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All Aventurine had to do was Open Beta

Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033

Instead of this:

MMORPG.com:

There had been some speculation that there are plans to push the launch date further back than the originally announced 25th date. Can you tell us if there is any truth to this?

Tasos:

Consistent with the usual speculation sources, there’s no truth to this.

www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/4/view/news/read/12976/Darkfall-Interview.html

 

They could have saved themselves the embarrassment of failing and the fairly accurate perception of being the next-best inept and misleading development team by having a controlled, yet open beta in progressive steps rather than trying to rush something that is obviously not even ready for a partial launch out the door.

 

 

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  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181

    This "launch" is just like limited preorder beta for other MMOs.

  • goofy3kgoofy3k Member UncommonPosts: 250

    I'd agree there, open beta would of been a much better move. Would of ironed out all the current problems.

    But although the launch is going very badly, it doesnt mean the game will fail.

  • ZoulzZoulz Member Posts: 477

    Yes, I don't understand why they didn't have a open beta??? If the game is so good, they could have gotten more fans (customers) and tested the game more properly.

  • illorionillorion Member Posts: 467

    this development team kinda reminds me of playing cid myers pirates. They COULD have hired more ppl with that big fat loan they got.... but they didn't. You can hire more crew and it makes sailing much easier, but then you would have to split the plunder with them. Same applies here. They could have hired more staff, but tasos didnt want to split all that money up with more ppl. So now they have like 20 guys workin on a game that over a quarter million ppl are waiting to play. So screw this game and this company, even if they get it up and running the customer service is gonna be so limited and horrible that itl make blizzard look like the hilton. Ill play when this company finally shows it true color and ditches the game and a bigger company buys it up and acctually does something with it.

    "Don't mistake a fun game for a good game... Checkers is fun to play but its not exactly the highest point of gaming design... and definatly not worth $60 plus $15 a month"

  • RoYkORoYkO Member Posts: 67

    This is all pretty obvious and the facts that all these bugs were already in beta shows that they had to launch it to get the money to pay the bills.

  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by RoYkO


    This is all pretty obvious and the facts that all these bugs were already in beta shows that they had to launch it to get the money to pay the bills.

     

    Issues were not like this in beta. They added the new patches after shutting beta down and then this happened.

  • XImpalerXXImpalerX Member UncommonPosts: 606

        You mean have an Open Beta and let people other than the most rabid fanbois play? Na.

            Once people get past "gank" and realize that there is absolutely no content midlow-end game, they will see the game for what it truly is. A vast, empty world, where all you have to look forward to, is the skill "gank."

  • skizowizardskizowizard Member Posts: 5

    open beta would  be a good move we get to play free

  • doobsterdoobster Member Posts: 736

    They are having problems with only a limited amount of people with the game right now.

    Imagine if they opened the floodgates to the 300,000+ people that applied for beta.

  • tilletille Member Posts: 6
    Originally posted by Drazmic


    This "launch" is just like limited preorder beta for other MMOs.

     

    Well, if they tack on another free month (rather than, what, an extra two fucking days, gee thanks assholes), they can still use that excuse. I have no problem paying the full price as a "preorder", as long as they don't start counting until the servers are stable. Oh, and do a wipe too. kthxbai

  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181

    I agree with the wipe even though I spent the entire day leveling magic while talking in race chat...

  • AzraelSTXAzraelSTX Member Posts: 30
    Originally posted by Drazmic

    Originally posted by RoYkO


    This is all pretty obvious and the facts that all these bugs were already in beta shows that they had to launch it to get the money to pay the bills.

     

    Issues were not like this in beta. They added the new patches after shutting beta down and then this happened.

    This.

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201

    This isn't a launch. You have to have an invite to play. It's a paid beta.

  • amish_farmeramish_farmer Member Posts: 53

    You can't really argue that having an open beta would have been a bad idea.  I think though, that they're probably under a lot of pressure to get the game out before Mortal Online gets more of a foothold, as well as pressure from the community.


  • Originally posted by Zoulz

    Yes, I don't understand why they didn't have a open beta??? If the game is so good, they could have gotten more fans (customers) and tested the game more properly.


