests are better written than other areas
Uh can someone explain to the op that his post was one of the worst ones to end up in the lotro forums.
Did you even play lotro, i guess not or youd see that these two game are totally different.
One of them is a gore pvp failure, the other is a nice feeling pve mild succes.
I'm not a no life that sits in front of his computer all day long, I'm an intern that sits in front of his computer all day long.
Hrmm interesting perspective on AoC's graphics -- from all the screen shots I saw I thought it was graphically a dissapointment. Actually the screen shots from AoC deterred me from even trying it because it would have been a severe downgrade from LOTRO -- so if you're primarily thinking graphics then LOTRO definately has the win!
AoC was a PvP based game from what i understand (I'm more of a PvE fan) so again it didn't appeal to me -- however, it's design showed an immense amount of promise for the PvP community. I honestly thouhgt it was going to have more success until I started hearing from beta testers that it was incredibly unstable and not to buy it. AoC went the way of Vanguard on release -- horribly unstable, incredibly broken, anyone I knew who went to try it because they wanted a PvP game came running back to LOTRO waiting on WAR for their PvP.
So I guess it comes down to what you are looking for -- LOTRO is a very strong PvE game WAR is a very strong PvP game AoC was from all accounts a big flop desperately trying to recover from a horrid release.
I played both games for about two months each and I find that pretty much all MMO's feel the same to me, the only one that breaks the mould is DDO which is why it is the only one I have resubbed again after the initital enjoyment wore off.
LOTR has more to do that is not killing things, it's deeper and has more content, deeds, crafting, lore. It's all there in bucketloads more than AOC. I found the crafting in LOTR superior to any other MMO I played because it didn't try to be anything more than it had to and it was fulfilling and easy and above all else, the things I could make were useful.
AOC has the benefit of a more interesting combat system in my opinion, it kept the game interesting for me despite the lackluster quests and content after the intital tortage quests. The first twenty levels were a pure joy to me but after that it went downhill rather quickly. I found the graphical style of AOC more to my liking than LOTR although I am not saying I found either ugly by any stretch of the imagination.
To sum up I think both have problems, I think they both suffer from replayability issues, where playing alts is tedious and a chore. I enjoy making alts so this is a gamebreaker for me. I got bored of both after about the same amount of time, mostly due to replaying content; although the quests were better written for LOTR the actual quest objectives were no more interesting in either game, standard deliver this, speak to this person, go kill this creature quests.
If you are looking for something to keep you interested, either will work in different ways although I think likely thanks to the state of the content for AOC, LOTR will be able to hold your interest for a longer period of time. If you are looking for something a little out of the box, DDO is always worth a look too although it is not for everyone.
I play AoC and have played a bit of LOTRO too...
They are not that far from eachother in many ways both good and bad. The questing system works quite the same, old EQ recycled stuff even though in AoC you can talk to the npc a lot more and ask questions. Unfortunatley it only matters in few cases (I threatened a guy trying to pay me less than he promised and got my cash for once).
The map in AoC feels a little bit better but it's really no big deal.
LOTRO have always felt more stable, AoC have solved a lot of buggs but still have some.
At the release AoC had only the noob area polished. LOTRO released only a small polished part. I don'tlike any of those options honestly but both games have improved.
The interface is about the same old Everquest interface we seen before in both games.
The combat is very different in AoC for non magic users, it is more advanced and which side you hit matters, also in AoC you cant walk through others and you can hide behind things and body block. LOTRO have the same system we seen before a lot.
Both games are quite good in their own ways, I didn't really like the graphics in LOTRO (mainly of the avatars, the backgrounds look a lot better, I rather have it other way around) and the game never really clicked for me. I do like AoC however, not really sure why, maybe it is fresh to play fantasy without the elves dwarfs and so on... I play mostly PvE BTW if that matters.
But I think AoC is off the lore with magic, it is way to common compared to the books. LOTRO have the same problem also and in the Tolkien books you get the feeling that magical objects are dangerous, the game didn't give me the same feeling at all. Both of the games could be more correct to the lore.
Oh, yeah... AoC is instanced, it is max 96 players in the same zone at the same time, citys not counted. Booth good and bad, makes the que to kill certains monsters smaller but do make the game feeling a litle bit lesser massive at the same time.
And both game have servers that have to litle population, try Crom or Fury in AoC they are big. AoC will merge some servers soon and LOTRO must really do this too. Many game directors are scared to do that, afraid that people will think that the game is dying but we players deserve to play with many other players and they can always open more servers later.
Anyways my advice: Try both games and choose the one you like best (and if you try LOTRO, have someone to reccomend a server with good populaton). It is really just about having fun anyways. And yes it was a longtime ago I played LOTRO some things might have changed.
