I was playing it about a month ago and they had something called GhostKilling, you could target something like "Emporor Ssasra" and go down to the entrance and start attacking from there safely. I cant tell you how they looted it or how it even worked, it was all second hand information but that was the big nasty hack, the rest of them were trivial. I never ran into anyone doing it and have only heard of a few people accused while in game of doing it. It played just like EQ always had and the Ghostkill thing was never an issue for the guild I was in, we raided Plane of Time, Anguish, etc just like the old days....well with uber gear compared to the old days but it was still fun.
Some idiots on this site bash World of Warcraft, and I know why. They are Ghost hackers in EQ and SOE turns a blind eye while Blizzard banned their arses. SOE doesn't care as long as you pay to play, Blizzard bans you.
Some idiots on this site bash World of Warcraft, and I know why. They are Ghost hackers in EQ and SOE turns a blind eye while Blizzard banned their arses. SOE doesn't care as long as you pay to play, Blizzard bans you.
You are misguided and seriously need a reality check. SOE will ban your ass if you are caught. I seen alot of people get banned for using hacks. And if you want to talk about how fast blizzard bans people take that crap to Blizzards forum. I and the rest of the EQ players could care less because it doesn't solve our problems.
As for the hacks i know in EQ are just hacks that let you know of what stuff is spawned or not. And i did see people macro killing which is annoying. But if your smart enough u can beat the macro'ers because they leave it running. EQ is a old game and alot of people have had alot of time to hack the code and get into the game. But i dont think that the hacking effects anyone as a whole IMHO.
I played on both The Sleeper and later The Combine and honestly I never saw anyone hacking. I'm sure it happened and everyone claims to know someone banned for it. I just personnaly never ran into it. I think the term "hacking" get thrown around way too much. If you are camping a random spawn named and someone who just zoned in happens to kill him he must have hacked right? I mean none of us ever just happened to find a name up as we were passing through a zone right?
Grr typos.
Daragoth
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill
I haven't played EQ in years and years, however my younger brother (who's 24) still plays and has numerous maxed characters. He cheats like a bandit. He showed me this one program he had that basiclly allowed him to teleport to any zone he wanted and still let's it register as going through the proper zones as far as the server was concerned. Basically he could go from A through D instantonsly but make the server think he also went through B and C. He could also going invis both from mobs and players (and not spell invis, but complete invis, no aggro from *anything*) I think it at the very least takes a dual box setup and possibly linux on one of the machines. Personally I think SOE probablly knows very much about it, but this day in age probably most the games population is cheating in some shape or form, so they turn a blind eye. That's just my two cents though.
Heltern is right, I cheated in EQ, I used a no drop transfer hack. My punishment after doing it for YEARRS, a two week suspension. BULLCRAP SOE DOES ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT CHEATING! I was a raider, and EVERY Monk puller used showEQ, or you weren't a Monk puller, and Monks aren't great DPS, so you weren't in a raiding guild as a Monk UNLESS you cheated! Otherwise you were ORDERED by the leaders of your guild to get showEQ. MMORPG is full of liars, pro-SOE liars, World of Warcraft and Blizzard do 100 times more to stop hacks and cheats, PERIOD!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Heltern is right, I cheated in EQ, I used a no drop transfer hack. My punishment after doing it for YEARRS, a two week suspension. BULLCRAP SOE DOES ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT CHEATING! I was a raider, and EVERY Monk puller used showEQ, or you weren't a Monk puller, and Monks aren't great DPS, so you weren't in a raiding guild as a Monk UNLESS you cheated! Otherwise you were ORDERED by the leaders of your guild to get showEQ. MMORPG is full of liars, pro-SOE liars, World of Warcraft and Blizzard do 100 times more to stop hacks and cheats, PERIOD!
Over generalize much? Every monk puller didn't use ShowEQ. All guild leaders didn't order their monk pullers to hack. Maybe in your circle of "hacker, can't make it if I play by the rules,ruin the game for everyone" friends all the monks cheated. But don't try to justify what you did by thinking everyone does it. Face it, most likely you sucked as a player and had to cheat to do what more skilled players than yourself could do legit.
Daragoth
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill
Heltern is right, I cheated in EQ, I used a no drop transfer hack. My punishment after doing it for YEARRS, a two week suspension. BULLCRAP SOE DOES ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT CHEATING! I was a raider, and EVERY Monk puller used showEQ, or you weren't a Monk puller, and Monks aren't great DPS, so you weren't in a raiding guild as a Monk UNLESS you cheated! Otherwise you were ORDERED by the leaders of your guild to get showEQ. MMORPG is full of liars, pro-SOE liars, World of Warcraft and Blizzard do 100 times more to stop hacks and cheats, PERIOD!
Is second the sentiment that you are a shameless cheater who should be shunned by all.
