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How many boxes will Wrath sell in the first 24hrs?

AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582

Just to give some history.  When WOW launched BC, it had 7M subscribers and sold 2.4M copies of BC on the first day.  WOW now has about 10.7M subscribers.

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  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582

    I used the 3.5 breakoff point on purpose.. that is proportionally the same as BC.   All things being equal, Wrath 'should' sell 3.5M.

  • teknicianteknician Member UncommonPosts: 270

    Does that include pre-orders?

  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582

    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.

  • ScalebaneScalebane Member UncommonPosts: 1,883

    Well if its like the last xpac, in my area there won't be a box left on the shelves.

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  • coffeecoffee Member Posts: 2,007
    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    I am quite sure those 2.4 inc pre-orders... when TBC was released it was only released in the west at the time to its 3.7million player base (as it was then), sold 2.4 million in 24 hours which I am sure included pre-orders and those crazies who queued up at midnight, within a month blizzard sold a told of 3.5million (to a player base of 3.7million). Thats almost 100% conversion rate.

    since then the western playerbase has grown to 4.5 million (as of january 2008), is it still 4.5 million or higher? I dont know.. but just like with TBC i expect an almost 100% conversion rate with the month.

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  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by coffee

    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    I am quite sure those 2.4 inc pre-orders... when TBC was released it was only released in the west at the time to its 3.7million player base (as it was then), sold 2.4 million in 24 hours which I am sure included pre-orders and those crazies who queued up at midnight, within a month blizzard sold a told of 3.5million (to a player base of 3.7million). Thats almost 100% conversion rate.

    since then the western playerbase has grown to 4.5 million (as of january 2008), is it still 4.5 million or higher? I dont know.. but just like with TBC i expect an almost 100% conversion rate with the month.



     

    Here is a quote that I think shows that it was actual sales, and not preorders.. take it for what it's worth.  This is from the Blizzard press release regarding the 2.4m number

    "By the end of the first day of availability, more than 1.7 million players had logged on and upgraded World of Warcraft to play The Burning Crusade. "



    to me, that strongly suggests the 2.4M number is actual sales and no preorders.

  • Pans_FolleyPans_Folley Member UncommonPosts: 76

    I know I have two on order. One collector and one standard.    I know, but it's a fun game!

     

  • SmikisSmikis Member UncommonPosts: 1,045

    preorder is same as simple sale on release day ..

     

    never in gaming history preorder and simple sale were separated..

    when xx game says they sold xxx means they sold with preorders not just from stores..

    and so on

     

    when they say xxx logged on first day , they mean that xxx players had xxx game at that day.. and doesnt matter from where..

     

    selling over 3 millions just in stores withing 12 hours are insane.. considering stores work for 8-9 hours..  most ppl work/attend school that leaves last 2-4 hours to sell 3 mln ?

     

    wont mention the fact that half europe wont have wow on release day.. apart from preorders.. and even that probably gona be late 1 day ..

  • Deadm0ney4uDeadm0ney4u Member Posts: 127

    I bet you WOTLK sells more copies in 1st 24 hours including preorder than all the scrub so called WOW killers combined. warhammer,lotro,aoc and even throw in vanguard for fun.

  • NetspookNetspook Member UncommonPosts: 1,583
    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by coffee

    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    I am quite sure those 2.4 inc pre-orders... when TBC was released it was only released in the west at the time to its 3.7million player base (as it was then), sold 2.4 million in 24 hours which I am sure included pre-orders and those crazies who queued up at midnight, within a month blizzard sold a told of 3.5million (to a player base of 3.7million). Thats almost 100% conversion rate.

    since then the western playerbase has grown to 4.5 million (as of january 2008), is it still 4.5 million or higher? I dont know.. but just like with TBC i expect an almost 100% conversion rate with the month.



     

    Here is a quote that I think shows that it was actual sales, and not preorders.. take it for what it's worth.  This is from the Blizzard press release regarding the 2.4m number

    "By the end of the first day of availability, more than 1.7 million players had logged on and upgraded World of Warcraft to play The Burning Crusade. "



    to me, that strongly suggests the 2.4M number is actual sales and no preorders.

    I remember the press release about the 2.4m. I can't provide any link to prove it, but I'm 100% sure the number included pre-orders.

  • ThekandyThekandy Member Posts: 621

    I think it will sell over 2 but under a billion copies.



    Seriously, we don't know only time will tell.

