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iv got a questions for the naysayers
ok so im not a fanboy or a troll. i got pulled into a fight on this forums today cause of some mean stuff that was said. im not here to trah talk anyone or nothing. i really have no opinion of this game, my question is this i
if the game has not been realeased why do you hate it so much? you never played it. i mean if you have a good reason like the devopers killed my parents then yeah burn the studio down for all i care. i just want to know why its so important to trash a game that you ahvnt played and you dont want to play? dont you have better things to do?
and im sorry if i came off as a prick
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It's not the game itself that some people hate.
What people DO hate is misleading information, lies, and BS told to the fans for five years by the Associate producer named Tasos and then the fans being so blind that even after all that, they still act as if every word he says is gospel. The fans also acting as if this game is the second coming of Christ and attacking anyone who even has any skepticism or doubts as if they are the devil is what makes the fan base of this game very ugly indeed.
- Zaxx
ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
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ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?
- Zaxx
I agree. Also, why talk about politics? I mean you have never met the guys who run, and you probably don't have any plans to meet them? /sarcasm.
There are quite a few answers (that come to my mind as to why I talk about games I haven't played, whether I like the sound of em or not).
1) To pass time. I visit the boards from time to time and open random threads in the "recent posts" and view the entry post, and then a couple of the replys and if I feel like I have an opinion (whether its good or bad) I decide to post it. If you don't like that I post something negative using the information that I have collected then too bad for you, cause its just an opinion, and you most likely won't change it without hard evidence and good logic. (Saying things like "troll" or "oh my god stop talking" dont constitute as solid arguments)
2) Because like it or not, this game is going to make an impact. If it's good, then it will be a nice plus for indie developers as well as sandbox game titles. However, if its a second Dark & Light it may cause the big financial backers to stop backing small indie developers, as well as lean away from sandbox game. Games like Mortal online might end up losing funding, as well as any future games that might turn out well.
Am I saying that Darkfall doing badly WILL have those effects? no, but is it POSSIBLE? yes.
3) Because sometimes when doing 1(passing time) I see completely idiotic posts by fanbois, and I mean really unlogical statements that make you think "are they cult members?", to which I find I have a DUTY to post back and correct their stupidity. By stupidity do I mean any time someone says Darkfall will be a success? no (I happen to think that darkfall will do all right, and hope to play it some day, when it comes out), I am talking about people who seam to think that the game can do the impossible, that it can bring the second coming of jesus, and to which I must play the antichrist.
Those are just a couple reason that I some times post negatively about Darkfall.
ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?
- Zaxx
point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.
my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want
I'm Here. I'm Awesome. Get Used To It.
ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
Why do you care?
I agree. Also, why talk about politics? I mean you have never met the guys who run, and you probably don't have any plans to meet them? /sarcasm.
There are quite a few answers (that come to my mind as to why I talk about games I haven't played, whether I like the sound of em or not).
1) To pass time. I visit the boards from time to time and open random threads in the "recent posts" and view the entry post, and then a couple of the replys and if I feel like I have an opinion (whether its good or bad) I decide to post it. If you don't like that I post something negative using the information that I have collected then too bad for you, cause its just an opinion, and you most likely won't change it without hard evidence and good logic. (Saying things like "troll" or "oh my god stop talking" dont constitute as solid arguments)
2) Because like it or not, this game is going to make an impact. If it's good, then it will be a nice plus for indie developers as well as sandbox game titles. However, if its a second Dark & Light it may cause the big financial backers to stop backing small indie developers, as well as lean away from sandbox game. Games like Mortal online might end up losing funding, as well as any future games that might turn out well.
Am I saying that Darkfall doing badly WILL have those effects? no, but is it POSSIBLE? yes.
3) Because sometimes when doing 1(passing time) I see completely idiotic posts by fanbois, and I mean really unlogical statements that make you think "are they cult members?", to which I find I have a DUTY to post back and correct their stupidity. By stupidity do I mean any time someone says Darkfall will be a success? no (I happen to think that darkfall will do all right, and hope to play it some day, when it comes out), I am talking about people who seam to think that the game can do the impossible, that it can bring the second coming of jesus, and to which I must play the antichrist.
Those are just a couple reason that I some times post negatively about Darkfall.
lol ill give you the first one but if you return to the same forums day after day to trah talk it thats what i dont get lol. the 2nd one i mean yeah that could very well be true but what is the point of trashtalking the game. its not going to do anything. and the 3rd one i ignore stupid peole but if you want to knock them lowere then they already are be my guest.
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ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
Why do you care?
because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?
I'm Here. I'm Awesome. Get Used To It.
ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
Why do you care?
because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?
Or are you trolling this forum? Anyway, use the search, there are other threads asking the same question, from curious people as you..
ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?
- Zaxx
point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.
my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want
Sorry, but this OP Fails Hard, read a little back ground before you ask people why their angry.
WTH do you expect, when this game was announced everyone was excited as hell for it,but the game designers lied, and made up so much bs, almost everyone pissed, except the die hard fanboys who think this is normal
Here ya go OP Shanks123... Maybe this link will offer you the insight you seek. However I still think you are doing nothing more then trying to flame bait and start yet another war thread. You've already gotten answers here, but you just keep asking "why?" as if the lack of flames hasn't satisfied you.