I haven't played EQ in years and years, however my younger brother (who's 24) still plays and has numerous maxed characters. He cheats like a bandit. He showed me this one program he had that basiclly allowed him to teleport to any zone he wanted and still let's it register as going through the proper zones as far as the server was concerned. Basically he could go from A through D instantonsly but make the server think he also went through B and C. He could also going invis both from mobs and players (and not spell invis, but complete invis, no aggro from *anything*) I think it at the very least takes a dual box setup and possibly linux on one of the machines. Personally I think SOE probablly knows very much about it, but this day in age probably most the games population is cheating in some shape or form, so they turn a blind eye. That's just my two cents though.
My younger brother used to try and cheat when we played board games. I explained to him he was only cheating himself and that I would refuse to play with him if he didn't stop. I hope you gave your brother similar advice.
The hacking was realtively underground because EQ players often got angry when they discovered hackers. It wasn't something you wore on your sleeve. Personally I was in a guild in which the leader had crazy hacks that woudl let him teleport to any zoneline on either side, or automaticly rezz himself as though he were a cleric with the 100% AA...without even being in the zone >_>. He once asked me to help him do something and to just log onto his other account and kill myself anywhere. I was then rezzed in another zone with my body teleported as well and was told to loot something. There were several other less severe, but EQ is very insecure. Most people who play EQ are the types who like the game as a game or a challenge and do not cheat, but i was awfully dissapointed to see that EQ was so compromised. I cancled my account soon after finding out just how badly my guild-leader could manipulate the game.
Heltern is right, I cheated in EQ, I used a no drop transfer hack. My punishment after doing it for YEARRS, a two week suspension. BULLCRAP SOE DOES ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT CHEATING! I was a raider, and EVERY Monk puller used showEQ, or you weren't a Monk puller, and Monks aren't great DPS, so you weren't in a raiding guild as a Monk UNLESS you cheated! Otherwise you were ORDERED by the leaders of your guild to get showEQ. MMORPG is full of liars, pro-SOE liars, World of Warcraft and Blizzard do 100 times more to stop hacks and cheats, PERIOD!
You are talking out of your ass, PERIOD.
Your sig shows that you are talking out of your ass because it is obvious that you dont like EQ so you are just jumping on the negative as soon as you can.
The fact that you prefer WoW to EQ means that you want to play a game that holds your hand and tells you exactly what to do all the time so you dont have to think for yourself. Have fun with that, though i think it is pathetic.
The fact that you actually said that MMORPG is full of Pro-SOE people makes you a complete asshat.
I played on both The Sleeper and later The Combine and honestly I never saw anyone hacking. I'm sure it happened and everyone claims to know someone banned for it. I just personnaly never ran into it. I think the term "hacking" get thrown around way too much. If you are camping a random spawn named and someone who just zoned in happens to kill him he must have hacked right? I mean none of us ever just happened to find a name up as we were passing through a zone right?
Grr typos.
I happen to know that a lot of ROI members on the combine use Macroquest (a form of hacking program) along with a few of the other lesser guilds on that server. No names will be given, but i know quit a few people from that guild IRL
You are talking out of your ass, PERIOD. Your sig shows that you are talking out of your ass because it is obvious that you dont like EQ so you are just jumping on the negative as soon as you can. The fact that you prefer WoW to EQ means that you want to play a game that holds your hand and tells you exactly what to do all the time so you dont have to think for yourself. Have fun with that, though i think it is pathetic. The fact that you actually said that MMORPG is full of Pro-SOE people makes you a complete asshat.
The one talking out there ass is YOU, did your widdle game get critizided? Can't handle it? WoW has kicked EQ and and EQ2 asses for YEARS now! As for the hand holding does your widdle game have mercs now? Was it to hard to find a group? Was your character underpowered because you weren't able to hack raiding? No such problems in WoW, WE can raid and have the best from EQ in OUR game! I think its pathetic the little babies playing SOE games can't handle that SOE looks the other way when cheating goes on. BTW, ROI was disbanded on Stromm for CHEATING. Then SOE allowed them to restart on the Combine server and just cheat again, that is SOE for you, anything to make a $.
I played early EQ, it sucked, and Monks and other classes DID use macros and showEQ to pull, it is and continues to be a fact.
You are talking out of your ass, PERIOD. Your sig shows that you are talking out of your ass because it is obvious that you dont like EQ so you are just jumping on the negative as soon as you can. The fact that you prefer WoW to EQ means that you want to play a game that holds your hand and tells you exactly what to do all the time so you dont have to think for yourself. Have fun with that, though i think it is pathetic. The fact that you actually said that MMORPG is full of Pro-SOE people makes you a complete asshat.
The one talking out there ass is YOU, did your widdle game get critizided? Can't handle it? WoW has kicked EQ and and EQ2 asses for YEARS now! As for the hand holding does your widdle game have mercs now? Was it to hard to find a group? Was your character underpowered because you weren't able to hack raiding? No such problems in WoW, WE can raid and have the best from EQ in OUR game! I think its pathetic the little babies playing SOE games can't handle that SOE looks the other way when cheating goes on. BTW, ROI was disbanded on Stromm for CHEATING. Then SOE allowed them to restart on the Combine server and just cheat again, that is SOE for you, anything to make a $.
