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I played WoW for several months and enjoyed it alot. I only quit because my computer was too slow to keep up with the raids and in australia its $40 for two months which is about 2/3 of my entertainment budget.
WoW has great gameplay and the reason people play it for so long is because it is so good compared to so many other MMO's. Battles are easy and yet make you try, playing with people also makes it easier and is one of the only MMO's where playing with other people is worth while. Aggro and the whole way that works out is simple and effective. The community is fun and entertaining. also, if you don't like the Chuck jokes you can turn off general chat.
Sadly, WoW loses on credibility with its end game grind for gear. people don't spend months on end playing it to get to the cap, they play it to upgrade their gear. it makes the cap (going from 70) about 10 lvls higher. A person in teir 1 can pwn someone in teir 6 however the arena sets with resiliance and the like brings me to my next downfall wit the game. Inequality of classes. It destroys the game. in short,
Warriors- tanks to the max, so tanky in fact that their attack sucks. shame, because I played a warrior for a bit and sometimes you realy do need damage more than def like PVP). druids pwnt you.
mage- Water cooler, you summon food and water. greatISH attack, however druids pwnt you. useful for WSG in lower lvls for flag running 9if you know my little secrets) or my faveofalltime "MAGE TANKING!" where you run around gathering the literal aggro of the opponents whilst spamming FS and MS till you run out of mp or die. not much else use though.
rogue- does its job and well, probably the most balanced end game class (or was when i was playing) was a complete killer. sadly they killed lowe lvl pvp with twinking. one of the only classes that is not completely obselete by druids.
Pally- ish and ish, don't know too much about them however i do know they fucked up warriors for a long time with heal tanking.
huntard- waht the fu*k? I am not sure weather it is the class or the people playing the class that make this the most annoying class below druids. They can DPS, and do alot of hurty things but wait,they get a pet aswell? the pet can DPS (averagely) and do some nasty things then he huntard can heal them. Unfair alot and they are horrible to play with, most huntard players think like "my pet can tank, I can DPS and I'll heal my pet... one man army FTW!"
Shammy- love the shammy, say no to one and die, not through skill, through frosh shock. Shaman is great but it is an unbalanced class in its self. all the shocks are obselete to frost shock as with all the weapon enchants. Simmy-shamans were great in all 3 ways though which makes them ok.
priest- no one needs one. sadly druid and shaman does it better (goes druid, Shaman then pally or priest). If you go shadow you are still wanted to heal and sadly everyone goes shadow. healing as a priest is so inefective compared to druids.
Druids- should be WoD or World of Druidcraft. Druids can literaly make a party and beat any situation acting as DPS healer tank caster puller. no commas because they do all that. druids are undeniably the most unfair class in the game.
Loc- great class and a tad unfair and over powered in some situations. like the preist, screaming like a little girl is effective at doing the job and pissing everyone off.
so WoW is a little bent in that way. same with crafting. alot of crafts were useless. Blacksmithing sucked and mining and herbing (together) earnt me enough to single handedly, by lvl 30 have a full sized scrub guild with two tabs in the bank and enough lvl 70 joining (because the name did not contain murloc and sounded cool) to run their own raids. The community in wow still makes up for all this. only if you paly horde though. Alliance is literaly twelve year olds and annoying teens playing the good guys. its creepy, gnomes everywhere, people asking you not to sware. Alliance was not a good choice for me, I deleeted all my characters (only 2 30's a 20 and some other toons) and became horde. only to reealise i was on a PVE server. Seriously, PVE is weak as all hell. community is worse as well as gameplay.
I still regard WoW above alot of mmo's for its cash shop, or lack there of. Cash shops are a nessesity however in WoW the subscription pays for it. everything is free, it was great. probably the most decisive factor in killing an MMO is the ccash shop making you pay actual money to enjoy it combind with the slow experience rates. This alone is why WoW has so many players. top that off with customer service which exists (i got stuck in a wall, sent a ticket and when I was back on i was in the town and they had fixed the glitch) WoW becomes one of the better MMO's.
I give WoW a 8/10. It has earnt it sadly the subscription cost and need to play because of it, topped off with the complete lack of balance, which they are still yet ot fix. WoW lets its self down.
Side note: playing all classes is worth while in a dungeon, although druids can do it all, in the PVE aspect WoW gets a deserved 9/10.
played WoW, GW, RO, MS, Thang, RS, RAKION, PWI, Atlantica Online, FlyFF, RF (I'll miss RF) and a fiew more.
