Well Age of Conan was as high as 6000 this weekend, more than 1200 people playing. That is equivalent to Sep/October numbers so I would not be surprised if all backflux into the game have given us between 300-400 000 subscribers. My server is hopping at least.
heh considering that when they were claiming to have 60, 000 to 800, 000 subs it was logging over 60, 000 hours per day on the weekdays I fail to see how your math works. The game might have 125Kand that is a generous estimate. Saturday the 10th ( 5933 hours) was over 250 hours higher than Saturday the 3rd ( 5676) which was good, Sunday the 4th and Sunday the 11th were too close to matter.
Just my opinion FC should be happy that the numbers have stabalized and stopped dropping. They got a nice little boost over the holidays, now all they have to do is retain those players and more shall come as server merges and content is added. Looks like FC might even pull a EvE turnaround if they play their cards right
On a side note there is no need to throw out BS numbers like 300K - 400K., all it does is make the company look like they are still BS'ing and talking out their ass. It may just be me but I think FC has learned that the gaming community values honesty and detests BS. They may have learned that the hard way but so be it.
I miss DAoC
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Jackdog
Originally posted by OrionMan
Well Age of Conan was as high as 6000 this weekend, more than 1200 people playing. That is equivalent to Sep/October numbers so I would not be surprised if all backflux into the game have given us between 300-400 000 subscribers. My server is hopping at least.
heh considering that when they were claiming to have 60, 000 to 800, 000 subs it was logging over 60, 000 hours per day on the weekdays I fail to see how your math works. The game might have 125Kand that is a generous estimate. An AoC never hit 6K it's hoghhest numbers were Sunday the 11th and they were 5795 which was 27 hours more than the previous Sunday which was 5768.
Just my opinion FC should be happy that the numbers have stabalized and stopped dropping. They got a nice little boost over the holidays, now all they have to do is retain those players and more shall come as server merges and content is added. Looks like FC might even pull a EvE turnaround if they play their cards right
Well we all know it is not the amount of hours played that contributes it is the actual amount of people itself. In that regard AoC has shot up over 300 people in last few weeks. $15 paid is still $15 whether you played for 20hrs or logged 70hrs (hardcore WoW) ( Whose to say that those extra people are family men like yourself with maybe more RL commitments?) Therefore we see more casual friendly games down the list as we do see. The most fluctuating number is obviously the amount of hours xfire shows. AoC has had steady numbers for a while now. Infact it held on to a higher proportion of players that used Xfire over a longer period than Warhammer (as an example- from release to 3 months after)
Well we all know it is not the amount of hours played that contributes it is the actual amount of people itself. In that regard AoC has shot up over 300 people in last few weeks. $15 paid is still $15 whether you played for 20hrs or logged 70hrs (hardcore WoW) ( Whose to say that those extra people are family men like yourself with maybe more RL commitments?) Therefore we see more casual friendly games down the list as we do see. The most fluctuating number is obviously the amount of hours xfire shows. AoC has had steady numbers for a while now. Infact it held on to a higher proportion of players that used Xfire over a longer period than Warhammer (as an example- from release to 3 months after)
oddly enough if you take yesterdays minutes for WoW and divided it by the number of players
30,958,115 / 106,376 you get a average played time of 291.002 minutes
then take AoC's numbers
347,694 / 1,192 you get a average played time of 291.689 minutes LOL or about 5 hours per XFire using player
Warhammer averaged 263 minutes , EvE 243 minutes, LoTRO had a average of 282 minutes per XFire player
Well we all know it is not the amount of hours played that contributes it is the actual amount of people itself. In that regard AoC has shot up over 300 people in last few weeks. $15 paid is still $15 whether you played for 20hrs or logged 70hrs (hardcore WoW) ( Whose to say that those extra people are family men like yourself with maybe more RL commitments?) Therefore we see more casual friendly games down the list as we do see. The most fluctuating number is obviously the amount of hours xfire shows. AoC has had steady numbers for a while now. Infact it held on to a higher proportion of players that used Xfire over a longer period than Warhammer (as an example- from release to 3 months after)
oddly enough if you take yesterdays minutes for WoW and divided it by the number of players
30,958,115 / 106,376 you get a average played time of 291.002 minutes
then take AoC's numbers
347,694 / 1,192 you get a average played time of 291.689 minutes LOL or about 5 hours per XFire using player
Warhammer averaged 263 minutes , EvE 243 minutes, LoTRO had a average of 282 minutes per XFire player
Personally I've been giving re-joining AoC serious thought. I always find my self returning to the point of, "Waiting for more PvE and a bit more PvP content."
