Rumors are circulating that people are being banned that don't even post on the Oforums and use a different nick on fansite forums than in DF. Theres only two ways to do this and thats though IPs or displayed email addys. The guy had his email addy hidden so whats going on?
Ive no idea what may be happening and while I am shocked that some forum Mods may well be co-operating with AV on this kind of thing I am in no way surprised. This bunch has displayed no ethics of any kind and I expect this to continue after release. They will do anything to hush up people telling the truth about this pos company. Bah AV makes Enron look like Mother Teressa.
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I hoped for it. Nice to see it happen. MOAR of these bans please !
Yes, you are not clear and assumptions on what you mean can be made...
So... I will make one.
Are you saying that you think this ban was good?
Really?
Because if so you have not considered it properly.
How would YOU like to be banned from the Darkfall forums by a griefer?
How?
Easy:
Step one: Go to the Ten Ton Hammer Forum and create an account under the name "DarthRaiden" (None exists at the time of writing - I just checked member list there)
Step two: Post something like "LOLZ... Darkfall suxxor and the Mods Suxxor too! I iz DarthRaiden and I likes to troll the trolls at MMORPG.com but I knowz the Game Suxxor..."
Step three: Send an anonymous email from a hotmail or yahoo account to the Darkfall mods linking 'your' post there (the fake one) and a real post here. If possible match that to you DF account too.
Rumors are circulating that people are being banned that don't even post on the Oforums and use a different nick on fansite forums than in DF. Theres only two ways to do this and thats though IPs or displayed email addys. The guy had his email addy hidden so whats going on? Ive no idea what may be happening and while I am shocked that some forum Mods may well be co-operating with AV on this kind of thing I am in no way surprised. This bunch has displayed no ethics of any kind and I expect this to continue after release. They will do anything to hush up people telling the truth about this pos company. Bah AV makes Enron look like Mother Teressa.
I smell a rootkit . . .
I can hear it now, "Adventurine, a name in the MMO business, has been found guilty of harvesting personal information from its customers for personal gains. This information included credit card information, personal banking information, family relations, and most commonly visited pornographic sites. An interview with Tasos Flambouras has concluded that he had no idea customer's information was being taken and directed the blame toward Ricki Sickenger. Tasos plans to take a vacation to the moon in is newly acquired Space Transportation System which he is claiming NASA has gifted to him."
Yep, I am bored and at work . . .
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I hoped for it. Nice to see it happen. MOAR of these bans please !
Yes, you are not clear and assumptions on what you mean can be made...
So... I will make one.
Are you saying that you think this ban was good?
Really?
Because if so you have not considered it properly.
How would YOU like to be banned from the Darkfall forums by a griefer?
How?
Easy:
Step one: Go to the Ten Ton Hammer Forum and create an account under the name "DarthRaiden" (None exists at the time of writing - I just checked member list there)
Step two: Post something like "LOLZ... Darkfall suxxor and the Mods Suxxor too! I iz DarthRaiden and I likes to troll the trolls at MMORPG.com but I knowz the Game Suxxor..."
Step three: Send an anonymous email from a hotmail or yahoo account to the Darkfall mods linking 'your' post there (the fake one) and a real post here. If possible match that to you DF account too.
Do you still think this is a good idea?
Wow Gyrus I believe in the matter of a few minutes you have created a game that AV would take years to make......Ban the fanboy!!!
I can see how fun this will be and easy given the intellegence shown by most fanboys and the devs / mods at AV. I would bet most fanboys are using the same handles everywhere and also don't know how to reset their DHCP connection to change their IP addy now and then.
Lets see which one shall I start with??? hhhmmmmm.......
wow everyday more and more rumors pop up about darkfall and av. Imo i think its alright if they ban the poeple that dont follow the NDA but if their banning critics than thats just lame.
Okay, so you don't see what else there is to discuss. Others do. Topics here don't require your personal "Seal of Worthiness" in order to take place. If you're done here, then I'm sure there are plenty of other threads you could follow instead. Why do you choose to stay in a thread you feel has run its course? That was a rhetorical question by the way.
