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wanting info on classic server plz
Spartan3088
Member Posts: 35
I was told they are coming out with a new server and there would be a poll about what type of server we want. Is the poll out? and where can i find it. or have they said about when it will be. Also when is the server coming out?
My friends and I are hoping for a REAL classic server. I say real because i see them making one and calling it classic but still keeping things like the fast lvling, hot zones. Only way this server would work if u ask me is to make it 100% old school. Like back to the days of hell lvls,boats,and things like that. Also think it should be like 6months to a year before they come out with each expansion.(and only the 1st 3)
I do like someone else idea about after the 1st 3 expansion they could start over and try to make new expansions and keep them like EQ was. This could work for everyone soe would get more money on expansion which they love and we could get a all new game kind of.
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And how do you think that this server will work? Everyone keeps crying about a classic server and yet by saying that you are dooming the server before it starts. A classic server will be dull and will only intrest people for a couple months at most.
I would love a hardcore classic server of EQ - up to the time of Velious. And I would play it.
So far SoE hasn't put any new information out. When they do I will make sure to post it here if someone doesn't beat me to it.
I definitely don't agree with Goldknyght. The 100 pages on their forums says differently: Begging for classic!
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Goldknyght, it would take more then a couple of months to get max lvls if they make it a REAL classic server. But thats what i think will kill it. SOE will say its a classic but keep some things like the fast lvling, hotzones, stones not boats, and summon corpse stones or however they do it now. EQ was fun when it was a hard when i had to go back and try to get my corpse. Now EQ is trying to be like WOW and if i wanted a wow game i would go play WOW. which i did but after a few months and have 3 max lvl chars with not bad gear i quit. Funny thing is all the time playing wow i just made fun of how easy it was and talked about good old days of EQ with friends and like so many others i been waiting for a REAL classic server for way to long.
Yeah there maybe a 100pages that say otherwise but everyone of you including myself only think about those days we played those first 3. We forget how much the game has evovled and if we did revert back we would have fun for a few months maybe half a year at most but the population would die off and then the server would have to be merged. Hey i remember just EQ before all the expansions and it was and still is the best 3D mmo to date. its just i know the novelty will wear off sooner then later because our life styles have changed since 10 years ago and we just wont have the same amount of time like we did when we enjoyed EQ so much. Just my opinion. only time can tell what will happen.
As for what i would like in the new server. It would be yeah another progression but it will take longer to unlock expansions. mininum 3 months. maximum 6 months. I dont want the latest expansion 5+ years from now.
if its another progression, I wish they would make it 'per guild'. In other words, once you join and establish a guild and get in a set number of players..then you can start the progression, but it is your own personal progression. Other guilds can be less or farther ahead than you and it wouldn't affect your ability to experience it all.
Of course, those without guilds coming into the game would be pressured to find one or start one..but if it is understood that once your in and have enough members that you can begin..I don't think it would be a big issue.
I think the "guild progression" has far too many problems and loopholes to ever work. Such as:
If someone deguilds do they lose their progression? If no, then top guilds could just sell guild invites to open content for people. If yes, guild leaders would wield FAR too much power over people and a single guild disbanding could set 100s of players back to original EQ only.
What is to stop players from selling gear and spell from later expansions to players who have not opened that content yet? Doubt this could be hard coded.
Different level limits across the server? If you are not in a guild you are stuck at 50, yet an endgame guild can all be 85? Again if someone disbands do they delevel to 50?
I'm sure this is just the tip of the iceburg of problems that a guild progression server could and would cause.
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good points..I definitely didn't think that far ahead..guess I'm just anxious to see what the new server is that I abandoned the notion of 'evil intentions' lol.
I guess that's why people have different points of view.
You say in your other post a true classic server would only last a few months.
You then want another progression server... why?
You already have access to all that and they already have failed progression server(s).
It will succeed if its slower?
Its your point of view.. so I'm not going to pretend mine is any more universally true.
I guess my point of view is...
They already have the game they turned it into...
They could also have the game that people who quit wanted to keep playing.
That's just how I see it and I wouldn't return regardless.. just a point of view. Hopefully you get what you want...
There is another thread about it already, but I figured I would mention it here as well. There is a formal petition for a Classic EverQuest server that was recently released: Classic EverQuest Petition.