Depending on the depth of the new dungeon they are working on and any forthcoming PvP upgrades I may be swayed into re-subbing. Additionally, word of any other future PvE/PvP content being released after the dungeon would definitely pique my interest.
Currently waiting for the MMO industry to put out something good.
AmazingAveryAge of Conan AdvocateMemberUncommonPosts: 7,188
Originally posted by Razephon
Additionally, word of any other future PvE/PvP content being released after the dungeon would definitely pique my interest.
I have a really good hunch that I am sure there will be an announcement coming one the patch 4 goes out or just before that this will be the case.
I keep looking though gate to Tarantia Commons wanting to go through :P
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer.
The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer. The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer. The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer. The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
*chuckle,chuckle*
More quotes "OMG AoC is dead before Christmas, OMG AoC is dead in January, OMG, OMG..." . I think you need to start and answer from some of your failed prophecies. You have in fact been wrong on all of them, but you just keep going. I read in one of the other threads that the prophecy is that the merge somehow will go wrong. LOL. Well, guess who's going to be wrong again Thursday morning? You need to chill and relax, there is no reason for why you should get so involved in the success or not of a game you don't even like and are not playing.
For the stuff you write on WAR, I agree with you it does not make sense. WAR is probably not having that much more of a playerbase than AoC and certainly not 1 M. And for your bobtalk on that AoC is even not on most peoples radar any longer, I think the activity level in the various AoC forums proves you wrong. The three most active forums in MMORPG is Darkfall, AoC and WAR. I can't really see where Aoc has dropped of the radar. lol
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer. The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
*chuckle,chuckle*
More quotes "OMG AoC is dead before Christmas, OMG AoC is dead in January, OMG, OMG..." . I think you need to start and answer from some of your failed prophecies. You have in fact been wrong on all of them, but you just keep going. I read in one of the other threads that the prophecy is that the merge somehow will go wrong. LOL. Well, guess who's going to be wrong again Thursday morning? You need to chill and relax, there is no reason for why you should get so involved in the success or not of a game you don't even like and are not playing.
For the stuff you write on WAR, I agree with you it does not make sense. WAR is probably not having that much more of a playerbase than AoC and certainly not 1 M. And for your bobtalk on that AoC is even not on most peoples radar any longer, I think the activity level in the various AoC forums proves you wrong. The three most active forums in MMORPG is Darkfall, AoC and WAR. I can't really see where Aoc has dropped of the radar. lol
I never said anything about Christmas. Again, if you are going to quote me, quote me accurately. I've said all along that Funcom will not exist as we know it by the end of January. That is my quote now, and has always been that.
The reason the 1.2M warhammer and LOTRO players does not make sense is because it is not true. AOC has about 1/4 of Warhammer, and warhammer has about 300k players.
And 'activity' doesn't mean a good thing. Darkfall is a trainwreck waiting to happen. It's just like the AOC forums.. the majority of posts are by people saying the game is failing / will fail.
I mean, read this thread on the AOC forums http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/219042 that is about 15 people all posting negative comments about AOC (with the exception of Avery of course). Activity does not mean a game is popular, it just means a lot of people come here to be entertained. I mean, seriously, some of your posts, especially the one where you said AOC was 10/10 just made me laugh out loud. Again, AOC has reached the 'insignificant' corner of MMORPGs, just like AO and Vanguard... just because people still post here to make fun of the game doesn't mean we are playing it.
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer. The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
*chuckle,chuckle*
More quotes "OMG AoC is dead before Christmas, OMG AoC is dead in January, OMG, OMG..." . I think you need to start and answer from some of your failed prophecies. You have in fact been wrong on all of them, but you just keep going. I read in one of the other threads that the prophecy is that the merge somehow will go wrong. LOL. Well, guess who's going to be wrong again Thursday morning? You need to chill and relax, there is no reason for why you should get so involved in the success or not of a game you don't even like and are not playing.
For the stuff you write on WAR, I agree with you it does not make sense. WAR is probably not having that much more of a playerbase than AoC and certainly not 1 M. And for your bobtalk on that AoC is even not on most peoples radar any longer, I think the activity level in the various AoC forums proves you wrong. The three most active forums in MMORPG is Darkfall, AoC and WAR. I can't really see where Aoc has dropped of the radar. lol
I never said anything about Christmas. Again, if you are going to quote me, quote me accurately. I've said all along that Funcom will not exist as we know it by the end of January. That is my quote now, and has always been that.