I dont do rhetorical well.
Im still here because i find humor in the drivel of others.
But HEY, i know when im not wanted!!!! lol
NOoo! Don't Go! I'm sure many people here besides myself find it very amusing the amount of time and effort you put into posting about how you don't care about this thread and QQ'ing about how it shouldn't exist. Carry on soldier!
I hoped for it. Nice to see it happen. MOAR of these bans please !
Because silence is golden and you can't tolerate open discussion thats not pro DF? BTW its MORE not "MOAR" not trying to be the spelling police honest (I have read your posts for well over a year now without correcting you) but its always good to learn new things.
Sad Darth I thought you had kinda gotten over being the rabid fanbois that believed everything Tasos said and defended Aventurine to the death in all things.
I dont know if DF is guilty of what is being accused of them, but it is not the first time I have heard such things happening on MBs. Most of it starts from issues between two users. They find a bashing post on another forum from the person they dislike, send link to a mod they believe is anal retentive enough to carry out their wishes. I know from personal experience (I have been moderating MBs since 1999) that this does happen often and I have had users try to get me to do this for them.
Now if DF is guilty of surveying all gaming MBs looking for negative posts about their game and banning said users from their boards, it is unethical. I have major issues with such actions. Personally I would like more information before I believe the validity of these claims, just on the basis that the hardcore gaming community is truly not that big and word travels fast. No intelligent company would want to damage their reputation with such actions.
This game has a lot of hidden bs going on. They ban anyone posting anything negative about it that doesn't even post on their forums. They ban beta testers that post constructive critisism from the beta and their forums. I can smell another dark and light coming easily. This game has reached cult status. I don't understand why people are going goo goo gaga over this game when it's apparently very deceptive.
While that is true, isn't it a tad excessive to ban a user for criticizing a DF forum mod on a different site?
I mean, I could understand banning a player who violated the NDA on a different site, but complaining about a mod? That's a bit harsh, I think. I don't know if any of that stuff is true, but if it is, those mods are awfully thin skinned.
No, I wouldn't say tad excessive. I would say extremely excessive. But I think people, especially on the internet, feel they can say anything without any side effects.
Brannoc is a fuckin' moron, one of those people who take the job because it's the first and only chance at any kind of power they'll ever have in their lives. He's a Tasos laplicker, as are Brainfreeze and the majority of the mods at Forumfall. And now they think they have power over what you say in places besides their little kindergarten playground. Funny shit.
Zorvan, as usual, I completely agree with you.
Truly unbelievable behavior by these idiot moderators as well as the fanbois. They have no honor or integrity whatsoever.
lol @ people still dropping one liners that suggest this game will never release....you all live sad jealous lives. ignorance is bliss i guess...if it is never coming out someone better tell the hardworking staff to stop working around the clock and releasing patches everyday that all their work means nothing because the game is never going to get released. some of you people are just pathetic, its really sad. in before "youre a fanboy thats sad" or something to that extent
The game still is NOT released. Just wanted to point that out to you. And.... regardless of how many patches there are, or how many rabid, ridiculous fanbois they have, it may NEVER actual release.
Personally, I believe it will one day release, but that's not the point I am making. There's NO guarantee that it will. Plenty of titles in the past have never seen the light of day.
Originally posted by Locklain Originally posted by joshwa Rumors are circulating that people are being banned that don't even post on the Oforums and use a different nick on fansite forums than in DF. Theres only two ways to do this and thats though IPs or displayed email addys. The guy had his email addy hidden so whats going on? Ive no idea what may be happening and while I am shocked that some forum Mods may well be co-operating with AV on this kind of thing I am in no way surprised. This bunch has displayed no ethics of any kind and I expect this to continue after release. They will do anything to hush up people telling the truth about this pos company. Bah AV makes Enron look like Mother Teressa.
I smell a rootkit . . .