It is unlikely that a Classic server will be an option on SOE's poll, so we can voice our desire for a Classic server on the petition to show how viable it would be to create a Classic server.
Classic EverQuest Petition
My point is that no matter what kind of server they choose it will fail in the terms of how many people stick with it. A classic server will die off soon. Half the reason is like i said Classic Server sounds nice but they dont hold enough content to keep anybody intrested for long. My problem with progression is when expansions are unlocked it spreads groups far and wide and thins out numbers of groups in any given area. then finding a groups is hard. If they slow this process down people can have time to catch up and rekindle that early EQ feeling. they can keep people in the game because lets face it EQ is the shit!
No. It won't. You just made that up. Besides, they could turn a profit anyway. Alot of players know that theres nothing worth playing and that EQ before it was expanded upon was probably the best MMO they played. I don't see how your logical progression drove you to think that because people loved old EQ they will run away from it. So I would be a hypocrite if I said the classic server will be a success. But I think too many people are writing it off too quickly. Honestly I've wanted a classic server for 5 years by now. Thats alot of money they woudl have gotten out of me. The longer they wait the more competition they create for themselves. EQ classic might not be able to hold up against 2010 MMOs, but the crap out now gets pwned all day long by EQ.
EQ was the best MMO the first few years it was out, up to the point they started to cater to the crybabies, wah i have to go GET my corpse, why do i have to run all that way blah blah blah...thats what made it fun, true i hated running all the time and I played a ranger, you couldnt get a group to save your life,untill the catering began..u couldnt hardly find a ranger up till then, do a who all ranger and it was pretty much just me lol. So yes if they brought back EQ classic server I would play, and as a ranger, so would 4 guys i worked/played with it was hard and it was fun, lost a few corpses dieing where i shouldnt have been, but enjoyed it. As far as content, they can still make expansions and keep them inline with classic, not a big deal there. But of course there are a lot more crybabies that want everything handed to them and not have to do much in return, more money with those types. But I also think most peeps are getting very tired of the ho hum easy crap, just not enough for a company to do anything about it yet cause the crap is still making them money. I need a bunch of programmers, make my own damn game.
The everquest "Classic" server that was going to be hosted by a 3rd party got sued and since they were a bunch of old devs and broke people with a great idea, they had to abandon the project.
The new server will more than likely be a progression server with pre-set time locks per expansion, i.e. the earliest the next expansion will open will be 2 months (for example) and if it takes longer than 2 months to beat the expansion before it then it just takes longer.
What a ridiculous statement disproved by fact. Those of us who played in the classic era obviously did not lose interest in a couple months.
SOE will never introduce a real classic server. To do so requires stripping all the dummy down features they have added and changed over the years, having a set time release for the expansions of at least six months each(not the retarded progression option of letting uberguilds control when they get added), and not allowing Stationcash on a classic server. Do you really think SOE is gonna remove Stationcash in order to provide a real classic server?
What a ridiculous statement disproved by fact. Those of us who played in the classic era obviously did not lose interest in a couple months.
SOE will never introduce a real classic server. To do so requires stripping all the dummy down features they have added and changed over the years, having a set time release for the expansions of at least six months each(not the retarded progression option of letting uberguilds control when they get added), and not allowing Stationcash on a classic server. Do you really think SOE is gonna remove Stationcash in order to provide a real classic server?
I dont think that they would have to do a whole lot of work stripping down the "newer" added in features...I'm sure they have a backup of all the patches they've made going down back to the original EQ days. If not shame on them! All they would really need to do is jsut load up those patches and implement them in and lock up all the other patch files.
Well then shame on them, the hacks working at SOE admitted they don't have the original coding or the ability to even pull it up because to much was plugged in by to many different hack so called "programmers" to even find the original code anymore...
I was playing EQ2 last night, I had my SK out, anyway a few mobs popped next to me, so I ran, I had no chance, "just run away" haha
It got me thinking about EQ1, I played it from launch until PoP by the way.
I rememeber in 1 having to leave the zone to lose aggro, shit the mobs had attitude in 1!
Nowaday we are spoon fed, boats and running zones wasn't so bad IMHO, it made the world seem more real.
Make a real classic server and see, SOE.
All you winey sods can go play WOW, some people are willing to face a challenge.
EQ2 looks nice that is true but its all SOLO this SOLO that, well fuck that I want groups!
For those who want a classic server.
http://www.eqmac.com/