The reason the 1.2M warhammer and LOTRO players does not make sense is because it is not true. AOC has about 1/4 of Warhammer, and warhammer has about 300k players.
And 'activity' doesn't mean a good thing. Darkfall is a trainwreck waiting to happen. It's just like the AOC forums.. the majority of posts are by people saying the game is failing / will fail.
I mean, read this thread on the AOC forums http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/219042 that is about 15 people all posting negative comments about AOC (with the exception of Avery of course). Activity does not mean a game is popular, it just means a lot of people come here to be entertained. I mean, seriously, some of your posts, especially the one where you said AOC was 10/10 just made me laugh out loud. Again, AOC has reached the 'insignificant' corner of MMORPGs, just like AO and Vanguard... just because people still post here to make fun of the game doesn't mean we are playing it.
First of all you need to quote yourself right. You have said on multiple occations that FC and AoC will be dead by Christmas or January. Don' t make me cut paste from your posting history (and you know I will).
Second thing I see where your reasoning fail now that you post that 1/4 number. Where on earth are you getting that from. I was thinking from Xfire numbers, but then again Xfire AoC vs WAR is 4450/13350 = 1/3 so I am confused. I am anyways not going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, knowing how inaccurate you purposely are in your posts. Therefore I am simply just going to assume you are comparing absolute numbers in Xfire in between games!!! lol. Come on, we can't even discuss if you are going to do shit like that. I might aswell take the number of posts here in MMORPG on AoC and compare it to number of posts on WAR and say AoC has 2 times the population of WAR. That would probably make an as true statement as the stuff you conjure up.
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer.
The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
*chuckle,chuckle*
More quotes "OMG AoC is dead before Christmas, OMG AoC is dead in January, OMG, OMG..." . I think you need to start and answer from some of your failed prophecies. You have in fact been wrong on all of them, but you just keep going. I read in one of the other threads that the prophecy is that the merge somehow will go wrong. LOL. Well, guess who's going to be wrong again Thursday morning? You need to chill and relax, there is no reason for why you should get so involved in the success or not of a game you don't even like and are not playing.
For the stuff you write on WAR, I agree with you it does not make sense. WAR is probably not having that much more of a playerbase than AoC and certainly not 1 M. And for your bobtalk on that AoC is even not on most peoples radar any longer, I think the activity level in the various AoC forums proves you wrong. The three most active forums in MMORPG is Darkfall, AoC and WAR. I can't really see where Aoc has dropped of the radar. lol
I never said anything about Christmas. Again, if you are going to quote me, quote me accurately. I've said all along that Funcom will not exist as we know it by the end of January. That is my quote now, and has always been that.
The reason the 1.2M warhammer and LOTRO players does not make sense is because it is not true. AOC has about 1/4 of Warhammer, and warhammer has about 300k players.
And 'activity' doesn't mean a good thing. Darkfall is a trainwreck waiting to happen. It's just like the AOC forums.. the majority of posts are by people saying the game is failing / will fail.
I mean, read this thread on the AOC forums http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/219042 that is about 15 people all posting negative comments about AOC (with the exception of Avery of course). Activity does not mean a game is popular, it just means a lot of people come here to be entertained. I mean, seriously, some of your posts, especially the one where you said AOC was 10/10 just made me laugh out loud. Again, AOC has reached the 'insignificant' corner of MMORPGs, just like AO and Vanguard... just because people still post here to make fun of the game doesn't mean we are playing it.
First of all you need to quote yourself right. You have said on multiple occations that FC and AoC will be dead by Christmas or January. Don' t make me cut paste from your posting history (and you know I will).
Second thing I see where your reasoning fail now that you post that 1/4 number. Where on earth are you getting that from. I was thinking from Xfire numbers, but then again Xfire AoC vs WAR is 4450/13350 = 1/3 so I am confused. I am anyways not going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, knowing how inaccurate you purposely are in your posts. Therefore I am simply just going to assume you are comparing absolute numbers in Xfire in between games!!! lol. Come on, we can't even discuss if you are going to do shit like that. I might aswell take the number of posts here in MMORPG on AoC and compare it to number of posts on WAR and say AoC has 2 times the population of WAR. That would probably make an as true statement as the stuff you conjure up.
I can't figure out which are the funniest, the ones claiming it has 300K subs or the ones claiming it will be dead by next week.