I can hear it now, "Adventurine, a name in the MMO business, has been found guilty of harvesting personal information from its customers for personal gains. This information included credit card information, personal banking information, family relations, and most commonly visited pornographic sites. An interview with Tasos Flambouras has concluded that he had no idea customer's information was being taken and directed the blame toward Ricki Sickenger. Tasos plans to take a vacation to the moon in is newly acquired Space Transportation System which he is claiming NASA has gifted to him." Yep, I am bored and at work . . .
That would be just great, finding those buggers are just about impossible. Attach a process to the DF.exe to harvest info on posts made to forums.
Now before you say thats just crazy go back and look as a few of the interviews Tasos has granted and tell me there isn't some serious issues going on in that outfit. Hell Tasos may be the sanest guy there, scary isn't it.
We are just at a loss to explain how this is happening though I'm leaning more toward the simple answer, corrupt Mods, to explain it.
No matter what happens with the game there is no way you can trust AV to act responsible.
Knowledge is key. Don't allow bias to dictate your decision making. Take a moment, a good look, at the link to the thread on this topic. Read the information, follow the links, examine the evidence at hand. Then realize for yourself why this topic should have died with just the original post.
Brannoc is a fuckin' moron, one of those people who take the job because it's the first and only chance at any kind of power they'll ever have in their lives. He's a Tasos laplicker, as are Brainfreeze and the majority of the mods at Forumfall. And now they think they have power over what you say in places besides their little kindergarten playground. Funny shit.
QTF
I have been on the Darkfall forum since 2005 and save 1 (who I haven’t seen in ages and might not even be a mod anymore) there isn’t a non-douchebag among the moderators.
They moderate that forum with an Iron Fist that Joe Stalin would be proud of.
Maybe this is due to their egos or maybe its Aventurine policy (which would make sense considering its 11 days till "release" and they haven’t lifted the NDA or even made any announcements, which further reinforces the suspicion, one confirmed by anyone who has played beta by the way, that the reason they keep Darkfall on such lock down is because they know they have a featureless unfinished product) however, its probably a combination of both moderator douchebagery and Aventurine policy.
I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass... and Im all out of bubble gum
I talked to one guy that had not only his beta forum access killed but his beta login account crushed, no notice, warning or anything.
He claims to have never even come near to trolling but did question the the technical competence of the dev team for making some obviously flawed change in a patch right before it happened.
So what even after release if they see a customer post something they don't like he gets banned from the game? Why isn't someone in the press just raking these guys over the coals for this nonsense?
Originally posted by heartless Wow! I mean seriously, they banned a guy from their forum who posted something on a site in no way, shape or form affiliated with Darkfall? That's crazy.
Hahahaha...
Duchy of Wessex not affiliated w/ Darkfall? LOL.
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Rumors are circulating that people are being banned that don't even post on the Oforums and use a different nick on fansite forums than in DF. Theres only two ways to do this and thats though IPs or displayed email addys. The guy had his email addy hidden so whats going on?
Ive no idea what may be happening and while I am shocked that some forum Mods may well be co-operating with AV on this kind of thing I am in no way surprised. This bunch has displayed no ethics of any kind and I expect this to continue after release. They will do anything to hush up people telling the truth about this pos company. Bah AV makes Enron look like Mother Teressa.
I hoped for it. Nice to see it happen.
MOAR of these bans please !
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
Hoped for what? Please do expand on that as you left things open to a lot of assumptions.
Yes, you are not clear and assumptions on what you mean can be made...
So... I will make one.
Are you saying that you think this ban was good?
Really?
Because if so you have not considered it properly.
How would YOU like to be banned from the Darkfall forums by a griefer?
How?
Easy:
Step one: Go to the Ten Ton Hammer Forum and create an account under the name "DarthRaiden" (None exists at the time of writing - I just checked member list there)
Step two: Post something like "LOLZ... Darkfall suxxor and the Mods Suxxor too! I iz DarthRaiden and I likes to troll the trolls at MMORPG.com but I knowz the Game Suxxor..."