Actually... seems you are going postal cause someone criticized your game and you cant handle it.
Believe it or not, not everyone walks around and wears their MMO's sub numbers on their sleeves, in fact, most people HOPE WoW keeps its population, as most of it is made of infantile, trash spewing idiots...oh...looks like one of them is posting here.
Mercs are there to make soloing easier, and they stop being effective post 75, its also nice to be able to have a FG with 3 friends.
Sorry, you dont have the best from EQ in your game. EQ has content, wow...well...doesnt. My guild wanted to try the new WoW expansion raiding. So we made our guild, leveled our toons, and went into naxx. With fresh 80's we cleared the entire zone in the first week. Only thing we didnt manage was Malygos, and 3 drake Sarth. Thats with NEW 80's. So 90% of WoW's new patch content killed in 2 days with fresh toons... lets compare that to EQ, how many dozens and dozens of raid content bosses do we have? How long does it take to do? How many top end raiding guilds in WoW are bored off their asses? How many top end raiding guilds in EQ are still raiding their asses off due to content?
Okay then... lets move on to cheating.
Are there some ass hats that cheat in EQ? Sure. Are there some ass hats that cheat in WoW? Yep. What affects me more? Pretty much neither of them. If you want to teleport to a raid instance instantly, well you go right ahead. If your caught sony will ban you, and quite honestly, this is only an issue on the progression servers were everyones trying to be first. Screw first. You guys have fun with your race, Ill sit back and enjoy the game, so in 3 weeks Im still enjoying it, when you are bored cause you've done it all. (unless your playing wow... in which case a guild of quadrapalegics could beat Naxx in a week)
World of Warcraft players are laughing at the wreckage of SOE broken games with no players. You can't even get enough people together to form a GROUP let alone a RAID. The reason no one plays is because the games suck, you just have to accept it like the rest of us and move on to the superior games put out by Blizzard, soon Diablo 3 will release and EQ1 and EQ2 will lose more players, and they barely function now. You can't complete raids in EQ in two days because of lack of players, EQ raids were stupidly easy, and none of the games has a hard raid.
To clarify further I don't play World of Warcraft or Everquest, I have played both though. I quit Everquest due to disgust with SOE. I quit WoW because of lack of time to dedicate to the game, IT IS GROSSLY SUPERIOR TO SOE's LINE OF FLOPS!
World of Warcraft players are laughing at the wreckage of SOE broken games with no players. You can't even get enough people together to form a GROUP let alone a RAID. The reason no one plays is because the games suck, you just have to accept it like the rest of us and move on to the superior games put out by Blizzard, soon Diablo 3 will release and EQ1 and EQ2 will lose more players, and they barely function now. You can't complete raids in EQ in two days because of lack of players, EQ raids were stupidly easy, and none of the games has a hard raid.
Thats rather amusing. The amount of ignorance in your post is flat out mind boggling.
The TEST server of EQ1 has more players playing on it then the last low pop server Dentarg I transfered off of.
There are also many raid guilds still trucking along and raiding nightly... so not sure where you are getting that info from.
Also, just to help you out there, superior does not equal more players. WoW simply made a product that was appealing to the NON mmo gamers and brought them in. WoW is pretty much the easiest gameplay, worst pvp, and worst community of any mmo.
And, if you think Naxx is harder than EQ1 raids...well then you might want to get yourself drug tested.
Prove to us EQ is better, get some players or shut up. The game has had cheaters in it and nothing was done to them. Heck the first player to 80 in WoW, oops banned. You can cheat in EQ and nothing happens, I knew a player who duped 1 million pp when you could bind in the arena and die to a DoT while LD and have two bodies when you logged back in and he got a one week suspension. WoW someone was swearing in open chat and got banned the second time.
I met more asshats in EQ is the first week I played that crappy game then I did in years playing WoW, instancing tends to do that. You have a Necromancer and can't AFK level him? Man you must not be a very good player. Thats how you level in EQ, ask the hordes of Necros/Mages who did it, AFK. Just park on a mob spawn spot and your pet kills them, EQ was really dumb having mobs only spawn in one spot.
BTW Captain Obvious, WoW brought in a lot of non-MMORPG players, it had to with 12 million players. EQ also lost a lot of players to WoW, thats why EQ combined servers right after WoW launched. Maybe if EQ had not as sucked as bad as it did it would have had even more players for WoW to steal.
You do of course realize that most of that 12 million is asian right?
You also realize that EQ was the one that created raiding, and was just like wow in its number 1 slot for many many years, and other than wow has the second highest subs of all time?
EQ is also almost 10 years old... so yeah they are going to be merging servers, its natural for the pop to die down, the games old.