  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by Netspook

    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by coffee

    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    I am quite sure those 2.4 inc pre-orders... when TBC was released it was only released in the west at the time to its 3.7million player base (as it was then), sold 2.4 million in 24 hours which I am sure included pre-orders and those crazies who queued up at midnight, within a month blizzard sold a told of 3.5million (to a player base of 3.7million). Thats almost 100% conversion rate.

    since then the western playerbase has grown to 4.5 million (as of january 2008), is it still 4.5 million or higher? I dont know.. but just like with TBC i expect an almost 100% conversion rate with the month.



     

    Here is a quote that I think shows that it was actual sales, and not preorders.. take it for what it's worth.  This is from the Blizzard press release regarding the 2.4m number

    "By the end of the first day of availability, more than 1.7 million players had logged on and upgraded World of Warcraft to play The Burning Crusade. "



    to me, that strongly suggests the 2.4M number is actual sales and no preorders.

    I remember the press release about the 2.4m. I can't provide any link to prove it, but I'm 100% sure the number included pre-orders.



     

    I read the press release and it didnt' say anything about preorders.. it said the game sold 2.4 million copies.  I then quoted a line from that press release that said 1.7M people updated their accounts on that first day.. which they could only have done if they bought the box.. you can't update your account from a pre-order.

  • NetspookNetspook Member UncommonPosts: 1,583
    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by Netspook

    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by coffee

    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    I am quite sure those 2.4 inc pre-orders... when TBC was released it was only released in the west at the time to its 3.7million player base (as it was then), sold 2.4 million in 24 hours which I am sure included pre-orders and those crazies who queued up at midnight, within a month blizzard sold a told of 3.5million (to a player base of 3.7million). Thats almost 100% conversion rate.

    since then the western playerbase has grown to 4.5 million (as of january 2008), is it still 4.5 million or higher? I dont know.. but just like with TBC i expect an almost 100% conversion rate with the month.



     

    Here is a quote that I think shows that it was actual sales, and not preorders.. take it for what it's worth.  This is from the Blizzard press release regarding the 2.4m number

    "By the end of the first day of availability, more than 1.7 million players had logged on and upgraded World of Warcraft to play The Burning Crusade. "



    to me, that strongly suggests the 2.4M number is actual sales and no preorders.

    I remember the press release about the 2.4m. I can't provide any link to prove it, but I'm 100% sure the number included pre-orders.



     

    I read the press release and it didnt' say anything about preorders.. it said the game sold 2.4 million copies.  I then quoted a line from that press release that said 1.7M people updated their accounts on that first day.. which they could only have done if they bought the box.. you can't update your account from a pre-order.



    Don't be stupid. I pre-ordered TBC, and had my box a day or two before it went live. Pre-order doesn't mean you don't get the box.

  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582
    Originally posted by Netspook

    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by Netspook

    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by coffee

    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    I am quite sure those 2.4 inc pre-orders... when TBC was released it was only released in the west at the time to its 3.7million player base (as it was then), sold 2.4 million in 24 hours which I am sure included pre-orders and those crazies who queued up at midnight, within a month blizzard sold a told of 3.5million (to a player base of 3.7million). Thats almost 100% conversion rate.

    since then the western playerbase has grown to 4.5 million (as of january 2008), is it still 4.5 million or higher? I dont know.. but just like with TBC i expect an almost 100% conversion rate with the month.



     

    Here is a quote that I think shows that it was actual sales, and not preorders.. take it for what it's worth.  This is from the Blizzard press release regarding the 2.4m number

    "By the end of the first day of availability, more than 1.7 million players had logged on and upgraded World of Warcraft to play The Burning Crusade. "



    to me, that strongly suggests the 2.4M number is actual sales and no preorders.

    I remember the press release about the 2.4m. I can't provide any link to prove it, but I'm 100% sure the number included pre-orders.



     

    I read the press release and it didnt' say anything about preorders.. it said the game sold 2.4 million copies.  I then quoted a line from that press release that said 1.7M people updated their accounts on that first day.. which they could only have done if they bought the box.. you can't update your account from a pre-order.



    Don't be stupid. I pre-ordered TBC, and had my box a day or two before it went live. Pre-order doesn't mean you don't get the box.



