at the moment demand is so high for the game that losing customers doesnt affect them neither do they care a hoot of what u guys think.
Most MMO launch atleast 10 to 20 servers at launch they have launched only 1 so obiviously supply is not enough for even 50 K users
All said the game is damn good ,graphics are not that bad as it seems in pics or vids , the game is huge crafting is good and expensive and best of all is player hunting .
I just love to turn people grey and hunt them down.
You strike and incte them with 1 strike you turn grey for 8 seconds
If they dont know they will strike you more than once .2 strikes by them = they will turn grey for 2 minutes .
3 pages of troll haters pretending to be potential customers, how pathetic and shows how desperate the trolls really are after everything they predicted was proven to be totally wrong. Thousands are in game now, thousands more will be, your whining is irrelevant because we don't need you, Darkfall is allready a massive success without you and its only getting strounger each day. If your not dedicated , patient and hardcore enough to manage to get your order then you are simply not worthy enough to play Darkfall because you are too weak and would not last 5 mins in game anyway. I don't blame Aventurine because they are a small Indy company trying their best for us under totally exceptional and completely unpredictable circumstances, personally I blame all the troll haters overloading the order website pretending to buy the game but really trying to prevent the true fans from getting the game. Stop whining and go back to your carebare games where you can pay your money and make an account in 5 mins and then just start playing straight away with no problems, instead of waiting hours, days and weeks entering your details and refreshing a website just for the chance that you might be able to pay them your money for the possibility of playing what surely must be the best game ever if the servers are up and they have finally managed to successfully charge your credit card and also found the time to authorize your account. To the troll haters saying this is the worst release ever, I say you know nothing, all MMO's have problems at launch, you are just ignorant, I think this is the best launch ever because only the truly worthy fans are getting to play the game and all the troll hater whiners have been excluded because of Aventurines revolutionary ground breaking advanced exclusive secret pre order for early access stress test launch and limited staged availability pay for beta commercial release.
Perfect fanboi reconstruction.
Had all the required elements - 'troll haters' 'carebear' 'go back to WoW' 'AV are a small company' 'you are not worthy'
Extra points for artistic impressions given for the 'trolls jamming the website conspiracy' and the suckerpunch ending.
Originally posted by Maughann Perfect fanboi reconstruction. Had all the required elements - 'troll haters' 'carebear' 'go back to WoW' 'AV are a small company' 'you are not worthy' Extra points for artistic impressions given for the 'trolls jamming the website conspiracy' and the suckerpunch ending. 10/10 - would read again /applaud
I know I've been putting my points down in buillet form in the vain hope that one fo the fanbots might break out of there AV programming and answer a single frakking point. Instead we get :
Your not hardcore go back to WoW
Your not in the game
Go back to your carebear games
There a small indie company we should not expect a high standard
Meh I give up.. ooh except for this wonderful snippet
"I don't blame Aventurine because they are a small Indy company trying their best for us under totally exceptional and completely unpredictable circumstances,"
So like *unpredictable* you mean the sheer volume of people trying to get in was a complete surprise. Because trolling the internet with your long feature list for TWO years at least, prorgramming some fanbots to spam everywhere and NOT looking at your forum sign up and useage count... very unpredicatble. AV fail. Well actually lets face it.. Lord Tasos fails. What is his background in ? Horse Studies ?
The only thing unpredicatable is what decisons Lord Tasos will reverse next. No preorder.... preorders.... no safe areas... pew pew guards towers. Of this is the contradications which make the popcorn flow freely.
Also welcome to the world of the blatent paid for beta test and stress testing trial. Oh your fanbots have set a wonderful precendence for other companies to follow. Frak this genre is going to high hell. Oh well we can hope AV are more a bad egg than other MMO companies. Maybe someone somewhere has some ethics and ability to stick to deadlines and decisions.