Step three: Send an anonymous email from a hotmail or yahoo account to the Darkfall mods linking 'your' post there (the fake one) and a real post here. If possible match that to you DF account too.
Do you still think this is a good idea?
Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.
I smell a rootkit . . .
I can hear it now, "Adventurine, a name in the MMO business, has been found guilty of harvesting personal information from its customers for personal gains. This information included credit card information, personal banking information, family relations, and most commonly visited pornographic sites. An interview with Tasos Flambouras has concluded that he had no idea customer's information was being taken and directed the blame toward Ricki Sickenger. Tasos plans to take a vacation to the moon in is newly acquired Space Transportation System which he is claiming NASA has gifted to him."
Yep, I am bored and at work . . .
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You wouldn't understand
Yes, you are not clear and assumptions on what you mean can be made...
So... I will make one.
Are you saying that you think this ban was good?
Really?
Because if so you have not considered it properly.
How would YOU like to be banned from the Darkfall forums by a griefer?
How?
Easy:
Step one: Go to the Ten Ton Hammer Forum and create an account under the name "DarthRaiden" (None exists at the time of writing - I just checked member list there)
Step two: Post something like "LOLZ... Darkfall suxxor and the Mods Suxxor too! I iz DarthRaiden and I likes to troll the trolls at MMORPG.com but I knowz the Game Suxxor..."
Step three: Send an anonymous email from a hotmail or yahoo account to the Darkfall mods linking 'your' post there (the fake one) and a real post here. If possible match that to you DF account too.
Do you still think this is a good idea?
Wow Gyrus I believe in the matter of a few minutes you have created a game that AV would take years to make......Ban the fanboy!!!
I can see how fun this will be and easy given the intellegence shown by most fanboys and the devs / mods at AV. I would bet most fanboys are using the same handles everywhere and also don't know how to reset their DHCP connection to change their IP addy now and then.
Lets see which one shall I start with??? hhhmmmmm.......
wow everyday more and more rumors pop up about darkfall and av. Imo i think its alright if they ban the poeple that dont follow the NDA but if their banning critics than thats just lame.
thats sick, a guy like that should not be moderating a forum imo.
My tought exactly.
I dont do rhetorical well.
Im still here because i find humor in the drivel of others.
But HEY, i know when im not wanted!!!! lol
NOoo! Don't Go! I'm sure many people here besides myself find it very amusing the amount of time and effort you put into posting about how you don't care about this thread and QQ'ing about how it shouldn't exist. Carry on soldier!
Because silence is golden and you can't tolerate open discussion thats not pro DF? BTW its MORE not "MOAR" not trying to be the spelling police honest (I have read your posts for well over a year now without correcting you) but its always good to learn new things.
Sad Darth I thought you had kinda gotten over being the rabid fanbois that believed everything Tasos said and defended Aventurine to the death in all things.
I dont know if DF is guilty of what is being accused of them, but it is not the first time I have heard such things happening on MBs. Most of it starts from issues between two users. They find a bashing post on another forum from the person they dislike, send link to a mod they believe is anal retentive enough to carry out their wishes. I know from personal experience (I have been moderating MBs since 1999) that this does happen often and I have had users try to get me to do this for them.
Now if DF is guilty of surveying all gaming MBs looking for negative posts about their game and banning said users from their boards, it is unethical. I have major issues with such actions. Personally I would like more information before I believe the validity of these claims, just on the basis that the hardcore gaming community is truly not that big and word travels fast. No intelligent company would want to damage their reputation with such actions.
This game has a lot of hidden bs going on. They ban anyone posting anything negative about it that doesn't even post on their forums. They ban beta testers that post constructive critisism from the beta and their forums. I can smell another dark and light coming easily. This game has reached cult status. I don't understand why people are going goo goo gaga over this game when it's apparently very deceptive.
Dark and light 2.0 here you guys go.