I think you and I are the most realistic people on these boards from different stand points. I've always said the game has about 100-300k (300k is generous) subs world wide. Since there are 18 servers left after the mergers world wide and I've estimated that each server can hold ruffly 12-36k people (estimated by numbers at launch in the US) then that's 216k people. Based on on anecdotal evidence, there are probably between 126k-150k subs (6 servers with half of max 6,000 the rest being nearly full 8,000 user). I think that's a fair assessment.
I can't figure out which are the funniest, the ones claiming it has 300K subs or the ones claiming it will be dead by next week.
I think you and I are the most realistic people on these boards from different stand points. I've always said the game has about 100-300k (300k is generous) subs world wide. Since there are 18 servers left after the mergers world wide and I've estimated that each server can hold ruffly 12-36k people (estimated by numbers at launch in the US) then that's 216k people. Based on on anecdotal evidence, there are probably between 126k-150k subs (6 servers with half of max 6,000 the rest being nearly full 8,000 user). I think that's a fair assessment.
My estimate is just a tad lower but close enough not to matter .
Not to bright eh... Let me remind you that all US AoC was down 24 hours yesterday for server merge. lol. What you actually see here is EU activity only.
I can't figure out which are the funniest, the ones claiming it has 300K subs or the ones claiming it will be dead by next week.
I think you and I are the most realistic people on these boards from different stand points. I've always said the game has about 100-300k (300k is generous) subs world wide. Since there are 18 servers left after the mergers world wide and I've estimated that each server can hold ruffly 12-36k people (estimated by numbers at launch in the US) then that's 216k people. Based on on anecdotal evidence, there are probably between 126k-150k subs (6 servers with half of max 6,000 the rest being nearly full 8,000 user). I think that's a fair assessment.
Yeah, that's basically the way I do it. A full server is 10-15k players. Every game breaks out that way. You take the total population of the game (for the games that give it) and divide by the number of servers, and it always comes out to about 10-12k. (eve being the exception obviously).
But the question is.. out of the 18 servers that are left, how many were just kept up because they had a certain ruleset or for language reasons? The french, spanish and ocean servers in particular.
When the mergers are done, you will end up with the big 4 in NA, and then another 6 that have medium populations. This is going by traditional population standards. Remember at launch, when these servers were full, there were somtimes 5-10 different copies of certain zones. On a full server, there would be multiple instances of many zones.. on a 'high' population server, there should be multiple instances of the main zones (which happens now on the big 4 sometimes).
Kinda like if you checked the population on the server that was already merged. Players will say they notice the difference, and they probably can. But the fact remains there has not a single zone that had multiple instances. The server population doubled, but it's still a low population server. The reason they kept it was because they needed to keep a pvp-ocean server. But it's good for it's players, because now the world feels 'full'.
Until funcom willingly gives out numbers to show how 'well' they're doing now as opposed to a few months ago when they were hemmorraging players, I'm not going to take things like an increased playtime during the christmas break as some sign that AoC has suddenly turned into the game it was being praised as and sold as when I bought it at launch. the game that was incredibly broken, where stats did nothing until a few weeks into the game (which then unbalanced combat for awhile), and lower level content was taken away with a grey mob buff that was beyond retarded.
I hope Funcom finds itself on the brink of ruin at some point, scraping by, so that they can serve as an example of what happens when a company releases a game in a horrific state. Maybe they can recover after that point, possibly by trying to make amends with the hundreds of thousands they scammed at launch.
I hope Darkfall is as polished, game-engine wise, as the claims are, and that as a result it is extremely successful. Having the polar opposites within the same year would help the MMO industry, so people could look and say "Ok look at how these guys screwed up and went under, and those guys were anal about every detail and are extremely successful". Just a shame that AoC is the failure in this case, I had hopes for it when I followed it and got it, and those hopes were murdered horribly.
Until funcom willingly gives out numbers to show how 'well' they're doing now as opposed to a few months ago when they were hemmorraging players, I'm not going to take things like an increased playtime during the christmas break as some sign that AoC has suddenly turned into the game it was being praised as and sold as when I bought it at launch. the game that was incredibly broken, where stats did nothing until a few weeks into the game (which then unbalanced combat for awhile), and lower level content was taken away with a grey mob buff that was beyond retarded.
I hope Funcom finds itself on the brink of ruin at some point, scraping by, so that they can serve as an example of what happens when a company releases a game in a horrific state. Maybe they can recover after that point, possibly by trying to make amends with the hundreds of thousands they scammed at launch.