     

    You misunderstood.   You don't get the box JUST from the pre-order.. you have to actually follow through on the purchase.  A lot of places let you pre-order without actually paying (some make you pay a few dollars)

    in other words.. if I pre-order the game, but never actually follow through on the pre-order and purchase the expansion..  I would not be able to update my account to a BC account.  The press release from Blizzard said 1.7 people updated their accounts.. which means they bought the box (some preordered first, some didnt).

     

  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138
    Originally posted by Azrile

    Originally posted by coffee

    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    I am quite sure those 2.4 inc pre-orders... when TBC was released it was only released in the west at the time to its 3.7million player base (as it was then), sold 2.4 million in 24 hours which I am sure included pre-orders and those crazies who queued up at midnight, within a month blizzard sold a told of 3.5million (to a player base of 3.7million). Thats almost 100% conversion rate.

    since then the western playerbase has grown to 4.5 million (as of january 2008), is it still 4.5 million or higher? I dont know.. but just like with TBC i expect an almost 100% conversion rate with the month.



     

    Here is a quote that I think shows that it was actual sales, and not preorders.. take it for what it's worth.  This is from the Blizzard press release regarding the 2.4m number

    "By the end of the first day of availability, more than 1.7 million players had logged on and upgraded World of Warcraft to play The Burning Crusade. "



    to me, that strongly suggests the 2.4M number is actual sales and no preorders.

    That suggests preorders as well then.  Why wouldn't someone who pre-ordered log in and upgrade when the game was released?  Now it wouldn't include pre-orders that were not actually used or cancelled.

     

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  • XenuneXenune Member Posts: 47

    It will be more than 3.5 million now that South America and Russia are in the market. I say this because I remember during the summer they opened up sales in Russia (own servers as well) and opened up to South America countries that will make it even more huge. However, I am not sure what Blizzard said about what areas will be sold on the 13th of November.

    My question is: Are they releasing on the same day as others? I remember Europe and Asian countries get theirs later on so I might be wrong about more than 3.5 million.

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  • sonicwhipsonicwhip Member UncommonPosts: 117

    hmm lets see....according to gamestop and other video game retail franchises WOTLk has been the number 1 pre ordered product in america europe canada latin america oceanic territories and a whole bunch of other countries since it was first put up for pre order and other than that it is in the top ten most anticipated video games of 2008.....hmm i think it will sell hmmm.... alot!

  • AzrileAzrile Member Posts: 2,582

    Now that we are a day away.... more votes please!!

  • miatakamiataka Member Posts: 232
    Originally posted by Azrile


    Now that we are a day away.... more votes please!!

     

    i think it will sell right around 6 million copies due to that many people have lvl 70+ character and looking for new content . I know many people on my server that left have returned and have been preparing for wrath for the last month.

     

    yes in the 1st 24 hours

     

     

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  • teabagteabag Member Posts: 118

    Wotlk will not break the first expansion TBC population.

    Thanks to WowDetox.com

  • Pappy13Pappy13 Member Posts: 2,138
    Originally posted by Azrile


    Nah.. it's meaningless to count people who pre-order unless they actually buy the game on the first day.   The 2.4M for BC was actual game sales the first day.



     

    Just to be clear, that 2.4M number for BC was actual accounts updated to BC, it doesn't matter whether you pre-order or not, you can't update the account until you have the key and you won't have the key until you actually purchase the box.

    Edit:  Oops, I got that wrong.  1.7 million was actually the number of updated accounts and the 2.4 million number was an estimated total sold.  Still I would assume that since some of the 1.7 million that updated their account obviously pre-ordered the game, that the 2.4 million must have included pre-orders.

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  • DreamagramDreamagram Member Posts: 798
    Originally posted by Azrile


    I used the 3.5 breakoff point on purpose.. that is proportionally the same as BC.   All things being equal, Wrath 'should' sell 3.5M.

    According to these two press releases, TBC didn't launch in China and Korea on the same day as in US and Europe, and neither will WotLK. I don't think they've announced how many subscribers are in US, Europe and Asia for some time, which would also be a factor in that calculation.

    I wonder whether the new Russian market will give a boost. Could be that people who'd like to start playing have waited for the expansion rather than jumping into the game when it launched in Russian some months ago.

  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316

    It will do better than TBC that's for sure.   When TBC launch i just run to my local store on launch day and pick up a copy, now today i tried to go to some local stores to reserve a copy and none were accepting reservation, all of them were out of stock.

  • ZsavoozZsavooz Member Posts: 532

    just ordered for overnigh delivery. Sucked me in again...I prey thee it's better than BC, which I loathed.

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