This thread is becoming EPIC in terms of stupidity. Yes it is. Especially when you have to argue there is a difference between customer and potential customer. Going back and forth over a "technicality" does not take away from the subject at hand. The OP made a mistake in the Thread topic and the poll, it should say "Has darkfall lost any of you as a customer or potential customer" But that is still just a technicality. In this case, it's important to point out that technicality. The reason is people could easily assume that this poll reflects the opinions of people who have actually bought and 'played' the game. Like I said, it could stand to be changed, but most people took it for what it was and grouped customer with potential customer, not matter how you cut it, if you lose a paying customer or a potential customer it is bad either way.
They do stand for different things, but from a business standpoint of AV, I am sure all 5 of them or however many they have would agree that a customer and a potential customer are both important. From a business standpoint, the "potential customer" is more important that the customer who has already purchased your product. Honestly, most of the potential money that an MMO can make is through subscription so I think you're wrong on this one. I think they are both equally important. This I still have to disagree with you on this one. For this reason.
Sure if you were able to get 5000 people in game for 6 months, and each paid you the $50 retail price and $15 a month you made $700,000.00.
5000 x 50 = 250000
5000 x 15 x 6 = 450000
= 700,000.00
But
If you had 5000 players and lost 5000 more potential customers due to your poor business practices.
POTENTIAL MONEY
10000 x 50 = $500,000.00
10000 x 15 x 6 = $900,000.00
= $1,400,000.00
ACTUAL MONEY DUE TO LOSS OF POTENTIAL CUSTOMER
10000 x 50 = $500,000.00 10000 x 15 x 6 = $900,000.00 = $1,400,000.00 - $700,000.00 = $700,000.00
Don't know about you, but a loss of 700k potential profit would be enough to make me think the potential customer is more important.
For a customer it is easy, you already have their money, nothing further needed to do. You got um hook line and sinker, wether they stick around or not doesn't matter, you got what you wanted from them, in this case the initial $50 bucks. important. However you can't build on success without the potential customer. Everyone who plays DF at this time was at one point a potential customer. What seperates you from the other is that you got in. You paid. Good for you. AV doesn't care about you anymore. What AV SHOULD want, but by their track record over the last 2 weeks are incapable of getting, is the influx of potential customers to increase their dismal cash flow. So the "potential customer" is paramount. It is the key to it all. Many of the successful games in terms of money built their empire off of the potential customer tactic. They knew early on that to make obscene amounts of money, you have to treat the entire world as a potential customer, add incentives, give the people what they want and they will come. AV hasn't caught on to this business practice it seems.
Anyway, enough bickering, I only suggest the OP change the topic and poll to say customer and potential customer. Current players are customers, if you quit they lost a customer, and loss that monthly fee even though they got you for $50. Potential customers are what companies want, if you can't provide them a service or what they need you lose them. Problem is you didn't get their $50, and you lost the potential to get it. So in essence, the potential is more important than the customer. From the looks of it AV lost WAY MORE potential customers than they have paying customers, which doesn't look very good for the business model.
Technicality, or not, it can be very misleading if left as is. It implies that the poll reflects the opinion of people who have actually bought the game and now no longer play it, giving the impression to people (who haven't bought it yet but might want to) that it accurately reflects that.
Well I think he thought most people would understand the underlined meaning of his/her thread. When I read it, I took it as customer AND potential customers, because honestly they are just 2 forms of the same thing. They both = money in the end of things.
He/She could stand to make the change to the topic and poll, but I am pretty the OP ment both, did you buy it and quit and did you want to buy it and just said screw it.
Well someone actually did what i was thinking of doing in response to this topic/poll put a money value on the potentually lost revenue from lost customers.
My opinion here would be a lost customer=lost revenue,someone who never purchases the game the company got there $40+,not that they wouldn't be hurting loseing the $15 a month subs to, only way they lose here if say there 1 server has 100k subs on it and they lose 63% of those too.
From my understanding of OP is if you vote yest to this that means they have(at time of my reply)lost 63%+ revenue of players that would have bought the game but now are not,in my book that means that DF will fail.
