The big news that I was told I can share with the community is that OPEN beta will be FINISHED by the start of December and release will follow soon after. So… stay on your toes.
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and early december. I dont ever recall a quote about release in 08, merely the gamepaly video stating "Coming 2008", which possibly meant beta, considering it was a beta video. Oh, and they said beta would end in early december (quite vague, something that should be expected from Aventurine). I think they will release in Q1 09, though...Aventurine will release a game, whether good or bad, sooner or later. From the MMORPG Italia preview and beta quotes, it will be good too
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"OPEN beta will be FINISHED by the start of December" linky edit: december starts in 49 hours.
post you are referring to was made on oct 16th, theres a post on the 31st that says open beta will end in early december.. that really doesnt mean anything either since they can post tomorrow and change it to early february.. but the open beta ending before december starts is out.
the start of december Is early december. therefore the second statement does not contractdict the previous. the first state has yet to be contradicted or nullified, therefor we have been lied to.
but meh, I'll just remake this thread mid december if you like.
the start of december Is early december. therefore the second statement does not contractdict the previous. the first state has yet to be contradicted or nullified, therefor we have been lied to.
but meh, I'll just remake this thread mid december if you like.
The start of December says "Dec 1", or maybe the first few days, to me. Early December I see as covering more time, even up to the 15th. As usual, Aventurine prefers the term with the most wiggle room.
I dont think we are likely to see the couple weeks of open beta that Aventurine said we would. At this rate, we would be fortunate to see a couple days...unless they do the unthinkable and delay release. I believe they will do another version of unthinkable, and just drop the game on us with minimal public testing.
the start of december Is early december. therefore the second statement does not contractdict the previous. the first state has yet to be contradicted or nullified, therefor we have been lied to.
but meh, I'll just remake this thread mid december if you like.
As concerned as I am about Darkfall's release at this point, the quote that you provided was from Shaar. Shaar is merely a fan as far as I know; he is not Aventurine staff. Also, I believe that English is not his first language, so you can see how he might not have used the best words. Hell, he could have simply misunderstood.
Be sure to give this thread a bump in mid December though...
Shaar is merely a fan as far as I know; he is not Aventurine staff.
Shaar is retired Aventurine Community Staff. You can expect he got the info directly from devs and you can expect he got the best answer at the time. Of course, he could have misunderstood, I just doubt it.
Shaar is merely a fan as far as I know; he is not Aventurine staff.
Shaar is retired Aventurine Community Staff. You can expect he got the info directly from devs and you can expect he got the best answer at the time. Of course, he could have misunderstood, I just doubt it.
Those that say the Dev's never lie or deceive have to start trying out different excuses so that when we go past the date with even the most wiggle room that they can see which excuse has the best chance of flying.
Let's face it...
Considering no game has ever released the last week in December that I am aware of... that gives them 3 weeks to hold OPEN Beta and Release the game. Still doable? Oh sure... plenty of time... in fact, not sure what the big rush is.
Two possible scenarios at this point.
Release is happening in 2008... with zero (or as close to zero as you can get) public testing (as in OPEN Beta).
Release is NOT happening in 2008... the game will be delayed and thoroughly tested and everyone who wants will be given a chance to try the game before they buy it.
the start of december Is early december. therefore the second statement does not contractdict the previous. the first state has yet to be contradicted or nullified, therefor we have been lied to.
but meh, I'll just remake this thread mid december if you like.
As concerned as I am about Darkfall's release at this point, the quote that you provided was from Shaar. Shaar is merely a fan as far as I know; he is not Aventurine staff. Also, I believe that English is not his first language, so you can see how he might not have used the best words. Hell, he could have simply misunderstood.
Be sure to give this thread a bump in mid December though...
Shaar was quoting Tasos from the game conference in Greece which Aventurine hosted. Hell, even Tasos mentioned that date in the videos from the conference as well. Do your homework.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Early December probably means 1st to 10th. Mid December 11th till 20th. Late December 21th to 30th/31st. I'll give Aventurine credit for their word play. They do indeed leave alot up to ones own understanding.