Read this very similar thread: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/222639/Curious-about-haters.html
- Zaxx
ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
Why do you care?
because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?
Or are you trolling this forum? Anyway, use the search, there are other threads asking the same question, from curious people as you..
i still dont see how im trolling. your trolling by saying im trolling. do people even know the real definition of troll anymore i mean come on.
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ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
Why do you care?
because im curious what would drive people to do such a thing. havent you ever been curious before?
Or are you trolling this forum? Anyway, use the search, there are other threads asking the same question, from curious people as you..
i still dont see how im trolling. your trolling by saying im trolling. do people even know the real definition of troll anymore i mean come on.
I'll tell you how you're trolling--this topic has absolutely nothing to do with Darkfall.
point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.
my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want
You are baiting but that is ok I'll play along. Why does this game get so much hate. Well it's a combination of a lot of different things.
1. People feel they have been lied to and are still being lied to. Being lied to usually pissed people off. I know me and my guild signed up for guild beta in 2003 which was right around the corner. We gave up and moved on.
2. The DF fanbois are pretty obnoxious. Not saying (insert game here)'s fanbois aren't obnoxious too but the DF ones have taken it to a whole new level.
3. Using your church analogy. If said religious people were constantly at your door step scream the second coming is upon us. You must follow us blindly or you are a complete dumb ass. Then yes you should be out at their door step on Sunday in return.
4. The development team has not been very forth coming with information and lets be honest some of the interviews they have given they sound like complete ego maniacs.
5. And of course some people just like to hate on anything and everything.
ok which brings another queation. why do you care? if they want to believe every word they say let them. i mean i dont believe in religion but you dont see me outside of church on sunday yelling at everyone beling led by bull sh*t. yeah i mean some of you are proly hurt by the lies but move on with your life. people lie thats what they do
again sorry if i came off like a prick
I've answered your question.. you are simply trolling and flame baiting now. Sorry, not gonna bite. But what I will do is ask you a question in return... Why do you care enough about people who have skepticism why? Move on with your life as you say yourself, right?
- Zaxx
point me out why im a troll? all i asked is why do you care about what other people think about a game you hate. and im on a forums about the game in question so im not a troll. and i would move on but my question hasnt been answered, and its not the same anyway. iv wasted maybe 3 hours on this forums trying to figure out what everyones prolblem was. how long have you wasted naysaying this game? a game you dont even want to play.
my question still stands why does everyone care if the fanboys of this game listen to the devs. they are humans they can believe whatever they want
Sorry, but this OP Fails Hard, read a little back ground before you ask people why their angry.
WTH do you expect, when this game was announced everyone was excited as hell for it,but the game designers lied, and made up so much bs, almost everyone pissed, except the die hard fanboys who think this is normal
im not asking why your angry iv established that. you were lied to i get it i really do. what i dont get is why you people are dwelling on it like its the first time you were lied to? and here since i know someone is going to ask why are dwelling on this. cause its not the same im trying to get a legit answer out of one of you which i seem not to be able to do. you guys are dwelling on being lied to. grow up
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Bigtime /FAIL thread.
This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.
Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
Bigtime /FAIL thread.
This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.
Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
not everyone is as deperate for attention as you guys. iv got my answer and no one even actually answered. im done here. im sorry for wasting my time here. apparently everyone here thinks everyone else is trying to trool and bait each other. grow up people
peace
I'm Here. I'm Awesome. Get Used To It.
Bigtime /FAIL thread.
This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.
Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
not everyone is as deperate for attention as you guys. iv got my answer and no one even actually answered. im done here. im sorry for wasting my time here. apparently everyone here thinks everyone else is trying to trool and bait each other. grow up people
peace
ROTF. Nice try. What you mean is that you've obviously been "BUSTED" in what you tried to pull off as innocent, caring, questions. lol. Try proding the fanboys, they'll bite with much more the response you were looking for.
I dont really care one way or the other about Darkfall but I got tired of listening to people on other forums here when they would put Darkfall this and Darkfall that in every single post........If we would ask a question about EQ2, the faboys would respond "oh you need to play Darkfall its going to be the greatest game ever!!!" After reading that about 1000 times I got tired of it and looked into this game that is supposed to be so great......All I can say is thank goodness for youtube because I could see first hand what a bunch of garbage this game is........ If the game had legitimate avenues for selling and marketing its game we'd also respect it more but all this hiding and secracy just screams major scam......Even if the game had been all that these people were saying I wouldnt give a company like that a dime.
Let me explain why the skeptics in the Darkfall forums give normal skeptics a bad name:
1) I've been lied to. Really? When was that? When someone advertised something? Advertisement is a point of view, and everyone knows that. It's not really right, or wrong, and merely is meant to be a subjective enticement to get people to pay attention to something. Darkfall has lots of people's attention, so that part worked. Anything else is pure subjective nonsense that can be ignored. Example: they claim they are going into beta 3 years ago, but decide they need to do a lot more work on the game instead. Big freakin' deal.