Example=EQ.Just think EQ in the begining had like 150k plus subs at the start and if they had a messed up billing system like this and 63%+ of those subs were lost because players couldn't buy the game do you think that EQ would have lasted this long no way.This is a worst start than AO and look where that game is(How many servers left there).DF=1 server not even filled and this poll showing that 63%+ potentual buyers lost.
what would be the logical explaination for having NPC hirelings, and setting up caravans as a merchant, on the home page as features in the game..? For at least 8 months, and still there a week after launch? Since you seem to be hardcore logical people...
Originally posted by Maughann Originally posted by Polarization 3 pages of troll haters pretending to be potential customers, how pathetic and shows how desperate the trolls really are after everything they predicted was proven to be totally wrong. Thousands are in game now, thousands more will be, your whining is irrelevant because we don't need you, Darkfall is allready a massive success without you and its only getting strounger each day. If your not dedicated , patient and hardcore enough to manage to get your order then you are simply not worthy enough to play Darkfall because you are too weak and would not last 5 mins in game anyway. I don't blame Aventurine because they are a small Indy company trying their best for us under totally exceptional and completely unpredictable circumstances, personally I blame all the troll haters overloading the order website pretending to buy the game but really trying to prevent the true fans from getting the game. Stop whining and go back to your carebare games where you can pay your money and make an account in 5 mins and then just start playing straight away with no problems, instead of waiting hours, days and weeks entering your details and refreshing a website just for the chance that you might be able to pay them your money for the possibility of playing what surely must be the best game ever if the servers are up and they have finally managed to successfully charge your credit card and also found the time to authorize your account. To the troll haters saying this is the worst release ever, I say you know nothing, all MMO's have problems at launch, you are just ignorant, I think this is the best launch ever because only the truly worthy fans are getting to play the game and all the troll hater whiners have been excluded because of Aventurines revolutionary ground breaking advanced exclusive secret pre order for early access stress test launch and limited staged availability pay for beta commercial release.
Perfect fanboi reconstruction. Had all the required elements - 'troll haters' 'carebear' 'go back to WoW' 'AV are a small company' 'you are not worthy' Extra points for artistic impressions given for the 'trolls jamming the website conspiracy' and the suckerpunch ending. 10/10 - would read again /applaud
and the ironic part is that Polarization used to be a troll. what made me laugh the most is "and would not last 5 mins in game anyway." im sorry but with the combat being mainly fps style, id probably get too bored after one day of ganking all the so called "hardcore" players i would happen to come across. I'm sorry but thats a joke and then some. LOL!!
what would be the logical explaination for having NPC hirelings, and setting up caravans as a merchant, on the home page as features in the game..? For at least 8 months, and still there a week after launch? Since you seem to be hardcore logical people...
There are offcial statements in the news sections stating NPC hirelings as not in game anymore, stating and describing caravans as not a gamemechanic supported feature months before game entered Beta..
You have to read the information, man, and stop wear the blind haters glasses..read the damn official announcements..and stop spreading wrong information..these things were long known before the game even entered public Beta.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE-------------------------------------------------- $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I seriously don't believe anything any of these people say.
Your not going to get the people actually playing the game in that poll it will be the trolls that want the game to fail (and there's alot of them).
I've done a ton of research, ive watched hours of streams talke dto players actually playing the game, from grievers to crafters to just straight up RPers and DF is a good game.
Does this staged release suck ass? yes. Should we hate Darkfall because of it? I don't.
People that hate the game will use every bit of negative feedback from the playerbase as ammunition on these forums.
People say the animations are crappy so the trolls exploit this and thats all you hear about, people complain about the release and now all the trolls are on soap boxes with bullhorns saying its the worst game/release ever.
Guys the other day Darkfall had over 5 thousand players actively playing on the server at once.... thats alot of people enjoying the game. Please see through the info the forum warriors are spreading.