Ahh, but see.
Some would question your inclusion of the Mid-December portion into the equation... there was no such mention of any "mid"... there was only beginning and early.
So, since there was only mention of beggining and early... you can only use as counter-points End and Late.
So that means the only viable way to split it up is:
Early/Beggining of December = 1st to 15th
Late/End of December = 16th to 31st
That way they get an "extra" 5 days to work with. No fair trying to cheat them out 5 days of wiggle room. And yes... they know their word play.
Early December probably means 1st to 10th. Mid December 11th till 20th. Late December 21th to 30th/31st. I'll give Aventurine credit for their word play. They do indeed leave alot up to ones own understanding.
Ahh, but see.
Some would question your inclusion of the Mid-December portion into the equation... there was no such mention of any "mid"... there was only beginning and early.
So, since there was only mention of beggining and early... you can only use as counter-points End and Late.
So that means the only viable way to split it up is:
Early/Beggining of December = 1st to 15th
Late/End of December = 16th to 31st
That way they get an "extra" 5 days to work with. No fair trying to cheat them out 5 days of wiggle room. And yes... they know their word play.
Technically it wouldn't be a lie if you split it like that to. Early being 1 to 15 would indeed be the beginning. While 16 to 31 would be Late which would indeed be the ending. i.e Beginning weeks/days of Decemember. Very interesting, I wonder if it's a greek thing. Because I know where I live. For the most part people consider early or beginning of a month to be the first week (1st to 7th). Even more curious to see where this goes now.
In War - Victory. In Peace - Vigilance. In Death - Sacrifice.
Early December probably means 1st to 10th. Mid December 11th till 20th. Late December 21th to 30th/31st. I'll give Aventurine credit for their word play. They do indeed leave alot up to ones own understanding.
Ahh, but see.
Some would question your inclusion of the Mid-December portion into the equation... there was no such mention of any "mid"... there was only beginning and early.
So, since there was only mention of beggining and early... you can only use as counter-points End and Late.
So that means the only viable way to split it up is:
Early/Beggining of December = 1st to 15th
Late/End of December = 16th to 31st
That way they get an "extra" 5 days to work with. No fair trying to cheat them out 5 days of wiggle room. And yes... they know their word play.
Technically it wouldn't be a lie if you split it like that to. Early being 1 to 15 would indeed be the beginning. While 16 to 31 would be Late which would indeed be the ending. i.e Beginning weeks/days of Decemember. Very interesting, I wonder if it's a greek thing. Because I know where I live. For the most part people consider early or beginning of a month to be the first week (1st to 7th). Even more curious to see where this goes now.
I agree it will be interesting indeed.
If you are really curious. Go back a few pages in the forum history and look at the posts that were started and the people that posted in them back in late September (Beta officially stated Sept. 22nd) and then again leading up to the ADW presentation as well as shortly after (from which we got the quote in question).
Then compare those posts and the tone of those posting in them to now. THAT will give you a pretty good indication.
Remember he used the word “scheduled” to end in early December, so he can get out of this one easily by just saying they are behind on this schedule without any further clarification.
This is similar to when he said earlier this year that public beta would precede launch by a “few weeks“.
But then later backtracked saying public beta would not be “two weeks” but they hoped it would only be “several weeks”, but it would be as long as needed.
The thing that is much harder for Tasos and Aventurine to get out of is this official company commitment to launch within 2008 that is not a guestimate, they have mentioned this several times and on the 17 min video also.
What’s makes it even harder to get out of is their previous statements saying they would not announce a date as only a goal or one that they would then miss, postpone, or be forced to release unfinished to meet.
Not to mention they have also said they are “resolved” to stick with their release date and theirs no way they would miss their release date.