     
    I think you answered your own question.
  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by ianubisi


    This isn't a launch. You have to have an invite to play. It's a paid beta.
     

     

    It's not really an invite but instead a chance of getting to order. This

  • RoYkORoYkO Member Posts: 67
    Originally posted by Drazmic

    Originally posted by RoYkO


    This is all pretty obvious and the facts that all these bugs were already in beta shows that they had to launch it to get the money to pay the bills.

     

    Issues were not like this in beta. They added the new patches after shutting beta down and then this happened.

     

    Wishfull thinking, Beta had the 14001 error and was never fixed, synch issues were in beta, that human error was in beta.

  • demalusdemalus Member Posts: 401

     How exactly has this game failed?  

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  • amish_farmeramish_farmer Member Posts: 53
    Originally posted by RoYkO

    Originally posted by Drazmic

    Originally posted by RoYkO


    This is all pretty obvious and the facts that all these bugs were already in beta shows that they had to launch it to get the money to pay the bills.

     

    Issues were not like this in beta. They added the new patches after shutting beta down and then this happened.

     

    Wishfull thinking, Beta had the 14001 error and was never fixed, synch issues were in beta, that human error was in beta.

    The sync issue was in beta, and it was fixed in beta, though it would seem they didn't account for something ;)

  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by RoYkO

    Originally posted by Drazmic

    Originally posted by RoYkO


    This is all pretty obvious and the facts that all these bugs were already in beta shows that they had to launch it to get the money to pay the bills.

     

    Issues were not like this in beta. They added the new patches after shutting beta down and then this happened.

     

    Wishfull thinking, Beta had the 14001 error and was never fixed, synch issues were in beta, that human error was in beta.

    Those errors were in the last two days of beta? I didn't have any problems.

  • TheHowellerTheHoweller Member Posts: 407

    Don't worry loyal fans, just remember that Darkfall is currently feature-complete and more ready for release than most MMOs currently on the market!  Also, I am God.

    -Tasos

     

    Sorry, just randomly venting.

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    Ah yes when the unreasonable are faced with reason they must resort to personal attacks...When you are ready to move up from the kids table you can talk with the grown ups.

  • StellarprimeStellarprime Member Posts: 11

    i think the way they are doing things altogether is just retarted, and it shows how suck the company is as a whole. In a game like this it is very important  to get the edge and the only edge i'm going to get is the swords when i get in 2 weeks behind in everything. LOL!

  • COORSCOORS Member UncommonPosts: 353

    Well, I hate to bring this up yet again but....

    Some of the most rabid fans told us for MONTHS, in hundreds of posts that...

    1. This game had been in "closed" beta for 1 1/2 years using "professional" testers and it would be virtually "bug-free" when released.

    2. This game didn't need an open beta because it was MORE ready than any other MMO ever to release.

    3. This game didn't need a stress test because they had used AI Bots to simulate users and connections.

    4. Tasos himself stated that the server could handle 50,000 users and that there was NO lag what-so-ever.

    5. This game now had an excellent company as a publisher/distributor (Audio Visual) that would distribute this game througout Europe. In reality, Audio Visual has done NOTHING.. VIRTUALLY NOTHING! Please explain that?

    Think I'm kidding here? You don't remember reading these fanboy posts constantly? Then, go do some research and check out posts by Aragon100, Downtoearth, Imbant and many more...

    So... What happened?

    It's relatively easy to "talk the talk", but much more difficult to "walk the walk".

  • BostonCraabBostonCraab Member Posts: 3
    Originally posted by demalus


     How exactly has this game failed?  

    There are vast amounts of people who cant even buy the game. Not to mention all the other problems it has had so far. This so called realse has been a epic failure! I hope this is one of those times where in the future you look back and just laugh about it, cause the game turned out to be worth the wait and is awsome!

  • DrazmicDrazmic Member Posts: 181
    Originally posted by BostonCraab

    Originally posted by demalus


     How exactly has this game failed?  

    There are vast amounts of people who cant even buy the game. Not to mention all the other problems it has had so far. This so called realse has been a epic failure! I hope this is one of those times where in the future you look back and just laugh about it, cause the game turned out to be worth the wait and is awsome!

     

    They need to go back to the last beta patch we had and go from there.

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