Reading these forums always puts a smile on my face - Dont you all have something better to do?
I myself got into Darkfall - and so did most of my guild, some during this weeks sales - its not exactly hard, and if your american, you cannot complain since its not a official release for you
While I totally agree that the Billing system was and Is a mess, its not exacty AV's fault.
You have to remember that AV built the game and server code....and NOTHING else. The billing system was made by ANOTHER company. Flame them, and not AV. Why? AV are victems here to. They paid a *unknown* amount for that billing system to be made for them, and the company that did so failed epicly. AV have said that a new billing system is on the way, but these things 1) Take time and 2) Cost AV more money - theres no way they could of predicted this billing system would fail, they would of given the company a design brief, requirements etc - if these weren't met theres very little AV can do short-term.
TBH the game itself is exactly what I and our guild have been looking for - its the best new MMO as far as im concerned, once you get in - and put simply, all you who have nothing better to do but pointlessly flame AV for something they cannot change the instant you want it is pathetic - and your no-doubt americans...and therefore were better off without you in-game anyway.
I am NOT a fan-boi - just someone who really enjoys the game. If your missing it because of the billing system issues, suit yourself - but if you ever do try it, you'll wounder why you waited.
I've heard too many stories of people buying and then not being able to activate their account, or couldn't install the client and receive zero help from support
basically im afraid to give these tools my credit card
if I could pay through paypal or something like that i would give it a go
I seriously don't believe anything any of these people say. Your not going to get the people actually playing the game in that poll it will be the trolls that want the game to fail (and there's alot of them). I've done a ton of research, ive watched hours of streams talke dto players actually playing the game, from grievers to crafters to just straight up RPers and DF is a good game. Does this staged release suck ass? yes. Should we hate Darkfall because of it? I don't. People that hate the game will use every bit of negative feedback from the playerbase as ammunition on these forums. People say the animations are crappy so the trolls exploit this and thats all you hear about, people complain about the release and now all the trolls are on soap boxes with bullhorns saying its the worst game/release ever. Guys the other day Darkfall had over 5 thousand players actively playing on the server at once.... thats alot of people enjoying the game. Please see through the info the forum warriors are spreading.
No one hates Darkfall. No one hates anything. You fanbots throw that word around like it applies to every critic - it doesn't. If we "hate" anyone, it's Aventurine. We can all agree that the game can either be acceptable or unacceptable (most people think it's fun, so it's acceptable). We can also all agree that Aventurine are a buncha morons and don't deserve any slack. We want to play the game, but isn't it ironic that the company who made it is the major thing that's stopping us? Oh but yeah, Aventurine are just victims because it's not their billing system. Tasos could never do anything wrong, of course! Seriously, they make these mistakes and expect the MMO community to take pity and lick their boo boos. Sadly, that's exactly what some people are doing.
Darkfall will still be around if you justly criticize Aventurine for their mistakes, don't worry. It's not like the company is going to cut themselves, cry, and shut down, just because some people don't like the way they're handling things. They're too hardcore for that.
Also, 5,000 actively playing on the server at once...down from the touted 10,000. When they have anything close to 10,000, I'll be impressed.
3 pages of troll haters pretending to be potential customers, how pathetic and shows how desperate the trolls really are after everything they predicted was proven to be totally wrong.
Thousands are in game now, thousands more will be, your whining is irrelevant because we don't need you, Darkfall is allready a massive success without you and its only getting strounger each day.
If your not dedicated , patient and hardcore enough to manage to get your order then you are simply not worthy enough to play Darkfall because you are too weak and would not last 5 mins in game anyway.
I don't blame Aventurine because they are a small Indy company trying their best for us under totally exceptional and completely unpredictable circumstances, personally I blame all the troll haters overloading the order website pretending to buy the game but really trying to prevent the true fans from getting the game.