A very sticky position to be in, of course only people who have actually read or remember what Aventurine have said exactly over the past year concerning beta and release will appreciate this.
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The big news that I was told I can share with the community is that OPEN beta will be FINISHED by the start of December and release will follow soon after. So… stay on your toes.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
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and early december. I dont ever recall a quote about release in 08, merely the gamepaly video stating "Coming 2008", which possibly meant beta, considering it was a beta video. Oh, and they said beta would end in early december (quite vague, something that should be expected from Aventurine). I think they will release in Q1 09, though...Aventurine will release a game, whether good or bad, sooner or later. From the MMORPG Italia preview and beta quotes, it will be good too
DARKFALL 09!
Apparently 08 didn't make it
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i have yet to see an open beta...how can it end when it didnt begin?
yes indeed. that is the irony.
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Poor Brannoc. Didn't he post here for a while, maybe a year ago?
post you are referring to was made on oct 16th, theres a post on the 31st that says open beta will end in early december.. that really doesnt mean anything either since they can post tomorrow and change it to early february.. but the open beta ending before december starts is out.
the start of december Is early december. therefore the second statement does not contractdict the previous. the first state has yet to be contradicted or nullified, therefor we have been lied to.
but meh, I'll just remake this thread mid december if you like.
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HAHAHA...10/10
Guess we will find out in a few days.
~HappyGaming
Tasos already back-pedaled from the start of December to "early December" here -
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=77544
The start of December says "Dec 1", or maybe the first few days, to me. Early December I see as covering more time, even up to the 15th. As usual, Aventurine prefers the term with the most wiggle room.
I dont think we are likely to see the couple weeks of open beta that Aventurine said we would. At this rate, we would be fortunate to see a couple days...unless they do the unthinkable and delay release. I believe they will do another version of unthinkable, and just drop the game on us with minimal public testing.
As concerned as I am about Darkfall's release at this point, the quote that you provided was from Shaar. Shaar is merely a fan as far as I know; he is not Aventurine staff. Also, I believe that English is not his first language, so you can see how he might not have used the best words. Hell, he could have simply misunderstood.
Be sure to give this thread a bump in mid December though...
Early December is when open beta is supposed to be over. Expect some news from Dec 1-10.
Shaar is retired Aventurine Community Staff. You can expect he got the info directly from devs and you can expect he got the best answer at the time. Of course, he could have misunderstood, I just doubt it.
Shaar is retired Aventurine Community Staff. You can expect he got the info directly from devs and you can expect he got the best answer at the time. Of course, he could have misunderstood, I just doubt it.
Those that say the Dev's never lie or deceive have to start trying out different excuses so that when we go past the date with even the most wiggle room that they can see which excuse has the best chance of flying.
Let's face it...
Considering no game has ever released the last week in December that I am aware of... that gives them 3 weeks to hold OPEN Beta and Release the game. Still doable? Oh sure... plenty of time... in fact, not sure what the big rush is.
Two possible scenarios at this point.
Release is happening in 2008... with zero (or as close to zero as you can get) public testing (as in OPEN Beta).
Release is NOT happening in 2008... the game will be delayed and thoroughly tested and everyone who wants will be given a chance to try the game before they buy it.
Been following DarkFall long?
As concerned as I am about Darkfall's release at this point, the quote that you provided was from Shaar. Shaar is merely a fan as far as I know; he is not Aventurine staff. Also, I believe that English is not his first language, so you can see how he might not have used the best words. Hell, he could have simply misunderstood.
Be sure to give this thread a bump in mid December though...
Shaar was quoting Tasos from the game conference in Greece which Aventurine hosted. Hell, even Tasos mentioned that date in the videos from the conference as well. Do your homework.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Early December probably means 1st to 10th.
Mid December 11th till 20th.
Late December 21th to 30th/31st.
I'll give Aventurine credit for their word play. They do indeed leave alot up to ones own understanding.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
I love people that are un-informed trying to make a point lol.