At least SOE is willing to merge servers where WoW is perfectly happy letting servers stagnate at unbearable population numbers were folks really cant form a raid at all.
Are there cheaters in EQ? yes. Do they get left alone and as rampant as you say? No. Is SOE as fast an vigilante as WoW? No probably not, there is something to be said for having a half billion monthly revenue.
But saying its over run with cheaters is as blatantly false as me saying WoW is over run with cheaters. Both games have their issues. Both ban cheaters.
And there are many raiding guilds that are still happily chugging along, take a look at Triton... they dont seem to have any issues raiding, Unintended Consequences on Test is also raiding, and thats just two of the well known guilds, tehre are plenty of others.
Prove to us EQ is better, get some players or shut up. The game has had cheaters in it and nothing was done to them. Heck the first player to 80 in WoW, oops banned. You can cheat in EQ and nothing happens, I knew a player who duped 1 million pp when you could bind in the arena and die to a DoT while LD and have two bodies when you logged back in and he got a one week suspension. WoW someone was swearing in open chat and got banned the second time. I met more asshats in EQ is the first week I played that crappy game then I did in years playing WoW, instancing tends to do that. You have a Necromancer and can't AFK level him? Man you must not be a very good player. Thats how you level in EQ, ask the hordes of Necros/Mages who did it, AFK. Just park on a mob spawn spot and your pet kills them, EQ was really dumb having mobs only spawn in one spot. BTW Captain Obvious, WoW brought in a lot of non-MMORPG players, it had to with 12 million players. EQ also lost a lot of players to WoW, thats why EQ combined servers right after WoW launched. Maybe if EQ had not as sucked as bad as it did it would have had even more players for WoW to steal.
Wow does not have 12 million players. Wow has 12 million subs. I GAURANTEE that at LEAST 2-3 million of those are gold farmer subs. And EQ1 is MUCH more hardcore than wow will ever HOPE to be in one of its dreams. And im not sure if you realise this, but wow spawns are pretty static as well, in fact most mobs dont even wander. At least in EQ, the mob spawns in one place but if it starts wandering good luck finding a route it takes.
and BTW captain obvious, the non-mmo players piss a lot of us hardcore gamers off with their stupid trade chat bullshit and their knowledge of nothing but Halo. EQ lost a lot of players to wow, sure. Wow lost a lot of players to AOC and WAR as well. WoW lost a lot of players when wrath launched. If everquest truly sucked as bad as it did, according to you, i doubt it would be going on ten....count then TEN years and still producing expansions and new raid content that isnt repeats of retarded fights you did a year ago. I mean really, 10-25 man naxx? COME ON! Let me just redo the same friggen fights i did back when they were hard. They didnt even change the zone almost at all, all they did was update the graphics, tweak the fights, and change the dmg and hp output. WOW, so hard. GO BLIZZARD!
I don't want to sift through the thread to find what's already been said, so I'll say from experience.
Hacking doesn't really matter much in EQ unless you're PvPing. If MacroQuest is still around, then hacking in PvP is probably still running rampant. Teleports, insta-gates, insta-camps, map hacks to show where everyone was, or where all the mobs were.. etc..
I guess that could affect PvE to an extent, but most of the time it probably won't hinder your ability to play the game properly. That said, PvE hackers are probably far and between, where as a lot of people hack on the PvP server.
I won't lie, I've hacked in EQ before (on Rallos Zek, and then Zek when they merged), but that was because it was a game I really didn't care about. I was just there to kill people, not to actually play the game because I dislike raiding styles of gameplay. Haven't played the game in a couple years though, so whatever.
Prove to us EQ is better, get some players or shut up. The game has had cheaters in it and nothing was done to them. Heck the first player to 80 in WoW, oops banned. You can cheat in EQ and nothing happens, I knew a player who duped 1 million pp when you could bind in the arena and die to a DoT while LD and have two bodies when you logged back in and he got a one week suspension. WoW someone was swearing in open chat and got banned the second time. I met more asshats in EQ is the first week I played that crappy game then I did in years playing WoW, instancing tends to do that. You have a Necromancer and can't AFK level him? Man you must not be a very good player. Thats how you level in EQ, ask the hordes of Necros/Mages who did it, AFK. Just park on a mob spawn spot and your pet kills them, EQ was really dumb having mobs only spawn in one spot. BTW Captain Obvious, WoW brought in a lot of non-MMORPG players, it had to with 12 million players. EQ also lost a lot of players to WoW, thats why EQ combined servers right after WoW launched. Maybe if EQ had not as sucked as bad as it did it would have had even more players for WoW to steal.