Stop whining and go back to your carebare games where you can pay your money and make an account in 5 mins and then just start playing straight away with no problems, instead of waiting hours, days and weeks entering your details and refreshing a website just for the chance that you might be able to pay them your money for the possibility of playing what surely must be the best game ever if the servers are up and they have finally managed to successfully charge your credit card and also found the time to authorize your account.
To the troll haters saying this is the worst release ever, I say you know nothing, all MMO's have problems at launch, you are just ignorant, I think this is the best launch ever because only the truly worthy fans are getting to play the game and all the troll hater whiners have been excluded because of Aventurines revolutionary ground breaking advanced exclusive secret pre order for early access stress test launch and limited staged availability pay for beta commercial release.
Perfect fanboi reconstruction.
Had all the required elements - 'troll haters' 'carebear' 'go back to WoW' 'AV are a small company' 'you are not worthy'
Extra points for artistic impressions given for the 'trolls jamming the website conspiracy' and the suckerpunch ending.
10/10 - would read again
/applaud
and the ironic part is that Polarization used to be a troll. what made me laugh the most is "and would not last 5 mins in game anyway." im sorry but with the combat being mainly fps style, id probably get too bored after one day of ganking all the so called "hardcore" players i would happen to come across. I'm sorry but thats a joke and then some. LOL!!
This whole staged release was a complete joke. If they weren't ready for the masses interested in the game, they should have delayed it. I don't have time or the patience to sit in front of my computer pressing F5 every time they have an opening of available accounts. It's also not fair to other potential customers that so many had a huge headstart due to having no life (or friends/guild mates with no life) to grab an account. I work for a living and so do others interested in this game.
This whole staged release was a complete joke. If they weren't ready for the masses interested in the game, they should have delayed it. I don't have time or the patience to sit in front of my computer pressing F5 every time they have an opening of available accounts. It's also not fair to other potential customers that so many had a huge headstart due to having no life (or friends/guild mates with no life) to grab an account. I work for a living and so do others interested in this game.
Perhaps they had no choice.. Much like you have no choice to sit infront of your computer. Ironic how life turns out sometimes, isn't it?
In their defence I will say this;
So far my experience in game has been good. I have had fun, I have had highs, I have had lows. I have found some lucky loot from dead players. I have lost loot at the hands of murderers. I stole a mount from under someones nose, and traveled accross a beautifully scenic landscape to meet my new guildmates. I lost the mount upon arrival at the hands of a rival guild we are at war with. I have explored a fraction of the land, but have already seen some great locations that made me stop and look.
I have not played a full pvp/loot game since Neocron, and my heart hasn't pounded like it has since Neocron ( when playing games ). Is the game perfect? No, I have played many mmo's and they are ALL flawed. Would it have been better for everyone, including AV, if they had launched seamlessly with 100 servers? Indeed.
I may tire of the game before my subsciption is due, as I often do. But so far I have had fun, which is what it is all about. Should you like it? Should you buy it? That's up to you, but atleast I HAVE tried it rather than believe the usual diatribe that come with every new launch.
It's too early to ask this question. Wait til the free month is up. It will be very interesting to see the numbers. Especially after seeing the mass exodus in a few other MMO's after the initial month.
I just can't believe a company can do business this way in this day and age. It just seems rather strange if you have a good product.
I have no interest in playing Darkfall til they offer a free trial.
I can actually understand trying to limit the amount of subscribers until they got things going properly, lets face it MMO launches are crazy even when they're stable, but honestly, I've been perma-banned off the forums so I couldn't even go in and subscribe to see if they've made changes even if I wanted to, you have to give them a little bit of respect for at least being honest with their game instead of just royally f**king it up and running away like nothing happened like Funcom did.
Now if they could fix that stubborn arrogance of theirs and actually fix the damn game so it isn't teletubbies land where PvPers pretend they have skill and get patted on the head for being pricks then I might find a way to bypass the ban so I can subscribe.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
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at the moment demand is so high for the game that losing customers doesnt affect them neither do they care a hoot of what u guys think.