I hope Darkfall is as polished, game-engine wise, as the claims are, and that as a result it is extremely successful. Having the polar opposites within the same year would help the MMO industry, so people could look and say "Ok look at how these guys screwed up and went under, and those guys were anal about every detail and are extremely successful". Just a shame that AoC is the failure in this case, I had hopes for it when I followed it and got it, and those hopes were murdered horribly.
Darkfall will fail hard.30 k subs top.It looks like crap,the gameplay looks like crap.AoC is a game for the future,Darkfall is a game for a few hc fans.Wtf is it anyway?A mmo-fps?Trust me,it's not for the masses.
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Well Age of Conan was as high as 6000 this weekend, more than 1200 people playing. That is equivalent to Sep/October numbers so I would not be surprised if all backflux into the game have given us between 300-400 000 subscribers. My server is hopping at least.
heh considering that when they were claiming to have 60, 000 to 800, 000 subs it was logging over 60, 000 hours per day on the weekdays I fail to see how your math works. The game might have 125Kand that is a generous estimate. Saturday the 10th ( 5933 hours) was over 250 hours higher than Saturday the 3rd ( 5676) which was good, Sunday the 4th and Sunday the 11th were too close to matter.
Just my opinion FC should be happy that the numbers have stabalized and stopped dropping. They got a nice little boost over the holidays, now all they have to do is retain those players and more shall come as server merges and content is added. Looks like FC might even pull a EvE turnaround if they play their cards right
On a side note there is no need to throw out BS numbers like 300K - 400K., all it does is make the company look like they are still BS'ing and talking out their ass. It may just be me but I think FC has learned that the gaming community values honesty and detests BS. They may have learned that the hard way but so be it.
I miss DAoC
Well Age of Conan was as high as 6000 this weekend, more than 1200 people playing. That is equivalent to Sep/October numbers so I would not be surprised if all backflux into the game have given us between 300-400 000 subscribers. My server is hopping at least.
heh considering that when they were claiming to have 60, 000 to 800, 000 subs it was logging over 60, 000 hours per day on the weekdays I fail to see how your math works. The game might have 125Kand that is a generous estimate. An AoC never hit 6K it's hoghhest numbers were Sunday the 11th and they were 5795 which was 27 hours more than the previous Sunday which was 5768.
Just my opinion FC should be happy that the numbers have stabalized and stopped dropping. They got a nice little boost over the holidays, now all they have to do is retain those players and more shall come as server merges and content is added. Looks like FC might even pull a EvE turnaround if they play their cards right
Well we all know it is not the amount of hours played that contributes it is the actual amount of people itself. In that regard AoC has shot up over 300 people in last few weeks. $15 paid is still $15 whether you played for 20hrs or logged 70hrs (hardcore WoW) ( Whose to say that those extra people are family men like yourself with maybe more RL commitments?) Therefore we see more casual friendly games down the list as we do see. The most fluctuating number is obviously the amount of hours xfire shows. AoC has had steady numbers for a while now. Infact it held on to a higher proportion of players that used Xfire over a longer period than Warhammer (as an example- from release to 3 months after)
Well we all know it is not the amount of hours played that contributes it is the actual amount of people itself. In that regard AoC has shot up over 300 people in last few weeks. $15 paid is still $15 whether you played for 20hrs or logged 70hrs (hardcore WoW) ( Whose to say that those extra people are family men like yourself with maybe more RL commitments?) Therefore we see more casual friendly games down the list as we do see. The most fluctuating number is obviously the amount of hours xfire shows. AoC has had steady numbers for a while now. Infact it held on to a higher proportion of players that used Xfire over a longer period than Warhammer (as an example- from release to 3 months after)
oddly enough if you take yesterdays minutes for WoW and divided it by the number of players
30,958,115 / 106,376 you get a average played time of 291.002 minutes
then take AoC's numbers
347,694 / 1,192 you get a average played time of 291.689 minutes
LOL or about 5 hours per XFire using player
Warhammer averaged 263 minutes , EvE 243 minutes, LoTRO had a average of 282 minutes per XFire player
I miss DAoC
Well we all know it is not the amount of hours played that contributes it is the actual amount of people itself. In that regard AoC has shot up over 300 people in last few weeks. $15 paid is still $15 whether you played for 20hrs or logged 70hrs (hardcore WoW) ( Whose to say that those extra people are family men like yourself with maybe more RL commitments?) Therefore we see more casual friendly games down the list as we do see. The most fluctuating number is obviously the amount of hours xfire shows. AoC has had steady numbers for a while now. Infact it held on to a higher proportion of players that used Xfire over a longer period than Warhammer (as an example- from release to 3 months after)
oddly enough if you take yesterdays minutes for WoW and divided it by the number of players
30,958,115 / 106,376 you get a average played time of 291.002 minutes
then take AoC's numbers
347,694 / 1,192 you get a average played time of 291.689 minutes
LOL or about 5 hours per XFire using player
Warhammer averaged 263 minutes , EvE 243 minutes, LoTRO had a average of 282 minutes per XFire player
Nice one. lol
Personally I've been giving re-joining AoC serious thought. I always find my self returning to the point of, "Waiting for more PvE and a bit more PvP content."
