Guess you guys forgot about the whole we'll launch in 2008 promise eh? Yep chalk one up for the skeptics on that one. Didn't make launch, broke another promise how many more are you willing to take before that victory dance becomes the sad fat kid that plays DDR in the mall?
most of the fans didnt think was was going to launch all i said was beta really i thought maybe open beta too but not really sure about that
By allowing the community to draw their own conclusions, you are opening the door for hype and thus disappointment.
You're absolutely correct.
This is not to say that I disagree with keeping secrecy because quite frankly, after seeing how players are and seeing all the nda breaking, if I had a game company I wouldn't let any info out until I was actually done with the game or ready for beta (knowing full well people will lead).
I think it's too hard for game companies to deal with players. If they want to cut something, even right before beta they should have the right to do it. If they want to change it they should as well. I wonder how many products we have bought where the design was change many times because the initial plans just didn't work. Seems that games have a hard time with this.
This announcement is good because it shows people that a small game company can strike out and make a game their own way.
However, in some ways it's bad because, as you pointed out, there is already a lot of hype. There are people who really do believe, without actually trying the game or a large consensus giving opinions, that this game is going to be the most amazing thing ever.
Well... it "might" be. I hope so for all the people who play. However I think they should mitigate their expectations because you know you are going to see things like "hey, there are fed ex quests" and "hey, there are areas that don't seem finished" and many more possibilites.
Just take the game at it's face value, is what I say.
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Guess you guys forgot about the whole we'll launch in 2008 promise eh? Yep chalk one up for the skeptics on that one. Didn't make launch, broke another promise how many more are you willing to take before that victory dance becomes the sad fat kid that plays DDR in the mall?
Actually, DDR is a great game for getting people in shape. Good for the fat kid!!!
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Guess you guys forgot about the whole we'll launch in 2008 promise eh? Yep chalk one up for the skeptics on that one. Didn't make launch, broke another promise how many more are you willing to take before that victory dance becomes the sad fat kid that plays DDR in the mall?
F A B U L O U S ...... I still dont see any promises.
I think Aventurine went about teh right way on this, by invoking this veil of 'secrecy' and by not hyping it up so uch, He has given us sneak peeks at the game, and allowed the community to draw their own conclusions. As we have seen from AoC and WAR launch is the hype was too much for the game to live upto, everyone had such high expectations, the Beta testing resulted in such negatory comments about the game and (in teh case of AoC) failed to live up to its promises. By simply outlining what the game will include and enforcing such a strict NDA to the current testers the mystique of the game is maintained. This game (and indeed Aventurine) have the potential to change the way games are 'exposed' prior to launch, this game will find itself in the same market as EvE, a PvP FFA that appeals to a broad base of players, for many this will be the first time they play something that doesnt involve powerlevling to max level and then constant raiding. I personally am awaiting the next 6 weeks with baited breath, My cupboards will be stocked with food and snacks, my phone will be off the hook and my TV disconnected and Darkfall installed and ready to go (hopefully!!) on 22nd January
By allowing the community to draw their own conclusions, you are opening the door for hype and thus disappointment.
That is still better than showing tons of gameplay advertisments which decieve. This way if their game is genuinly as good as they promiss or to the extent most are hoping for, then the game will have a great last. Hype by word is much better than by image because of all the extra speculation, but of course it is risky if you dont have a good game to present at the end of the day, that goes with just about hmmm every game that gets hype in existance.....
The only thing that could hurt darkfall right now is if it launched broken and crappy/bugged. Which if that happens it deserves to fail, but you should only truly beleive it wil be that terrible if you are a complete naysayer of everything that is DF. I for one beleive to the extent that when tasos goes over and over saying this game is more polished than most games at the same point, it is likely true, especially with the small reviews that have been made.
But I would never call you a naysayer Arcken, we all know you luvy wuvy DF
who cares about a Eurpoean Launch Date when will it launch in North America. I dont want to play on EU servers... Damn now I know how most EU feels when a mmo launches.
I'm sure as soon as they can figure out what to rename the game, it'll launch in NA.
Best of luck to the Darkfall people. Been a long and uncertain wait, and I hope both players and developers will be happy with the result and customer numbers. :-)
While I have been following the progress of this game for some time I doubt that I will be playing it any time soon. The problem...the EU servers. You see, I am one of those "Americans" that won't have a server at launch. While I have heard many statements saying "lag should not be a problem" I simply will not believe it until I see if for myself. To that end, I will not be playing Darkfall unless they offer a free trial. If they do, I will try it and determine for myself if the EU server location is does in fact cause play problems. If Darkfall does provide a free trial period (which I believe they have promised) then I will be there.
Good luck to you folks in the EU. Hope the game is as good as promised.