Most MMO launch atleast 10 to 20 servers at launch they have launched only 1 so obiviously supply is not enough for even 50 K users
All said the game is damn good ,graphics are not that bad as it seems in pics or vids , the game is huge crafting is good and expensive and best of all is player hunting .
I just love to turn people grey and hunt them down.
You strike and incte them with 1 strike you turn grey for 8 seconds
If they dont know they will strike you more than once .2 strikes by them = they will turn grey for 2 minutes .
After your 8 secs is up happy hunting .
was this thread started on the basis of "wwaaaahhhh, I can't buy a copy yet"
Cause the whole thing seems like it to me, just like when you were a child. If you couldn't have it now, you didn't want it EVER /sulk.
Perfect fanboi reconstruction.
Had all the required elements - 'troll haters' 'carebear' 'go back to WoW' 'AV are a small company' 'you are not worthy'
Extra points for artistic impressions given for the 'trolls jamming the website conspiracy' and the suckerpunch ending.
10/10 - would read again
/applaud
I know I've been putting my points down in buillet form in the vain hope that one fo the fanbots might break out of there AV programming and answer a single frakking point. Instead we get :
Meh I give up.. ooh except for this wonderful snippet
"I don't blame Aventurine because they are a small Indy company trying their best for us under totally exceptional and completely unpredictable circumstances,"
So like *unpredictable* you mean the sheer volume of people trying to get in was a complete surprise. Because trolling the internet with your long feature list for TWO years at least, prorgramming some fanbots to spam everywhere and NOT looking at your forum sign up and useage count... very unpredicatble. AV fail. Well actually lets face it.. Lord Tasos fails. What is his background in ? Horse Studies ?
The only thing unpredicatable is what decisons Lord Tasos will reverse next. No preorder.... preorders.... no safe areas... pew pew guards towers. Of this is the contradications which make the popcorn flow freely.
Also welcome to the world of the blatent paid for beta test and stress testing trial. Oh your fanbots have set a wonderful precendence for other companies to follow. Frak this genre is going to high hell. Oh well we can hope AV are more a bad egg than other MMO companies. Maybe someone somewhere has some ethics and ability to stick to deadlines and decisions.
Technicality, or not, it can be very misleading if left as is. It implies that the poll reflects the opinion of people who have actually bought the game and now no longer play it, giving the impression to people (who haven't bought it yet but might want to) that it accurately reflects that.
Well I think he thought most people would understand the underlined meaning of his/her thread. When I read it, I took it as customer AND potential customers, because honestly they are just 2 forms of the same thing. They both = money in the end of things.
He/She could stand to make the change to the topic and poll, but I am pretty the OP ment both, did you buy it and quit and did you want to buy it and just said screw it.
Well someone actually did what i was thinking of doing in response to this topic/poll put a money value on the potentually lost revenue from lost customers.
My opinion here would be a lost customer=lost revenue,someone who never purchases the game the company got there $40+,not that they wouldn't be hurting loseing the $15 a month subs to, only way they lose here if say there 1 server has 100k subs on it and they lose 63% of those too.
From my understanding of OP is if you vote yest to this that means they have(at time of my reply)lost 63%+ revenue of players that would have bought the game but now are not,in my book that means that DF will fail.
Example=EQ.Just think EQ in the begining had like 150k plus subs at the start and if they had a messed up billing system like this and 63%+ of those subs were lost because players couldn't buy the game do you think that EQ would have lasted this long no way.This is a worst start than AO and look where that game is(How many servers left there).DF=1 server not even filled and this poll showing that 63%+ potentual buyers lost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud Fits pretty well
Perfect fanboi reconstruction.
Had all the required elements - 'troll haters' 'carebear' 'go back to WoW' 'AV are a small company' 'you are not worthy'
Extra points for artistic impressions given for the 'trolls jamming the website conspiracy' and the suckerpunch ending.