Depending on the depth of the new dungeon they are working on and any forthcoming PvP upgrades I may be swayed into re-subbing. Additionally, word of any other future PvE/PvP content being released after the dungeon would definitely pique my interest.
I have a really good hunch that I am sure there will be an announcement coming one the patch 4 goes out or just before that this will be the case.
I keep looking though gate to Tarantia Commons wanting to go through :P
AoC is relatively up again in Xfire.
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Thats great! If it jumps up another 31 spots it will be tied with Warhammer!!!!!
Yeah, basically AOC is up about 15% in the past month. It has gone from 75,000 players to 90,000 or something like that. It is still at about 1/4th that of Warhammer ( roughly 300,000). The good thing is that warhammer is droppign and AOC is rising.. it will be interesting to see if warhammer actually falls enough to get within reach of AOC. If AOC gives a free month for returning players, it will be the deathblow for Warhammer.
The server mergers are definitely going to help. Not only will it bring back some players, but it will make currrent subscribers play even more (less boring times). Darkfall on Jan22nd will also be interesting and might bring back some AOC players when darkfall doesn't launch.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
*chuckle,chuckle*
More quotes "OMG AoC is dead before Christmas, OMG AoC is dead in January, OMG, OMG..." . I think you need to start and answer from some of your failed prophecies. You have in fact been wrong on all of them, but you just keep going. I read in one of the other threads that the prophecy is that the merge somehow will go wrong. LOL. Well, guess who's going to be wrong again Thursday morning? You need to chill and relax, there is no reason for why you should get so involved in the success or not of a game you don't even like and are not playing.
For the stuff you write on WAR, I agree with you it does not make sense. WAR is probably not having that much more of a playerbase than AoC and certainly not 1 M. And for your bobtalk on that AoC is even not on most peoples radar any longer, I think the activity level in the various AoC forums proves you wrong. The three most active forums in MMORPG is Darkfall, AoC and WAR. I can't really see where Aoc has dropped of the radar. lol
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
*chuckle,chuckle*
More quotes "OMG AoC is dead before Christmas, OMG AoC is dead in January, OMG, OMG..." . I think you need to start and answer from some of your failed prophecies. You have in fact been wrong on all of them, but you just keep going. I read in one of the other threads that the prophecy is that the merge somehow will go wrong. LOL. Well, guess who's going to be wrong again Thursday morning? You need to chill and relax, there is no reason for why you should get so involved in the success or not of a game you don't even like and are not playing.
For the stuff you write on WAR, I agree with you it does not make sense. WAR is probably not having that much more of a playerbase than AoC and certainly not 1 M. And for your bobtalk on that AoC is even not on most peoples radar any longer, I think the activity level in the various AoC forums proves you wrong. The three most active forums in MMORPG is Darkfall, AoC and WAR. I can't really see where Aoc has dropped of the radar. lol
I never said anything about Christmas. Again, if you are going to quote me, quote me accurately. I've said all along that Funcom will not exist as we know it by the end of January. That is my quote now, and has always been that.
The reason the 1.2M warhammer and LOTRO players does not make sense is because it is not true. AOC has about 1/4 of Warhammer, and warhammer has about 300k players.
And 'activity' doesn't mean a good thing. Darkfall is a trainwreck waiting to happen. It's just like the AOC forums.. the majority of posts are by people saying the game is failing / will fail.
I mean, read this thread on the AOC forums http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/219042 that is about 15 people all posting negative comments about AOC (with the exception of Avery of course). Activity does not mean a game is popular, it just means a lot of people come here to be entertained. I mean, seriously, some of your posts, especially the one where you said AOC was 10/10 just made me laugh out loud. Again, AOC has reached the 'insignificant' corner of MMORPGs, just like AO and Vanguard... just because people still post here to make fun of the game doesn't mean we are playing it.