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For as much effort as you've put into this review...I've to say well done and thanks.
And yes, I agree; the grindfest that is WoW, is too much for me.
Also, what did you like most of RF Online, I've never heard or read of it before. I'd appreciate your response.
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It's honestly like everyone logs onto WoW, and games like WoW, just to masturbate. Everyone plays by themselves, and when they don't, they get what they want and get off.
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Originally posted by atziluth...
Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.
Just wondering - which version (patch) of WoW are you basing your review on ?
They look old to me - it doesn't look 3.0.2 at all.
Warriors- tanks to the max, so tanky in fact that their attack sucks. shame, because I played a warrior for a bit and sometimes you realy do need damage more than def like PVP). druids pwnt you.
I don't think you've seen a fury warrior in action, they are absolutely lethal, in PvE they can top the damage meters and in PvP they have some of the hardest hitting abilities in the game - ALL instant cast, if a warrior is standing next to you, you are basically dead.
mage- Water cooler, you summon food and water. greatISH attack, however druids pwnt you. useful for WSG in lower lvls for flag running 9if you know my little secrets
You've obviously never seen a mage played well. I'd love to hear your 'little secrets' because they're probably widely known tactics beoynd 'lower levels'. They have invaluable counterspell and CC abilities, which you completely neglect to mention.
rogue- does its job and well, probably the most balanced end game class (or was when i was playing) was a complete killer. sadly they killed lowe lvl pvp with twinking. one of the only classes that is not completely obselete by druids.
Again you're talking about lower level battlegrounds, where most classes are not fleshed out, and people usually don't know what they're doing. Hardly indicative of class balance. Rogues twinked out are good in battlegrounds, yes, but so are the other classes.
Pally- ish and ish, don't know too much about them however i do know they fucked up warriors for a long time with heal tanking.
Heal tanking, lol. Yeah, great if not feared, silenced, stunned, shield slammed or suffering from spell pushback (stuff warriors get btw)
huntard- waht the fu*k? I am not sure weather it is the class or the people playing the class that make this the most annoying class below druids. They can DPS, and do alot of hurty things but wait,they get a pet aswell? the pet can DPS (averagely) and do some nasty things then he huntard can heal them. Unfair alot and they are horrible to play with, most huntard players think like "my pet can tank, I can DPS and I'll heal my pet... one man army FT
A DPS class that can DPS, surely not? The pet is easily crowd controllable and the hunter is pretty vunerable. Sure, the pet can be annoying especially to other players but when you consider they are essentially rogues without stealth or mages without survivability tools, there is a balance here.
Shammy- love the shammy, say no to one and die, not through skill, through frosh shock. Shaman is great but it is an unbalanced class in its self. all the shocks are obselete to frost shock as with all the weapon enchants. Simmy-shamans were great in all 3 ways though which makes them ok
So rogues are overpowered, druids are overpowered, shamans are overpowered, hunters are overpowered, paladins are overpowered... I'm guessing the class you played the most was the most underpowered class right? I call bs tbh.
priest- no one needs one. sadly druid and shaman does it better (goes druid, Shaman then pally or priest). If you go shadow you are still wanted to heal and sadly everyone goes shadow. healing as a priest is so inefective compared to druids.
Absolutely wrong. The healing classes all have different styles of heals which apply to certain situations better than others.
Druids- should be WoD or World of Druidcraft. Druids can literaly make a party and beat any situation acting as DPS healer tank caster puller. no commas because they do all that. druids are undeniably the most unfair class in the game.
They can do all 3 to a certain extent, but not as well as the other classes unless they specialize specifically in that area in terms of gear and spec, thus making their other abilities insignificant on terms of the power curve in relation to other players.
Loc- great class and a tad unfair and over powered in some situations. like the preist, screaming like a little girl is effective at doing the job and pissing everyone off.
The "warlocks are just about chain fear" argument is as wrong today as it has ever been.
So lets recap shall we?
WARLOCKS ARE OVERPOWERED. - "THEY PISS EVERYONE OFF"
DRUIDS ARE OVERPOWERED - "THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING""
PRIESTS ARE OVERPOWERED - "THEY NEED NOONE!"
"HUNTARDS" ARE OVERPOWERED AND "THEY ARE DPS AND THEY GET A PET TOO!"
SHAMMY ARE OVERPOWERED - "FROST SHOCK IS OP!"