10/10 - would read again
/applaud
and the ironic part is that Polarization used to be a troll. what made me laugh the most is "and would not last 5 mins in game anyway." im sorry but with the combat being mainly fps style, id probably get too bored after one day of ganking all the so called "hardcore" players i would happen to come across. I'm sorry but thats a joke and then some. LOL!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud Fits pretty well
There are offcial statements in the news sections stating NPC hirelings as not in game anymore, stating and describing caravans as not a gamemechanic supported feature months before game entered Beta..
You have to read the information, man, and stop wear the blind haters glasses..read the damn official announcements..and stop spreading wrong information..these things were long known before the game even entered public Beta.
-----MY-TERMS-OF-USE--------------------------------------------------
$OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
-We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!
"There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)
I seriously don't believe anything any of these people say.
Your not going to get the people actually playing the game in that poll it will be the trolls that want the game to fail (and there's alot of them).
I've done a ton of research, ive watched hours of streams talke dto players actually playing the game, from grievers to crafters to just straight up RPers and DF is a good game.
Does this staged release suck ass? yes. Should we hate Darkfall because of it? I don't.
People that hate the game will use every bit of negative feedback from the playerbase as ammunition on these forums.
People say the animations are crappy so the trolls exploit this and thats all you hear about, people complain about the release and now all the trolls are on soap boxes with bullhorns saying its the worst game/release ever.
Guys the other day Darkfall had over 5 thousand players actively playing on the server at once.... thats alot of people enjoying the game. Please see through the info the forum warriors are spreading.
Playing: Nothing
Looking forward to: Nothing
This thread is funny.
"I want to play the game now!" "WTF!!! I CANT GET INSTANT GRATIFICATION FOR MY WISH??"
"Wait I know, the game sucks, that must be it."
"Thats why ive been wanting to play it so bad"
....wait what ?
Dont worry about it, ull get ur turn at purchasing the game as soon as AV gets its ducks in a row and gets a few more servers out.
And if by then u dont even want to try the game as soem sort of protest, well there will be many many more ppl ready to take ur place.
-Darkstar
Reading these forums always puts a smile on my face - Dont you all have something better to do?
I myself got into Darkfall - and so did most of my guild, some during this weeks sales - its not exactly hard, and if your american, you cannot complain since its not a official release for you
While I totally agree that the Billing system was and Is a mess, its not exacty AV's fault.
You have to remember that AV built the game and server code....and NOTHING else. The billing system was made by ANOTHER company. Flame them, and not AV. Why? AV are victems here to. They paid a *unknown* amount for that billing system to be made for them, and the company that did so failed epicly. AV have said that a new billing system is on the way, but these things 1) Take time and 2) Cost AV more money - theres no way they could of predicted this billing system would fail, they would of given the company a design brief, requirements etc - if these weren't met theres very little AV can do short-term.
TBH the game itself is exactly what I and our guild have been looking for - its the best new MMO as far as im concerned, once you get in - and put simply, all you who have nothing better to do but pointlessly flame AV for something they cannot change the instant you want it is pathetic - and your no-doubt americans...and therefore were better off without you in-game anyway.
I am NOT a fan-boi - just someone who really enjoys the game. If your missing it because of the billing system issues, suit yourself - but if you ever do try it, you'll wounder why you waited.
/rant
Can someone pls tell me what the server target capacity is?
I read it was 10k but I've also seen 15k been thrown around, or is it much higher?
If it's much higher it would account for there being no new server opened up yet while AV's "4 digit" evening sales are still selling.
Can someone who knows please clear this up as I would like to know.