Nice, this is good news for the Darkfall followers. Only thing that bothers me is the way the give out information. Instead of posting a thread or making a news topic about thier recent promises and not living up to them and then adding this news ontop of it, they just moved onto this news. Not that it really matters, it just seems like the easy way out. And this is something they have done quite often. Not to say other companies don't do this, but with tasos being so defensive, I would of expected more from him on the subject. Oh well, gl Darkfall, and hopefully this is your last pushback. See ya in game sooooooooooon .....
Best of luck to the Darkfall people. Been a long and uncertain wait, and I hope both players and developers will be happy with the result and customer numbers. :-)
Thx for your kind words ive been waiting more then 5 years for this game:)
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009..... In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
heh sucked in North America. Guess you can't be the centre of attention all the time. You know, depending on how big the player base is i may just play on an EU server.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds -Solid non level based game -Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
i'd rather liked an open beta release... rofl--- i hope they let us try this game B4 thinking on release it lol..
yep quote from tasos
*To this I can say now, that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be inside 2008, with the public beta preceding it by a few weeks*
how many weeks in jan till the 22nd? a few weeks : )
so they could start public beta this month probly closer to the end of it tho
i'd rather liked an open beta release... rofl--- i hope they let us try this game B4 thinking on release it lol..
yep quote from tasos
*To this I can say now, that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be inside 2008, with the public beta preceding it by a few weeks*
how many weeks in jan till the 22nd? a few weeks : )
so they could start public beta this month probly closer to the end of it tho
Guess you guys forgot about the whole we'll launch in 2008 promise eh? Yep chalk one up for the skeptics on that one. Didn't make launch, broke another promise how many more are you willing to take before that victory dance becomes the sad fat kid that plays DDR in the mall?
No one forgot. It was their FIRST promise they sort of broke by 22 days.
But guess what?
We are all too mature to care!!!!
Big milestone and the ACTUAL gamers are excited that a game from an indie has the chance to break the mold and bring some new life to the genre. We will see if they succeed on the 22nd of January.
Until then lighten up and just own up, because you were definitely one of the people spewing vaporware all over the forums.
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
Guess you guys forgot about the whole we'll launch in 2008 promise eh? Yep chalk one up for the skeptics on that one. Didn't make launch, broke another promise how many more are you willing to take before that victory dance becomes the sad fat kid that plays DDR in the mall?
No one forgot. It was their FIRST promise they sort of broke by 22 days.
But guess what?
We are all too mature to care!!!!
Big milestone and the ACTUAL gamers are excited that a game from an indie has the chance to break the mold and bring some new life to the genre. We will see if they succeed on the 22nd of January.
Until then lighten up and just own up, because you were definitely one of the people spewing vaporware all over the forums.
probly see a few weeks before that with the public beta which should tell us if its ready for release or not but if it needs more work still we dont force them to release we make them keep public beta open a bit longer to fix any issues
So it'll soon be time to discover if this is the game of the century :P hehe
I CANT WAIT ! :P
Huh the century has just begun. There are still 92 years before the end of the 21 century so maibe you should say ''the game of the decade''... something like that will be more appropriate.
Still if the game brought all features they have annouce.
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Yay Darkfall !!!
Good luck guys. I hope you have a good launch. Hopefully our Euro brothers will throw up some nice screenshots and videos for North America
I'm not sure what to expect from this game. But maybe that is half the fun in anticipating it. I'll give this and Chronicles of Spellborn a try.
most of the fans didnt think was was going to launch all i said was beta really i thought maybe open beta too but not really sure about that
You're absolutely correct.
This is not to say that I disagree with keeping secrecy because quite frankly, after seeing how players are and seeing all the nda breaking, if I had a game company I wouldn't let any info out until I was actually done with the game or ready for beta (knowing full well people will lead).
I think it's too hard for game companies to deal with players. If they want to cut something, even right before beta they should have the right to do it. If they want to change it they should as well. I wonder how many products we have bought where the design was change many times because the initial plans just didn't work. Seems that games have a hard time with this.
This announcement is good because it shows people that a small game company can strike out and make a game their own way.
However, in some ways it's bad because, as you pointed out, there is already a lot of hype. There are people who really do believe, without actually trying the game or a large consensus giving opinions, that this game is going to be the most amazing thing ever.
Well... it "might" be. I hope so for all the people who play. However I think they should mitigate their expectations because you know you are going to see things like "hey, there are fed ex quests" and "hey, there are areas that don't seem finished" and many more possibilites.
Just take the game at it's face value, is what I say.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
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F A B U L O U S
Actually, DDR is a great game for getting people in shape. Good for the fat kid!!!
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
By allowing the community to draw their own conclusions, you are opening the door for hype and thus disappointment.