Wow does not have 12 million players. Wow has 12 million subs. I GAURANTEE that at LEAST 2-3 million of those are gold farmer subs. And EQ1 is MUCH more hardcore than wow will ever HOPE to be in one of its dreams. And im not sure if you realise this, but wow spawns are pretty static as well, in fact most mobs dont even wander. At least in EQ, the mob spawns in one place but if it starts wandering good luck finding a route it takes.
and BTW captain obvious, the non-mmo players piss a lot of us hardcore gamers off with their stupid trade chat bullshit and their knowledge of nothing but Halo. EQ lost a lot of players to wow, sure. Wow lost a lot of players to AOC and WAR as well. WoW lost a lot of players when wrath launched. If everquest truly sucked as bad as it did, according to you, i doubt it would be going on ten....count then TEN years and still producing expansions and new raid content that isnt repeats of retarded fights you did a year ago. I mean really, 10-25 man naxx? COME ON! Let me just redo the same friggen fights i did back when they were hard. They didnt even change the zone almost at all, all they did was update the graphics, tweak the fights, and change the dmg and hp output. WOW, so hard. GO BLIZZARD!
The topic is about cheating, now answer this, NAME A PLAYER SOE HAS BANNED FOR CHEATING! YOU CAN'T CAN YOU! BECAUSE THEY DON"T BAN IS WHY. THEY HAVE SO FEW RETARDS PLAYING THEIR CRAPPY GAME THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO. TWO PEOPLE OUT OF A WHOLE LIKE 8 POSTERS ADMITTING TO CHEATING AND THEY GOT NO OR MINOR PUNISHMENT! 2 out of 8 is way to many for a cheating post. You aren't even close to being hardcore poser, hardcore players play PvP, PVE is to easy in every game, the only PVE game remotely close is Diablo 2 hardcore. Furor was hardcore and so was Thott, they work for and play Blizzards MASTERPIECE not the turd EQ.
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
I know quite a few people who were banned for Macroquesting. In fact, i could list off about 5 names right now of people that i know PERSONALLY that got banned for doing it, but i wont because it wont make any difference.
Me being a hardcore poser? PLEASE. Oldschool everquest WAS hardcore. Most people found it stupid that you had to wait for 45 minutes to catch a boat, me, i LOVED it. Running for hours to get to another city. The realism blew my mind. Getting you body stuck at the bottom of a dungeon and KNOWING that you couldnt sleep until you got it back or you might risk losing all your gear. THATS hardcore. Not walking 5 minutes, grabbing a flight path, and doing shit the easy way. And you have obviously never been into Sol"terrace (forgive my spelling if its wrong) if you dont think pve in everquest was hardcore. The reason people blew through the prog server is because they had already farmed that stuff for months upon release. Immagine if blizzard did a prog server, people would be back into wrath in a matter of a month or two, pending that they still had attunments removed.
The topic is about cheating, now answer this, NAME A PLAYER SOE HAS BANNED FOR CHEATING! YOU CAN'T CAN YOU! BECAUSE THEY DON"T BAN IS WHY. THEY HAVE SO FEW RETARDS PLAYING THEIR CRAPPY GAME THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO. TWO PEOPLE OUT OF A WHOLE LIKE 8 POSTERS ADMITTING TO CHEATING AND THEY GOT NO OR MINOR PUNISHMENT! 2 out of 8 is way to many for a cheating post. You aren't even close to being hardcore poser, hardcore players play PvP, PVE is to easy in every game, the only PVE game remotely close is Diablo 2 hardcore. Furor was hardcore and so was Thott, they work for and play Blizzards MASTERPIECE not the turd EQ.
I cant name anybody who has been banned in any of the two games. Can you?
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Its pretty bad.
I was playing it about a month ago and they had something called GhostKilling, you could target something like "Emporor Ssasra" and go down to the entrance and start attacking from there safely. I cant tell you how they looted it or how it even worked, it was all second hand information but that was the big nasty hack, the rest of them were trivial. I never ran into anyone doing it and have only heard of a few people accused while in game of doing it. It played just like EQ always had and the Ghostkill thing was never an issue for the guild I was in, we raided Plane of Time, Anguish, etc just like the old days....well with uber gear compared to the old days but it was still fun.
Some idiots on this site bash World of Warcraft, and I know why. They are Ghost hackers in EQ and SOE turns a blind eye while Blizzard banned their arses. SOE doesn't care as long as you pay to play, Blizzard bans you.
You are misguided and seriously need a reality check. SOE will ban your ass if you are caught. I seen alot of people get banned for using hacks. And if you want to talk about how fast blizzard bans people take that crap to Blizzards forum. I and the rest of the EQ players could care less because it doesn't solve our problems.
As for the hacks i know in EQ are just hacks that let you know of what stuff is spawned or not. And i did see people macro killing which is annoying. But if your smart enough u can beat the macro'ers because they leave it running. EQ is a old game and alot of people have had alot of time to hack the code and get into the game. But i dont think that the hacking effects anyone as a whole IMHO.