I didn't really play aoc, I just tried it at a friends place. But I play lotro. Aoc graphs are indeed verry nice, but so does lotro's graphs. But atmosphere? Well lotro pwnz every game in the industry when I comes to atmosphere (my opinion) and I also more like lotro, It's the best pve game out now. Pvp is in Aoc much better I think, Although ettenmoors is quite fun ^^
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I play AoC and have played a bit of LOTRO too...
They are not that far from eachother in many ways both good and bad. The questing system works quite the same, old EQ recycled stuff even though in AoC you can talk to the npc a lot more and ask questions. Unfortunatley it only matters in few cases (I threatened a guy trying to pay me less than he promised and got my cash for once).
The map in AoC feels a little bit better but it's really no big deal.
LOTRO have always felt more stable, AoC have solved a lot of buggs but still have some.
At the release AoC had only the noob area polished. LOTRO released only a small polished part. I don'tlike any of those options honestly but both games have improved.
The interface is about the same old Everquest interface we seen before in both games.
The combat is very different in AoC for non magic users, it is more advanced and which side you hit matters, also in AoC you cant walk through others and you can hide behind things and body block. LOTRO have the same system we seen before a lot.
Both games are quite good in their own ways, I didn't really like the graphics in LOTRO (mainly of the avatars, the backgrounds look a lot better, I rather have it other way around) and the game never really clicked for me. I do like AoC however, not really sure why, maybe it is fresh to play fantasy without the elves dwarfs and so on... I play mostly PvE BTW if that matters.
But I think AoC is off the lore with magic, it is way to common compared to the books. LOTRO have the same problem also and in the Tolkien books you get the feeling that magical objects are dangerous, the game didn't give me the same feeling at all. Both of the games could be more correct to the lore.
Oh, yeah... AoC is instanced, it is max 96 players in the same zone at the same time, citys not counted. Booth good and bad, makes the que to kill certains monsters smaller but do make the game feeling a litle bit lesser massive at the same time.
And both game have servers that have to litle population, try Crom or Fury in AoC they are big. AoC will merge some servers soon and LOTRO must really do this too. Many game directors are scared to do that, afraid that people will think that the game is dying but we players deserve to play with many other players and they can always open more servers later.
Anyways my advice: Try both games and choose the one you like best (and if you try LOTRO, have someone to reccomend a server with good populaton). It is really just about having fun anyways. And yes it was a longtime ago I played LOTRO some things might have changed.
I've played both games quite a bit, and I feel this post sums it up quite nicely.
AoC has many of the good features of LOTRO, such as well-written quests, and a great atmosphere.
Unfortunately, a lot of people spew venom reflexively at the very mention of AoC, and will ty to tell you you wasted your money, etc. Pay no heed. If you like it, play it...if not, there's always LOTRO.
I remember back in 1999, folks kept asking me if I was stockpiling food. I always answered, "No, I'm stockpiling ammo and making a list of people who are stockpiling food"
I play AoC and have played a bit of LOTRO too...
They are not that far from eachother in many ways both good and bad. The questing system works quite the same, old EQ recycled stuff even though in AoC you can talk to the npc a lot more and ask questions. Unfortunatley it only matters in few cases (I threatened a guy trying to pay me less than he promised and got my cash for once).
The map in AoC feels a little bit better but it's really no big deal.
LOTRO have always felt more stable, AoC have solved a lot of buggs but still have some.
At the release AoC had only the noob area polished. LOTRO released only a small polished part. I don'tlike any of those options honestly but both games have improved.
The interface is about the same old Everquest interface we seen before in both games.
The combat is very different in AoC for non magic users, it is more advanced and which side you hit matters, also in AoC you cant walk through others and you can hide behind things and body block. LOTRO have the same system we seen before a lot.
Both games are quite good in their own ways, I didn't really like the graphics in LOTRO (mainly of the avatars, the backgrounds look a lot better, I rather have it other way around) and the game never really clicked for me. I do like AoC however, not really sure why, maybe it is fresh to play fantasy without the elves dwarfs and so on... I play mostly PvE BTW if that matters.
But I think AoC is off the lore with magic, it is way to common compared to the books. LOTRO have the same problem also and in the Tolkien books you get the feeling that magical objects are dangerous, the game didn't give me the same feeling at all. Both of the games could be more correct to the lore.
Oh, yeah... AoC is instanced, it is max 96 players in the same zone at the same time, citys not counted. Booth good and bad, makes the que to kill certains monsters smaller but do make the game feeling a litle bit lesser massive at the same time.
And both game have servers that have to litle population, try Crom or Fury in AoC they are big. AoC will merge some servers soon and LOTRO must really do this too. Many game directors are scared to do that, afraid that people will think that the game is dying but we players deserve to play with many other players and they can always open more servers later.