ROGUES ARE BALANCED!! - "I PLAYED ONE!"
PALADINS ARE OK!!
WARRIORS TANK GREAT ! BUT THEY CANT DPS!
What do you think the point of having different classes is? Why are you basing you opinions on level 19 warsong gulch? All of those classes, they can't be all over powered, that's not possible. Have you ever seen a retri paladin, a fury warrior, a frost mage, a moonkin druid, a discipline priest, an affliction warlock? And then have you seen a holy paladin, an arms warrior, an arcane mage, a feral druid, a holy priest, and a destruction warlock?
A feral druid vs arms warrior fight is played completely differently than a restro druid vs prot / arms warrior (contrary to popular belief, some of the least popular specs are actually pretty brutal in PvP if geared and played well to acommodate them).
It generally takes at least one year to properly learn and understand all of the class combinations throughout the levels, and how they compare vs all the other combinations and THEN it takes time to master played those classes in BGs / arenas / dungeons / raids - different tactics for each.
It is impossible for a single player such as yourself having only played for 'several months' to think they know about class balance.
Bottom line: Every single one of those classes depends SOLELY on the skill and the foresight of the player behind the class. You show me an "underpowered" class, i can show you a youtube video of them kicking ass in any area of the game, if specced for that area.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Ok, its not an absolute review, kill me.
I only got to play RF for about a week and a bit before my computer died. from the time I played it had awesome graphics and design, insane PVP and a pretty good skill system. Just a FTP that was a bit more fun that the rest but mainly had great designs that make you want to get the next bit of armour etc bleah bleah bleah
anyway
I think I said stopped playing 3 patches ago or so. If I did not then sorry.
I stand by waht i said, fury warriors are cool as all hell howqever get PWNT easily (sadly) and MB warriors are one trick *******!!!! who are useful but heck, i found em useless when you can have a rogue or any other class.
Huntards are huntards, i stand by what i said.
Mages are my favourite class. they are severely underpowered (or when i played) and my loverly frost mage was the most annoying force ever on the feild. Still underpowered but I must admit thinking into it, Mages are better than i give em credit for. and those little tricks, jeeze! If you realy care THAT much, you run around in circles in the middle of the feild spamming aoe's and mage sheild and FS till you die. works realy well because all pets start attacking you and alot of players, combind with a well timed blink sometimes you can win a round with two mages running about. never was game to try it at later lvls though. also, mages can run the flag if you sneak around the far edges and save your blink for when you could be in troudle, you pick it up quickly. get caught then FN and blink, once you are out use your clever team macro 9make it in advance) so they know you are in trouble and have the flag. I won alot of early lvl WSG wit this and at later lvls i was raiding more and running my guild alot more.
I only played WoW for a bit and it is messed with class balance. even after the patches it is messed. One of the best MMO's out there however I don't like it. now i'm sick of typing.
Edit// Just read something, I am saying most classes are overpowered, Warriors are underpowered, as tanks they are probably better than druids given however compare a druids healing to a preists and a druid will be much more useful.
played WoW, GW, RO, MS, Thang, RS, RAKION, PWI, Atlantica Online, FlyFF, RF (I'll miss RF) and a fiew more.
Now that is just the problem of Wow.
Wow 2008 doesn't resemble Wow of 2007, 2006 etc....
Best patch for me was the 2.3 patch. Did fine tune all the classes of TBC and introduced magnificent concepts like the daily quests which resulted in downgrading the grind feeling a LOT.
Why ? because it lets the players choose HOW they play in a daily form.
Wow only starts really in its end game play (although the level up is very good), but the game is a blast to play in its rich sources of end game play that suits the individual player.
WOTLK brings world PvP up to a new level (with mobile siege engines, tanks, air combat and destructable keeps) and with the choice of raiding the whole content with 10 men groups, the PVE content will be much more explored in Raids by everyone.
So that's what I always complain about: people play (mostly not even till the raids/arena/professional end levels) and then they would like to give a review of a game in a state it was in 1 year or even 2 years ago !!!
Wow is NOT like those other MMO's, it is constantly adapted and tuned.
11 monhs ago the concept of DAiLY awarded open world PvP and BG's quests was introduced WITH EXPERIENCE bonuses and still some people think you don't get experience by doing BG's or open world PvP.
So giving it a 9 for an experience of one year ago (3 patches have past since then) is rather good actually.