I played on both The Sleeper and later The Combine and honestly I never saw anyone hacking. I'm sure it happened and everyone claims to know someone banned for it. I just personnaly never ran into it. I think the term "hacking" get thrown around way too much. If you are camping a random spawn named and someone who just zoned in happens to kill him he must have hacked right? I mean none of us ever just happened to find a name up as we were passing through a zone right?
Grr typos.
Daragoth
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill
I haven't played EQ in years and years, however my younger brother (who's 24) still plays and has numerous maxed characters. He cheats like a bandit. He showed me this one program he had that basiclly allowed him to teleport to any zone he wanted and still let's it register as going through the proper zones as far as the server was concerned. Basically he could go from A through D instantonsly but make the server think he also went through B and C. He could also going invis both from mobs and players (and not spell invis, but complete invis, no aggro from *anything*) I think it at the very least takes a dual box setup and possibly linux on one of the machines. Personally I think SOE probablly knows very much about it, but this day in age probably most the games population is cheating in some shape or form, so they turn a blind eye. That's just my two cents though.
Heltern is right, I cheated in EQ, I used a no drop transfer hack. My punishment after doing it for YEARRS, a two week suspension. BULLCRAP SOE DOES ANYTHING TO YOU ABOUT CHEATING! I was a raider, and EVERY Monk puller used showEQ, or you weren't a Monk puller, and Monks aren't great DPS, so you weren't in a raiding guild as a Monk UNLESS you cheated! Otherwise you were ORDERED by the leaders of your guild to get showEQ. MMORPG is full of liars, pro-SOE liars, World of Warcraft and Blizzard do 100 times more to stop hacks and cheats, PERIOD!
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
Over generalize much? Every monk puller didn't use ShowEQ. All guild leaders didn't order their monk pullers to hack. Maybe in your circle of "hacker, can't make it if I play by the rules,ruin the game for everyone" friends all the monks cheated. But don't try to justify what you did by thinking everyone does it. Face it, most likely you sucked as a player and had to cheat to do what more skilled players than yourself could do legit.
Daragoth
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill
Is second the sentiment that you are a shameless cheater who should be shunned by all.
My younger brother used to try and cheat when we played board games. I explained to him he was only cheating himself and that I would refuse to play with him if he didn't stop. I hope you gave your brother similar advice.
The hacking was realtively underground because EQ players often got angry when they discovered hackers. It wasn't something you wore on your sleeve. Personally I was in a guild in which the leader had crazy hacks that woudl let him teleport to any zoneline on either side, or automaticly rezz himself as though he were a cleric with the 100% AA...without even being in the zone >_>. He once asked me to help him do something and to just log onto his other account and kill myself anywhere. I was then rezzed in another zone with my body teleported as well and was told to loot something. There were several other less severe, but EQ is very insecure. Most people who play EQ are the types who like the game as a game or a challenge and do not cheat, but i was awfully dissapointed to see that EQ was so compromised. I cancled my account soon after finding out just how badly my guild-leader could manipulate the game.
You are talking out of your ass, PERIOD.
Your sig shows that you are talking out of your ass because it is obvious that you dont like EQ so you are just jumping on the negative as soon as you can.
The fact that you prefer WoW to EQ means that you want to play a game that holds your hand and tells you exactly what to do all the time so you dont have to think for yourself. Have fun with that, though i think it is pathetic.
The fact that you actually said that MMORPG is full of Pro-SOE people makes you a complete asshat.
I happen to know that a lot of ROI members on the combine use Macroquest (a form of hacking program) along with a few of the other lesser guilds on that server. No names will be given, but i know quit a few people from that guild IRL
The one talking out there ass is YOU, did your widdle game get critizided? Can't handle it? WoW has kicked EQ and and EQ2 asses for YEARS now! As for the hand holding does your widdle game have mercs now? Was it to hard to find a group? Was your character underpowered because you weren't able to hack raiding? No such problems in WoW, WE can raid and have the best from EQ in OUR game! I think its pathetic the little babies playing SOE games can't handle that SOE looks the other way when cheating goes on. BTW, ROI was disbanded on Stromm for CHEATING. Then SOE allowed them to restart on the Combine server and just cheat again, that is SOE for you, anything to make a $.
I played early EQ, it sucked, and Monks and other classes DID use macros and showEQ to pull, it is and continues to be a fact.
The one talking out there ass is YOU, did your widdle game get critizided? Can't handle it? WoW has kicked EQ and and EQ2 asses for YEARS now! As for the hand holding does your widdle game have mercs now? Was it to hard to find a group? Was your character underpowered because you weren't able to hack raiding? No such problems in WoW, WE can raid and have the best from EQ in OUR game! I think its pathetic the little babies playing SOE games can't handle that SOE looks the other way when cheating goes on. BTW, ROI was disbanded on Stromm for CHEATING. Then SOE allowed them to restart on the Combine server and just cheat again, that is SOE for you, anything to make a $.
Actually... seems you are going postal cause someone criticized your game and you cant handle it.