While that is true, isn't it a tad excessive to ban a user for criticizing a DF forum mod on a different site?
I mean, I could understand banning a player who violated the NDA on a different site, but complaining about a mod? That's a bit harsh, I think. I don't know if any of that stuff is true, but if it is, those mods are awfully thin skinned.
No, I wouldn't say tad excessive. I would say extremely excessive. But I think people, especially on the internet, feel they can say anything without any side effects.
Actually, you're doing exactly that right now
NO I am not. This is about the stupidest thing I have read on the forum.
Zorvan, as usual, I completely agree with you.
Truly unbelievable behavior by these idiot moderators as well as the fanbois. They have no honor or integrity whatsoever.
The game still is NOT released. Just wanted to point that out to you. And.... regardless of how many patches there are, or how many rabid, ridiculous fanbois they have, it may NEVER actual release.
Personally, I believe it will one day release, but that's not the point I am making. There's NO guarantee that it will. Plenty of titles in the past have never seen the light of day.
I smell a rootkit . . .
I can hear it now, "Adventurine, a name in the MMO business, has been found guilty of harvesting personal information from its customers for personal gains. This information included credit card information, personal banking information, family relations, and most commonly visited pornographic sites. An interview with Tasos Flambouras has concluded that he had no idea customer's information was being taken and directed the blame toward Ricki Sickenger. Tasos plans to take a vacation to the moon in is newly acquired Space Transportation System which he is claiming NASA has gifted to him."
Yep, I am bored and at work . . .
That would be just great, finding those buggers are just about impossible.
Attach a process to the DF.exe to harvest info on posts made to forums.
Now before you say thats just crazy go back and look as a few of the interviews Tasos has granted and tell me there isn't some serious issues going on in that outfit. Hell Tasos may be the sanest guy there, scary isn't it.
We are just at a loss to explain how this is happening though I'm leaning more toward the simple answer, corrupt Mods, to explain it.
No matter what happens with the game there is no way you can trust AV to act responsible.
Knowledge is key. Don't allow bias to dictate your decision making. Take a moment, a good look, at the link to the thread on this topic. Read the information, follow the links, examine the evidence at hand. Then realize for yourself why this topic should have died with just the original post.
splat
Actually, you're doing exactly that right now
NO I am not. This is about the stupidest thing I have read on the forum.
And yet... here you are ... doing it again
Oh yeah this is quality popcorn thread... this is what I want more of on here !
But seriously if true... wooooah. Little scary banning people from having thoughts and expressing them in an areana outside your control.... spooky
QTF
I have been on the Darkfall forum since 2005 and save 1 (who I haven’t seen in ages and might not even be a mod anymore) there isn’t a non-douchebag among the moderators.
They moderate that forum with an Iron Fist that Joe Stalin would be proud of.
Maybe this is due to their egos or maybe its Aventurine policy (which would make sense considering its 11 days till "release" and they haven’t lifted the NDA or even made any announcements, which further reinforces the suspicion, one confirmed by anyone who has played beta by the way, that the reason they keep Darkfall on such lock down is because they know they have a featureless unfinished product) however, its probably a combination of both moderator douchebagery and Aventurine policy.
I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass... and Im all out of bubble gum
I talked to one guy that had not only his beta forum access killed but his beta login account crushed, no notice, warning or anything.
He claims to have never even come near to trolling but did question the the technical competence of the dev team for making some obviously flawed change in a patch right before it happened.
So what even after release if they see a customer post something they don't like he gets banned from the game? Why isn't someone in the press just raking these guys over the coals for this nonsense?
I don't really care wether you like DF or not.
Gameplay, graphics, community etc... I like talking about games too.
But there's a very fucking clear line between gaming and fascism.
No really, that's just 'unthinkably' sick.
Hahahaha...
Duchy of Wessex not affiliated w/ Darkfall? LOL.
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Games looking forward to: Fallen Earth, Mortal Online
The noob formally not known as not being the formally not unkown known APEist; The Stone Cold Killer of Tarq.