I hope you realize that druids can't be every class. They can pick to be one and be as good as another class, but they can't be a warrior and a priest at the same time.
My moonkin is a good caster, nearly as good as my mage. When my moonkin tries to heal an instance, he is noticably inferior to a priest healer. My other druid is a bear tank (warrior), but he absolutly can't heal for crap, he can turn into cat and do decent dps, but considerably less than a rogue. A druid can be a great healer, but it will be terrible at dps in cat form and will not be able to really dps as a caster even (not nearly as good as a mage or moonkin). That is the basic philosphy of a hybrid.. you can pick one area and be almost as good as the main class at that one thing, and then do all the other things way less effectively.
Druids and Paladins are in a unique position though.. if you get eveyrone to spec properly, you can do a 5 man instance with just druids or just pallys.
On the classes, I think too little information is given to show a true understanding of any of the classes. I agree there is imbalance, but not in the way to say it. Calling Hunters Huntards is not the way to make a point. When you said "heal tanking" for pallys, I laughed, but I am pretty sure you mean AoE tanking, which pallys can do to hold more than one mob with less effort than a warrior or druid due to consecration. As for healers, each is useful in its own situation. Druids, Shaman, and Pallys specialize in their own areas, Druids are great for HoTs, Shaman have good aoe heals, and pallys have (if I am not mistaken) the most mana efficient heal in the game. Priests can do everything, but do match the others in what they do best. Priests have a HoT, they have AoE heals, they have quick and slow heals-they are useful in a wide range of situations while the other heals can usually only fit into a few.
When it comes to PvP, I think the only true imbalance comes from Resto druids having so much survivability. However, as the size of the group gets larger, the Resto druid gets weaker, since they mostly rely on HoTs (they have swiftmend for those large heals in form), more dmg is hard to keep up with.
I'm a little wary of how far you really made it in this game, you complain that you found out you were on a pve server, yet you really did not go into much pvp detail (something I assume you like from your take on a pve server) aside from class balance. You only talk about WSG, and don't mention arenas, or city raids (which I do know happen on PvE servers)
On that note, I do agree with the overall sentiment of the review. I left the game mostly because of the shift of a PvE game to a game balance and design around arenas, Blizzard's little child that can do no wrong.
aye to all of that. Absolutely right about the updates, when i played it did change a fiar bit in the short time, it was mainly for every other class (and they nerfed warriors two times!). However, in every update the whole class imbalance was never fixed and I realy don't think they have fixed it yet.
I personaly don't think WoW is much of a grind fest, not enough if you ask me. Quests were plentiful, killing mobs was like 40 instead of 1700 so you could have a fun battle with every individual mob however it was a quest or a quest, grinding was inefective, completely. Some like that and I thought it was almost genious however sometimes, when you don't feel like questing, it get kind of annoying. The ammount of content and variety (compared to every other MMO) was great witrh quests and I suppose grinding on instances kind of counts.
Endgame PVP? never got to it, fun in WSG and AB however I never got to do the big raids or the like. My cousin and Uncle are complete wowtards and i got to play a bit on their characters and It was great fun however it takes so long to get the next bit of gear in the sets sometimes (dependant on guild/individual skill lvl) it almost becaome pointless.
AND ANOTHER THING!!!!
I loved the WoW graphics, it all looked great and realistic looking graphics suck so bad because it gets so boring. WoW graphics rate very high for me. I can understand how 3k+ PC users or applefags may find it dissapointing however it works very well... bar gnomes, NE being eyebrowless, UD with crap hair, humans looking like tards (mage humans don't look to bad same with warriors and pallys) Trollz with... trolls.
anyway, WoW is great, good enough for the cash but it turns you off badly sometimes.
played WoW, GW, RO, MS, Thang, RS, RAKION, PWI, Atlantica Online, FlyFF, RF (I'll miss RF) and a fiew more.
Hmm i never feel like i'm grinding, then again i have fun everytime i play -shrugs-
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
All in all i give this "review" a 0/10 beacuse i dought he played wow.
*Side note* Rf online is bad very bad so bad they went from p2p to f2p.
Lol, was going to post something similar myself. Awful review by the OP, obviously still a newbie to the game.
wow, that guy gave his honest review, and now your flaming him for it?? dude you obviously play to much wow and no 100% about all the classes dont you?, you just no so much more then anyone else?? just because he doesnt like the game doesnt mean you should flame him for it?? jeeze you need to get outside and discover that wow is not the be all and end all of life.