Believe it or not, not everyone walks around and wears their MMO's sub numbers on their sleeves, in fact, most people HOPE WoW keeps its population, as most of it is made of infantile, trash spewing idiots...oh...looks like one of them is posting here.
Mercs are there to make soloing easier, and they stop being effective post 75, its also nice to be able to have a FG with 3 friends.
Sorry, you dont have the best from EQ in your game. EQ has content, wow...well...doesnt. My guild wanted to try the new WoW expansion raiding. So we made our guild, leveled our toons, and went into naxx. With fresh 80's we cleared the entire zone in the first week. Only thing we didnt manage was Malygos, and 3 drake Sarth. Thats with NEW 80's. So 90% of WoW's new patch content killed in 2 days with fresh toons... lets compare that to EQ, how many dozens and dozens of raid content bosses do we have? How long does it take to do? How many top end raiding guilds in WoW are bored off their asses? How many top end raiding guilds in EQ are still raiding their asses off due to content?
Okay then... lets move on to cheating.
Are there some ass hats that cheat in EQ? Sure. Are there some ass hats that cheat in WoW? Yep. What affects me more? Pretty much neither of them. If you want to teleport to a raid instance instantly, well you go right ahead. If your caught sony will ban you, and quite honestly, this is only an issue on the progression servers were everyones trying to be first. Screw first. You guys have fun with your race, Ill sit back and enjoy the game, so in 3 weeks Im still enjoying it, when you are bored cause you've done it all. (unless your playing wow... in which case a guild of quadrapalegics could beat Naxx in a week)
World of Warcraft players are laughing at the wreckage of SOE broken games with no players. You can't even get enough people together to form a GROUP let alone a RAID. The reason no one plays is because the games suck, you just have to accept it like the rest of us and move on to the superior games put out by Blizzard, soon Diablo 3 will release and EQ1 and EQ2 will lose more players, and they barely function now. You can't complete raids in EQ in two days because of lack of players, EQ raids were stupidly easy, and none of the games has a hard raid.
To clarify further I don't play World of Warcraft or Everquest, I have played both though. I quit Everquest due to disgust with SOE. I quit WoW because of lack of time to dedicate to the game, IT IS GROSSLY SUPERIOR TO SOE's LINE OF FLOPS!
Thats rather amusing. The amount of ignorance in your post is flat out mind boggling.
The TEST server of EQ1 has more players playing on it then the last low pop server Dentarg I transfered off of.
There are also many raid guilds still trucking along and raiding nightly... so not sure where you are getting that info from.
Also, just to help you out there, superior does not equal more players. WoW simply made a product that was appealing to the NON mmo gamers and brought them in. WoW is pretty much the easiest gameplay, worst pvp, and worst community of any mmo.
And, if you think Naxx is harder than EQ1 raids...well then you might want to get yourself drug tested.
Prove to us EQ is better, get some players or shut up. The game has had cheaters in it and nothing was done to them. Heck the first player to 80 in WoW, oops banned. You can cheat in EQ and nothing happens, I knew a player who duped 1 million pp when you could bind in the arena and die to a DoT while LD and have two bodies when you logged back in and he got a one week suspension. WoW someone was swearing in open chat and got banned the second time.
I met more asshats in EQ is the first week I played that crappy game then I did in years playing WoW, instancing tends to do that. You have a Necromancer and can't AFK level him? Man you must not be a very good player. Thats how you level in EQ, ask the hordes of Necros/Mages who did it, AFK. Just park on a mob spawn spot and your pet kills them, EQ was really dumb having mobs only spawn in one spot.
BTW Captain Obvious, WoW brought in a lot of non-MMORPG players, it had to with 12 million players. EQ also lost a lot of players to WoW, thats why EQ combined servers right after WoW launched. Maybe if EQ had not as sucked as bad as it did it would have had even more players for WoW to steal.
You do of course realize that most of that 12 million is asian right?
You also realize that EQ was the one that created raiding, and was just like wow in its number 1 slot for many many years, and other than wow has the second highest subs of all time?
EQ is also almost 10 years old... so yeah they are going to be merging servers, its natural for the pop to die down, the games old.
At least SOE is willing to merge servers where WoW is perfectly happy letting servers stagnate at unbearable population numbers were folks really cant form a raid at all.
Are there cheaters in EQ? yes. Do they get left alone and as rampant as you say? No. Is SOE as fast an vigilante as WoW? No probably not, there is something to be said for having a half billion monthly revenue.
But saying its over run with cheaters is as blatantly false as me saying WoW is over run with cheaters. Both games have their issues. Both ban cheaters.
And there are many raiding guilds that are still happily chugging along, take a look at Triton... they dont seem to have any issues raiding, Unintended Consequences on Test is also raiding, and thats just two of the well known guilds, tehre are plenty of others.
have resubscribed at the moment, haven't really noticed any hacking yet. Damn and who let the trolls in this thread.