2) Enthusiasts are obnoxious. So skeptics need to be worse? I'm a skeptic, and that doesn't work for me...
3) Fanbois are constantly screaming their propaganda. That's funny, because 90% of the posts I've read in this forum are slamming Darkfall as vaporware and fraud. It seems to me that rational skeptics should be a little more quiet and rational about their viewpoints.
4) The development team is not telling us everything. This is where I know I'm no longer dealing with skeptics, I'm dealing with fanbois who want to emotionally blackmail the development team. "I'm sorry, Mr. Tasos, but I'm going to tell everyone you are a cad if you don't let me know everything there is to know about Darkfall right now."
5) Some people are trolls. And trolls aren't necessarily skeptics.
I've been paying attention to Darkfall since the latter end of 2007. I've read nothing nor viewed any videos that makes me less interested, and I've read and viewed a lot. I'm also not going to buy Darkfall until it hits the states and I'm reasonably confident that there aren't major problems with technology and/or playerbase.
I'm a real skeptic.
Bigtime /FAIL thread.
This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.
Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
not everyone is as deperate for attention as you guys. iv got my answer and no one even actually answered. im done here. im sorry for wasting my time here. apparently everyone here thinks everyone else is trying to trool and bait each other. grow up people
peace
ROTF. Nice try. What you mean is that you've obviously been "BUSTED" in what you tried to pull off as innocent, caring, questions. lol. Try proding the fanboys, they'll bite with much more the response you were looking for.
you people rally are thick. how am i baiting? i never wanted to argue i just wanted an answer. you guys are the ones arguing at everything i post. i could post a pic of a naked women and you guys would say im baiting you. you baited me into this stupid argument when all i wanted to know was why you people waste your lives here posting about a game you hate. but i didnt say it like that i was nice about it. but now idc u guys need to grow up. join the rest of the adult world that can take a lie and dish one out even better,
now that this thread is off my watch list ill never be here again. i shouldnt of come back this time. but like that one dude said early sometimes you just see something stupid u have to reply to
I'm Here. I'm Awesome. Get Used To It.
Bigtime /FAIL thread.
This guy is like a pesky lil' brother that sees obvious frustration and then begins to pick at the wounds with stupid questions. He doesn't give a rats ass "why" people that doubt Darkfall care. He is just trying to poke and prod and get a response.
Obvious flame-baiting and trolling. Nothing more.
not everyone is as deperate for attention as you guys. iv got my answer and no one even actually answered. im done here. im sorry for wasting my time here. apparently everyone here thinks everyone else is trying to trool and bait each other. grow up people
peace
ROTF. Nice try. What you mean is that you've obviously been "BUSTED" in what you tried to pull off as innocent, caring, questions. lol. Try proding the fanboys, they'll bite with much more the response you were looking for.
you people rally are thick. how am i baiting? i never wanted to argue i just wanted an answer. you guys are the ones arguing at everything i post. i could post a pic of a naked women and you guys would say im baiting you. you baited me into this stupid argument when all i wanted to know was why you people waste your lives here posting about a game you hate. but i didnt say it like that i was nice about it. but now idc u guys need to grow up. join the rest of the adult world that can take a lie and dish one out even better,
now that this thread is off my watch list ill never be here again. i shouldnt of come back this time. but like that one dude said early sometimes you just see something stupid u have to reply to
You got to love hit and run trolls and this is what this guy is doing..
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1. When? Well as I stated before the guild I am in signed up for guild beta which was "right around the corner" in 2003. I can't even count the number of times I heard this game is more complete then anything on the market it is OMFG awesome. And yet there is barely any information and constant delays. Video are promised for January doesn't actually get released until March. Unintentional or not I can't say but we have since moved on.
2. The fanboi to troll ration are in direct correlation. The troll are so bad on the DF forum because the fanbois are so bad everywhere else.
3. Maybe if you were around longer you would of seen why there is so much hate towards this game.
4. There is a big difference between not giving information promising the world and not backing up any of the promises.
5. Some people just like to troll if you have spent anytime on gaming forums any idiot could realize that.
6. Wow since the latter of 2007. So you're coming in on the end of what has been an emotional roller coaster for many people jumping up on your soap box.
I'm no fan I'm no skeptic I simply don't care. Haven't cared for a very long time. I pop in here just to see what the new fights are about and jump in if I'm bored.
looking at the donkey years of problem ridden development, dont need a genius to figure out how badly the game will fail when it launched. I was right about AoC and WAR and i will be spot on again for darkfall. Everyone said "dont like it, dont play. this game isnt for you". LOL See what happens in the end.
There are no miracles in MMOs. There will be something in darkfall that will pissed off everyone and the game will die before its even barely crawling. I will be back after launch to laugh at the fanbois.
#looking at the youtube videos - game sucks. ppl praising it must have been playing kid games like maple story all their lives
I doubt, because I can.
I post, because people like the OP make threads like this which opens the door to my wit. I never start my own bash DF thread.
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