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lets all read top to bottom shall we?
I like WoW, i just quit
I don't have much money as i am a trainee Pharmacist so my money is limited on entertainment, look at my sig, one out of all of those games you pay money per month to play.
again, if you read the whole post i said I did not get much of a chance to raid and that all classes are about equal to play in one bar priests who DO get out healed easily, getting a priest to 70 without going evildarklydoomy I think would be impossible without a constant party.
saying it is my review is my experiences playing and the general view of my guild and friends and my observations. If you have a fury warrior who kills druids for breakfast, good for you, it does not happen much though because of the imbalance towards warriors (the imbalance i played with) which is not as bad today.
Huntards i said were a fair bit ovberpowered which they still kind of are, anyway, its just a breif explination.
never said it was a grind, i said getting your armour sets at endgame is a complete grind. Giving i should have structured that paragraph better, general dist of it:
WoW has the best grind of any MMO I have ever played, it is fun to do and worth while.
Getting armour takes way too long for some people. I have a cousin who is still in teir 4 and has been playing for a while now and is fairly good however his guild is not as good so he cannot easily get better armour. Thats the only grind i said was annoying.
i like everyones view however could we please be a little more evident?
and i am not going to ANY links. Don't care about viruseses and that crap, i am just way too lazy.
played WoW, GW, RO, MS, Thang, RS, RAKION, PWI, Atlantica Online, FlyFF, RF (I'll miss RF) and a fiew more.
Yet another WoW review from a person who isnt even currently plaing WoW, and obviously hasnt played all the classes. If you think the Shamans most powerful asset is frost shock you have never played a shaman. And as a Shaman I can give most classes (warlocks will kick the crap out of me) a good run their money, it really isnt the class it's how you play it. I will agree that the gear grind sucks but I find that most people who make that kind of statement (me included) dont have the time or desire to sit and grind for the gear. I have played WoW since it first hit the store shelves and I wouldnt be so bold to give a review on every class and every aspect of the game, the game changes a bit with every patch and with every person you run into.
for all people complaining about the shaman, earth shock is good for canceling spells, fire shock is useless, i tihnk it was earth or frost did more or just slightly under instantly. either way frost shock does lotsa damage for a shock, earth shock is good for stopping spells and fire shock is crap. i have played, hence why i am writing a review.
this is not a negative review, even though it focuses on the annoying aspects. Just like a caution on the side of a box of painkillers, it is cautionary but take it anyway because it is good. WoW has its problems but it is still great for any MMO gamer... except the casual one :P
people complain about grind which WoW only has at the end game are stupid.
and STFU, if i was playing WoW I would not be writing a review picking on some little aspects of it. the little aspects would make me quit then i would write a review anyway.
played WoW, GW, RO, MS, Thang, RS, RAKION, PWI, Atlantica Online, FlyFF, RF (I'll miss RF) and a fiew more.
If I had played WoW when it came out I probably would have enjoyed it. However I was deep into Everquest hardcore raiding at the time and was loving every minute.
By the time I quit EQ I was tired of that style of play. I moved around looking for a new MMO and ended up trying most. WoW was one of the last ones I tried and I absolutely hated it.
WoW is very lame. It is basically a gameplay ripoff of EQ and a lore ripoff of Warhammer. If you never played a MMO before then WoW is probably a good game for you but once you have done a few MMO's then you realize how pathetic WoW truly is.
Almost every MMO out is better than WoW. The reason WoW is so succusseful is because it runs on the crappiest machines. So any retard can play and unfortunately does.
One of the worst things about WoW is the community. The playerbase for WoW represents all the people who have enough neurons to turn on a computer but that is about it. If you have half a brain then you are smart enough to play better games, if you are subhuman then WoW is for you.
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There is no war in World of BoreCraft
Again so many things wrong..Flame shock useless >.< throw it on rogues so they pop there CoS or so they cant stealth or vanish or just for the dot damage..You said you have a cousin in t4 and its hard to get gear but he is good..No its not hard to get gear and if you still use t4 this late into the TBC then your horrible. New badge gear/Za gear is soooo easy to get even if your guild i stuck doing kara runs thats still what 22 badges aweek? you can have better gear,,It "may be a grind" for people that expect to be handed free gear. which is why They have welfare epics now.
"Huntards" ???
When I saw that I stopped reading. Is everthing a "tard" that you dont like ??