Wow does not have 12 million players. Wow has 12 million subs. I GAURANTEE that at LEAST 2-3 million of those are gold farmer subs. And EQ1 is MUCH more hardcore than wow will ever HOPE to be in one of its dreams. And im not sure if you realise this, but wow spawns are pretty static as well, in fact most mobs dont even wander. At least in EQ, the mob spawns in one place but if it starts wandering good luck finding a route it takes.
and BTW captain obvious, the non-mmo players piss a lot of us hardcore gamers off with their stupid trade chat bullshit and their knowledge of nothing but Halo. EQ lost a lot of players to wow, sure. Wow lost a lot of players to AOC and WAR as well. WoW lost a lot of players when wrath launched. If everquest truly sucked as bad as it did, according to you, i doubt it would be going on ten....count then TEN years and still producing expansions and new raid content that isnt repeats of retarded fights you did a year ago. I mean really, 10-25 man naxx? COME ON! Let me just redo the same friggen fights i did back when they were hard. They didnt even change the zone almost at all, all they did was update the graphics, tweak the fights, and change the dmg and hp output. WOW, so hard. GO BLIZZARD!
I don't want to sift through the thread to find what's already been said, so I'll say from experience.
Hacking doesn't really matter much in EQ unless you're PvPing. If MacroQuest is still around, then hacking in PvP is probably still running rampant. Teleports, insta-gates, insta-camps, map hacks to show where everyone was, or where all the mobs were.. etc..
I guess that could affect PvE to an extent, but most of the time it probably won't hinder your ability to play the game properly. That said, PvE hackers are probably far and between, where as a lot of people hack on the PvP server.
I won't lie, I've hacked in EQ before (on Rallos Zek, and then Zek when they merged), but that was because it was a game I really didn't care about. I was just there to kill people, not to actually play the game because I dislike raiding styles of gameplay. Haven't played the game in a couple years though, so whatever.
Wow does not have 12 million players. Wow has 12 million subs. I GAURANTEE that at LEAST 2-3 million of those are gold farmer subs. And EQ1 is MUCH more hardcore than wow will ever HOPE to be in one of its dreams. And im not sure if you realise this, but wow spawns are pretty static as well, in fact most mobs dont even wander. At least in EQ, the mob spawns in one place but if it starts wandering good luck finding a route it takes.
and BTW captain obvious, the non-mmo players piss a lot of us hardcore gamers off with their stupid trade chat bullshit and their knowledge of nothing but Halo. EQ lost a lot of players to wow, sure. Wow lost a lot of players to AOC and WAR as well. WoW lost a lot of players when wrath launched. If everquest truly sucked as bad as it did, according to you, i doubt it would be going on ten....count then TEN years and still producing expansions and new raid content that isnt repeats of retarded fights you did a year ago. I mean really, 10-25 man naxx? COME ON! Let me just redo the same friggen fights i did back when they were hard. They didnt even change the zone almost at all, all they did was update the graphics, tweak the fights, and change the dmg and hp output. WOW, so hard. GO BLIZZARD!
The topic is about cheating, now answer this, NAME A PLAYER SOE HAS BANNED FOR CHEATING! YOU CAN'T CAN YOU! BECAUSE THEY DON"T BAN IS WHY. THEY HAVE SO FEW RETARDS PLAYING THEIR CRAPPY GAME THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO. TWO PEOPLE OUT OF A WHOLE LIKE 8 POSTERS ADMITTING TO CHEATING AND THEY GOT NO OR MINOR PUNISHMENT! 2 out of 8 is way to many for a cheating post. You aren't even close to being hardcore poser, hardcore players play PvP, PVE is to easy in every game, the only PVE game remotely close is Diablo 2 hardcore. Furor was hardcore and so was Thott, they work for and play Blizzards MASTERPIECE not the turd EQ.
If you have any questions please ask. I have moved on to WoW from eq and no longer have any desire to play a dead game. Thank you. (posted by another selling his account in EQ1)
I know quite a few people who were banned for Macroquesting. In fact, i could list off about 5 names right now of people that i know PERSONALLY that got banned for doing it, but i wont because it wont make any difference.
Me being a hardcore poser? PLEASE. Oldschool everquest WAS hardcore. Most people found it stupid that you had to wait for 45 minutes to catch a boat, me, i LOVED it. Running for hours to get to another city. The realism blew my mind. Getting you body stuck at the bottom of a dungeon and KNOWING that you couldnt sleep until you got it back or you might risk losing all your gear. THATS hardcore. Not walking 5 minutes, grabbing a flight path, and doing shit the easy way. And you have obviously never been into Sol"terrace (forgive my spelling if its wrong) if you dont think pve in everquest was hardcore. The reason people blew through the prog server is because they had already farmed that stuff for months upon release. Immagine if blizzard did a prog server, people would be back into wrath in a matter of a month or two, pending that they still had attunments removed.
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I cant name anybody who has been banned in any of the two games. Can you?