That is still better than showing tons of gameplay advertisments which decieve. This way if their game is genuinly as good as they promiss or to the extent most are hoping for, then the game will have a great last. Hype by word is much better than by image because of all the extra speculation, but of course it is risky if you dont have a good game to present at the end of the day, that goes with just about hmmm every game that gets hype in existance.....
The only thing that could hurt darkfall right now is if it launched broken and crappy/bugged. Which if that happens it deserves to fail, but you should only truly beleive it wil be that terrible if you are a complete naysayer of everything that is DF. I for one beleive to the extent that when tasos goes over and over saying this game is more polished than most games at the same point, it is likely true, especially with the small reviews that have been made.
But I would never call you a naysayer Arcken, we all know you luvy wuvy DF
I'm sure as soon as they can figure out what to rename the game, it'll launch in NA.
Best of luck to the Darkfall people. Been a long and uncertain wait, and I hope both players and developers will be happy with the result and customer numbers. :-)
While I have been following the progress of this game for some time I doubt that I will be playing it any time soon. The problem...the EU servers. You see, I am one of those "Americans" that won't have a server at launch. While I have heard many statements saying "lag should not be a problem" I simply will not believe it until I see if for myself. To that end, I will not be playing Darkfall unless they offer a free trial. If they do, I will try it and determine for myself if the EU server location is does in fact cause play problems. If Darkfall does provide a free trial period (which I believe they have promised) then I will be there.
Good luck to you folks in the EU. Hope the game is as good as promised.
Let's party like it is 1863!
Great news cant wait for this !
So a little over a month and we will see if this game is worth the years of hype and drama.
Nice, this is good news for the Darkfall followers. Only thing that bothers me is the way the give out information. Instead of posting a thread or making a news topic about thier recent promises and not living up to them and then adding this news ontop of it, they just moved onto this news. Not that it really matters, it just seems like the easy way out. And this is something they have done quite often. Not to say other companies don't do this, but with tasos being so defensive, I would of expected more from him on the subject. Oh well, gl Darkfall, and hopefully this is your last pushback. See ya in game sooooooooooon .....
Thx for your kind words ive been waiting more then 5 years for this game:)
Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.
Gratz to Adventurine! It seems your perseverence is finally paying off. I am looking forward to the game.
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So it'll soon be time to discover if this is the game of the century :P hehe
I CANT WAIT ! :P
Grats on the announcement, hope AV can bring all they said to the game with the NA launch not too far behind.
heh sucked in North America. Guess you can't be the centre of attention all the time. You know, depending on how big the player base is i may just play on an EU server.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
i'd rather liked an open beta release... rofl--- i hope they let us try this game B4 thinking on release it lol..
There is no knowledge that is no power.
yep quote from tasos
*To this I can say now, that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be inside 2008, with the public beta preceding it by a few weeks*
how many weeks in jan till the 22nd? a few weeks : )
so they could start public beta this month probly closer to the end of it tho
yep quote from tasos
*To this I can say now, that during a planning meeting we determined that our launch date will be inside 2008, with the public beta preceding it by a few weeks*
how many weeks in jan till the 22nd? a few weeks : )
so they could start public beta this month probly closer to the end of it tho
thanks for the quote
There is no knowledge that is no power.
No one forgot. It was their FIRST promise they sort of broke by 22 days.
But guess what?
We are all too mature to care!!!!
Big milestone and the ACTUAL gamers are excited that a game from an indie has the chance to break the mold and bring some new life to the genre. We will see if they succeed on the 22nd of January.
Until then lighten up and just own up, because you were definitely one of the people spewing vaporware all over the forums.
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Darkfall Releases on: February 25th, 2009
Darkfall Recap of everything that has happened the last 3 months: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/213296
"The monsters are tough. I was looking for a challenge, but these things are just too damn smart." -DF Beta Tester
"If people were dismissing it, then they wouldn't be talking about it. The well-meaning gamers root for efforts that try to raise the bar. So who's left? It's so easy being a skeptic." -Tasos
No one forgot. It was their FIRST promise they sort of broke by 22 days.
But guess what?
We are all too mature to care!!!!
Big milestone and the ACTUAL gamers are excited that a game from an indie has the chance to break the mold and bring some new life to the genre. We will see if they succeed on the 22nd of January.
Until then lighten up and just own up, because you were definitely one of the people spewing vaporware all over the forums.
probly see a few weeks before that with the public beta which should tell us if its ready for release or not but if it needs more work still we dont force them to release we make them keep public beta open a bit longer to fix any issues
at least we can try
"North American players are also welcome to participate in the European launch of Darkfall which will precede a North American launch."
I'm not sure everyone saw this part, so I thought I would quote it. I'm not sure exactly what the hell that means, but it's worth noting.
Huh the century has just begun. There are still 92 years before the end of the 21 century so maibe you should say ''the game of the decade''... something like that will be more appropriate.
Still if the game brought all features they have annouce.