Quote from Tasos 10-31-2008 4:56pm "The announcement during ADW was that the open beta phase is scheduled to end early in December."
http://forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php?t=77544 <---- Source.
Yes Shaar did say beggining of December. Tasos said Early December.
So sorry they have a bit more than 49 hours lol.
Ahh, but see.
Some would question your inclusion of the Mid-December portion into the equation... there was no such mention of any "mid"... there was only beginning and early.
So, since there was only mention of beggining and early... you can only use as counter-points End and Late.
So that means the only viable way to split it up is:
Early/Beggining of December = 1st to 15th
Late/End of December = 16th to 31st
That way they get an "extra" 5 days to work with. No fair trying to cheat them out 5 days of wiggle room. And yes... they know their word play.
Ahh, but see.
Some would question your inclusion of the Mid-December portion into the equation... there was no such mention of any "mid"... there was only beginning and early.
So, since there was only mention of beggining and early... you can only use as counter-points End and Late.
So that means the only viable way to split it up is:
Early/Beggining of December = 1st to 15th
Late/End of December = 16th to 31st
That way they get an "extra" 5 days to work with. No fair trying to cheat them out 5 days of wiggle room. And yes... they know their word play.
Technically it wouldn't be a lie if you split it like that to. Early being 1 to 15 would indeed be the beginning. While 16 to 31 would be Late which would indeed be the ending. i.e Beginning weeks/days of Decemember. Very interesting, I wonder if it's a greek thing. Because I know where I live. For the most part people consider early or beginning of a month to be the first week (1st to 7th). Even more curious to see where this goes now.
In War - Victory.
In Peace - Vigilance.
In Death - Sacrifice.
Ahh, but see.
Some would question your inclusion of the Mid-December portion into the equation... there was no such mention of any "mid"... there was only beginning and early.
So, since there was only mention of beggining and early... you can only use as counter-points End and Late.
So that means the only viable way to split it up is:
Early/Beggining of December = 1st to 15th
Late/End of December = 16th to 31st
That way they get an "extra" 5 days to work with. No fair trying to cheat them out 5 days of wiggle room. And yes... they know their word play.
Technically it wouldn't be a lie if you split it like that to. Early being 1 to 15 would indeed be the beginning. While 16 to 31 would be Late which would indeed be the ending. i.e Beginning weeks/days of Decemember. Very interesting, I wonder if it's a greek thing. Because I know where I live. For the most part people consider early or beginning of a month to be the first week (1st to 7th). Even more curious to see where this goes now.
I agree it will be interesting indeed.
If you are really curious. Go back a few pages in the forum history and look at the posts that were started and the people that posted in them back in late September (Beta officially stated Sept. 22nd) and then again leading up to the ADW presentation as well as shortly after (from which we got the quote in question).
Then compare those posts and the tone of those posting in them to now. THAT will give you a pretty good indication.
for those who havent realised this yet
/feed
There is plenty of time. Open beta is already running... in Greece.
DFO will hit Greece markets on Xmas Eve, Santa Klaus Toy Factory as publisher.
Remember he used the word “scheduled” to end in early December, so he can get out of this one easily by just saying they are behind on this schedule without any further clarification.
This is similar to when he said earlier this year that public beta would precede launch by a “few weeks“.
But then later backtracked saying public beta would not be “two weeks” but they hoped it would only be “several weeks”, but it would be as long as needed.
The thing that is much harder for Tasos and Aventurine to get out of is this official company commitment to launch within 2008 that is not a guestimate, they have mentioned this several times and on the 17 min video also.
What’s makes it even harder to get out of is their previous statements saying they would not announce a date as only a goal or one that they would then miss, postpone, or be forced to release unfinished to meet.
Not to mention they have also said they are “resolved” to stick with their release date and theirs no way they would miss their release date.
A very sticky position to be in, of course only people who have actually read or remember what Aventurine have said exactly over the past year concerning beta and release will appreciate this.