It's time buddy. You said you was not ready to discuss anything before AoC was in the 40's. Well guess what we're there. Now why do think that happen?
Here is what I think, AoC is as we know miles ahead of anybody else in how they present the game. Graphics and music Score is just absolutely fantastic. AoC have no competation on any levels in this category. I think we also can say that stabilitywise AoC also start to become as good if not better than most other MMOs. This is at least some of the comments I have read from gaming experts lately. Now, having this in place and implementing new features, content and more fun the game will just steadily move forward and take more and more players on board as the word of mouth spreads through the gamer communities. Just wish I could convince you log on so could see for yourself.
And by the way consensus on AoC population before the holidays was about 200 000. A +50% increase of that would indicate that we are approaching 300 000 now.
I said 'low 40s' if you are going to quote me, then provide the quote.
So you are saying AOC has 300,000... and Warhammer has 4x's as many as AOC.. does that mean Warhammer and Lotro both have over a million subs? You think they would've mentioned breaking 1M?
You are right though, AOC has great graphics (environments) it has 'average' animations and good sound. But it has gameplay that is very subpar at endgame, it has a reputation that is shot and the company behind it now has launched two very bad games. If AOC gives away a free month to returning players, they may jump to 125,000 (after the free month is over)... which would be basically a 100% increase from their lows.
There is a reason that AOC was voted the biggest disappointement of 2008 and Funcom came in last for 'best studio'. AOC is not even on most people's radar any longer... it's no more a viable alternative than Anarchy Online or Vanguard is. There are people who play those games who post the same type of things you post " omg.. best game ever, you have to play it 10/10".
Your game has moved from 55 to 47.. congratulations on that. But it still behind about 30 games that nobody has heard of. And it is still FAR FAR behind warhammer and Lotro.
*chuckle,chuckle*
More quotes "OMG AoC is dead before Christmas, OMG AoC is dead in January, OMG, OMG..." . I think you need to start and answer from some of your failed prophecies. You have in fact been wrong on all of them, but you just keep going. I read in one of the other threads that the prophecy is that the merge somehow will go wrong. LOL. Well, guess who's going to be wrong again Thursday morning? You need to chill and relax, there is no reason for why you should get so involved in the success or not of a game you don't even like and are not playing.
For the stuff you write on WAR, I agree with you it does not make sense. WAR is probably not having that much more of a playerbase than AoC and certainly not 1 M. And for your bobtalk on that AoC is even not on most peoples radar any longer, I think the activity level in the various AoC forums proves you wrong. The three most active forums in MMORPG is Darkfall, AoC and WAR. I can't really see where Aoc has dropped of the radar. lol
I never said anything about Christmas. Again, if you are going to quote me, quote me accurately. I've said all along that Funcom will not exist as we know it by the end of January. That is my quote now, and has always been that.
The reason the 1.2M warhammer and LOTRO players does not make sense is because it is not true. AOC has about 1/4 of Warhammer, and warhammer has about 300k players.
And 'activity' doesn't mean a good thing. Darkfall is a trainwreck waiting to happen. It's just like the AOC forums.. the majority of posts are by people saying the game is failing / will fail.
I mean, read this thread on the AOC forums http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/219042 that is about 15 people all posting negative comments about AOC (with the exception of Avery of course). Activity does not mean a game is popular, it just means a lot of people come here to be entertained. I mean, seriously, some of your posts, especially the one where you said AOC was 10/10 just made me laugh out loud. Again, AOC has reached the 'insignificant' corner of MMORPGs, just like AO and Vanguard... just because people still post here to make fun of the game doesn't mean we are playing it.
First of all you need to quote yourself right. You have said on multiple occations that FC and AoC will be dead by Christmas or January. Don' t make me cut paste from your posting history (and you know I will).
Second thing I see where your reasoning fail now that you post that 1/4 number. Where on earth are you getting that from. I was thinking from Xfire numbers, but then again Xfire AoC vs WAR is 4450/13350 = 1/3 so I am confused. I am anyways not going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, knowing how inaccurate you purposely are in your posts. Therefore I am simply just going to assume you are comparing absolute numbers in Xfire in between games!!! lol. Come on, we can't even discuss if you are going to do shit like that. I might aswell take the number of posts here in MMORPG on AoC and compare it to number of posts on WAR and say AoC has 2 times the population of WAR. That would probably make an as true statement as the stuff you conjure up.