Anyways my advice: Try both games and choose the one you like best (and if you try LOTRO, have someone to reccomend a server with good populaton). It is really just about having fun anyways. And yes it was a longtime ago I played LOTRO some things might have changed.
I've played both games quite a bit, and I feel this post sums it up quite nicely.
AoC has many of the good features of LOTRO, such as well-written quests, and a great atmosphere.
Unfortunately, a lot of people spew venom reflexively at the very mention of AoC, and will ty to tell you you wasted your money, etc. Pay no heed. If you like it, play it...if not, there's always LOTRO.
I play both and will agree with these two posters, they both share an equal amount of good and bad. Ultimately it's going to be you who has to decide which you prefer.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The games are totally different.
AoC is far smaller in most places and heavily instanced, this makes the area different, you can't ride from one end of the world to the other.
Graphics in AoC are 'better'. I personally liked that my characters face in AoC didn't look like everyone elses, but it was let down by the armour, with everyone wearing the same thing.
But the gameplay is TOTALLY different. More or less, all the classes in AoC play the game, go in, pull the number of enemies you can deal with and AoE them to death with pseudo-twitch gameplay style.
Lotro is un-ashamedly EQ style, skills with Cooldowns and a random number generator determinng wether you hit or not. But the number of skills and variety makes selecting what skill you use the trick.
AoC fans LOVE the twitch, they want to smack things and twist and turn and say that doing this requires the greatest skill.
EQ/Lotro/WoW fans love the skills, they want to known their class, learn what skills to use and think that using the right skills at the right time requires the greatest skill.
You can't compare the two. If would like trying to compare Doom vs Thief. Both are FPS, but totally different nonetheless.
More important for the gamer who wants a good MMORPG however is that Lotro worked at launch and continues to work. AoC is pretty much a disaster, with its director now having been asked to leave. It might survive, Anarchy Online did, but still.
Lotro is another also ran MMORPG. Never had the number to worry Blizzard or even Funcom, but a good steady performer that makes Funcom enough to fund their next middle of the road title.
AoC director said that AoC was stead and wine, yes Lotro is Hamburger and Coke. It is McD. There is a reason why McD has 'a million served' outside its restaurants, because however 'standard' it might be it is a nice solid meal that tastes plenty good for most.
Be honest, if you need a quick snack, do you go in to McD or some dank steakhouse with rats in the kitchen?
I don't see any comparison at all especially since LOTRO is one of the most polished releases to date and AOC is still just a paid beta. Even if there was any kind of depth to the game I don't think I could play it as the system design is horrible the world feels microscopic the art while nice looking is actually pretty uninspiring it's just a bad game overall in my opinion.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Just got AoC guys. I am entering Tortage and I dig this so fare. really absolutely mindblowing graphics as well as atmosphere (and jaxundane thanks for lying to me and the community). I'll let you know when I also get my hands on LotRO. Evenetually there will come a very reflected objective comparison of the games.
I tried playing LOTRO after AOC, but just couldnt get in to it again. I think AOC combat system has spoiled me forgood now.
AoC has great graphics and the rest is pretty piss poor, LOTRO is a solid game all around.
Ohh.. Hold on there, I do not know about LotRO but I certainly know about AoC. i just started playing it and I would say it's fantastic.
Well i like to play AoC and i didnt like LOTRO. Even tho LOTRO might be more complete in some aspects i love AoC´s graphics (its the best out there for MMOs) and i like the combat system that is not as boring as in most fantasy MMOs.
You do LOTRO a disservice mentioning it in the same sentence as AoC..d'oh! I did too!!!!
Well I will buy LotRO too. I have heard so much nice about LotRO and I will test this game also within the next month. It's just that I felt I had to comment on the pretty blatant statement above that AoC is not any good. I tell you AoC is absolutely something very special in a good way, it's just that it has many new systems in place which some people want to flame about.
Ohh.. Hold on there, I do not know about LotRO but I certainly know about AoC. i just started playing it and I would say it's fantastic.
Tortage is excellent, no wonder you find the game fantastic.
However, when you leave the tutorial area (above lvl 20), it is a screaming downfall - at least, for many, many people
DB
Denial makes one look a lot dumber than he/she actually is.
Ohh.. Hold on there, I do not know about LotRO but I certainly know about AoC. i just started playing it and I would say it's fantastic.
Exactly you just started playing. Get out of the starter town and then get back to us.
Don't get me wrong AoC isn't a bad game LOTRO is simply a better all around game.
Ohh.. Hold on there, I do not know about LotRO but I certainly know about AoC. i just started playing it and I would say it's fantastic.
Tortage is excellent, no wonder you find the game fantastic.
However, when you leave the tutorial area (above lvl 20), it is a screaming downfall - at least, for many, many people
DB
What? I didnt saw any difference between Tortage and other areas. And i got as far as Fields of the Dead now.