I've heard too many stories of people buying and then not being able to activate their account, or couldn't install the client and receive zero help from support
basically im afraid to give these tools my credit card
if I could pay through paypal or something like that i would give it a go
No one hates Darkfall. No one hates anything. You fanbots throw that word around like it applies to every critic - it doesn't. If we "hate" anyone, it's Aventurine. We can all agree that the game can either be acceptable or unacceptable (most people think it's fun, so it's acceptable). We can also all agree that Aventurine are a buncha morons and don't deserve any slack. We want to play the game, but isn't it ironic that the company who made it is the major thing that's stopping us? Oh but yeah, Aventurine are just victims because it's not their billing system. Tasos could never do anything wrong, of course! Seriously, they make these mistakes and expect the MMO community to take pity and lick their boo boos. Sadly, that's exactly what some people are doing.
Darkfall will still be around if you justly criticize Aventurine for their mistakes, don't worry. It's not like the company is going to cut themselves, cry, and shut down, just because some people don't like the way they're handling things. They're too hardcore for that.
Also, 5,000 actively playing on the server at once...down from the touted 10,000. When they have anything close to 10,000, I'll be impressed.
Perfect fanboi reconstruction.
Had all the required elements - 'troll haters' 'carebear' 'go back to WoW' 'AV are a small company' 'you are not worthy'
Extra points for artistic impressions given for the 'trolls jamming the website conspiracy' and the suckerpunch ending.
10/10 - would read again
/applaud
and the ironic part is that Polarization used to be a troll. what made me laugh the most is "and would not last 5 mins in game anyway." im sorry but with the combat being mainly fps style, id probably get too bored after one day of ganking all the so called "hardcore" players i would happen to come across. I'm sorry but thats a joke and then some. LOL!!
"The Order of the White Border"
Still think Polarization turned fanboy?
Indeed....people need to read whats written. At least some of us got your point Polarisation
The OP described what the poll was intending to do in his initial thread. The customer/potential customer argument is just "cutting hairs".
This whole staged release was a complete joke. If they weren't ready for the masses interested in the game, they should have delayed it. I don't have time or the patience to sit in front of my computer pressing F5 every time they have an opening of available accounts. It's also not fair to other potential customers that so many had a huge headstart due to having no life (or friends/guild mates with no life) to grab an account. I work for a living and so do others interested in this game.
Perhaps they had no choice.. Much like you have no choice to sit infront of your computer. Ironic how life turns out sometimes, isn't it?
In their defence I will say this;
So far my experience in game has been good. I have had fun, I have had highs, I have had lows. I have found some lucky loot from dead players. I have lost loot at the hands of murderers. I stole a mount from under someones nose, and traveled accross a beautifully scenic landscape to meet my new guildmates. I lost the mount upon arrival at the hands of a rival guild we are at war with. I have explored a fraction of the land, but have already seen some great locations that made me stop and look.
I have not played a full pvp/loot game since Neocron, and my heart hasn't pounded like it has since Neocron ( when playing games ). Is the game perfect? No, I have played many mmo's and they are ALL flawed. Would it have been better for everyone, including AV, if they had launched seamlessly with 100 servers? Indeed.
I may tire of the game before my subsciption is due, as I often do. But so far I have had fun, which is what it is all about. Should you like it? Should you buy it? That's up to you, but atleast I HAVE tried it rather than believe the usual diatribe that come with every new launch.
It's too early to ask this question. Wait til the free month is up. It will be very interesting to see the numbers. Especially after seeing the mass exodus in a few other MMO's after the initial month.
I just can't believe a company can do business this way in this day and age. It just seems rather strange if you have a good product.
I have no interest in playing Darkfall til they offer a free trial.
I can actually understand trying to limit the amount of subscribers until they got things going properly, lets face it MMO launches are crazy even when they're stable, but honestly, I've been perma-banned off the forums so I couldn't even go in and subscribe to see if they've made changes even if I wanted to, you have to give them a little bit of respect for at least being honest with their game instead of just royally f**king it up and running away like nothing happened like Funcom did.
Now if they could fix that stubborn arrogance of theirs and actually fix the damn game so it isn't teletubbies land where PvPers pretend they have skill and get patted on the head for being pricks then I might find a way to bypass the ban so I can subscribe.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.