Finally 10/10 what? When did I post 10/10?
I think he is refering to this
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/209515
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I can't figure out which are the funniest, the ones claiming it has 300K subs or the ones claiming it will be dead by next week.
I miss DAoC
how nice! welcome their back! i hope this game will be more popular!
I think you and I are the most realistic people on these boards from different stand points. I've always said the game has about 100-300k (300k is generous) subs world wide. Since there are 18 servers left after the mergers world wide and I've estimated that each server can hold ruffly 12-36k people (estimated by numbers at launch in the US) then that's 216k people. Based on on anecdotal evidence, there are probably between 126k-150k subs (6 servers with half of max 6,000 the rest being nearly full 8,000 user). I think that's a fair assessment.
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I think you and I are the most realistic people on these boards from different stand points. I've always said the game has about 100-300k (300k is generous) subs world wide. Since there are 18 servers left after the mergers world wide and I've estimated that each server can hold ruffly 12-36k people (estimated by numbers at launch in the US) then that's 216k people. Based on on anecdotal evidence, there are probably between 126k-150k subs (6 servers with half of max 6,000 the rest being nearly full 8,000 user). I think that's a fair assessment.
My estimate is just a tad lower but close enough not to matter .
I miss DAoC
Well its going down fast again, hopefully this abomination called an mmo will be dead soon.
http://www.xfire.com/games/aoc/Age_of_Conan_Hyborian_Adventures/
Not to bright eh... Let me remind you that all US AoC was down 24 hours yesterday for server merge. lol. What you actually see here is EU activity only.
And today EU servers will be deserted since not many read forum announcements
I think you and I are the most realistic people on these boards from different stand points. I've always said the game has about 100-300k (300k is generous) subs world wide. Since there are 18 servers left after the mergers world wide and I've estimated that each server can hold ruffly 12-36k people (estimated by numbers at launch in the US) then that's 216k people. Based on on anecdotal evidence, there are probably between 126k-150k subs (6 servers with half of max 6,000 the rest being nearly full 8,000 user). I think that's a fair assessment.
Yeah, that's basically the way I do it. A full server is 10-15k players. Every game breaks out that way. You take the total population of the game (for the games that give it) and divide by the number of servers, and it always comes out to about 10-12k. (eve being the exception obviously).
But the question is.. out of the 18 servers that are left, how many were just kept up because they had a certain ruleset or for language reasons? The french, spanish and ocean servers in particular.
When the mergers are done, you will end up with the big 4 in NA, and then another 6 that have medium populations. This is going by traditional population standards. Remember at launch, when these servers were full, there were somtimes 5-10 different copies of certain zones. On a full server, there would be multiple instances of many zones.. on a 'high' population server, there should be multiple instances of the main zones (which happens now on the big 4 sometimes).
Kinda like if you checked the population on the server that was already merged. Players will say they notice the difference, and they probably can. But the fact remains there has not a single zone that had multiple instances. The server population doubled, but it's still a low population server. The reason they kept it was because they needed to keep a pvp-ocean server. But it's good for it's players, because now the world feels 'full'.
Until funcom willingly gives out numbers to show how 'well' they're doing now as opposed to a few months ago when they were hemmorraging players, I'm not going to take things like an increased playtime during the christmas break as some sign that AoC has suddenly turned into the game it was being praised as and sold as when I bought it at launch. the game that was incredibly broken, where stats did nothing until a few weeks into the game (which then unbalanced combat for awhile), and lower level content was taken away with a grey mob buff that was beyond retarded.
I hope Funcom finds itself on the brink of ruin at some point, scraping by, so that they can serve as an example of what happens when a company releases a game in a horrific state. Maybe they can recover after that point, possibly by trying to make amends with the hundreds of thousands they scammed at launch.
I hope Darkfall is as polished, game-engine wise, as the claims are, and that as a result it is extremely successful. Having the polar opposites within the same year would help the MMO industry, so people could look and say "Ok look at how these guys screwed up and went under, and those guys were anal about every detail and are extremely successful". Just a shame that AoC is the failure in this case, I had hopes for it when I followed it and got it, and those hopes were murdered horribly.
Darkfall will fail hard.30 k subs top.It looks like crap,the gameplay looks like crap.AoC is a game for the future,Darkfall is a game for a few hc fans.Wtf is it anyway?A mmo-fps?Trust me,it's not for the masses.